Quote# 128951
(OK, this seems to actually be a woman agreeing with an incel)
(eekkggsghost)
The more I interact with women online the more I agree with this is sub
I'm a total shut-in, but in the past year I've talked with many women through this sub and reddit, and what can I say, I'm rather disappointed. I've never gotten any attention from anybody before, let alone women, so things were great for a while, but then certain patters started to emerge as they shared more and more.
Said patters are:
Complaining about no guy wants them while they have a rich dating history and dozens to hundreds of matches on dating sites.
Claiming they've dated man uglier than them... and then they show me their pictures. The guy is always on their level or higher. I've only encountered one exception to this, and she's a 9.5/10, he's an 8.5/10. I'm now convinced than women are incapable of determining the attractiveness of their partner.
Many of these girls have or have had sugar daddies. These completely average looking girls are getting paid thousands of dollars. Often they don't even have to have sex. It's ridiculous.
Almost all of them have high n-count in the dozens, some even 50<. Fucking loads of guys when they are young then finding a provider later is very common. Although in my experience it's not about money. It's about the urge to have children and fear of being alone.
Braking up for little to no reason. When they get bored with someone they'll find the smallest little detail to break up, knowing full well they'll be with a different guy in a week.
Complaining about "severe" or "very bad" social skills or anxieties, while having a rich social life and going out with friends/BF all the time. I understand that they perceive it as such, but come on.
Only wanting to talk about their problems and disappearing when I tried to talk about similar issues of my own.
Staying in abusive relationships for who knows what reason.
Braking promises and not being able to be on time. But that's because they don't like me and only want to interact with me to show how nice and good they are, as a form of charity.
Saying how they don't care about looks yet going on and on about what their BF/ex looks/looked like(I have to say that women's tastes seem to be slightly more varied than what this sub believes, not by much though). Same with large cocks.
I have to say these are my PERSONAL experiences of the last 12 months with women I met on reddit, and never in real life. The only exceptions to these seem to be women with health issues.
(OutOfPlatitudes)
I think part of the problem is meeting those women on this board.
Non-incels come here and it's really hard for them to understand. I think it's especially hard for women.
I think even normie guys can sort of empathize if they aren't too caught up in white knighting. They might not agree, but I think many can recognize, if they had been born with a less fortunate face, they could have been an Incel too...even if they don't agree with you.
Women, on the other hand, come here and see how we're vilified, called retarded, told we're stupid and will always pick a Chad and never pick an incel. We're called the 'ez mode' gender when everywhere else is all on board the feminism train. That makes them pissed off because, "I am not like that!!" "Not all women do that!!"
To be fair I don't think ALL women cuck and throw away good relationships for 1 night stands with a Chad...but I also think women are in denial about how common that actually is. We love our Chads, but we don't want to admit we wouldn't love them or even have given them a chance if they were much lower on the looks match scale as us. So instead we say 'looks don't matter'.
Incels call that out as bullshit and women usually double down saying everyone can find someone if they look hard enough.
They see Incels talking about killing themselves, how much pain they are in and "LDAR". I think this bothers women more than men because women want to think they can fix an incel.
I imagine that your friendships go something like this:
1) Woman's ego is hurt seeing a whole group of men who think all women, including her, are terrible.
2) Woman feels bad about herself and sees "black pillers" as just hurt & the right woman hasn't come along and they will change their mind. She's also mad because she doesn't see herself the way Black Pillers do.
3) Woman tries to talk to Incels. Either defends women or gives platitudes/advice for hope/etc...gets told to fuck off and she's an idiot etc. At this point she either leaves or she sticks around because she really wants to be liked
4) She tries to strike up a conversation. Many incels don't go for this and tell the woman to fuck off but eventually, /u/eekkggsghost or someone like him gives them a chance to converse.
5) Despite being black pill, the hope of attention means the Incel tries to be a friend. The woman likes the attention and that she isn't one of the 'bad ones' now. She likes the 'feel good' of perhaps changing a black piller's mind about women, or at least about her.
6) Her ego is sufficiently restored. But she doesn't want to date an Incel. She might like an Incel's friendship...but over time it's likely to be a frustrating friendship for both sides.
7) Incel leans heavily on the friendship because he desires friendship/companionship more than she does (supply & demand). He may want a relationship and overstep boundaries but more likely than not the Incel will stay frustratingly friend zoned and accept that.
8) No longer needing validation...the woman will realize being friends with someone who is depressed & LDAR isn't easy or fun.
9) At this point is when they are harder to get ahold of, or they'll tell you their problems but stop listening to yours, stop showing up on time or leave you hanging by committing to all plans with 'maybe' and only show if there's nothing better to do.
10) Eventually, this will spark a fight & the friendship will end. Woman will feel justified because she's constantly feeling dragged down by a high maintenance friendship & Incel will feel justified in agreeing with Black Pill beliefs.
Except incels supporting other incels, I don't think people can make healthy friendships in a subreddit like this. It'll probably end 95% of the time with friendships who's core is tied up in the misery of being an incel.
I think if you keep talking to women you meet on this subreddit, or through things about Incels/black pill, you'll continue to see the same pattern you've been observing.
(eekkggsghost)
That's a perfect summary.
But she doesn't want to date an Incel
I kinda disagree with this, just a little bit. There are a handful of people who got into relationships through this sub. I believe some of these women I'm talking about were actually willing to at least sleep with me(... that's pretty hard to do from thousand of miles away though). Some girls are turned on be the idea of being the first for someone, even if it's just a fantasy. And one I believe would have dated me, if we lived in the same place. I mean it would have been a disaster, yes, but I KNOW she was genuine. Misguided, delusional, but genuine.
eekkggsghost & OutOfPlatitudes,
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