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Quote# 136635

(He's talking about PornHub)

As someone who used to frequent the site. Its all about perverting the masses and normalising disgustingly imoral shit.

Like any guy I like naked chix. But I started noticing a trend in the suggested videos. They would become more and more disturbing.

Whoops a gay vid made it past their filters oh then a tranny one, chix with dix, then for a solid 3 months they would recommend incest porn, step brother step father step sister shit.

Then taboo stuff, Id never watch any of the shit but they start pushing on guys.

They want to make you immoral. To destroy your sense of right and wrong.

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 7 Comments [2/14/2018 12:07:17 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136481

Not needed, with all the NWO, we are all one, one government, one police, it is exactly what the devil worshippers want. It all sounds great, except when you realise that in order to achieve such illusion, billions would have to be killed, and free thought would have to end. It is a smart satanic play, the devil is smart, baha’i is are very stupid and gullible and some actively satanic (your bahai rulers)

68tresculturas68, TheBahaiInsider 3 Comments [2/13/2018 1:43:46 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136466

That's a very good question, Richard! For centuries, we have had liberals and conservatives who have been at war with each other, so to speak. It's fair to say, as you suggest...there ARE lexicographers all over the world past and present, who are in cahoots with the New World Order. They make it no secret, and have been in cahoots to change society, preparing it for the rule of the one world dictator, whom the Bible calls the Antichrist.

For those of us who know the Book, we are seeing the steps literally happening more and more each day as we approach that horrible time in our world's life. In fact, lexicographers are currently working on lexicons for the counterfeit NWO bibles that infiltrated our churches, schools, hotels, motels, courts, etc., since the '50's. That doesn't make them right, but they are the majority now, because there are so many per-versions of the Holy Bible out there, giving people false doctrines, false hopes, and preparing them for their own demise.
Further proof of this are the Georgian Guide Stones and the "17 Sustainability Development Goals" put forward by the UN.

Their first goal is to eliminate global poverty; short of extermination of the poor (to be determined by the UN), how else can they achieve this evil goal? This is where evolution comes into play again, just as it did in Hitler's day. If you do not meet all the criteria, you're exterminated. In my country (Canada) assisted suicide is permitted, which is another genocidal building block upon abortion. We are now being told that our population is so low (due to aborting generations of our babies), that we MUST take in immigrants to make up the difference. The real goal is infiltration and domination for Allah (the moon god). I have no issue with fair and balanced immigration, except our Prime Minister is a professed Muslim, and immediately after coming into office, he appointed a Somalian-born Muslim as our Federal Minister of Immigration. He did that to ensure that only Muslims get in, barbarians who do NOT assimilate, but dominate. Detroit City is a prime example of that. This is evidence of evolution and the New World Order conspiracy (not theory) at play. Forgive me. like old Sophia, "I digress!"

The complete and accurate title of Charles Darwin's thesis proves this, "On the Origin of Species (or more completely, On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life)"

I took that from Wikipedia, and it is correct. Did you get the last part of that long title, "...or the preservation of favoured RACES..."?

Wouldn't you say that from the title alone, that the evolutionary theory was and is being so strongly promoted is extremely RACIST? This title is being cleverly spoken of in its "shortened form", so that people will not declare it to be a racist work! So you see, people need to stop regurgitating everything they've been told, and actually do their own digging.

Much history, etc. online is being revised and rewritten by lexicographers, etc., but thankfully, there are still a number of us old diehards who still possess copies of the original unadulterated works that we can refer to.

You are right, the dogmatic Christians who once believed in the literal interpretation of the Bible are a minority. It wasn't always that way, but as children are being born to ungodly and unChristian parent(s), they move away from the "ancient landmarks", as the Bible calls them. They become more biblically illiterate and move away from the morals, ethics and beliefs of their forefathers. In turn, they pass the ungodliness and ignorance on to their children.

As nature would have it, many solid Bible-believing Christians die each day, and that too, makes us a minority. Therefore, the world is in the mess it is in today. I would prefer to be in the minority that is correctly reading and interpreting God's Word and be saved, than those who are not! Christ said, "Enter you in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leads to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14. Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leads to life, and few there be that find it." Mt. 7: 13, 14. The majority is not always right, as we see at the voting polls on both sides of the border.

Consequently, we have anarchy brewing because every person is a law unto themselves, as the Bible says. "Every man did that which was right in his own eyes"...lawlessness! That results in confusion and chaos, as the politically correct faction are promoting. We older sled dogs who held to our religious God-fearing (reverential) convictions are quickly being outnumbered by the liberals and the Muslims, and soon, there is coming a day when that will result in very bloody and bitter fruit...due to ignorance...and following the pack. For the record, I'm not racist nor do I hate ANYBODY! I don't like the idea that our governmental leaders are too stupid and blind (if they are) to allow our enemies to flood unabated into our countries. In my province, in the news today, a 75 year old couple are being deported because they erred on a minor immigration point many years ago! Another friend of mine had her passport application denied because on it, she said her hair was gray; it's white now. All they had to do was look at this woman's picture on the document and they would know it was her! We have to have all kinds of documentation to prove who we are, but our enemies do not! That is a major conspiracy that is going to gravely affect us all! And, I'm very literal about that!

I, and many others, still hold to the literal interpretation of the Holy Bible because proper hermeneutics (interpretation) demands it. When I see it literally coming to pass, I'm wise to continue with my literal interpretation, wouldn't you say so? In light of what I just said in my previous paragraph, I can see Rev. 20: 4 coming to pass LITERALLY...beheading for one's faith. By the way, those who do not embrace the barbaric and culture of the Dark Ages will also be beheaded. It's all in the Qur'an, which I have; there's nothing peaceful about it anywhere, and people all over the world are embracing these people and their way of doing things. One may call this, "evolution", but I and many others call this clever societal engineering, planned genocide.

For many years, there was a faction of Christendom that got away from the basics, as humanism and secularism crept into the Church, and they allegorized almost everything in the book, trying to avoid God's judgment of them. By doing this, they fell heir to it, and that judgment is closer than most would dare to believe. That's a long answer to your short question, but I like to cover all the bases.

Skywatcher57, Christian News Network 7 Comments [2/11/2018 8:01:26 PM]
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Submitted By: Bob J

Quote# 136455

Actually, teens (14-17) are sexually adults, the liberal elite just punishes people who fuck them because they're embarrassed by their own sexuality because they're insecure cowards and it makes them feel better about themselves by punishing others with less power than them for having sex. They call teen sex pedophilia because people rightfully hate pedophilia and the commoners are too stupid for higher thought like the kind needed for looking at the simple biology that proves teens are capable of sex. We just can't have sex with them because the government is more corrupt than the metal plating a car in a wasteland for 80 years and they send us to prison for it. It has no moral consequences, just legal ones.

Aside from that, it was an analogy. You say that men cannot decide what women can and can't do when it comes to hurting fetuses because men can't feel the pain from fetuses. (Excluding the possible "child support" that will come later which isn't really about taking care of the child, it's just a lie the liberal politicians created because it sounds better than "take money away from innocent men and give it to evil women support". After "child support" is through with a man, he'll be eating out of garbage cans and living in his car.) But normal people can't feel sexual attraction to children, so they have no idea how umm "painful" resisting those urges are, so shouldn't only the pedophiles get a say in it because only they understand the pain? That makes just as much logical sense as only women getting a say in abortion. Neither molesting children nor abortion should be legal.

No ordinary commoner should have the right to decide when it's time to kill someone outside of self-defense. That stuff is always up to the government to decide. Also, sperm can be made into a baby, but a fetus is a baby in progress. Something in progress has equal value, a raw material does not. You wouldn't be charged with burning down a home for burning down a tree, but you would if you burned down a home being built.

RetroSpriteResources, DeviantArt 6 Comments [2/11/2018 6:29:12 PM]
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Quote# 136539

Does the Mossad have Spy Vultures?

True story: Early this week, a griffon vulture flew across the Israeli border and into Saudi Arabia, where it was captured on suspicion of espionage. Local authorities found a GPS transmitter on the bird as well as a leg bracelet emblazoned with TEL AVIV UNIVERSITY. Despite claims by Tel Aviv University scientists that the creature had been tagged as part of a long-term study of area migration patterns using satellite tracking, Saudi Arabian newspaper al-Weeam reported the likelihood of “a Zionist plot.” [read Huffington Post news account]

This concern comes on the heels of recent reports of sharks and jellyfish weaponized by the Mossad, the Israeli foreign intelligence service, then dispatched to wreak havoc on Egyptian tourism. Moreover, as Middle Eastern rumor has it, Israel possesses unmanned aerial vehicles — a.k.a. drones — disguised as barn swallows, so the captured vulture could at least be a decoy. As one al-Qaeda member recently lamented: Step out of your house, you risk being blown up; Stay inside, your house gets blown up too. Whether the vulture innocently flew off course or was in fact part of an elaborate Mossad covert operation, the psychological effect is the same.

And lethal robotic vultures are a possibility.

Keith Thomson, Huffington Post 9 Comments [2/9/2018 1:03:07 PM]
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Quote# 136511

Wild conspiracy about our reality! What if...

We all died and our consciousness was spawned into a simulation. And now its corrupted and degrading...

Crazy right!

Its just crazy how in the past few years diseases and mental illness are at an all time high!

Everyone young and old are either developing cancer or ADD anxiety autism dementia alzheimers.

Its like humanity is just degrading. Not just morally but organically. And perhaps its a system degrading but to us in here it looks like illness and insanity.

And nothing makes sense anymore. Its like "glitchy"

A couple years ago I had a strong sensantion of "I need to get out of here. I dont belong here." It was strong and scary.

Sometimes I truly wonder if the reality we know....isnt actually real.

Either that or I need to stop watching stuff like "Black Mirror"

nythinker, Godlike Productions 7 Comments [2/8/2018 6:19:44 PM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 136510

CERN Plans Perilous Experiment

They want to open a portal and suck in an alternate reality where the Nibiru system does not exist ...


A New Delhi based physicist formerly attached to CERN says the shadowy scientific conglomerate is attempting to supplant our reality with another in which Nibiru does not exist.

Raymund Reddington, Godlike Productions 8 Comments [2/8/2018 6:19:14 PM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

The Million Strawmen March

Quote# 136509

FFS went to the train station and asked for a ticket to Manchester today.

The pink haired, nose-ring wearing woman at the ticket office told me I had committed a microaggression and that it was "Personchester" now.

I wasn't in the mood to debate so I just played along and asked for a ticket to "Personchester".

She typed it into the system and surprise, surprise, no such station could be found.

I suggested she tried typing in "Manchester" and once again, I was warned not to commit any further microaggressions.

She called picked up her phone and asked if the "personager" could come down to fix the problem.

After repeatedly telling the person on the phone to stop committing microaggressions, the manager finally turned up to see what the problem was.

Predictably he told her to just search for "Manchester" as "Personchester" is not a real station.

As you might have guessed the woman was not satisfied with this and started accusing the manager of mansplaining (later self-corrected to "personsplaining").

By now the queue behind me had grown restless and I could hear people starting fights.

The manager, exhausted from arguing eventually knuckled under and phoned the Mayor of Manchester asking whether it was possible to officially change the name of the city to Personchester.

I briefly heard roaring laughter on the other end of the phone.

This would soon stop as soon as the pink haired woman started to speak and the Mayor realized she (or Xir as we were forced to call her) was being serious.

By now people were giving up and attempting to aboard the train without tickets in their masses.

Security guards were physically removing freeloaders from the train, whistles were blowing, attack dogs were running around the platform biting people, it was total chaos.

It was genuinely like being in the dead center of occupied Gaza or Malmo.

By now the woman was bare chested and holding up a placard saying "The Future Is Female" while the manager was curled up in the corner having a mental breakdown.

In the end I had to take several buses up to Manchester.

When I finally arrived at my location I was told I was 8 hours too late for the interview and that the job had already been assigned.

Annoyed I walked back to what was now called Personchester Airport and flew back to Oxford, exhausted and irritated.

These are some of the real life consequences of modern day feminism, it's simply false to say they are just a fringe minority of students and keyboard warriors on the internet.

People were hurt today, jobs were lost, a commuter is being tested for rabies.

So when the most powerful man in Canada forcefully interrupts an ordinary citizen and tells her to say "humankind" instead of "mankind", you'll have to excuse me if I don't just dismiss it as a trivial event.

[When pointed out that this is not convincing]

I have already admitted the details are exaggerated.

However the fact remains I WAS late for a job interview as a result of a feminist ticket seller and I HAVE been repeatedly persecuted by communists in the past leading to the loss of my job as an educator.

This event triggered some very sore memories.

She was being deliberately slow printing out my ticket.

I know it was deliberate because I am known around the area for being a nationalist.

She saw I was dressed for a job interview and wanted me to remain unemployed.

The story I told illustrates the PRINCIPLE accurately.

Xtreme Logic, Twitter 10 Comments [2/8/2018 6:16:24 PM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 136484

Ahmadiyya created by the British have always been spies. The ahmadi cult is protected today by the British government and Freemasons ...ahmadis are deeply involved in the Brotherhood

marcdeberner, Twitter 2 Comments [2/8/2018 2:45:23 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136482

Two British rite Masons are behind the Masonic support for the creation of Bahaism from the mid Baghdad period: Manekji Limji Hataria and Mirza Malkom Khan.They made contact with Baha’u’llah in Baghdad during the mid-1850s and met with him personally.

Only a few short years afterwards Baha’u’llah openly made his claim and relegated Subh-i-Azal to the margins and had all the prominent dissenters murdered. Subh-i-Azal was not willing to play any games with Masons and British agents such as Manekji and Malkom Khan, so the British rite Masons split up Babism and supported Mirza Husayn Ali Nuri Baha’u’llah to make up his own religion which they have supported ever since. The association of Manekji and Malkom Khan with Baha’u’llah is openly admitted by Baha’i sources.

Prithvi Singh, Quora 1 Comments [2/8/2018 2:45:17 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136461



[transcript: High in the sky, an airplane labeled "ILLUMINATI" steals the parachute from a small anthropomorphic Bitcoin and gives it to a huge, fat "Dow Bull". The bull is holding an anvil labeled "DEBT", and the parachute is obviously too small to meaningfully help. The Illuminati plane announces that, "It's Trump's fault!"]


Ben Garrison, Grrr Graphics 9 Comments [2/7/2018 12:03:40 AM]
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Submitted By: pyro

Quote# 136407

10 REASONS WHY SWITZERLAND IS THE SECRET HOME OF THE NAZIS

GERMANY, Undisclosed Location — Although the country of Germany has long been deemed the official birthplace of Nazis and their inherently racist ideology, the following evidence suggests that the Alpine country of Switzerland is and always has been the secret home of Nazis.

Aside from essentially sharing the same culture, language and flag as the Nazis, Switzerland makes no qualms about the fact that they are proud of their Nazi heritage. After all, it’s the only place on Earth where the publicly display of the Swastika and the Nazi salute are openly legal.

Not only that, Switzerland has mysteriously never been attacked by dictators which have devastated Europe over the centuries, namely Napoleon Bonaparte, Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler. That’s because they were all secretly funded by the CIA via Swiss banks which admittedly horded Nazi Gold after World War II.

Today, the Nazis of Switzerland control the world via the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) in Basel, Switzerland, admittedly “the world’s oldest international financial organization” which essentially creates all the money in the world out of thin air on a computer with 1’s and 0’s and loans it to governments with interest (i.e., usury).

Aside from the BIS in Basel, the Nazi control over the world is exercised through CERN in Geneva, the birthplace of the Internet (i.e., Internet Ground Zero) which is used to essentially control and monitor all of the world’s communication, currencies, nuclear reactors/missiles, radio/television programming, satellites, stock markets, etc.

Aside from having the number 666 in its logo, CERN serves as the secret entrance to CIA Headquarters beneath Lake Geneva, an underground base that’s accessible only via submarine and an underground train from CERN. A cinematic tribute to the subterranean Nazi lair is found within the film “Raiders of the Lost Ark” (1981) under the code-name “Geheimhaven“.

Because Nazi Germany was essentially an extension of Switzerland, the “SS” (double S) inherent to the Swastika, the Schutzstaffel and Waffen-SS are consonantly speaking the same as “Suisse” (S+S) and “ISIS” (S+S), the original name of Switzerland currently used in France and the secret-code name of the CIA.

It’s no surprise then that it now been confirmed that Switzerland financed Hitler during World War II by way of Nazi Gold. When employing the old adage of “Follow the money”, the financial backing of the Nazis was unmistakably Swiss and therefore the crimes visited upon Europe by Hitler and Nazi Germany are inherently Swiss in origin.

Had Hitler been a rogue dictator hell-bent on world domination as alleged, he would never have been secretly funded by Swiss banks, and openly sanctioned by the Roman Catholic Church. Instead, he would have gone for the throat, attacking his neighbor Switzerland and looting her gold which mysteriously never happened. The question is ‘Why?’.

Lastly, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that if the Swiss look like Nazis, act like Nazis and talk like Nazis, they’re probably Nazis. Speaking of rocket scientists, 1,600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians escaped the Nazi trials at Nuremberg and were shipped to America under Operation Paperclip.

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1. Admitted Swiss Nazis
As evidenced, there are at least 12 admitted Swiss Nazis who served as the primary financiers, hentchmen and propagandists of Nazi Germany. The fact that this remains one of history’s best kept secrets confirms, albeit in a de facto manner, that the Nazi Party at its core was inherently Swiss. Swiss Nazis include but are not limited to:
Arthur Fonjallaz (was found guilty of being a spy for Adolf Hitler, spending over two years in prison as a result), Ernst Leonhardt(worked closely with Franz Burri to distribute Nazi propaganda whilst also recruiting volunteers for the SS), Ernst Rüdin (a Swiss-born German psychiatrist, geneticist, eugenicist and Nazi who rose to prominence under Emil Kraepelin, assuming his directorship at what is now called the Max Planck Institute of Psychiatry in Munich), Franz Burri (a Swiss political figure who, from his base in Germany, became the leading disseminater of Nazipropaganda in the country), Franz Riedweg (served in the Waffen-SS and was a close associate of Heinrich Himmler who was named head of the Germanische SS Schweiz with SS), François Genoud (a noted Swiss financier and a principal benefactor of the Nazi diaspora through the ODESSA network and was considered the Swiss financier of the Third Reich), Hans Oehler (a Swiss journalist and a sympathizer of Nazism who produced pro-German material), Heinrich Anacker (a Swiss-German author who wrote a spate of SA and Hitler Youth songs and was considered the “lyricist of the Brown Front”), Jakob Schaffner (a leading Swiss novelist who became a supporter of Nazism who joined the Nazi Party and worked as a propagandist for Joseph Goebbels), Karl Jäger (a Swiss-born mid-ranking official in the SS of Nazi Germany and Einsatzkommando leader who perpetrated acts of genocide during the Holocaust), Leonardo Conti (the Reich Health Leader (Reichsgesundheitsführer) in Nazi Germany who killed a large number of Germans who were of “unsound mind” is attributed to his leadership) and Wilhelm Gustloff (founder of the Swiss NSDAP/AO (the Nazi Party organisation for German citizens abroad).

2. Nazi Culture is Swiss Culture
Because Switzerland is and always been home to the real Nazis, they share the same language, symbols and flag as that of Nazi Germany. Firstly, it’s widely known that the Nazis spoke German which is coincidentally the most common language in Switzerland. However, unlike High German which is used in Germany, the Swiss have an underground form of German entitled Swiss German (i.e., “Schwyzerdütsch”, “Schwiizertüütsch”, “Schwizertitsch”, etc.) which is so secretive it’s never been written down. This allows for covert conversation and communication between Nazis around the world which no one other than a natural-born Swiss can decipher. Because the Nazis are inherently Swiss, the flag of the Nazi party features a cross along with the colors red and white, an almost exact reflection of the flag of Switzerland although the cross at the center of the Nazi flag was twisted into an “SS” which is representative of both Switzerland and her CIA (see below). Lastly, what appears to be a tribute to the inherently Nazi Swiss, the primary newspaper of Zürich, Switzerland is entitled “NZZ” (N+Z) which is consonantly speaking the same as the term “Nazi” (N+Z).

3. Nazi Symbols & Salutes Legal in Switzerland
Because Switzerland is the secret mountainous lair of the Nazis, it has no laws forbidding its citizenry from looking and acting like the Nazis that they are. That is why: a) the “Fraternité Blanche Universelle” (“Universal White Brotherhood”) is allowed to operate unabated in Switzerland, b) why Holocaust denial is not expressly illegal in Switzerland, c) why there is no ban on the public display of Nazi symbols such as the Swastika as in Germany, and d) why the Nazi salute is permissible in Switzerland and does not breach hate crime laws as it does in virtually every other country on Earth. In other words, the traditions inherent to Nazi Germany are alive and well in Switzerland.

4. Operation Tannenbaum
Because the Nazis would naturally never attack themselves, Nazi Party leader Adolf Hitler never attacked Switzerland, the richest country in Europe. Instead, he started his quest for world domination by attacking Poland. In order to muddy the water in respect to the fact that Hitler never attacked Switzerland, the Geneva-based CIA disseminated a fraudulent narrative that Germany actually had plans to attack and invade Switzerland under the cover of Operation Tannenbaum (known earlier as Operation Green), the supposedly planned but cancelled invasion of Switzerland by Nazi Germany during World War II. Because Hitler was financed by Switzerland and was following orders from CIA Headquarters in Geneva, he announced in February of 1937, that, “at all times, whatever happens, we will respect the inviolability and neutrality of Switzerland” Although Nazi Germany allegedly planned to end Switzerland’s independence after it had defeated its main enemies in Europe, Hitler remained true to his word and never laid a finger on Switzerland. Nevertheless, the official narrative is that Germany started planning the invasion of Switzerland on June 25, 1940, the day France surrendered. Hitler demanded to see plans for the invasion of Switzerland after the armistice with France. Franz Halder, the head of OKH, recalled this conversation stating that, “I was constantly hearing of outbursts of Hitler’s fury against Switzerland, which, given his mentality, might have led at any minute to military activities for the army”. According to historical accounts, German Army Captain Otto-Wilhelm Kurt von Menges submitted a draft plan for the invasion of Switzerland and Generaloberst Wilhelm Ritter von Leeb‘s Heeresgruppe ‘C’ (HGr. C), led by Generalleutnant Wilhelm List and 12th Army was nominated to conduct the attack. Despite having a 2-million man army in Germany, the plans for the Nazi invasion of Switzerland underwent revisions until October of 1940 when the 12th German Army reportedly submitted its fourth draft entitled “Operation Tannenbaum“. In order to sell the authenticity the plot to invade Switzerland, numerous details about the invasion have been leaked, including Swiss military plans to counter the Nazi invasion. Despite all the planning, Hitler predictably never authorized the invasion of Switzerland for reasons still uncertain today. Although the Wehrmacht feigned moves toward Switzerland during its militar offensives, it never attempted to invade. After D-Day, the alleged Nazi invasion of Switzerland was officially put on hold, permanently. Lastly, in order to sell the fraudulent notion that Hitler was actually going to attack, invade and occupy Switzerland, Hitler is purported to have said many derogatory things about Switzerland. Since most of these quotes were disseminated after Hitler was dead and gone, their validity must be questioned. The anti-Swiss remarks by Hitler reportedly started in June of 1941, when Hitler stated “Switzerland possessed the most disgusting and miserable people and political system. The Swiss were the mortal enemies of the new Germany”. In August of 1942, Hitler allegedly described Switzerland as “a pimple on the face of Europe” and a state that it no longer had the right to exist. Hitler denounced the Swiss people as “a misbegotten branch of our Volk” and described the Swiss as a “wayward branch of the German people“. Despite his hateful rhetoric, Hitler never bit the hand that fed him and his Nazi Party.

5. Secret Underground Nazi Base
The notion that the Nazis have a secret subterranean base accessible only by submarines was confirmed, albeit in a de facto manner, in the film entitled “Raiders of the Lost Ark” (1981) which featured “Geheimhaven“, a secret Nazi supply base located on a deserted island north of the Greek island of Crete. Meaning “secret haven”, Geheimhaven posses a secret submarine pen carved from one of the island’s many caves, a reconnaissance base, and an advanced supply center. In real life, the secret subterranean Nazi base is known as CIA Headquarters which was exposed globally by Truther.org on September 17, 2015. In short, the nuclear physics laboratory known as CERN is the secret entrance to CIA Headquarters beneath Lake Geneva. This is currently where Swiss Nazis run the world from which is coincidentally home of the Internet (Internet Ground Zero).

6. ‘SS’, Swiss & ISIS
The Swastika (a symbol depicting the letter “S” superimposed upon another letter “S”, resulting in “SS”) as well as the letters “SS” used by the Schutzstaffel (the largest and most powerful paramilitary organizations in Hitler’s Third Reich) and the Waffen-SS (the multi-national military force of Nazi Germany) are a symbolic tribute to Switzerland and her CIA. In short, the “SS” is consonantly speaking the same as “Suisse” (S+S) and “ISIS” (S+S), the original name of Switzerland currently used in France and the secret-code name of her CIA. That is why the International Organization for Standardization (ISO), which is coincidentally located in Switzerland, gave Switzerland the country code of CH (i.e., “Chi”), an acronym for Confoederatio Helvetica which numerically equates to the number “38”, the addition of “19+19” or “S+S”. Today, the “SS” is used by the CIA’s Neo-Nazi groups and is found within the name of the state-sponsored terror group ISIS (S+S) which the CIA uses to terrorize people around the world.

7. Nazi Gold & Switzerland
Because Nazi Germany was a cultural and military extension of Nazi Switzerland, it’s no surprise that Germany was funded by Swiss banks. As detailed in the Independent report from March 23, 1997, entitled “How Swiss Oiled Hitler’s Killing Machine“, evidence now confirms that Switzerland and her banks were the primary financial backers of Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany. Without Swiss financial backing, Hitler could never have destroyed Europe, minus Switzerland of course. According to a 1997 book by Professor Jean Ziegler of Geneva and the Sorbonne Universities entitled “Die Schweiz, das Gold und die Toten” (Switzerland, the Gold and the Dead), Switzerland took Nazi Gold in return for hard currency and weapons, enabling the Nazis to continue their war effort when Hitler’s war machine was showing signs of weakening. In reality, Switzerland and her banks funded Hitler from the onset. This notion was essentially confirmed by Ziegler when he stated that “The Swiss financed Hitler’s war of aggression…Without them, the war would have ended earlier and hundreds of thousands of lives would have been saved”. According to Ziegler, he witnessed a German freight train derail in Thun, Switzerland back in December of 1943. Ziegler claims to have seen its Nazi cargo of anti-aircraft weapons, tank turrets and heavy guns. In other words, Nazi war machinery was being made in Switzerland and then being shipped to Germany or elsewhere for battle. Because Ziegler is likely a CIA operative, he blames the Swiss backing of Hitler on greed rather than CIA Headquarters beneath Lake Geneva. However, considering that a United States government report from 1944 found that 90% of Germany’s hard currency came from Switzerland, there is no denying that the funding of Nazi Germany via Switzerland is a fact. Although the Swiss backing of Nazi Germany allegedly totalled 3-billion Swiss Francs, the amount is likely far higher in reality.

8. Nazi Gold Train
Although the so-called Nazi Gold Train concerns a local legend of a Nazi German-era train buried underground in Poland in January of 1945, it has been rumored to exist in south-east Germany which coincidentally borders Switzerland. Although only conjecture, it appears that the Nazi Gold Train narrative was disseminated by the CIA as political cover for the Nazi Gold Train which ran back and forth between Germany and Switzerland prior to, during and after World War II. After all, gold is heavy and there had to be a way for gold to get from Swiss Banks to Nazi Germany in order to fund the war. Although no evidence of the Nazi Gold Train has ever been found, a futile search was conducted by the Polish military from 2015-2016. Nevertheless, according to local legend, the train left Breslau, Poland laden with 300 tons of gold, jewels, weapons and masterpieces. It was allegedly driven into a system of tunnels under the Owl Mountains that were part of an unfinished Nazi secret Project Riese (German for “giant”) near Walbrzych. There it was buried in a warren of tunnels and mines created by the Nazis. It is imperative to note that the Nazi Gold Train narrative began in August of 2015 when CIA Headquarters beneath Lake Geneva which was first exposed on September 17, 2015. Consequently, it appears that the news stories circulating about two unidentified men who had obtained a death-bed confession about a buried gold train were premeditatively disseminated by the CIA in order to muddy the waters in respect to the true location of the Nazi Train which runs between CERN in Geneva and CIA Headquarters located at the bottom of Lake Geneva.

9. Nazi Links to Vatican City & Thereby Switzerland
As detailed ad nauseam by Wikipedia’s ‘Catholic Church and Nazi Germany‘ page, the links between the Catholic Church and Nazi Germany are overwhelming to say the very least. Aside from the fact that Adolf Hitler and several key Nazis were raised Catholic, the Roman Catholic Church essentially sanctioned Hitler and his policies, thereby making them accessories to mass genocide. The Catholic backing of Hitler began in 1933 when Catholic monarchist Franz von Papen, and acting Chancellor and Presidential advisor, General Kurt von Schleicher, assisted Adolf Hitler‘s appointment as Reich Chancellor by President Paul von Hindenburg. The distinct links between the Catholic Church and Hitler primarily because of the special relationship between Switzerland and Vatican City, namely that they are the only two sovereign states on Earth as evidenced by the flag of Switzerland and the flag of Vatican City, the only two nation states with square sovereign-state flags. All other state flags aside from Nepal are rectangular in shape (e.g., flag of China, flag of Russia, flag of the United States, etc.) while the flag of Switzerland and Vatican City are geometrically square for they are represent the only two sovereign states on Earth. The links between Switzerland and the Vatican extend to the Pope who is under the sole protection of the Swiss Guard. The term sovereignty is defined as a state or a governing body that has the full right and power to govern itself without any interference from outside sources or bodies. In political theory, sovereignty is a substantive term designating supreme authority over some polity. In other words, Switzerland and Vatican City are the only countries in the world which are in control of its own destiny. Based on this fact alone, it can be deducted that Hitler and Germany were acting under the jurisdiction and control of Switzerland and/or Vatican City which is why there are so many historical links between them. Lastly, the links between the two countries extend to the Pope who is under the sole protection of the Swiss Guard, making Switzerland ultimately responsible for the Roman Catholic Church and their sanctioning of Hitler and his war crimes.

10. Swiss Dictator Adolf Hitler?
Although Nazi Führer Adolf Hitler has long been rumored to be from Austria which borders Switzerland to the East, it’s far more likely that he was Swiss based purely on the fact that Switzerland is intimately linked, albeit in a de facto manner, to many the world’s most notorious dictators (past, present and future), namely Napoleon Bonaparte, Benito Mussolini, Kim Jong-un, and Barack Obama. Considering that Hitler and Nazi Germany were admittedly funded by Switzerland, and Hitler reportedly visited Zürich, Switzerland on August 26-28, 1923 to “raise money”, it’s highly likely that he was in fact on the CIA’s payroll. Despite the aforementioned Operation Tannenbaum, Hitler never attacked or invaded Switzerland despite having the country virtually surrounded. Although 7 to 9 million deaths are attributed to Hitler during World War II, Switzerland reportedly only suffered 100 casualties. French dictator Napoleon was apparently also Swiss as evidenced by the fact that the Napoleaonmuseum is found in Switzerland which was previously home to members of his family. Although Switzerland served as the staging ground for French battles against the Austrians and Russians, Switzerland was never attacked or invaded by Napoleon’s troops. Although 3.5 million deaths are attributed to Napoleon, Switzerland remained unscathed. In 1902, future Italian dictator Benito Mussolini emigrated to Switzerland where he participated in a series of meetings that organized the communist revolutions and insurrections that later swept Italy and Europe. Similar to his German counterpart Hitler, Mussolini never attacked Switzerland despite the fact that it borders Italy to the north. Although 454,600 deaths are attributed to Mussolini during World War II, Switzerland reportedly only suffered 100 casualties. Why Napoleon, Hitler and Mussolini did not attack or invade Switzerland (the richest country in Europe and on Earth for that matter) while they raped and pillaged Europe only makes sense when it is understood that these dictators were funded and/or groomed by the CIA in Switzerland. It’s also highly likely that Barack Hussein Obama II was also groomed by the CIA in Switzerland to become America’s first dictator. The notion that Obama is from Switzerland was essentially confirmed by a Swiss Info report from July 3, 2010, entitled “Obama’s Roots Traced to Swiss Villager” which revealed that a Swiss archivist has traced “Obama’s family tree to a villager in western Switzerland”. Although Obama’s family tree can be traced back to Fräschels, Switzerland where Obama’s distant cousin once lived, the Swiss village of Ried bei Kerzers appears to be the city where Obama was actually born and raised. Lastly, although North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un is routinely portrayed as mentally unstable, he is under the mind-control of the Geneva-based CIA and acts accordingly. Similar to Mussolini before him, Jong-un lived with his “handler” in Switzerland where he was “spotted” a number of times while attending a so-called “private school” where he was likely being groomed for his eventual role as dictator of North Korea.

11. Ashken-Nazi
Although only conjecture, it appears that the term “Nazi” was originally derived from Ashkenazi, the name used to describe the largest group of Jews who reportedly settled the Rhine River, in Western Germany and Northern France (i.e., Switzerland). As detailed in the Truther.org report from December 25, 2016, entitled “10 Reasons Why Switzerland was the First Jewish State“, evidence suggests that the Jews originally immigrated from Scotland to Switzerland where they live today. This is likely why the seal of the Jesuits is found on the original flag and seal of Geneva, Switzerland, home to the Society of Jesus whose members are called Jesuits. Considering that Jesus Christ was of Jewish ethnicity, it stands to reason that the Society of Jesus is also Jewish. In Eugène Sue’s best-selling book entitled “Le Juif errant” (1844), or “The Wandering Jew” in English, she states that the Jesuits are a “secret society bent on world domination by all available means”, a reflection of the Nazi’s New Order which also sought global domination. Consequently, it’s not surprising that the most famous Nazi named Adolf Hitler would also be Jewish ethnicity, possibly Ashkenazi. In 1933, the “London Daily Mirror” allegedly published a picture of a gravestone at a Jewish cemetery in Bucharest, Romania, which was inscribed with Hebrew characters depicting the name of one Adolf Hitler. That being said, no photo has been found of this gravestone on the internet. Roughly 77-years later on August 10, 2010, “The Telegraph” of London confirmed Hitler’s Jewish ethnicity via DNA tests which found that 39 relatives of Hitler showed that they have biological links to Jewish lineage. According to Wikipedia’s account of Hitler, “Alois’s mother had been employed as a housekeeper for a Jewish family” and “Several sources provide strong evidence that Hitler had Jewish friends in his hostel and in other places in Vienna”. This suggests that Hitler’s hate for Jews did not pertain to his own life. Hitler’s legal wife Eva Braun is also reportedly of Jewish as evidenced by the fact that Braun has a specific sequence within her mitochondrial DNA that belongs o the haplogroup N1b1 which is associated with Ashkenazi Jews.

David Chase Taylor, Truther.org 11 Comments [2/5/2018 4:17:50 PM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 136312

Is the global cabal planning a MASS SACRIFICE at this year’s SUPER BOWL in Minneapolis?

We all know that they like to broadcast their dark plans ahead of time, because they think that if they warn us and we don’t notice then it is our own fault and they incur less karma. That’s how their sick, twisted minds work.

Take a look at this video released on January 18, 2018 and tell me that is not the Minneapolis skyline at the end?

There are so many subliminal messages in this, it’s hard to detail, but ones I caught were a police car on fire, automatic weapons, a loudspeaker THUN-250, a brain scan followed by another with adrenaline. The overt all-seeing eye capstone being lifted off the pyramid with lasers coming out, whilst people worship it is very clear.

A child says at the end, “Die already. Just leave.”

And then there are the lyrics.

Tiaka9, Godlike Productions 10 Comments [2/5/2018 7:41:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136306

Ken Livingstone, who was investigated but only lightly punished by the Labour yrty for his repeated claims that Hitler “was supporting Zionism”, has participated in a special programme on Iranian propaganda station Press TV. Press TV was stripped of its broadcasting licence by Ofcom but Mr Livingstone was invited onto a show disseminated via social media, apparently to coincide with Holocaust commemoration ceremonies.

The programme began with a sickening propaganda introduction by presenter Roshan Muhammed Salih, who asked callers to call in and debate whether the Holocaust has become a weapon used by Israel, “with the accusation of antisemitism regularly thrown at its enemies”, or whether “the memory of the Holocaust has been exploited for political or financial gain” and “corrupted Jewish culture”.

Callers claimed that Holocaust commemoration is used as a clever political device to support the supposed oppression of the Palestinians and to benefit “Zionists” without being challenged.

One caller from the UK, Maisoon, said that the word “Holocaust” had been “manipulated by the Jews”. She berated Mr Livingstone for talking about antisemitism because she accused him of failing to “mention the fact that Palestinians and Arabs are Semites”. Mr Livingstone only challenged her when she said that she did not distinguish between Jews and Zionists, at which point Mr Livingstone told her about the large number of anti-Zionist Jews that he said he knows.

Asked by Mr Salih why there are so many films about the Holocaust and not about the Palestinians, Mr Livingstone claimed that “anyone doing a film about that is going to be announced [sic] antisemitic”.

In a repetition of his previous claims, Mr Livingstone also said that when he was suspended by the Labour Party for claiming that Hitler “was supporting Zionism”, he “couldn’t walk down the street without Jewish people coming up to [him] and saying ‘We know all this is true, what is all this about? Don’t these MPs read their history?’ It’s not about antisemitism, it’s about political struggle inside the Labour Party.”

The presenter, Mr Salih, continually repeated the message that the Palestinians are being made to pay for the Holocaust and that modern “Zionists” are benefitting from the fact that the Holocaust happened. He also attempted to compare the Vietnam War with the Holocaust but Mr Livingstone took issue with that on the basis that the Vietnam War “was not a genocide”. Mr Livingstone also felt the need to contest Mr Salih’s wondering aloud whether two million, four million or six million Jews were murdered in the Holocaust, stating that the only “credible” number he had heard was six million.

Mr Salih also appeared to take up a position as an apologist for Hamas when blogger Richard Millett called the show to point out that the Hamas Charter proclaims that “The hour of judgement shall not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them”. Mr Salih cut Mr Millett off, chuckling incredulously: “Hamas do not call for the death of every single Jew in their charter, that is complete nonsense. They have a problem with Israel and the Jews who have come to that part of the world to take their land.” Mr Livingstone did not interject.

Ken Livingstone, Roshan Muhammed Salih, Maisoon, Campaign Against Anti-Semitism 3 Comments [2/5/2018 7:38:42 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 136431

TOP 10 REASONS TO HATE THE STUPOR BOWL

1
THE PRE-GAME MEDIA HYPE
About the only thing more crass than pre-Christmas hype is pre-Stupor Bowl Mania. To prolong the idiotic and tiresome drama, the NFL (National Felons League) maintains a two-week lag between its semi-final games and the Stupor Bowl Championship game.

2
THE PSEUDO PATRIOTISM

Before the Stuper Bowl actually begins, viewers must sit through not only the National Anthem, but also "America the Beautiful," usually sung by some no-talent, America-hating degenerate. That America the Ugly has deviated so far from the vision of its noble and learned founders that it is now unrecognizable, is lost upon the brain dead masses who get all choked up over the empty rituals.


Beyonce the Obama-loving, anti-White Communist Go-Go whore-skank lip syncs the National Anthem.

3
THE MINDLESS MILITARISM

As helicopter gunships, bombers, proxy armies and Predator Drones murder children in faraway lands, idiot America is dazzled by pre-game fighter jet flyovers and marching Marines. No one even questions how such a vulgar display of miltary power fits in with a football game.

[...]

5
THE DEGENERACY OF THE HALFTIME SHOW

From Janet Jackson's bare breast performance of 2004, to washed up Madonna's booty-grinding Satanic symbolism of 2012, to Beyonce's street whore outfit of 2013, to Katy Perry's weird occult performance in 2015, the Stupor Bowl halftime show has degenerated into a spectacle symbolizing everything that is wrong with America's so-called "culture." Whatever happened to marching bands?

[...]

7
THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY'S INVASIVE ANTICS

Under the guise of "preventing terrorism," the Feds have expanded their harassment of American citizens. Stupor Bowl attendees are now screened and monitored just as airline passengers are. The ironic tragedy of this farce is that it is the Feds themselves who are staging the terror attacks for political purposes.

[...]

9
DRUNKEN FAT WHITES CHEERING FIT BLACK HEROES

We hold no animosity towards Black players in the NFL (those who are not felons and cop-hating communists, that is). However, any self-respecting White person should be alarmed and ashamed that so few Whites are playing football on a professional level these days. It was not always like this.

Some of this has to do with natural Black athleticism and "hunger." But much of it is the result of an entire generation of suburban White children having become too soft,lazy and de-balled to excel in a rough sport such as football. Another negative factor is the ignorant prejudice, which starts at the college recruitment level, that White players cannot excel at certain positions.

To behold the spectacle of a 95-97% White audience in the stands, full-throat cheering for a 85% Black player base, is as bizarre as it is worrisome for the future of European man.

10
THE MISGUIDED PASSION OF THE FANATICS

Nothing wrong with a little diversion and fun cheering for your hometown team; but many of these "fans" display a passion so intense that a straight-jacket is warranted. If only they would get as agitated about Obongo and Fed robbing them blind, or their children's future in a permanently depressed economy, or the innocent people in faraway lands being killed by the US-Israel led Axis of Evil, or the never-ending flood of "migants" being pumped into America, or the potential coming wars with Russia and China, or the fact that their elementary school kids are being forced to learn of the joys of homo-anal sex and cross-dressing. What pathetic losers these people are!

"Soon we shall begin through the press to propose competitions in art, in sport in all kinds these interests will finally distract their minds from questions in which we should find ourselves compelled to oppose them. Growing more and more unaccustomed to reflect and form any opinions of their, people will begin to talk in the same tone as we because we alone shall be offering them new directions of thought."

- The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, circa 1900


Mike King, Tomato Bubble 13 Comments [2/4/2018 7:17:51 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 136426

Here in the once free country of Germany Merkel and her Gestapo have taken control of all free speech, any criticism of islam, muzzies, or arab’s can find you having merkels secret police visiting your home and taking you away. People are talking in private in our homes and we are going to get rid of this trader of the German people. Merkel’s muzzies are the reason for anti semitic crimes, it wasn’t even bad before she let the hordes into the country, we aren’t fooled about where the blame lies on.

mahal2, Bare Naked Islam 3 Comments [2/4/2018 7:05:43 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136425

Anders Brevik was the first to take action against those who would flood his country with muslim killers and rapists. He took the fight directly to the politicians when he attacked and killed their own.. It was a case of “you throw us to the wolves, we return the favour by knocking on your doors”..Sadly, it will take extreme action to counter the extreme circumstances that are being forced on us all by the political elites, who use “Political Correctness” and “Progressiveness” to justify their shameful activities against the people…

The Leftist media will always throw the “Far Right” label into the mix as it suits their agenda to demonize anyone who goes against their narrative when it comes to Islam and muslims.. You need to read all about the “Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan” to get a perspective on what is truly happening in the world today, and especially Europe…. Tell everyone who will listen and spread the word. There are plenty of links to be found, so use the tools that are readily available and get yourself educated…. I include one here for your perusal…

Ordinary Fella, Bare Naked Islam 3 Comments [2/4/2018 7:05:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136422

Hamas is a Zionist Mossad creation, controlled opposition to 'justify' continued Zionist brutality to Palestinians.

hulathehebrew, Twitter 1 Comments [2/4/2018 7:02:10 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136379

Deadly Immunity

In June 2000, a group of top government scientists and health officials gathered for a meeting at the isolated Simpsonwood conference center in Norcross, Ga. Convened by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the meeting was held at this Methodist retreat center, nestled in wooded farmland next to the Chattahoochee River, to ensure complete secrecy. The agency had issued no public announcement of the session -- only private invitations to 52 attendees. There were high-level officials from the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration, the top vaccine specialist from the World Health Organization in Geneva, and representatives of every major vaccine manufacturer, including GlaxoSmithKline, Merck, Wyeth and Aventis Pasteur. All of the scientific data under discussion, CDC officials repeatedly reminded the participants, was strictly "embargoed." There would be no making photocopies of documents, no taking papers with them when they left.

The federal officials and industry representatives had assembled to discuss a disturbing new study that raised alarming questions about the safety of a host of common childhood vaccines administered to infants and young children. According to a CDC epidemiologist named Tom Verstraeten, who had analyzed the agency's massive database containing the medical records of 100,000 children, a mercury-based preservative in the vaccines -- thimerosal -- appeared to be responsible for a dramatic increase in autism and a host of other neurological disorders among children. "I was actually stunned by what I saw," Verstraeten told those assembled at Simpsonwood, citing the staggering number of earlier studies that indicate a link between thimerosal and speech delays, attention-deficit disorder, hyperactivity and autism. Since 1991, when the CDC and the FDA had recommended that three additional vaccines laced with the preservative be given to extremely young infants -- in one case, within hours of birth -- the estimated number of cases of autism had increased fifteenfold, from one in every 2,500 children to one in 166 children.

Even for scientists and doctors accustomed to confronting issues of life and death, the findings were frightening. "You can play with this all you want," Dr. Bill Weil, a consultant for the American Academy of Pediatrics, told the group. The results "are statistically significant." Dr. Richard Johnston, an immunologist and pediatrician from the University of Colorado whose grandson had been born early on the morning of the meeting's first day, was even more alarmed. "My gut feeling?" he said. "Forgive this personal comment -- I do not want my grandson to get a thimerosal-containing vaccine until we know better what is going on."

But instead of taking immediate steps to alert the public and rid the vaccine supply of thimerosal, the officials and executives at Simpsonwood spent most of the next two days discussing how to cover up the damaging data. According to transcripts obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, many at the meeting were concerned about how the damaging revelations about thimerosal would affect the vaccine industry's bottom line.

"We are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits," said Dr. Robert Brent, a pediatrician at the Alfred I. duPont Hospital for Children in Delaware. "This will be a resource to our very busy plaintiff attorneys in this country." Dr. Bob Chen, head of vaccine safety for the CDC, expressed relief that "given the sensitivity of the information, we have been able to keep it out of the hands of, let's say, less responsible hands." Dr. John Clements, vaccines advisor at the World Health Organization, declared that "perhaps this study should not have been done at all." He added that "the research results have to be handled," warning that the study "will be taken by others and will be used in other ways beyond the control of this group."

In fact, the government has proved to be far more adept at handling the damage than at protecting children's health. The CDC paid the Institute of Medicine to conduct a new study to whitewash the risks of thimerosal, ordering researchers to "rule out" the chemical's link to autism. It withheld Verstraeten's findings, even though they had been slated for immediate publication, and told other scientists that his original data had been "lost" and could not be replicated. And to thwart the Freedom of Information Act, it handed its giant database of vaccine records over to a private company, declaring it off-limits to researchers. By the time Verstraeten finally published his study in 2003, he had gone to work for GlaxoSmithKline and reworked his data to bury the link between thimerosal and autism.

Vaccine manufacturers had already begun to phase thimerosal out of injections given to American infants -- but they continued to sell off their mercury-based supplies of vaccines until last year. The CDC and FDA gave them a hand, buying up the tainted vaccines for export to developing countries and allowing drug companies to continue using the preservative in some American vaccines -- including several pediatric flu shots as well as tetanus boosters routinely given to 11-year-olds.

The drug companies are also getting help from powerful lawmakers in Washington. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, who has received $873,000 in contributions from the pharmaceutical industry, has been working to immunize vaccine makers from liability in 4,200 lawsuits that have been filed by the parents of injured children. On five separate occasions, Frist has tried to seal all of the government's vaccine-related documents -- including the Simpsonwood transcripts -- and shield Eli Lilly, the developer of thimerosal, from subpoenas. In 2002, the day after Frist quietly slipped a rider known as the "Eli Lilly Protection Act" into a homeland security bill, the company contributed $10,000 to his campaign and bought 5,000 copies of his book on bioterrorism. Congress repealed the measure in 2003 -- but earlier this year, Frist slipped another provision into an anti-terrorism bill that would deny compensation to children suffering from vaccine-related brain disorders. "The lawsuits are of such magnitude that they could put vaccine producers out of business and limit our capacity to deal with a biological attack by terrorists," says Andy Olsen, a legislative assistant to Frist.

Even many conservatives are shocked by the government's effort to cover up the dangers of thimerosal. Rep. Dan Burton, a Republican from Indiana, oversaw a three-year investigation of thimerosal after his grandson was diagnosed with autism. "Thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines is directly related to the autism epidemic," his House Government Reform Committee concluded in its final report. "This epidemic in all probability may have been prevented or curtailed had the FDA not been asleep at the switch regarding a lack of safety data regarding injected thimerosal, a known neurotoxin." The FDA and other public-health agencies failed to act, the committee added, out of "institutional malfeasance for self protection" and "misplaced protectionism of the pharmaceutical industry."

The story of how government health agencies colluded with Big Pharma to hide the risks of thimerosal from the public is a chilling case study of institutional arrogance, power and greed. I was drawn into the controversy only reluctantly. As an attorney and environmentalist who has spent years working on issues of mercury toxicity, I frequently met mothers of autistic children who were absolutely convinced that their kids had been injured by vaccines. Privately, I was skeptical. I doubted that autism could be blamed on a single source, and I certainly understood the government's need to reassure parents that vaccinations are safe; the eradication of deadly childhood diseases depends on it. I tended to agree with skeptics like Rep. Henry Waxman, a Democrat from California, who criticized his colleagues on the House Government Reform Committee for leaping to conclusions about autism and vaccinations. "Why should we scare people about immunization," Waxman pointed out at one hearing, "until we know the facts?"

It was only after reading the Simpsonwood transcripts, studying the leading scientific research and talking with many of the nation's preeminent authorities on mercury that I became convinced that the link between thimerosal and the epidemic of childhood neurological disorders is real. Five of my own children are members of the Thimerosal Generation -- those born between 1989 and 2003 -- who received heavy doses of mercury from vaccines. "The elementary grades are overwhelmed with children who have symptoms of neurological or immune-system damage," Patti White, a school nurse, told the House Government Reform Committee in 1999. "Vaccines are supposed to be making us healthier; however, in 25 years of nursing I have never seen so many damaged, sick kids. Something very, very wrong is happening to our children." More than 500,000 kids currently suffer from autism, and pediatricians diagnose more than 40,000 new cases every year. The disease was unknown until 1943, when it was identified and diagnosed among 11 children born in the months after thimerosal was first added to baby vaccines in 1931.

Some skeptics dispute that the rise in autism is caused by thimerosal-tainted vaccinations. They argue that the increase is a result of better diagnosis -- a theory that seems questionable at best, given that most of the new cases of autism are clustered within a single generation of children. "If the epidemic is truly an artifact of poor diagnosis," scoffs Dr. Boyd Haley, one of the world's authorities on mercury toxicity, "then where are all the 20-year-old autistics?" Other researchers point out that Americans are exposed to a greater cumulative "load" of mercury than ever before, from contaminated fish to dental fillings, and suggest that thimerosal in vaccines may be only part of a much larger problem. It's a concern that certainly deserves far more attention than it has received -- but it overlooks the fact that the mercury concentrations in vaccines dwarf other sources of exposure to our children.

What is most striking is the lengths to which many of the leading detectives have gone to ignore -- and cover up -- the evidence against thimerosal. From the very beginning, the scientific case against the mercury additive has been overwhelming. The preservative, which is used to stem fungi and bacterial growth in vaccines, contains ethylmercury, a potent neurotoxin. Truckloads of studies have shown that mercury tends to accumulate in the brains of primates and other animals after they are injected with vaccines -- and that the developing brains of infants are particularly susceptible. In 1977, a Russian study found that adults exposed to much lower concentrations of ethylmercury than those given to American children still suffered brain damage years later. Russia banned thimerosal from children's vaccines 20 years ago, and Denmark, Austria, Japan, Great Britain and all the Scandinavian countries have since followed suit.

"You couldn't even construct a study that shows thimerosal is safe," says Haley, who heads the chemistry department at the University of Kentucky. "It's just too darn toxic. If you inject thimerosal into an animal, its brain will sicken. If you apply it to living tissue, the cells die. If you put it in a petri dish, the culture dies. Knowing these things, it would be shocking if one could inject it into an infant without causing damage."

Internal documents reveal that Eli Lilly, which first developed thimerosal, knew from the start that its product could cause damage -- and even death -- in both animals and humans. In 1930, the company tested thimerosal by administering it to 22 patients with terminal meningitis, all of whom died within weeks of being injected -- a fact Lilly didn't bother to report in its study declaring thimerosal safe. In 1935, researchers at another vaccine manufacturer, Pittman-Moore, warned Lilly that its claims about thimerosal's safety "did not check with ours." Half the dogs Pittman injected with thimerosal-based vaccines became sick, leading researchers there to declare the preservative "unsatisfactory as a serum intended for use on dogs."

In the decades that followed, the evidence against thimerosal continued to mount. During the Second World War, when the Department of Defense used the preservative in vaccines on soldiers, it required Lilly to label it "poison." In 1967, a study in Applied Microbiology found that thimerosal killed mice when added to injected vaccines. Four years later, Lilly's own studies discerned that thimerosal was "toxic to tissue cells" in concentrations as low as one part per million -- 100 times weaker than the concentration in a typical vaccine. Even so, the company continued to promote thimerosal as "nontoxic" and also incorporated it into topical disinfectants. In 1977, 10 babies at a Toronto hospital died when an antiseptic preserved with thimerosal was dabbed onto their umbilical cords.

In 1982, the FDA proposed a ban on over-the-counter products that contained thimerosal, and in 1991 the agency considered banning it from animal vaccines. But tragically, that same year, the CDC recommended that infants be injected with a series of mercury-laced vaccines. Newborns would be vaccinated for hepatitis B within 24 hours of birth, and 2-month-old infants would be immunized for haemophilus influenzae B and diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis.

The drug industry knew the additional vaccines posed a danger. The same year that the CDC approved the new vaccines, Dr. Maurice Hilleman, one of the fathers of Merck's vaccine programs, warned the company that 6-month-olds who were administered the shots would suffer dangerous exposure to mercury. He recommended that thimerosal be discontinued, "especially when used on infants and children," noting that the industry knew of nontoxic alternatives. "The best way to go," he added, "is to switch to dispensing the actual vaccines without adding preservatives."

For Merck and other drug companies, however, the obstacle was money. Thimerosal enables the pharmaceutical industry to package vaccines in vials that contain multiple doses, which require additional protection because they are more easily contaminated by multiple needle entries. The larger vials cost half as much to produce as smaller, single-dose vials, making it cheaper for international agencies to distribute them to impoverished regions at risk of epidemics. Faced with this "cost consideration," Merck ignored Hilleman's warnings, and government officials continued to push more and more thimerosal-based vaccines for children. Before 1989, American preschoolers received 11 vaccinations -- for polio, diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis and measles-mumps-rubella. A decade later, thanks to federal recommendations, children were receiving a total of 22 immunizations by the time they reached first grade.

As the number of vaccines increased, the rate of autism among children exploded. During the 1990s, 40 million children were injected with thimerosal-based vaccines, receiving unprecedented levels of mercury during a period critical for brain development. Despite the well-documented dangers of thimerosal, it appears that no one bothered to add up the cumulative dose of mercury that children would receive from the mandated vaccines. "What took the FDA so long to do the calculations?" Peter Patriarca, director of viral products for the agency, asked in an e-mail to the CDC in 1999. "Why didn't CDC and the advisory bodies do these calculations when they rapidly expanded the childhood immunization schedule?"

But by that time, the damage was done. Infants who received all their vaccines, plus boosters, by the age of six months were being injected with a total of 187 micrograms of ethylmercury -- a level 40 percent greater than the EPA's limit for daily exposure to methylmercury, a related neurotoxin. Although the vaccine industry insists that ethylmercury poses little danger because it breaks down rapidly and is removed by the body, several studies -- including one published in April by the National Institutes of Health -- suggest that ethylmercury is actually more toxic to developing brains and stays in the brain longer than methylmercury. Under the expanded schedule of vaccinations, multiple shots were often administered on a single day: At two months, when the infant brain is still at a critical stage of development, children routinely received three innoculations that delivered 99 times the approved limit of mercury.

Officials responsible for childhood immunizations insist that the additional vaccines were necessary to protect infants from disease and that thimerosal is still essential in developing nations, which, they often claim, cannot afford the single-dose vials that don't require a preservative. Dr. Paul Offit, one of CDC's top vaccine advisors, told me, "I think if we really have an influenza pandemic -- and certainly we will in the next 20 years, because we always do -- there's no way on God's earth that we immunize 280 million people with single-dose vials. There has to be multidose vials."

But while public-health officials may have been well-intentioned, many of those on the CDC advisory committee who backed the additional vaccines had close ties to the industry. Dr. Sam Katz, the committee's chair, was a paid consultant for most of the major vaccine makers and was part of a team that developed the measles vaccine and brought it to licensure in 1963. Dr. Neal Halsey, another committee member, worked as a researcher for the vaccine companies and received honoraria from Abbott Labs for his research on the hepatitis B vaccine.

Indeed, in the tight circle of scientists who work on vaccines, such conflicts of interest are common. Rep. Burton says that the CDC "routinely allows scientists with blatant conflicts of interest to serve on intellectual advisory committees that make recommendations on new vaccines," even though they have "interests in the products and companies for which they are supposed to be providing unbiased oversight." The House Government Reform Committee discovered that four of the eight CDC advisors who approved guidelines for a rotavirus vaccine "had financial ties to the pharmaceutical companies that were developing different versions of the vaccine."

Offit, who shares a patent on one of the vaccines, acknowledged to me that he "would make money" if his vote eventually leads to a marketable product. But he dismissed my suggestion that a scientist's direct financial stake in CDC approval might bias his judgment. "It provides no conflict for me," he insists. "I have simply been informed by the process, not corrupted by it. When I sat around that table, my sole intent was trying to make recommendations that best benefited the children in this country. It's offensive to say that physicians and public-health people are in the pocket of industry and thus are making decisions that they know are unsafe for children. It's just not the way it works."

Other vaccine scientists and regulators gave me similar assurances. Like Offit, they view themselves as enlightened guardians of children's health, proud of their "partnerships" with pharmaceutical companies, immune to the seductions of personal profit, besieged by irrational activists whose anti-vaccine campaigns are endangering children's health. They are often resentful of questioning. "Science," says Offit, "is best left to scientists."

Still, some government officials were alarmed by the apparent conflicts of interest. In his e-mail to CDC administrators in 1999, Paul Patriarca of the FDA blasted federal regulators for failing to adequately scrutinize the danger posed by the added baby vaccines. "I'm not sure there will be an easy way out of the potential perception that the FDA, CDC and immunization-policy bodies may have been asleep at the switch re: thimerosal until now," Patriarca wrote. The close ties between regulatory officials and the pharmaceutical industry, he added, "will also raise questions about various advisory bodies regarding aggressive recommendations for use" of thimerosal in child vaccines.

If federal regulators and government scientists failed to grasp the potential risks of thimerosal over the years, no one could claim ignorance after the secret meeting at Simpsonwood. But rather than conduct more studies to test the link to autism and other forms of brain damage, the CDC placed politics over science. The agency turned its database on childhood vaccines -- which had been developed largely at taxpayer expense -- over to a private agency, America's Health Insurance Plans, ensuring that it could not be used for additional research. It also instructed the Institute of Medicine, an advisory organization that is part of the National Academy of Sciences, to produce a study debunking the link between thimerosal and brain disorders. The CDC "wants us to declare, well, that these things are pretty safe," Dr. Marie McCormick, who chaired the IOM's Immunization Safety Review Committee, told her fellow researchers when they first met in January 2001. "We are not ever going to come down that [autism] is a true side effect" of thimerosal exposure. According to transcripts of the meeting, the committee's chief staffer, Kathleen Stratton, predicted that the IOM would conclude that the evidence was "inadequate to accept or reject a causal relation" between thimerosal and autism. That, she added, was the result "Walt wants" -- a reference to Dr. Walter Orenstein, director of the National Immunization Program for the CDC.

For those who had devoted their lives to promoting vaccination, the revelations about thimerosal threatened to undermine everything they had worked for. "We've got a dragon by the tail here," said Dr. Michael Kaback, another committee member. "The more negative that [our] presentation is, the less likely people are to use vaccination, immunization -- and we know what the results of that will be. We are kind of caught in a trap. How we work our way out of the trap, I think is the charge."

Even in public, federal officials made it clear that their primary goal in studying thimerosal was to dispel doubts about vaccines. "Four current studies are taking place to rule out the proposed link between autism and thimerosal," Dr. Gordon Douglas, then-director of strategic planning for vaccine research at the National Institutes of Health, assured a Princeton University gathering in May 2001. "In order to undo the harmful effects of research claiming to link the [measles] vaccine to an elevated risk of autism, we need to conduct and publicize additional studies to assure parents of safety." Douglas formerly served as president of vaccinations for Merck, where he ignored warnings about thimerosal's risks.

In May of last year, the Institute of Medicine issued its final report. Its conclusion: There is no proven link between autism and thimerosal in vaccines. Rather than reviewing the large body of literature describing the toxicity of thimerosal, the report relied on four disastrously flawed epidemiological studies examining European countries, where children received much smaller doses of thimerosal than American kids. It also cited a new version of the Verstraeten study, published in the journal Pediatrics, that had been reworked to reduce the link between thimerosal and autism. The new study included children too young to have been diagnosed with autism and overlooked others who showed signs of the disease. The IOM declared the case closed and -- in a startling position for a scientific body -- recommended that no further research be conducted.

The report may have satisfied the CDC, but it convinced no one. Rep. David Weldon, a Republican physician from Florida who serves on the House Government Reform Committee, attacked the Institute of Medicine, saying it relied on a handful of studies that were "fatally flawed" by "poor design" and failed to represent "all the available scientific and medical research." CDC officials are not interested in an honest search for the truth, Weldon told me, because "an association between vaccines and autism would force them to admit that their policies irreparably damaged thousands of children. Who would want to make that conclusion about themselves?"

Under pressure from Congress and parents, the Institute of Medicine convened another panel to address continuing concerns about the Vaccine Safety Datalink data-sharing program. In February, the new panel, composed of different scientists, criticized the way the VSD had been used to study vaccine safety, and urged the CDC to make its vaccine database available to the public.

So far, though, only two scientists have managed to gain access. Dr. Mark Geier, president of the Genetics Center of America, and his son, David, spent a year battling to obtain the medical records from the CDC. Since August 2002, when members of Congress pressured the agency to turn over the data, the Geiers have completed six studies that demonstrate a powerful correlation between thimerosal and neurological damage in children. One study, which compares the cumulative dose of mercury received by children born between 1981 and 1985 with those born between 1990 and 1996, found a "very significant relationship" between autism and vaccines. Another study of educational performance found that kids who received higher doses of thimerosal in vaccines were nearly three times as likely to be diagnosed with autism and more than three times as likely to suffer from speech disorders and mental retardation. Another soon-to-be-published study shows that autism rates are in decline following the recent elimination of thimerosal from most vaccines.

As the federal government worked to prevent scientists from studying vaccines, others have stepped in to study the link to autism. In April, reporter Dan Olmsted of UPI undertook one of the more interesting studies himself. Searching for children who had not been exposed to mercury in vaccines -- the kind of population that scientists typically use as a "control" in experiments -- Olmsted scoured the Amish of Lancaster County, Penn., who refuse to immunize their infants. Given the national rate of autism, Olmsted calculated that there should be 130 autistics among the Amish. He found only four. One had been exposed to high levels of mercury from a power plant. The other three -- including one child adopted from outside the Amish community -- had received their vaccines.

At the state level, many officials have also conducted in-depth reviews of thimerosal. While the Institute of Medicine was busy whitewashing the risks, the Iowa Legislature was carefully combing through all of the available scientific and biological data. "After three years of review, I became convinced there was sufficient credible research to show a link between mercury and the increased incidences in autism," state Sen. Ken Veenstra, a Republican who oversaw the investigation, told the magazine Byronchild earlier this year. "The fact that Iowa's 700 percent increase in autism began in the 1990s, right after more and more vaccines were added to the children's vaccine schedules, is solid evidence alone." Last year, Iowa became the first state to ban mercury in vaccines, followed by California. Similar bans are now under consideration in 32 other states.

But instead of following suit, the FDA continues to allow manufacturers to include thimerosal in scores of over-the-counter medications as well as steroids and injected collagen. Even more alarming, the government continues to ship vaccines preserved with thimerosal to developing countries -- some of which are now experiencing a sudden explosion in autism rates. In China, where the disease was virtually unknown prior to the introduction of thimerosal by U.S. drug manufacturers in 1999, news reports indicate that there are now more than 1.8 million autistics. Although reliable numbers are hard to come by, autistic disorders also appear to be soaring in India, Argentina, Nicaragua and other developing countries that are now using thimerosal-laced vaccines. The World Health Organization continues to insist thimerosal is safe, but it promises to keep the possibility that it is linked to neurological disorders "under review."

I devoted time to study this issue because I believe that this is a moral crisis that must be addressed. If, as the evidence suggests, our public-health authorities knowingly allowed the pharmaceutical industry to poison an entire generation of American children, their actions arguably constitute one of the biggest scandals in the annals of American medicine. "The CDC is guilty of incompetence and gross negligence," says Mark Blaxill, vice president of Safe Minds, a nonprofit organization concerned about the role of mercury in medicines. "The damage caused by vaccine exposure is massive. It's bigger than asbestos, bigger than tobacco, bigger than anything you've ever seen." It's hard to calculate the damage to our country -- and to the international efforts to eradicate epidemic diseases -- if Third World nations come to believe that America's most heralded foreign-aid initiative is poisoning their children. It's not difficult to predict how this scenario will be interpreted by America's enemies abroad. The scientists and researchers -- many of them sincere, even idealistic -- who are participating in efforts to hide the science on thimerosal claim that they are trying to advance the lofty goal of protecting children in developing nations from disease pandemics. They are badly misguided. Their failure to come clean on thimerosal will come back horribly to haunt our country and the world's poorest populations.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Interner Archive; originally published on Salon, later retracted 4 Comments [2/2/2018 7:10:26 AM]
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This is breaking: Paul Ryan was onboard the train carrying lawmakers, a whole bunch of lawmakers, to a high-level GOP retreat. A truck kamikaze rammed it, a cement truck, a big truck, a dump truck kamikaze rammed it. And Paul Ryan was on board. There’s one dead. A bunch of people injured. But what’s the odds of this? No, this is a message, you better believe it. And they’re going to spin it and try to, “Oh, it’s no big deal, everything’s fine.” “Oh, Vegas isn’t Islamic.” Of course it’s come out it has. “Oh, there’s not multiple shooters.” This is a serious message, very serious message that we can get you anywhere you are. You go to your baseball practice, we’re going to shoot you. We’re going to come after your family.

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You had two miles away in Washington Antifa meeting with videos and police raids saying they were going to derail trains at that exact place and derailing a train a month before, but nobody -- it wasn’t a passenger train. And then they go, “Oh, the driver admits that he missed the speed limit and just went ahead and went too fast around there.” Yeah, whatever. I mean, this is getting ridiculous.

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