Quote# 139808

Rape

When men have something women have less of, such as money or power, women simply take it by force. It's called affirmative action and feminists believe it's right. What women have that men don't is of course sex. Disclaimer: Rape is bad and shouldn't be done.

Female perspective of rape
Rape is bad and shouldn't be done. However, feminist females expand the definition of "rape" as being any sex they later regret. It is not so much that they will lie and say you raped them when they know you didn't. If you have sex and then they regret it for some reason, such as that you are of lower perceived status than they thought, then as far as they are concerned you "raped" them. The very same physical actions on the man's part could see him categorized either as a great lover or rapist depending on the later claimed emotional response of the female. Since it is not possible to objectively examine an emotional response, it follows that most rape cases are now prosecuted on spectral evidence, similar to the Salem witch trials.

Rape Fantasies
While females don't want to be raped, females (most of which aren't feminist) generally like manly men who take charge of them and do what they want to them, not feminine men begging them for sex and asking their permission nanosecond by nanosecond. Hence most erotic fiction aimed at females contains rape or quasi-rape scenes and females getting off on being raped is well known in criminology circles. While rape fantasies could be due to child abuse or sexual harassment, men also get abused and sexually harassed, but rape fantasies are gendered.

One plausible explanation of modern rape fantasies is that too many women combine their preference for sexual submission with ridiculous neuroses they have about men having to fix their economic problems. See 50 Shades of Grey becoming the best selling book ever after the financial crash. A story women masturbated to globally about a poor woman entering a sex slavery contract to pay for college.

Other more plausible explanations for rape fantasies in general would be a self-reinforcing gluttony on their natural preference for sexual submission through degeneracy like BDSM, and a total lack of assertiveness and an abundance of natural narcissism which causes their sexual fantasies to be receptive rather than active and extremely self-centered.

[...]

Rape and Incels
While incels do not support rape outside a vocal minority of reprehensible people (Submitter's note: Links to a certain special fiend of ours)... Involuntary celibacy is much more painful for men than rape is for women. Deprivation is much more agonizing than discomfort. This does not excuse rapists, but it is something women don't understand.

Incel Wiki, incels.me 6 Comments [8/14/2018 1:39:57 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139807

Betabux

A betabux, for 'beta bucks', or beta provider', is a man who missed out on sex during his prime years, so in desperation he uses his wealth to attract a post-prime golddigging slut who rode the cock carousel during her prime years.

The archaetypal beta provider

Timothy is the archaetypal beta provider. Timothy is a 35 year old engineer with a good career. Timothy is also ugly and a kissless virgin. Timothy marries Jenny, a fat 36 year old woman who has 3 kids. Jenny used to be attractive in her teenage years and early 20s, but is no longer due to poor diet, and excessive partying and drinking during her prime years. Jenny used to spend lots of time getting fucked by only good looking tall alpha jocks, but none of them were willing to settle down with her. She ended up with 3 kids as a result of one night stands with random alphas. Jenny realized she needs a source of income to provide for her and her kids, so she married Timothy the beta provider. Although she does not tell Timothy this, Jenny has no intentions of having any children by Timothy - she only wants to use him to leech off his money.

Incel Wiki, Incel Wiki 4 Comments [8/14/2018 1:35:57 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 128088

Muslims teach and genuinely believe that if you die for Islam you will get seventy two 13 year old girls for eternity (not to mention the daughters and wives of conquered enemies in this life). Christianity teaches that if you so much as fap once, you’ll spend eternity with a pitchfork up your arse. In the meantime, stay chained to your hag wife or else. You have to spend eternity with her in ‘heaven’ too.

If I was a testosterone fuelled angry young man I know which one I’d choose.

theantifeminist, Resisting the Rape of the Male – Sex Positive Men's Rights 8 Comments [6/13/2017 1:19:49 PM]
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Quote# 139782

The biology of female sexuality

I was thinking and reading about this a lot, also going undercover to female forums and I have built a theory which still has some plot holes but I want to know your opinion.

So, biologically males need to impregnate the most females, and females need the best mate (i.e. Chad). And most of the people still live by biological instincts. Incels who want a wife are superior in this case (or just desperate).

I know for a fact that very few females can get an orgasm from sex. I was lurking into female forums and they were seriously asking each other how to masturbate and what orgasm feels like. I went undercover as a female in some beauty forum and one foid told she could cum for the first time from masturbating at like 23 after having 7-8 partners, but still couldn't cum from sex. I mean the whole discovery was incredible to me, just as when I found out in high school that females too get horny. As far as I understood very few get orgasm from thrusts only, most orgasms come from clitoris which is usually unengaged during sex.

So my theory is that modern females don't want to have kids and families due to peer pressure and propaganda like "job, career, travel" but their bodies tell them they need to be pregnant so they find sex with Chad but can't get orgasms so they need more and more incoming. Their conscious brain thinks everything is fine but their subconscious brain is so fucking surprised they are not pregnant yet so it tells them they need to fuck more because their biology didn't account for condoms or birth control pills.

The conclusion is pretty popular in this forum: it will benefit everyone if females marry young and get pregnant. It will distract them for 5-7 years, and then they must get pregnant again.

Still don't know whether foids have sex because their body makes them pregnant or because they want to cum or maybe it's connected somehow.

znbox, incels.me 6 Comments [8/13/2018 10:07:17 AM]
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Quote# 139662

Am I a rapist?

Earlier this year I went back to a city I used to live and work in in my early twenties. I hung out with my old friends and went to some of the bars we used to go to. Whilst I was in one of these bars I bumped into a girl that I had history with and suddenly, the moment I saw her, I remembered that by #MeToo standards I had probably raped her. She didn't seem mad or bring it up or anything, we actually talked all night and had a cool time. She had been hot before but she's even hotter now. She's put on weight in a good way, I've put on weight in a bad way, so unfortunately nothing happened.

Anyway this is what happened with her in the old days when I lived in that city.

Her and I worked for the same company but in different branches. The young people from all the (4) branches in the city used to generally get together and have a good time (get hammered) a lot. There was a lot of shenanigans. Anyway, she developed a reputation for getting blackout drunk and shagging random guys, including one of my best friends. It was a very, VERY well deserved reputation. She also told everyone that she was in love with me and would frequently fling herself at me. If we were in a club she would basically molest me, if I got with another girl she would cry, even though we had no past at that time and actually she didn't know me well at all. At the time I was in much better shape than I am now and I was not averse to the odd bit of rumpy-pumpy so people who knew me and her casually had no idea why I wouldn't shag this girl, as she was hot. Everyone that knew her well knew exactly why I wouldn't. She was the village bike.

Anyway one night we were all out, she was trying to get with me as usual, and the girl I had hoped was going to join us cancelled. So I thought, 'fuck it' and took the drunk girl who was apparently in love with me home. We got back to my apartment and we started shagging. She was incredibly drunk and went to sleep half way through. I continued anyway.

I don't feel guilty as I know she was super keen on me, tried to shag me constantly and slept like a starfish, taking up all of the bed.

When I saw her earlier this year she looked even hotter than before (and I have to admit she was hot before, she just repulsed me because of her behaviour) and had calmed down a lot, everyone says she is like a different person. Cruelly, I'm fat and balding now and shes no longer interested.

So.

Am I a rapist?

mate, Kiwi Farms 10 Comments [8/9/2018 1:49:42 PM]
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Quote# 139793

Actually, no, I won't date or waste my energy on "Trans Men" or "Non Binaries".

That seems to be a way for people to make themselves more palatable to gender believers, to be a 'Good TERF' - "it's just Trans Women I have an issue with, I'd totally date a Trans Men or Non Binary Person, I fight for them too". Well, not me.

Are they biologically female? Yes. Have they also chosen to massively and offensively degrade biological femaleness and throw all other women under the bus because they are Not Like Other Girls 2.0? Yes.

I'm a lesbian, I'm also a working class second generation Desi immigrant. I have no time for these people that are overwhelmingly White and seemingly entirely middle class or rich. Nor do I see it as safe to encourage or shame women into dating them under the "well technically" guise and I can only imagine so many people here do because they never have and have no real intention of actually doing so - or else you might actually realise how emotionally and homophobically abusive that situation is to lesbians, to be expected to include in their dating pool people who actively disparage and disown the very idea of femaleness.

These people are just as dangerous as the Trans Women this sub discusses. Maybe not to you with the luxury of Whiteness or middle class opportunities, but to those of us that are poor or non White? Women who are struggling to survive off of food banks, single mothers trying to raise children while their benefits get taken away, girls who cannot go to school because they do not have menstrual products, WOC navigating a racist Western society and their own ethnic communities, we literally do not have the time or resources. It is specifically our rights and our voices and our safety as poor women and WOC that are ignored and are the first to be sacrificed. And not just by Trans Women, by Trans Men and Non Binaries too, because they all want to take our places in organisations and divert attention and funding away from us in favour of themselves, and none of them will ever understand what it is to be us. Especially as we are under represented in this conversation anyway because we are under represented full stop and aren't the ones being transed in huge numbers - if you are a poor woman, especially poor WOC, you know that's what you are, you know you cannot identify out of that because the rest of the world makes sure you know. But yet there are plenty of people on this sub who would berate us for not supporting our "sisters" who are so comparatively privileged and self-obsessed they had to make up an oppression to feel special and would have the nerve to say that the women working three jobs, these mothers struggling to support their children, these girls who can't afford school supplies, victims of forced marriage etc., are the real privileged ones.

No. Just no. Maybe you can afford to fight that fight and if so go ahead, that's your prerogative. But the sheer racist, classist gall you have to have to try and tell other women that we should too lest be we be bad women or bad feminists.

ToughTelephone, r/GenderCritical 4 Comments [8/13/2018 4:23:50 PM]
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Quote# 139794

[Note: Comments in the thread "Actually, no, I won't date or waste my energy on "Trans Men" or "Non Binaries"." by ToughTelephone]

(scienceisarealthing)

Where? Your sentiment is hardly new. It gets posted here daily. What you say is true, but I don’t see anyone here supporting TIFs unquestioningly. I see people pointing out that young GNC lesbian women are victims of transactivism and patriarchy, but that’s not the same thing.
Radical feminism is about tearing out the roots of oppression, and the root is patriarchy, not female victims of the system. Fuck Aunts and handmaidens, but they are the symptom, not the disease. This isn’t letting them off the hook, it’s just not playing the patriarchy’s game for it by never looking beyond the puppets to the dudes pulling the strings.

OP is right, unfortunately I don't have specific links but I have seen often on this sub where women here are berated for not being sympathetic to misogynistic TIF's or considering them our "sisters". It's not tearing down female victims of the system to not sympathize with women who actively harm other women.

The vast majority of women have some level of misogyny just from living under patriarchy. I wish all women could wake up from it and question those beliefs. I am sympathetic to confused women who are told to transition without being given other option for healing. The system is broken, thanks to the idiot activists and those in the medical industry wanting to profit. I’m sympathetic to people who suffer from all kinds of illness.

I’m not sympathetic to people who think they are better than other women because they are men now.

I have not seen someone being berated for not accepting a TIF. what kinds of threads does it come up?

I agree we should have sympathy for gnc women who are socially pressured into transitioning or felt they had no other option. I've seen threads (sorry don't have specific links) where women were told they were infighting, tearing apart the sisterhood, or being manipulated by the patriarchy, (and other things along those lines) for not supporting sexist, maladjusted TIF's.

To me, it seems like guilting women into performing emotional labor for misogynists with personality disorders, and I think it's a symptom of female socialization to have endless sympathy towards people who hate us and even want us dead. I think we can all agree we want feminism to benefit all women, even the horrible ones, but there's a limit to the amount of patience & attention women should give to manipulative, harmful people.

(georgiaokeefesgrotto)
Not from me. I've seen the Tifs and their idea of women as 'junk and udders'. I welcome them back into womanhood if they smarten up but many are cruder than truckers in a rest room on a long haul. Eff them.

(1984stardusta)
"“The only reason everybody is talking about transgenders is because white men want to do it.”

Chappelle received lots of criticism for rhis joke, and more, for pointing that Mexicans or blacks wouldn't get the same treatment, genderism is a white problem.

I see no problem in people dressing up or behaving like the opposite sex, this is far from new, but I can't accept a bunch of privileged white men endorsing violence against women they will rebrand as TERFs and advocate for punching into silence. Normally women who identify as men won't do the same, so it is easier to talk with women.

But I can't start a conversation with anyone who will acuse me of feeling hate against a whole group, this is a coward accusation, without burden of proof, deeply ingrained in privilege of narrative and self entitlement from whom is so spoiled by their lack of real problems that they need to turn any dissenting voice into an imaginary enemy, they need to destroy competition, they need to be the leader of oppression Olympics even if it means to demean women.

So, being a person of color is a hard life, adding to the equation the false accusation that black women are killing white men when we don't say they are women whenever they feel like to be called so is unbearable.

Right? As a woman I’m tired of being silenced for saying anything about the trans community that isn’t “these people are the best people in the world”. This has a horrible effect on my mental health and view of self. Why are these bizarre new groups that everyone wants to talk about protected to the point that it’s hate speech to criticize or even question anything about them or what they say and do?

About transcommunity?

I can't say anything about myself.

When I say I am a biological woman I am offensive to who is not a woman and wants not only self identify as such, but also take leadership, precedence and dominance over my objective reality. On the same vein I should not use words as menstruation, breastfeeding and vagina but I need to accept meekly to be called a menstruator, and listen about chest feeding and fronthole.

I need to teach my kids to hide what they know about human biology, because I was taught it was replaced by wishful thinking.

I need to teach them to hide their knowledge, and shrink their passion about this subject to fit obscurantism.

And I need to pretend that black women and black men are subjected to more likelihood of being murdered then white men, even when they wear dresses.

I

(SCREECHES_AT_HERSELF)
I couldn't agree more. In my experience, trans men & female nonbinaries are commonly emotionally abusive, narcissistic, and hold some really gross beliefs. Some FTMs even go as far as to become stereotypical "women have it easy, it's men who suffer!" MRAs.

People like that are not worthy of my energy. They might be biologically female but that doesn't mean I owe them anything.

As for dating... I'm not attracted to male secondary sex characteristics (even if they're artificial) so no, I'm not interested in trans men. Plus the whole misogyny and "your personality dictates your sex" things are huge dealbreakers anyway.

Begone with this stupid belief that us women should have unwavering compassion for everyone, especially people who view us as lesser. No, I won't support trans men. No, being nonbinary is no better. No, I'm not going to get on my knees and kiss the toes of that "gender critical TIM" that people all think is such a gift to feminism.

(greynose_algebra)
I transitioned several years before I discovered radical feminism and became gender critical. I don't know if you would rather not hear what I have to say, but for what it's worth, I think your points are valid and I get where you're coming from.

No one is obligated to include trans people in their dating pool. No one is obligated to support/lift up/perform emotional labor for anyone at all.

No one should have to waste their time or energy on emotional vampires, no matter what their sex or gender-feelz.

You're not a bad feminist.

(Enjolraic)
It would depend on their beliefs on gender. I'm Internet friends with a TIF and she believes that biological sex is real and she's against calling women TERFs or advocating for violence against us. Basically she's a gender critical trans person. But she's a Marxist, and ideologically sound Marxists are hard to come by these days. Most TIFs seem to believe in tumblr politics, hate radfems and expect gay men to date them just because they cut their hair. Even if I was physically attracted to one, I would want nothing to do with someone with a completely different world view to mine.

I'd never want anything to do with NBs. It's one thing to have dysphoria about your sexual characteristics or be transed because of homophobia, but the entire notion of 'non-binary' is based purely on sexist stereotypes.

(Lemortjoyeux)
Some of them are just predatory as TIMs, usually the GAI BOIZ type who are basically straight women who wanted more oppression points or were so obessed by yaoi they decided to live out this fantasy. They get angry when only other TIFs date them because gay men don't take that bullshit. Local horrible TIF in my city is also a YouTuber spewing lies and distracting from others arguments because she doesn't have any argument other than "not accepting my gender identity hurts my feelings". God I hate her and she's one of the main reasons I don't associate with the local gay community.

(thewilloftheuniverse)
The only Transman i personally know was a friend from high school, who is a second generation Desi. I was especially struck at the fact that the male name she took was "Todd," exchanging her Indian female name for a white male name.

At the time it only made me confused and sad for her. Now it makes me angry too.

(Burnbookburner)
I know a Todd TIF... do you think they realize any grown man named Todd is a huge red flag?

(CatLadyActually)
How so? Is it like Chad?

various TERFs, r/GenderCritical 1 Comments [8/13/2018 4:24:12 PM]
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Quote# 139784

I dont think women have emotions

I think the only thing on their mind 24/7 is sex. The only thing they care about is bragging about the dick they get. They are truly scum and see no evil in getting defiled by 30 men, and even still expect to get wifed up after that. Females are truly retarded and i want to take them on "dates" and act all lovey and then proceed to slut shame them and make them cry.

ItheIthe, incels.me 13 Comments [8/13/2018 10:08:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139787

There's probably better ways to break someone's feefees than outright physical assault.

Employ a longterm villainous plan to bankrupt them. Then, when they are at their most destitute, proffer your penis as a way to suck themselves into a meal they desperately need. Requiem for a Dream that whore.

Dogs can't look up, Kiwi Farms 5 Comments [8/13/2018 3:12:28 PM]
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Quote# 139723

Becky



Beckys are a variant of femoids directly subordinate to Stacies in terms of looks and social status. Despite their lower position on the social totem pole, they will nonetheless pursue the top 20% of males while ignoring their looksmatches. This sexual jockeying often puts them at odds with both each other as well as with Stacies. Although they will gleefully fuck Chad, Beckys will often end up settling for Brad or a high-tier normie when she begins to approach The Wall.

Incel Wiki, Incel Wiki 11 Comments [8/11/2018 6:14:11 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139768

Re: Femcels don't want cha...



(throwawayirl3)
Best believe she gets plenty of free opportunities, just not from Chad

(whatdoinamethiscrap)
She can get all the things she described from lots of men that looksmatch her. But she needs Chad so much she'll pay for him.

(ThotSlayer44)
This. Chad will pump and dump her but not treat her like a princess. If she wanted this pampering treatment she'd need to date an average looking guy but most women would rather die than date their looksmatch.

(ascend2pajeet)
They literally had a thread 2 days ago that said incels are bad people because they're ugly and Chads are good people because they are hot and they were serious. JFL "LOOKISM ISN'T REAL BRO"

(AnyReference)
JFL a lot of incels go for femcels who later reject them and yet they say that incels only want stacy...

(WahmenMustDIe)
And yet again these so called Femcels proved that they are nothing more than Chad chasing whores.

(kin_o)
"female incels" would rather buy Chad's time for a nice fucking, than to even be associated with you and your "baggage"

It's over.

(ThotSlayer44)
I just got banned from r/trufemcels for telling the girl who made that thread to make a Tinder account instead of paying for escorts.

Lmao women are the meme gender.

various incels, r/Braincels 6 Comments [8/13/2018 5:19:24 AM]
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Quote# 139678

Foids can't be interested in male hobbies

Face it guys, foids won't be interested in the same hobbies we're interested in such as video games or anime. Foids are driven by the sole purpose of raising and maintaining their own value, and the foids who do things like play video games is for an ulterior motive of raising their SMV to increase orbiters.

Anonymous MG, Blackpill.online 21 Comments [8/10/2018 9:25:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139717

i am absolutely haunted by how ugly men are allowed to be and still get hot girlfriends

truly seeing that female socialization in action when these gorgeous women are willing to let these fucking goblins lay hands on them

dyke-fibers, Tumblr 8 Comments [8/11/2018 1:47:40 PM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 139756

A countdown was started on August 18, 1920.



On August 18, 1920, The first snowflake that would later form the snowball that is the collapse of the west and return to the dark ages was formed. We’re nearing the end of the countdown. Brace yourselves.

I don’t say this to be hyperbolic or anything.. this was planet earths biggest fuckup. Too many generations of “men” living too comfortable lives fed too many comfortable “truths” didn’t consider why women were kept subservient for all of history. Didn’t take a second to think about it. They fucked up big time. Whether the masses acknowledge it at all is irrelevant. This is the great blackpill of the 21st century. The most taboo topic on earth. The shit you can’t even discuss without being publicly executed.

Don’t believe it the end of times? How about a reminder than a degenerate woman with a degenerate agenda almost became leader of the free world and the powerful person on earth.. we NARROWLY extended the west’s life by maybe a few years. That’s how close we are.. this is a dangerous game.. people need to wake the fuck up and do something about it.

Unrestricted female hypergamous sexual nature is the most destructive force in the world.

Just know that the next step is harems becoming “trendy”.. just wait until some instagram famous guy has 2+ girls that he treats equally (I.e. not main chick/side chick).. once that catches on, it will become normal very soon as that is the default nature of our species. We are literally a few instagram posts away from finally severing the last string that ties us to the developed world and reverting back to life in the jungle..

and then we only a few years after that at most. What a time to be alive.

(Emphasis original)

SchrodingersDick, incels.me 8 Comments [8/12/2018 9:30:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139757

The cock carousel has a rich Crimson Pill history.

The seeds of America’s decline were already evident in the sexual abandon of women unleashed by mid-20th Century. What we’re dealing with now is a post-patriarchal culture set in motion many decades ago.

...

As with all post-patriarchal cultures, demise is guaranteed because abandoning benevolent patriarchy violates fundamental sexual polarity rules which govern relational dynamics between the sexes.

As a reader put it, “Men adapt to nature. Women adapt to man.”

CH, Chateau Heartiste 4 Comments [8/12/2018 11:35:57 AM]
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Quote# 139635

Femoids can be anything; and yet always have access to Chads, while men have to fit specific parameters

Femoids can literally be anything, have any type of personality, be shy, be nerdy, be slutty, be traditional, be liberal, have any types of sexual kinks, they can have a high sexual drive, they can have a low sexual drive, be of any ethnicity, etc. They can be depressed, they can have low confidence, they can have high confidence, they can approach the men they like, they can be approached by the men they like, they can want to be degraded and feel bad about themselves, inflicting pain onto themselves, they can be dominant and enjoy putting others down, they can be into practically any subculture genre, they can have any interests, they can live practically anywhere in the world. They can be rich, they can be poor. AND YET ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS TO HOARDS OF CHADS WAITING FOR THEM.

AND GUESS WHAT, as for MEN, we have to be confident, have a specific dominant personality, be good looking, we have to approach women ourselves and face crushing rejection after rejection, we have to fit these SPECIFIC GUIDELINES and yet women can do / be / like literally ANYTHING and still have more than enough access to fullfill every one of their sexual desires.

Women can DO ANYTHING and Men are confined to these tiny boxes of permittable behavior, and if we step out, then we loose access to any potential source of reproductive pleasures.

ReptileCell, incels.me 6 Comments [8/9/2018 6:23:31 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139749

[Part 3/end, goddammit Jim]

At the time of Jesus, it was the temple, and Jesus famously abrogated this. But the rabbis of the time were engaged in a holiness spiral, which holiness spiral Jesus often vehemently denounced, which holiness spiral led them into suicidal war with the Romans, literally suicidal as they wound up murdering each other and killing themselves, as holiness spirals so frequently end, so we cannot take temple practice at the time of Jesus as indicative of the will of Gnon, or the practice of earlier times. Jesus said no, and they perished. Both of these are good indicators that you are not following the will of Gnon.

What we can take as indicative of the family law of earlier times of those peoples who survived is the wisdom books of earlier times, in particular the Book of Proverbs. Wisdom books were issued by governments to advise their subjects about the private and quasi private incentives for good behavior that were in effect – hence “the wisdom of Solomon”. And according to the section of the Book of Proverbs that claims to have been issued by the court of King Solomon, the incentive for not sleeping with someone else’s women was not that the government would kill you, nor that the temple would kill you, but that the rightful owner of that woman’s sexual and reproductive capability might kill you, and would have every right to do so, legally and openly. So, the Wisdom of Solomon (and of subsequent Kings that repeatedly re-issued that book) is that honor killing is fine. Which is a good indicator of the will of Gnon, since that is a people that survived and of the will of God, since that is the way that Old Testament law on adultery was implemented.

The book of Proverbs has different sections, as it was re-issued by King after King, government after government. But none of the sections threaten state or temple penalties for sexual misconduct, nor do any of the sections drop the Solomonic privately administered death penalty for sexual misconduct, indicating laws on sexual conduct that gave the maximum sexual possible liberty to men, short of allowing one man to tread on another man’s toes, and the minimum possible sexual liberty to women. Since, to form families, men need to conquer, and women to be conquered, such laws are optimal for family formation and reproduction. Such also prevent conflict within the elite (King George the Fourth) and between the elite and the people, by preventing men from competing for women’s favors, by preventing women from giving such favors, thus are optimal for social cohesion. Hence peoples with such laws are apt to invade, and not themselves be invaded. Which is handy if you have high elite fertility as a result of such laws.

So, in Old Testament times, if a man abducted a woman who was not married or betrothed, he was allowed to keep her, and if she was virgin before the abduction, required to keep her, and if she ran away to some other man, he was allowed to kill her and that other man. This is consistent with observed present day behavior of men and women, which indicates descent from populations with severe restraint on female sexual choice, and weak restraint on male sexual choice – indicates that we are descended from peoples who had laws like that, and that peoples more tolerant of female sexual choice failed to reproduce or were conquered and genocided. Our biological character indicates that among the populations from which we are descended male sexual choice was only restricted to the extent necessary to prevent one man’s choice from impinging on another man’s choice, while female sexual choice was almost nonexistent, indicating that Old Testament law, as interpreted and applied by the wisdom of Solomon in the Book of Proverbs, is the will of Gnon, the will of Nature and of Nature’s God.

The Book of Proverbs goes on about sexual misconduct at considerable length. And it describes the reality that I see, not the reality that people keep gaslighting me with. In the Book of Proverbs, sexual misconduct is primarily the result of lustful women manipulating naive men in order to obtain socially disruptive sex. There are no grooming gangs in the Book of Proverbs. Women sexually manipulate men in order to obtain sex in socially disruptive and damaging ways. Men do not sexuality manipulate women. Though the dance is pursuit and predation, conquest and surrender, as if lustful men were imposing themselves on sexless angels, that is the dance not the reality. The reality is that women and girls are lustfully manipulating men and their social environment to obtain social outcomes that in some ways superficially resemble lustful men imposing themselves on sexless angels. That is what the Book of Proverbs depicts, and that is what I see in front of my nose. And yet I live in a world where everyone with astonishing confidence and enormous certainty reports a very different world, a world of men sexually harassing and raping women, a world where male sexual predators lure innocent sexless female children. When I report the world that I see and experience, which is the world depicted in the Book of Proverbs, which is the world that the famous Wisdom of Solomon depicts, some people get very angry.

I have been writing this post over a couple of days. Last night I threw a big expensive party, at which party I played the role of the big high status male, and the highest status male guest, a colleague of my girlfriend’s father, very courteously played along. This morning one of the party girls, who is fertile age but only very recently fertile age, and unfortunately very closely connected to my current girlfriend and that high status male, was still around. This morning, after this post was mostly written and the remaining guests mostly sober, I left for the beach for a swim with my girlfriend. And by coincidence, party girl just happened to decide to put on a bikini that she only recently came to need, and to take a swim shortly after I and my girlfriend left, joining us at the beach. And whenever I remained stationary and facing in a particular direction for any length of time, this young party girl, dressed in a bikini, would find some reason to hang around in that line of vision. You may recall that in my posts on testosterone and weight loss, I have frequently remarked that I have difficulty out-staring a pizza and a pitcher of Mountain Dew.

For men to cooperate effectively, as for example in genociding their less cooperative neighbors and taking their land, they have to keep their hands off each other’s women, and enforce keeping each other’s hands off each other’s women. And since women are notoriously apt to find clever ways to give sneaky fuckers a chance, particularly sneaky fuckers in authority, in order to enforce keeping each other’s hands off each other’s women, they have to enforce each other’s authority over each other’s women. That is why when a group of males moves in on a group of women to attempt a pickup, they first have to agree in advance which of them is going to score which girl so that the girls cannot play them off against each other.

Conversely, the first thing a sneaky fucker in authority or in a position of status is going to do is undermine other men’s authority over their women, even though this strategy is apt to backfire on himself, as it backfired on King George the Fourth.

Romance is an escape hatch out of the tenth commandment. Supposedly it is OK to fuck other men’s women if that is what they want. Tingles supposedly make sex holy, and a woman should supposedly always get whatever man gives her tingles. So a woman can have sex with every man who gives her tingles, which is apt to be a disturbingly large number of men, and stop having sex with any man who stops giving her tingles, who is apt to be the father of her children.

Well I have bad news: Your women, including your daughters starting at a startlingly early age, always want to fuck some strange man because there is always some man higher status than you, so this escape hatch out of the tenth commandment is always going to burn you. Therefore any group of men that allows this escape hatch out of the tenth commandment is always going to perish in the long run. And any time someone claiming high status tells you that your women are not going to be tempted to fuck some high status male, provided you are sufficiently holy, or sufficiently progressive, or sufficiently manly, sufficiently patriarchal, or sufficiently antisexist, or sufficiently loving, is more interested in sneak fucking your wife than in the survival of the group to which he belongs.

These are the real optics: Nobody likes the weak horse, white knighting women and girls as sexless angels looks weak, and sneaky fuckers need killing even if, like William Duke of Acquitaine, they are far from weak.

Jim, Jim's Blog 2 Comments [8/12/2018 9:27:30 AM]
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Quote# 139720

Since the beginning of the “Me, too!” movement, “patriarchy”—and the very idea that females prefer to be feminine—is under attack as never before. The Swedish capital Stockholm has banned ads that portray female stereotypes [Stockholm bans “sexist” and “degrading” adverts from public spaces, By Sara Malm, Daily Mail, 13 June 2018]. An Austrian museum about James Bond will cut out “sexist” aspects of the movie series about the Alpha male and his assorted scantily-dressed Bond girls [Not Licensed to Offend, By Tim Walker, Guardian, June 11, 2018]. On Father’s Day, fathers were supposed to receive “feminist” gifts, to undermine the patriarchal undertones of the celebration [9 Feminist Father’s Day 2017 Gifts For The Dad Who Believes In Equality, By Lindsay Mack, Romper, 7 June 2017, ].

But if a theory recently presented by two female researchers from Britain is correct, then patriarchy only evolved because of the male need to give women what they wanted, females are literally evolved to like and accept the patriarchal system, and, by implication, we’d have no civilization if it hadn’t developed.

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Grant and Montrose argued that patriarchy is, therefore, entirely understandable in evolutionary terms. In China, women’s feet were bound so they couldn’t run away and have affairs. In the Islamic world, women are concealed in public so that no potential cuckolder can be attracted to them. Religions render these traditions—as well as general obedience to the male will—as the desire of the gods, making it even more likely to be obeyed.

And females who fail to obey risk severe punishment, including simply being killed to restore the families’ honour. There are, the authors report, about 300 honour killings in Pakistan annually, with sentences being very lenient compared to those for other murders. In the Middle East, women are killed for actual or alleged adultery, for refusing arranged marriage, for not being virgins when they get married and for being raped, as this implies that they were not being chaperoned by a male relative as mandated. Most societies give daughters far less freedom than sons. Not only are daughters worth more—in the sense that their child will definitely be your grandchild—but we’ve been selected to control them.

The fascinating result of this, argue the authors, is that females are literally evolutionarily selected to accept patriarchy. Those who refuse to have their feet bound, or be circumcised so they can’t enjoy sex, will not be able to get married and so won’t pass on their genes. Such refusal to obey the rules also elevates the likelihood that they’ll be ostracised—in societies where laws make it very hard to be an independent female—or directly killed. Grant and Montrose argue that abortion is particularly problematic in patriarchal societies because it allows women far too much control over themselves.

What this system means is that males—trusting that their investment in the female and her offspring will be worth it—can afford to be less violent, less jealous and more cooperative. They will invest more of their energy in looking after their children, making these children less short-term oriented, able to create stronger social bonds, and likely to be more cooperative.

And so a civilization will duly be able to develop.

This is a compelling theory and the authors also present some clear ways that future researchers can test it: Cuckoldry rates should be lower, and fertility higher, in more patriarchal societies and fundamentalist sub-cultures; the more fundamentalist and patriarchal a society the faster growing its population will be, as women will have no control over their bodies and no option but motherhood; and patriarchy will be stronger in polygamous systems, like Islam, because there will be more women for a husband to control.

Anecdotally, at least, this all these seems to be the case.

So, reducing these findings down to their basics, patriarchy is a result of the evolved psychology and physiology of females. Its development has, in turn, pushed females, for biological reasons, towards being more accepting of patriarchy.

Could it be that the rise in “feminism” is not just due to the collapse of patriarchy but, more profoundly, due to weakened Darwinian selection, due to the less harsh life created by the Industrial Revolution? (See Social Epistasis Amplifies the Fitness Costs of Deleterious Mutations, Engendering Rapid Fitness Decline Among Modernized Populations, By Michael Woodley of Menie et al., Evolutionary Psychological Science, June 2017).

This would mean more “mutant genes” not being removed through high child mortality or spinsterhood for “undesirable” women, such as those which might make people challenge patriarchy?

The authors insist “It’s a Man’s World” but it only became that way due to the power women have over men to force them to bend to their evolved desires for investment and status, as evidence of the ability to invest in resources in their children.

“It’s a Man’s World”—and it’s Women’s Fault?

Lance Welton, Unz 1 Comments [8/11/2018 6:13:39 AM]
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Quote# 139430

Is there anything more hilarious than a miscarriage?

99% of miscarriage are from used up, white roasties who waited until their mid 30s to have a kid. They're cucking their husband (hopefully) with chad and when they do get pregnant, the baby won't form correctly in their STD ridden, filled with countless BBC, hotdog in hallway wombs.

You can't grow a baby in a garbage dumpster so naturally a few months out from the pregnant she learns the kid doesn't even have a head or some fucked up shit.

If you're a white woman, your miscarriage is a fucking hilarious. The whole world is laughing at you and your trash baby that pulled his own plug so he didn't have to be your kid.

mylifeistrash, incels.me 11 Comments [8/2/2018 10:54:14 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139470

I wish teternal suffering upon females, they are the reason of my misery amd i wanna watch them burn in a sea of flames.

Anger, incels.me 7 Comments [8/3/2018 12:38:55 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 139472

Women trying to be political is like fish trying to swim in a thick jelly-like substance. Why is this?

Women can not say true to their political beliefs, and are automatically biased, even more so than most men could ever be. Let's take democracy, government by the people and for the people, where the popular candidate wins. Women may initially look at this concept, and say "sure, this is good". But their tone will quickly chance when the people elect a 4/10, instead of the competing 7/10 candidate.

Women can not be of any political orientation, belief or ideology, because they will always trade their own values for Chad cock. Nationalist women are quick to give up their self-proclaimed "respect for the father/motherland", if this means selection by high SMV men. Overtly globalist, feminist and "liberal" women, the so-called "SJWs" will stop complaining about "oppression", "discrimination" and all perceived unjusts, if they would be chosen by a 6'5 with 9/10 face and a body of a Greek God.

TL;DR Women will always betray their politics when Chad comes into the picture.

fellofix, incels.me 4 Comments [8/3/2018 12:39:50 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 139513



While I STRONGLY disagree with her being allowed anywhere near a teaching position again , and I do think she should have been punished by being forced on a sex offender registry.... her crime is not the same as when a man does it.

Men and women are not interchangeable. Tabula rasa is bullshit and anyone implying it is a propagandist of the highest order. This is one of the biggest contentions I have with many people on this subreddit, they want to play along with the commie bullshit of tabula rasa despite us knowing that it's bullshit.....

Don't play that game. Not saying that's what OP did, but often times people will respond with what I have mentioned and I am pre-emptively striking.

Yes it is,

When a woman has sex with someone under-age, it is rape!

When a man has sex with someone under-age, it is rape!

Having sex with someone under-age is rape! I don't give a fuck who had sex with who!!

No.

No.

No.

Rape by etymological hard-lock definition means force and violence. A breach of age restrictive protocol does not qualify. The grossly misnamed "Statutory rape" is not actual rape unless the target is 12 or younger, in which case I will concede that point.

In simple terms, not all so-called "rape" is equal and to suggest otherwise is pure unadulterated idiocy.

Fantastic opinion you got there. Should I (40 year old male) be able to go out looking for a 14 year old girl to have sex with? As long as she consents, it's all good, right? You are one sick individual for this opinion

Fantastic strawman argument you got there.

Try again, little one.

It's considered a straw man if all he did was switch genders of the situation? I'm not sure you know what a straw man is. Your IQ may be under 18 and like to get fucked but that doesn't apply to children.

He grossly misrepresented my argument, and you are doing the same, what a joke.

You tabula rasa loonies are beneath the level of a child.

I think victim impact should be part of any sentencing.

I work with male survivors and don't know the research, so maybe you could enlighten us.

Half the survivors I work with had female perpetrators. They would disagree with your last sentence. They found their sexual assault by a woman crippling.

Don't be a joke.

her crime is not the same as when a man does it.

It's exactly the same, because it's about age, and position of authority. She raped a minor, while in a position of authority.

Nope.

Men and women are not interchangeable. You can try to pretend otherwise, little tabula rasa acolyte, but reality does not bend to your emotion.

I had sex with a (at least) 24 year old when I was 14.

She was my sisters friend & offered to help me study. She never did & instead we spent a month fucking.

I thought it was cool at the time, it was not. She was gross, a loser, and a predator.

It normalized some things in my mind that were not good. It also let me think some things I did in the future were okay, they weren’t.

I hurt people I care about, and one reason is because this event and others taught me the wrong lessons about what is okay and what isn’t.

Adults should not have sex with children, it’s that simple.

Strawman argument, yawn.

TheMythof_Feminism, r/MensRights 5 Comments [8/5/2018 8:51:53 AM]
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Quote# 139526

Stacy

Stacy is the ultimate embodiment of every wicked, depraved aspect of feminine nature. She is vain, obsessed with jewelry, makeup, and clothes. She is an entitled whore whose rich daddy funds her Caribbean vacations to go "find herself." She entertains a flock of orbiters who shower her with attention and validation, only to open her legs for Chad or Tyrone instead. Stacy exploits her looks and inflated sexual value to coax favors out of her orbiters. Second only to knajjd, she is the most despicable person in existence.

Despite her degenerate character, Stacy will live a superior life to any incel solely on the basis of her looks, her inherited wealth, and her inborn talent for psychological manipulation. She will have the pick of her careers, as any STEM employer will happily take her on to fill a quota. Indeed, she won't even need to work at all if she so desires, as any blue-pilled cuck will happily marry her and pay for all her useless shit. Nonetheless, she will pretend to be the victim of the patriarchy, blaming men for her own deficiencies.

Fucking Stacies, man

Incel Wiki, Incel Wiki 1 Comments [8/5/2018 8:53:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139676

The collapse of civilization is happening in your lifetime. Feminism caused it. There is no coming back from this. Long post.

Expanded upon another post of mine in another thread.. been meaning to post this for you all. I kinda suck at writing so it might be all over the place. There’s a TL;DR down below but I put a lot of effort into this so I’d appreciate if you took the time to read.

For the cucktears lurkers, before you shit on this, Take a step back and look at the world in the context of just another sexually dimorphic mammal species to understand the following.

Civilization is inherently a patriarchy. They are the same thing. One cannot exist without the other. In order for a civlization to exist, female sexual nature (hypergamous genetics-based mate selection) must be kept in check, for men to be treated equally and fairly, to allow for all members to have hope that if they contribute, they can be rewarded with guanrateed breeding right over a female of their choosing. In this sense, it is necessary for the success of a civilization that women be sexually oppressed.. this developed world is a man’s thing and will only ever cater to men. It is our creation for the benefit of all, but mostly genetically subpar, men. It’s all built at the expense of women’s vaginas. Any society in which women have free mate selection can not function. In tribal times, there was 1 sexually successful man for every 17 sexually successful women.. assuming a 100% female sexual success rate, that leaves 94% of men sexless. This is important. If it weren’t for this fact, we wouldn’t have a problem and this site wouldn’t exist. We need to replace genetic currency with something else in order to appease all men and make it possible for everyone to contribute and build something great.. Money was invented. Money must represent survival in order to be worth anything. It must replace the baseline definition of survival meaning a big strong male able to kill other males in a fight. Well we have a police force for that now so no need to worry. But most importantly, it must be able to be used as leverage to purchase pussy under the guise of survival. That’s the only way to keep the male population happy. Without it, women have to reason to mate with subpar men.. This system is inherently oppressive to women. Unfortunately for them, this system favors survival over reproductive success. Everyone survives and procreates but at the expense of females carrying and birthing inferior DNA. Survival is not enough for them. The idea of 1:1 male to female mate pairings guarantees that all the females not paired with a high SMV male with be with a low SMV male and produce genetically poor kids (which is why they are repulsed by low SMV men, which is why rape only exists with low SMV men, but you knew this already, no need to expand), something that disgusts them on a primitive level. It’s a system they need to get rid of.. hence the sexual liberation, fighting for rights, fighting for a right to work, etc. no matter how hard men try to keep a society strong and prosperous, women will actively try and tear it all down.

This snowball formed when women were given rights.. it started a snowball effect. Now there are several things that compounded with each other make for a nightmare scenario for the world.

1: women in the work place. Women earn their own money now. A Man’s resources cannot be used as leverage to purchase reproductive rights with a female. Thus his contributions to the tribe are meaningless as his reward holds no value.

2: genetic misrepresentation and contraception. Estrogen frauding Makeup, plastic surgeries, gym to build a high estrogen ass.. all these things are being used to falsely elevate women’s sexual dimorphism, perceived serum estrogen concentration, age, fertility, etc. notice how every foid does makeup the same way. Thin narrow nose bridge, shadows under the zygos to show zygo projection, rounded chin makeup, eyeliner to fraud thick eyelashes (health indicator).. women are walking around looking like top tier specimens the likes of which would make your caveman ancestors balls explode. Tbh they should bow down to partiarchy that they’re able to walk around like this alone and not immediately be gangraped when they step out of the house looking like they sweat pure estrogen and fertility. And lastly contraception.. things like birth control, condoms and abortion make casual sex and being a whore consequence-free. It’s the reason the cock carousel exists.

3: easy access to a global sexual market. The tribe is no longer a handful of guys and girls with the top guy doing all the fucking. Smartphones, Tinder, Instagram, cars, planes, buses, etc all help make the sexual marketplace a global thing.. in essence it’s an 8 billion member tribe, with easy access to all types of chad dick. Far more competition among males and a far lower sexual success rate among the male population.

4: destruction of religion. Religion isn’t really a thing anymore. It was once a powerful tool to convince women that 1:1 mate pairings are what’s to be expected, no sex before marriage, shit like that (had other reasons too. Keeps men’s testosterone at bay, thou shall not kill, steal, etc. keeps things civil) .. They had a reason to abide and ignore their primal instincts. It did a pretty good job.. now that’s gone, and there’s virtually no way of enforcing monogamy and chastity. Which funny enough, is also the only prerequisite for a woman to get married.. just be a virgin. They can’t even manage that yet a bunch of captain save a hoes are quick to wife em up, and these hoes will wear white on their wedding day symbolizing their purity.. jfl

Compound these 4 new phenomenon together, and you can quickly see that the sexual market is fucked, and a society with a SMP like this cannot sustain itself.. This is a world that belongs to women now. This world automatically excludes all men unfit for reproduction. In this case, it’s likely over 99% of men. What will these men do once they realize money doesn’t buy pussy? Once they realize that if there’s truly no hope for them, they can rely on government assistance, or work a menial bottom tier job just to make enough to survive. If these men even have the drive to go to work, they will have no drive to innovate, get promotions, invent something, become millionaires, etc. you’ll have a lot of complacent men with no motivation to contribute anything. Best hope automation can replace the entire workforce, and if not, then you got a work force made up of 99% women and just lmao if you think that’s gonna take us anywhere. Women have no incentive to make money other than to rid men of their only leverage and open up their prospective mating options. Same deal with them.. they’ll just aim to make the minimum amount to survive and genefraud enough to land 6’4” chad.

This results is a catalysmic shift of the world as we know it.. there will be a total collapse once the number of men who drop out of society reaches critical mass. But until then, you will see a shitload of people dependent on government assistance, the rich being taxed out the ass, who now have even less incentive to keep perusing high paying careers, more people coping with drugs/alcohol, a spike in suicides and mass shootings, high SMV men forming harems, etc.. basically 2018 x10.

For this to happen, It’s not even necessary for the masses to swallow the blackpill.. it’s only necessary for them to realize money doesn’t mean anything anymore. That’s all it takes. Put simply, one’s contributions to society are no longer worth the effort. It’s basically slave labor at that point.

So there you have it. All the causes are there and cannot be reversed.. things have already been set in motion. just wait till the effects of them become painfully obvious. This cannot be fixed since nobody is gonna accept that women’s vaginas are the reason for this. Maybe next time around men don’t fuck up and start the civilization off strong with commoditized pussy. This will all go down in documented history so a mistake like this likely won’t repeat itself. That’s the good news.

This should be lifefuel for you all. You are witnessing the collapse of the most successful civilization on earth in YOUR lifetime. Pretty cool. So ditch your ER plans, untie your ropes, and Sit back and watch the world burn.

TL;DR; a couple rights here and there and a few apps destroyed the world. Patriarchy, religion, and commoditization and sexual oppression of women are paramount to the existence and survival of any civilization. We lack all 4. It’s over. Bunker up and stockpile food and ammo. We’re going back to the jungle.

SchrodingersDick, incels.me 7 Comments [8/10/2018 5:45:56 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139655

No one, no one actually thinks transwomen are women. That's what drives me crazy. Even when I was trans-inclusive I didn't believe that (I wasn't being asked to chant it either, probably would've peak transed me a lot sooner).

NO ONE thinks they are female/women. They think they should be allowed to play pretend, to have everyone else play pretend too, and the cost to actual women is not important.

jelliknight, r/GenderCritical 11 Comments [8/9/2018 10:46:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie