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Quote# 129311

19 peak attractivity? Umm... Is this a feminist blog? All evidence suggests men prefer girls around fourteen if
Given the chance.

Anonymous, EIVIND BERGE'S BLOG 4 Comments [7/18/2017 9:29:16 AM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: X

Quote# 129296

Why does the roastie wear so much perfume?
Is it to hide that their snatch smells like an ancient tomb?

Or could it be meant to attract and groom,
To fuck a Chad in his Fruit of the Loom?

This solemn blackpill fills me with gloom,
Femoids are whores starting from the womb.

My_Post_Is_On_Topic, r/incels 6 Comments [7/18/2017 9:27:11 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129264

(choosebaseoftwo)
An Incel Next to A Normie: Women lurking, would you give the guy on the right a chance if he had a heart of gold? I know you wont.



(WhiteFolder)
Yeah they won't give him a chance, but they know some lucky girl out there would, just not them. *Insert other normie platitudes

(choosebaseoftwo)
Haha. Women. If even one woman on Earth finds a guy to be not attractive, every other female on earth will never find that guy to be attractive either. Women tend to like the same kind of guy, that's why all those posts on LadyBoners are conventionally attractive white men and the very rare non-white guy that every female agrees is attractive.
If even one female says to a guy "you look fine! I'm sure there is a girl out there for you!" it means every woman on earth will think that guy is unattractive too. It's also a sly way women reject men that are ethnic, women are very racist.

(HomoheroBishii)
The roasties are MIA as expected. Even the fat ones would turn a guy who looks like this down. Any woman who marries an ugly man due to his kindness or money will cuck him or have a dead bedroom for life.

(commander_zoidberg)
Gas chamber for both of them i say. Betas of any kind must be purged.

(choosebaseoftwo)
Funny thing is, in 2017, the guy in the middle would get rejected by every female too. Women's standards are extremely high now and they wont date a guy that isnt 8.5/10 nowadays.

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What?
I am below average looking because women consider 85% of men to be unattractive so being a 5/10 in looks isnt enough. I am ethnic too so I am below average to all women because of that. I know I have problems and I'm not good enough for any woman because of things I cant change.

(h3rting)
the only arrangement where a woman is genuinely capable of loving her partner to the full extent of her biological female love is when he is significantly more attractive than her , no exceptions

various incels, r/Incels 7 Comments [7/18/2017 9:25:13 AM]
Fundie Index: 1

Quote# 129208

FAIR WARNING: if you're a woman who has extremely thin skin please don't read any further: you WILL get offended. If you think you can handle what follows - then proceed at your own risk.

When you live like a whore by sharing your body with any and every guy that strikes your interest - don't get mad when you end up with the whore's reward! You asked for it!

The whore's reward consists of children out of wedlock, emotional trauma and instability, the inability to be with just one man long term, multi-penis syndrome, mental problems, and being highly undesirable for marriage.

What's multi-penis syndrome? That's when you find yourself wondering if the guy you just met has a penis large enough to fulfill your sexual desires. That's a whore's problem! Only whores worry about that kind of mess!

Because had you done things God's way your husband's penis would be the ONLY penis you've ever experienced! Owning dildos and sex toys are also symptoms of multi-penis syndrome.

A lot of women are right now suffering the consequences from living like outright whores during their younger years. They spurned Godly wise counsel from the scriptures, believing the Bible was old-fashioned and outdated. And did their own thing instead.

Now they are eating the fruits of what they've sown. And many are unhappy with the bitter taste. They can't get married, can't maintain a long term relationship leading to marriage, can't meet a quality guy, and only seem to hook up with men who want to use their bodies for semen target practice.

See, God didn't give me wisdom to help EVERY women out there. I don't know what the struggles of single Chinese migrant women are.

But He did give me wisdom to help a specific type of woman: the ones this post is referring to, who threw away their golden opportunities in their younger years and are now reaping the rewards for their poor choices later in life.

I can definitely help THOSE women because I know exactly what their problems are. I know precisely what's holding many of you back from getting married. The problem is that this is the most stubbornly obstinate group of women on the planet!

Though I can help them, many of them are so scared and jaded they prefer instead to sling insults and to fight, rendering helping them a virtual impossibility.

I'm at the point now where all the help I'm willing to give on this topic is found in my relationship ebook. And if you're not willing to read that, I'm not willing to do anything else for you. Just wallow in your own self-made misery like a pig rolling in its own slop.

Truth is: until you repent for living a whore's life, most of you who want to be married but aren't yet - never will be.

Doesn't matter how Christian, educated, smart, pretty, bougie, college degreed, sorority pledged or intelligent you think you are: there will always be a consequence for violating Godly principles. Especially as it relates to sex.

You cannot cheat or beat God's system! God's way works: always has and always will. God's system is His Kingdom. It's an eternal kingdom that predates humanity and Earth itself. We are not wiser or smarter than God is. This is why His way continues to prevail like a mountain, while everything else crumbles around it.

The cure is simple: humble yourselves. So many of you are yet still arrogant and unrepentant. I can see it in the comment streams on my page whenever I promote my relationship ebook for women.

Women who are chronically single will immediately flood the comment stream pretending they have the answers; when they obviously do not. They can't be humble enough to just quietly get the ebook. Instead they have to pretend like they know what to do: when apparently if they did its not even working for them.

Here's some more truth for you to digest: Many of you don't have as much time to get right as you might think. The older you get the less chances you'll have to be seen by single men as anyone worth getting married to.

Younger guys will only tend to want to have sex with you: including the ones you meet at church! And older guys think you're full of too much baggage to seriously bother with, so they're overlooking you for marriage in favor of the younger women.

You're in a precarious predicament if you truly want to get married some day. You really don't have the luxury of time on your side anymore.

There is a glimmer of hope in all of this - my ebook Saved Sexy And Still Single: Why Christian Women Can't Get Married Even Though They Love God. For many of you its your only ray of hope, and your absolute last chance. You should've read it first! Could've been married by now.

Get it, read it and be humble enough to let the Spirit of God use it to heal what's broken in your life. Link is in the comment section below.

Mack Major, Facebook 7 Comments [7/18/2017 9:21:23 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 129445

(Nerdcrusher4)
The fact that only misogynistic VIRGINS are made fun of proves how deeply ingrained the adoration for genetically superior males is in the human psyche

Misogynistic guys who get laid are loved and adored by ALL. There is NO ONE telling them they need to change, and NO ONE telling them they don't deserve to get laid. Everyone knows they deserve to get laid because of their superior genes.

The reason people tell niceguys and incels not to be misogynistic isn't because they have a deep hatred for misogyny. It is because you are not ALLOWED to be misogynistic as a genetically inferior male.

(theemperorhirohito)
Lookism is the ultimate rule of our society.

(ovrload)
Chad is seen as cute if he's weird. But if it's a normal average joe he would be seen as a total loser and creep.

ruck_stuck_fuck_muck)
Women: 'Creepy' = behaving in a way that makes a women uncomfortable; both attractive and unattractive men can be creepy based on their actions

Reality: 'Creepy' = ur ugly fagget

(MGTOW-Wizard)
How can people even blame you for the mysoginy at this point. These Normans will agree with our statements and contradict themselves time and time again without fail. Say they agree females are evil and then turn around and try to give advice when they haven't even got it figured OUT themselves.

Then they're like 'what can we even do about it just accept it'. WE HAVE THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE ANGER.

The blue pill... Not even once

(GeneticSewage)
You can do whatever you want in life, just be attractive. You can beat up a 16 year old like Jeremy Meeks, you can be a drug addict, you can be a misogynist who beats and cheats on girls, you can be a drunk driver, you can murder, you can talk about your fake anxiety and it won't matter. Just don't be ugly. The world is your oyster if you are attractive. This homeless guy became a model, because of looks, things just work out for you when you're attractive.http://www.etonline.com/news/178280_kendall_jenner_and_gigi_hadid_turned_this_homeless_man_into_a_male_model/

If an ugly guy instead of this 6ft4 chad said this, everyone would call this guy a creepy, misogynist, that deserves to suffer.https://www.instagram.com/p/BPJUpUWA6bd/

justforlulzandkeks)
This homeless guy became a model, because of looks

lmao

fuck this gay earth

(OrangeFez2311)
Most incels want a long-term relationship with one female.

Most normies and all Chads pump and dump as many women as quickly as possible because they view them as sex objects rather than people. Not only that, normie society rewards people with high "n counts" with endless amounts of social validation.

Who's really the misogynist here????

(nerdcrusher4)
Incels: Women's sexual attraction is complex and intelligent, as a genetically inferior male with heavily recessed maxilla a simple haircut and change of clothes is not going to fool women into thinking I am an ideal mate.

Normies: gym shower and haircut and you get a girl easy ;)

(OrangeFez2311)

lol just be confident bruh, just go to a bar, get some drinks and start dancing bruh, the women will flock to y'all bruh, y'all

(nerdcrusher4)
People respect white knight virgins about as much as they respect a dead animal on the road. Is there really point in going from no respect to that? There is no point in being a white knight if you are a virgin.

Various incels, /r/incels 6 Comments [7/18/2017 8:40:02 AM]
Fundie Index: 1
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 129444

Was chilling at Costa for Lunch, it became quickly busy and a female asked if she could sit at the spare seat while she waits for her order. I was a little puzzled while she wanted to sit next to a subhuman like me but I figured she was just desperate not to stand. I was in a chill mood so I motioned for her to sit.

She noticed I was watching Always sunny in Philadelphia and asked what episode I was on. The conversation went into favourite characters, episodes then onto other TV shows, movies, hobbies and interests (told her the ones I did at uni). She even brought her lunch back so we could continue. For a moment I was in blue-pill heaven and forgot the black-pill teachings and actually thought I be in something meaningful.

Well, next thing I hear is a "Hey" from a familiar voice, I turn to see a Chad I knew from Uni. I could literally hear you guys say in unison "IT'S OVER!" I looked at her and she had that typical female lustful look with a flash flood between her legs.
I asked him why was he here and he said he got transferred for work. She quickly turned her attention to him, eating up anything little thing he said. Well 10 seconds of being cucked was all I could take and quickly slipped out.

Moral of the story: When trying to build a connection with a female, it will be completely destroyed when Chad or a physically superior male arrives.

dontcryimalreadydead, r/incels 8 Comments [7/18/2017 8:39:57 AM]
Fundie Index: 1
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129442

The life cycle of a 5/10 roastie

Age 6-10: Watches shows on Disney Channel and Nickelodeon where the female main character dreams of dating the good looking High School Chad, and then her dream comes true and he becomes her boyfriend.

Age 11-13: Sets her sights on the hunkiest middle school Chad, and expects him to ask her out, because that's what she saw happen time and time on the TV shows she grew up on. The dance is coming up and she expects Chad to ask her out, but oh no, Chad is going with the more attractive girl. Some less attractive guys ask her out, but she's disgusted by them, and it hurts her self esteem to know that those average looking guys thought they had a chance with her.

Age 14-17: Chad has had several more girlfriends now, and it crushes our 5/10 roastie each time he chooses a girl and it's not her. Still, she anxiously anticipates the next dance and dreams that Chad will pick her. Then one day, Chad comes up to her with a smile and asks her out. Her heart melts, she's in bliss. She thinks to herself "Wow, Chad is finally starting to mature. Now that he's seen those dumb bimbos for what they are, he broke up with them because he realizes I'm a better girl than them." She thinks it's going to end up like the movies now, she thinks she's going to lose her virginity to him, and then they are going to get married, just like in the American Pie film series. She loses her virginity to Chad, and then to her heartbreak, Chad gets bored of her and dumps her so he can pursue other girls. Average looking guys keep asking her out, but she thinks "If a hunk asked me out once, then another Chad will ask me out again"

Age 18-24: And she was correct! Our 5/10 girl is now in college and many, many Chads have asked her out, and most of them are even better looking than the high school Chad. The relationships all last only a few months, either because Chad dumps her, or because the girl breaks up with him because the current Chad didn't measure up to the previous Chads in some way, and thus the girl considers him to be lower value than what she is capable of getting. Our girl thinks "It's difficult finding the right guy, but one of these days I will find him and we will get married."

Age 23-30: The girl's subsequent boyfriends get successively less attractive, because after college she finds it difficult to get a hot boyfriend. Finally at age 30, she's with her least attractive boyfriend, who is a 5/10 just like her, because her ovaries are drying up and she is desperate to get married and have a child.

Age 35: Now she has a kid and a husband who loves her, but she's disgusted by her husband because he's just so much uglier than the hunks she got plowed by in college. She thinks "Marrying him was a mistake. He just doesn't feel right. He's not The One. One day I will find the one and he will be good looking and he will adore me." She divorces him and takes all his money.

Age 38: She's frustrated because she is realizing that dating is thousands of times harder now than it used to be. Even when she sits alone for hours at the coffee shop, no guys approach her. Then our woman looks at an old photo from 5 years ago and realizes she is significantly less attractive now than she was in the photo. She rushes to the store to buy all the expensive anti-aging products she can, but she continues to age rapidly as she nears the end of her fertile years, and new wrinkles appear on her face every week. She realizes that now 95% of her sexual value is gone, and it reflects in her behavior. Now she is like a hungry dog, salivating over all men between the ages of 25 and 45. She now is very very nice to ugly guys and gives a big smile whenever she speaks to them, despite the fact that she felt like she was too good to even talk to the same guys when she was in college.

Age 39: Our woman is now getting married to a successful 30yo 2/10 virgin Indian engineer named Pradheep. Pradheep feels very lucky to get a white woman. He feels like his hard work has finally paid off. LOL.

Incel4Life, /r/incels 4 Comments [7/18/2017 8:39:51 AM]
Fundie Index: 2
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 129440

Strangely enough, my father had brought up something interesting while we were having a lengthy discussion about feminism.

Do you think modern feminism, the wave from the 60s, was just made by the ugly women?

I almost laughed it off. Absurd! I have been researching and reading on feminism, its initial benefits and the destructive pattern it started taking on later on. It sounded like a bad joke on feminism, that only ugly women would like it because of the poor taste. Nowadays, I admit many beautiful women, especially celebrities, are feminists. Though I still think most of them are quite the unattractive, unladylike type, I know there are attractive ones.

But then— zoom back to the 60s and 70s to the very grassroots of the second wave of feminism. You have figures like Betty Friedan, Germaine Greer and Andrea Dworkin. Just look and think about it— cringe-worthy, really. Definitely, to me they’re very unattractive, plain ugly.

Okay, so they were ugly, what does that have to do with feminism? Maybe just about everything. My father answered with a slight laugh.

“They were the ugly ones no man wanted to marry and have as a housewife. They probably once wanted the comfy life, but because they’re ugly, their personalities are ugly- no man wanted them. So they pushed the feminist movement not for other women, but just to use other women to get more power and leverage in the system. To get revenge on men.”

Well, goodness! It all clicked into place for me. Mind you, this is at best a theory, but doesn’t it make so much sense? It has long been proven that women enjoyed being homemakers for the most part, they enjoyed it, pre-feminist movement. That is a fact schools don’t teach, sadly, because it is against the liberal, feminist agenda.

Maybe these women did, or secretly once did, but because they look like train wrecks and act like savages, no man was idiotic enough to fall for it.

Alex Stepford, That Stepford Gal 2 Comments [7/18/2017 8:39:42 AM]
Fundie Index: 2
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129429


(Background: Caveman
"No dates, no talking, hit her in the head and take her home
Best era ever")

Anonymous, Facebook 12 Comments [7/17/2017 11:01:21 PM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129427

the reason lots of guys are crazy into cute traps despite not being into regular guys at all is because women aint shit and we dudes know it

good traps have almost all the positive aspects of women, cute and sexy looking (feminine), hot
if u can look past the benis its perfect

and traps have none of the negatives of women ike being a massive obnoxious cunt, women suck in general(FACT)
boys know what other boys need

if u can't look past the penis and go like "ew thats gay" ur a fuckin pussy faggot
you wouldn't know its a dude if it wasn't for the benis

AceLoliBot, Twitter 14 Comments [7/17/2017 11:01:02 PM]
Fundie Index: 2
Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 129419

(Note: I'll only post the best ones here, but trust me, there's pretty much a race war between incels in the comments there, LOL)

(TwinkleEye)
Huge suicide fuel for Asian Incels and confirming looks > personality once again

(Oneairic)
You don't really need to post any supporting evidence for this. Any Westernized Asian male who simply goes outside is already blackpilled due to white male - asian female couples outnumbering the opposite by a ratio of 25:1.

(ricecel)
Honestly it's pinkcel racism aka "white supremacy" that is actively fucking over asiancels. Do you think a white chad is going to waste his time fucking around with some asian bitch when he can just fuck stacies?

It's really the self-hating asian girls and bitter racist whites who perpetuate this shit. White Chads and Asian Chads get along fine, actually, because there's an understanding that they're not going to go after each others women.

(2scared2neckmyself)
Just kek at those white guys with asian girlfriends who think they're the shit. Most of them go for Asians because white girls dont want them. Almost every single one of them would be an incel if Asians dont want that green card.

(kwoppa)
Shit its fucking over for Asians, so many of us say 'why would a white Chad date an Asian' shows how shit tier we view our race to be and its how other ethnicities view us as well. Why would a white person with options date us unless they are a physical or mental failure with other whites.

(ricecel)
It's not that whites are the best, it's that chads won't racemix. Why would an Asian chad go after some white bitch when he can get some high quality Asian girl? Racemixing is pretty much reserved for sell out women, BBC tyrones who dip out after fathering children, and pathetic white betas who laud their perceived racial superiority over damaged minorities.

(Djswagfag)
Cope. Asian guys just got fucked genetically, don't blame whites

(ricecel)
What part of us is fucked genetically??? There's billions of East Asians while whites are getting bred out of the gene pool. Blame the Jews if ur bitter.

(Djswagfag)
Dick size and height. Thats because everyone is swarming white countries because they want to live in our societies because they know white societies are the best to live in. And I do blame the jews

(ricecel)
Strong racism. Dick size isn't genetic and Asians are only perceived as short cause our previous generations were warring and poor. No shit white countries are the best to live in when u guys fucked up the rest of the globe via colonialism. White society on the other hand is degenerate af and unsustainable. White society is the reason ur incel. Thanks for blaming the Jews though.

various incels, r/Incels 6 Comments [7/17/2017 1:33:44 PM]
Fundie Index: 2

Quote# 129418

(erikthesmasher)
Female college rommate. What should I do?

So I was looking for a roommate online for the next college year. A female has contacted me and wants to share the apartment with me. As I am an incel it would be extremely frustrating for me to live with a female of my age. I have few options and if I refuse her I might be alone in my room the whole year like I was last year. All I did is study and watch porn as it was the time before I found this subreddit (I was going throught the process of becoming a beta provider, I know I was bluepilled thinker) Also one normie guy contacted me but is not very interested and I have little options. The problem is I can not afford to live alone. Normie or female? What will it be? I found myself in an interesting situation. Never had any contact with a female and now I have to live with her? One more thing I dont know the guy or the female as I have no friends. Just found them online. UPDATE- The female is above average looking. That makes it even worse.

(TheTacoBelly)
There are two scenarios here:

The normie roommate will occasionally bring over femoids to fuck

The femoid roommate will have an unending supply of Chads over, fucking her brains out, which you will undoubtedly be able to hear from your room

Best case scenario is with the femoid, after getting railed by Chads maybe one will reject her and she will be so desperate for male attention that she will let you have sloppy seconds.

(xxxdickfaggotsonxxx)
Imagine you were standing in front of a fire (involuntary celibacy) - immediately next to you is a cup of what is clearly petrol (normalfag), and a bucket of what could be either petrol or water (normalfagette). Until you tip that bucket onto the fire you can't be sure what's inside of it, but you have to choose either the cup or the bucket.

Which one do you go for?

(erikthesmasher)
Do you actually think I could get lucky? Im completely subhuman with acne on my face since childhood. All I would get is a female that is disgusted with me but has to live with me because of financial reasons. Others pay way more for rent than me.

(knajjd11)
NO female has sex/relationships with even normie roommates due to possible awkwardness, let alone incel roommates. Trust me, it won’t happen.

(lollipoopex)
god are you stupid.

I tell you how this will work out. You will interpret her not hating you as a chance to get some secks, then she will feel uncomfortable and get you out of your own flat one way or another, then you will be homeless.

Good luck idiot.

various incels, r/Incels 12 Comments [7/17/2017 1:33:20 PM]
Fundie Index: 2

Quote# 129416

(u/TheDCfan91)

You know it's over when the women in your own race don't want you



(TheDCfan91)
If your own women don't want you, how do you expect foreign women to desire?

Wish I was never Indian.

(EconomicsofSex)
She could sense your personality through your race

(TheDCfan91)
Wonder if she could sense how many showers I took...

(St-Gottard)
Adihka? God knows she's taken at least a hundred dhikas

(fagotonabike)
Currycels have it the worst. It's even worse because most indians actually seem like pretty nice and fun guys.

(LMaoZedong44)
FALSE. Ricecels and southeast asians have it the worst.

Cucked by white sexpats in their own countries

Biggest ricecel country (China) has a majorly lopsided gender ratio (6 guys for every 5 girls)

Women of our own race significantly prefer white men on dating sites against their own race

(MAGA_MAN1237)
Indians would be cucked as well by Sexpats but the women are fuck ugly so they're ignored.

(LMaoZedong44)
At least Indians still have their women though.

(MAGA_MAN1237)
Not in any western country, they all want white dick but white men certainly do not want them so they end up with an Indian betabux which is nothing to brag or get excited about. I guess over in India they do because the only immigration going on is out of the country kek.

I'm Hapacel so I know how it is, I think I prefer being Asian over Indian.

(Just_end_already)
It would be funny if all the White Chads pump and dump her and she regrets it later.

(HomoheroBishii)
Seen this time and time again with Indian and Asian women. Reminds me of how even women under 5 feet tall reject short men. Female hypergamy knows no bounds. Inb4 a normtard thinks I'm saying they should be forced to date their male counterparts, when in reality I just find it hilarious how much they hate their own men.

(WhyNotLayDownAndRot)
fuck this. why couldn't we be born female?

various incels, r/Incels 7 Comments [7/17/2017 1:32:45 PM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 129414

Every woman wants to be seen as different than other girls cause even women know that they suck

Alia_Harkonnen, /r/incels 4 Comments [7/17/2017 11:13:31 AM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 129413

A funny thing about female pyschologists

she has a chad bf, her chad bf was a bully in high school, she attends bully victims, she earns money and she is now traveling around the world with her chad bf

Torujo, /r/incels 7 Comments [7/17/2017 11:13:11 AM]
Fundie Index: 2
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 129407

I saw the most awful thing on the train today

I was sitting behind a 3/10 warpig and her child, and she was texting her husband (presumably) about how much she was looking forward to going back home to him and how much she loved him. She then opened TINDER and started swiping left on all the sub 6's and was matching with a large amount of 7/10s+. At the first stop she looked back at me with disgust and got up to move to a different seat far away from me. Purely because I'm not good to look at. Women are fucking heartless.

ijustwantsomefriendz, /r/incels 11 Comments [7/17/2017 9:49:18 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 129403

Reminder that stemcelling is stupid

Women are not going to want a guy who has his shit together until they are at least 30. Young women just want to party, they don't want a bald past prime stemcel virgin. Mgtow retards seem to think they do though. Criminals are more appealing to women. They want to always be excited and they want to do drugs and drink with low inhibition normies and chads. Nothing gets a woman more dry than a stemcel beta.

iamhopeless256, /r/incels 8 Comments [7/17/2017 9:48:07 AM]
Fundie Index: 2
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 129399

New rule proposal- Ban females who are married or in relationships.

Asking to ban all females seems to be out the question but at least ban they taken ones.

Thinking about it logically why would they come to a sub full of sex and love-starved men other than to tease and troll? Nothing they say is useful or helpful and just comes as condescending and patronising, flaunting their happy relationships and a status (boyfriend/husband) that we'll never get.

Mods, please consider.

dontcryimalreadydead, /r/incels 8 Comments [7/17/2017 5:50:39 AM]
Fundie Index: 2
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 129397

My job is making me sexually frustrated

I can't ignore the women who go there. They're dressed in short shorts or really skin tight jeans. They just love to show off their giant asses. To make things worse, some of them are with guys that are short and ugly. It feels me with rage and anxiety because I wonder if it's all in my head and whether or not I should try. How do I stop myself from thinking about sex ? I tell myself that they're nothing but a walking talking vagina, like a piece of meat but it's not helping. What the fuck do I do

Westcoastincel, /r/incels 11 Comments [7/17/2017 5:50:14 AM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 129395

My mom has recently befriended this middle aged female she met in some fitness class. They've become close friends over the last few months and the woman often comes over to our place, sometimes with her daughter. Her daughter's a slim, bottle blonde Stacy with fake overblown lips and fake tits. She's as vapid and shallow as you'd expect. Actually she's pretty average looking and not my type at all but I'd still fuck her. Whenever she's forced to talk to me you can see the discomfort and disgust in her eyes. I've tried being nice to her but she just brushes me off coldly. I don't know what I've done to deserve this treatment (other than being subhuman) and hate sitting at the dinner table with her. One time I held the door open for her like an absolute cuck and she didn't say thank you. She didn't even glance in my direction. I'm just some dog shit she steps over.

My mom constantly tries to hook me up with Stacy. She always tells me that this girl "likes" me (lies) and that we should go on dates. This Stacy would never want to touch me, let alone go on a date with me. She's completely offended by my existence and spends most of her time on Tinder. Even her mom has made some cringy jokes about us going out and "getting to know each other''. If you guys could see the look of disgust on Stacy's face. Females just shudder at the thought of interacting with non-Chad males.

incellius, r/incels 11 Comments [7/17/2017 4:56:06 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129383

"[Women] are “at increased risk of gender-based violence, especially domestic violence and rape but also forced marriage at earlier ages” due to their increased dependence on men for protection and support…"

So now when men provide women with protection and support they are suspected rapists, child molesters and batterers? Are these strange, foreign women more trustworthy than Haitian girls’ fathers, brothers and grandfathers? I try to refrain from inserting my opinion when I am writing these news pieces, but Ms. Enarson is making one of the most offensive insinuations possible with the above statement, and she is dead wrong. It is matriarchal societies where women cannot rely on men for support in which women face the most danger.

[Comment by same fundie, also when you suddenly adopt an extremely Rousseauan anarchist view on human nature because the alternative means acknowledge some men do bad things sometimes]

Geez, Ella, you just make my point:

" The police are in disarray, the gaols are broken and empty, there is no law and one way to reassert power, to demonstrate control, is to violate another persons body."

Is that your personal take on it? You really think that men are just waiting for chaos so they can go on a rape spree?

You simply make it clear why I am putting so much work into this site. You feminists need to be fought as hard as the tyrants of the last century, because you have a twisted, destructive and supremacist ideology — an ideology of death.

It is time for another Amazonomachy.

W. F. Price, The Spearhead 3 Comments [7/16/2017 11:36:09 PM]
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Quote# 129381

[When you actually agree with the feminist argument that domestic violence is political and about control]

A pernicious point of difference amongst men concerned with men’s issues is the debate over violence, and how to approach it. There are those who point out that women are as violent as men in interpersonal relationships, those who scoff at this idea, and even some who condone some degree of violence within relationships (these sorts exist on both sides, of course).

The problem with the violence debate is that the issue of violence has been so thoroughly politicized that we have lost sight of what the argument is really about. Violence is force. Human violence is the application of force to people against their will. It pervades our society, and is how we – Americans in particular – keep people in line. The obsession with violence against women – a considerably smaller problem than violence against men – on the part of feminists is all about “who? whom?” (kto? kogo?).

We can’t honestly discuss violence without acknowledging that violence is a reality that overshadows our lives. Every time we see a cop with a gun, a patrol car, a prison and even a courthouse we are reminded that we are subject to the state’s violence if we incur its wrath.

Violence is the force of the law. Without it, our rules would have no teeth. Authority without force is no authority at all; power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Anyone immune to violence would be above the law, which is why one of the founding principles of the American republic was that the use of force against the state is justified when it sets itself above the law and in opposition to The People.

If we are to follow the logic of the law, therefore, we must accept that we are all subject to violence if we behave in certain ways. Those who don’t accept this are by definition lawless. For example, if I were to steal from my neighbor, I would expect to be arrested and jailed if caught. To assume otherwise would be a sort of civic hubris.

However, there are certain classes of people for whom different rules exist. Children, for example, are subject to a different standard where force is concerned. To be sure, they are not immune to it, but in general violence against children is of a far milder variety, and usually involves little more than being shut in a room for a spell or dragged into the principal’s office. Even when the state deals with children different rules apply. A child who kills, for example, will generally not face the same sentence as an adult. Furthermore, the state delegates a certain amount of force to adults in the child’s life. Rather than have the police deal with every infraction, parents and other adult authorities are expected to use force as they deem appropriate.

The logic behind this is that children are not “equal” to adults. They have neither the faculties, judgment nor physical capability. They are therefore not deemed to be fully participating citizens, but rather “in custody,” which means that they are under the authority of adults.

Likewise, women are formally held to a different legal standard. In times past, they were legally in the custody of one man or another, and under his authority. Although emancipated women have always existed, they were rare, and I would argue that they still are, because the only serious attempt to make women equal citizens under the law failed spectacularly within a span of only about a decade (1970s).

In the old days, when women were considered to be wards of men, society expected men’s superior force to keep those in their family in line in much the same manner that the law uses superior force to keep men in line. This isn’t to say that force was always applied, but rather that it existed and could be applied, just as a bailiff exists in every courtroom. There was a chain of command that went like this:

Men are subject to the law

Women to men

Children to women

Each relationship was backed by some degree of force. As one goes down the scale, the amount of force deemed appropriate was less severe, but probably more frequent. For example, an arrest and a stint in prison is quite rare, affecting only a small fraction of the male population, but it is a severe punishment. A domestic squabble involving some use of force was also rare, probably affecting a minority of couples, but more common than incarceration (and still is if DV stats are to be believed) and inconsequential compared to prison time. Finally, children were punished relatively frequently, but mildly.

The old system was simple, but effective. It lasted up to about the 1970s, when domestic violence became politicized. We could point directly to feminism as the cause of the old system’s breakdown, but feminism was actually more of a symptom of other changes than the cause. Men’s authority in the home had been breaking down for over a century as urbanization and industrialization proliferated throughout the West. Women found themselves alone as the sole authority of the family when their husbands went to work at the factory or office. Many women also worked under an authority other than their husband or father. It no longer made sense to delegate authority over women only to one man in their lives. The private and public sector found themselves managing women as well as men, and as their authority over them increased, that of their husbands declined.

There was a reversal of this in the idealized 1950s, when a deep social conservatism, partly a result of the return of millions of citizen soldiers who were empowered by their victory, characterized society, but the relentless growth of capitalism guaranteed that this couldn’t last. The economy was growing, and more workers were needed. Women gradually returned to the workforce starting in the 1960s, and the process started again where it had left off.

Since then, husbands (and fathers) have lost essentially all of their old authority over women. However, this is not to say that nobody has any authority over them, but rather that it has passed into other hands. Today, there is still a struggle over who has claim to the women of our society, but it is between the private and public sector. Both presidential candidates understand this quite well, which is why, in pandering to women, one of them is promising state support and the other good jobs. It is almost amusing to see the public and private sector wooing America’s women like a couple of suitors singing to an undecided girl.

Both the public and private sector exert most control over women through economic incentives and punishments rather than physical force. A company keeps its females in line by threatening them with loss of income if they misbehave, which is called abuse or “contempt of court” when husbands do it. The public sector retains the option of using physical force against women – again, called abuse when husbands do it – and also provides (or withdraws) various goodies through bureaucracies.

The public and private sector have come to wield far more authority over women than the men in their lives. Men are ordered to provide for women in their lives no matter what, and never to use physical force on them, but the state follows neither mandate, and the private sector only the latter (which could be a powerful selling point for the Republicans). Given that very few single women make a living from their own businesses, most being dependent on the state or a job in the private sector, the proportion of women who could be said to be truly emancipated remains as low as ever.

However, despite the state and private sector’s current authority over women, a different standard is still applied. Not only a different standard as far as the use of force, but in terms of provision as well. Equality of men and women is widely assumed to be enshrined in law, but this is not the case. The Equal Rights Amendment did not pass back in the 1970s, largely because women didn’t want it in its unadulterated form, and considering the Hayden rider there was nothing equal about it. For some interesting background on the fight to pass the ERA, see how, according to suffragette Alice Paul, NOW (the National Organization of Women) essentially killed it by supporting the Hayden rider.

The full text of the Equal Rights Amendment, originally written by Alice Paul, is as follows:

Section 1. Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.
Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
Section 3. This amendment shall take effect two years after the date of ratification.

However, the Hayden rider was added in the 1950s:

The provisions of this article shall not be construed to impair any rights, benefits, or exemptions now or hereafter conferred by law upon persons of the female sex.

This rendered it self-contradictory and not at all different from the status quo, yet it is the version supported by feminist groups, and that is why the amendment never passed. It was too much of a sham to make it through the full process of ratification.

So, according to US law women are still a special class of citizens, like children, who are afforded protections and benefits not extended to men. They are exempt from the draft, they are given special accommodation at work and school, their activities are subsidized at men’s expense (e.g. Title IX), and far more social welfare is directed their way.

Although the myth of women’s self-sufficiency and independence is widely repeated, it is ignored in practice, and contradicted by law.

Because women are acknowledged both by the law and custom to be a special class, and not fully equal citizens, it follows that others are responsible for ensuring that they are taken care of and kept in line. Because the state has arrogated the responsibility of managing women to itself and taken family choices entirely out of the hands of fathers and husbands, male citizens’ responsibilities toward women’s provision and care should likewise be removed.

If we are to remove individual male authority over the women in his life and replace it with collective authority over women, then we should remove individual male responsibility and replace it with collective responsibility over women, and be quite honest about it.

The same would apply to children, of course. Would it be just for the state to remove a child and terminate parental custody and then present a bill for doing so? [Actually, because the overwhelming majority of CPS removals are from single mothers, the child will frequently be placed with a foster family without any input from the father, and then he will be forced to pay child support directly to the state.]

One could view abolishing male authority over women as a liberating trend, because collectively managing females would spread the burden over a greater number of taxpayers, including women themselves, freeing men from so much individual responsibility. And rather than having to control women ourselves, we could allow the police and private business to handle them. The problem with this is that the state is running into problems with expense, and the private sector is starting to face the same issues itself. Because women are a special, legally-protected class with more needs and associated expenses, we simply cannot treat them as men. This is why Barack Obama and a number of other leftist politicians desperately want to collectivize birth control: because single mothers and their needs have grown into such an enormous drain on treasuries.

And here is where the issue of force and violence is bound to come up again. So far, the state has managed to use force mainly against fathers in a bid to maintain the politically convenient facade of female equality while balancing the budget. But it has reached the point of diminishing return. The cash cow that was middle-class American men is starting to dry up for a number of reasons. Young men are marrying at much lower rates, they make less relative to their parents, and a greater proportion of them is now working class or underclass than was the case a generation ago. The marriage issue is important because public expenses for single mothers are considerably higher than for those who live with a man. Even onerous child support guidelines don’t come close to making up the difference, and at this point increasing child support collection will simply start to eat away at tax revenue.

So, eventually the state will have to begin to turn the screws on women, and when the state sees people as a “problem” the treatment they get tends to be very unpleasant. People who doubt this need only look at Communist China’s birth control policy. Single mothers were routinely sterilized or had abortions forced on them. Even married women who didn’t control their fertility were subjected to these measures. Women who had more than one child lost state support, and were forced into deep poverty, the likes of which most American women cannot comprehend. If that isn’t violence against women, what is?

Many Americans tend to think of the leftists who advocate more state involvement in people’s lives as touchy-feely types who would never support such measures. They couldn’t be any more wrong. Leftist American professors in China studies openly endorse China’s birth control measures. The honest ones will tell you that they’d support doing the same here.

I doubt we’ll need to take as drastic steps as China in the foreseeable future, but changes will be made. Control over reproduction – the feminist holy grail – may be handed over to the state in our lifetime and taken away from certain classes of women (e.g. those on welfare). We could see women being forced to take birth control, and punished when they fail to do so. Women who defy the state on these matters will be dealt with forcefully — just like men. Women could well be coerced into being economically productive, as fathers are today. Single mothers who refuse to work could face some punishment, and as men’s wages decline even farther relative to women’s, married women will likely no longer have the choice to stay home and care for their children themselves. Furthermore, because men no longer have authority over their wives, they have none over their children, either. Ultimately, the state will have the final word on children, and tough luck if mothers disagree.

The Violence Against Women dialog was born out of a desire for throwing off the authority of husbands, but it doesn’t seem the feminists considered that women would only end up with another master. And this time it is a master that sees them as only one of millions — a mere number in a database. Also, a much stronger master that will not tolerate any deviation, and will apply force impersonally without any sentimental considerations.

“Violence” against women will therefore never cease, but only be applied by a different force. In their naïvete, feminists thought they could throw off the yoke of patriarchy and be completely free. They imagined they would achieve a sort of blissful anarchy, like all utopian fantasies, and answer to none but themselves. However, they eventually find that the office manager, the case-worker, the policeman and the magistrate are less forgiving and caring than the typical husband, and far less concerned about protecting them.

True independence can only be gained in the absence of want. Women in general will always be needier than men, and therefore will always require more oversight. To be dependent is to be under another’s control, and to be under control is to be subject to some degree of force. Practically speaking, the party responsible for the subject is the one who should have legitimate authority.

The way we need to frame the debate concerning violence against women is in recognizing that the argument is centered entirely on who has authority and the right to wield it — not on the naturally repellent idea of a man brutally assaulting a woman. If we have no authority over women, then we cannot be justly held responsible for them either. Society cannot have it both ways. If the state insists on maintaining both women’s dependent status and a monopoly on authority, then individual men should have no obligations to women whatsoever. I’m not sure that will ever be feasible, but eventually we will have to make a choice along those lines.

W. F. Price, The Spearhead 6 Comments [7/16/2017 11:35:25 PM]
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Quote# 129380

In all likelihood, the death toll will be in the thousands, but as grim as that sounds, it could have been far, far worse. Tragedies are still unfolding in Japan, but the people of the island nation are, for the most part, taking care of their own. American search and rescue teams are helping search for survivors, and US Navy helicopters are airlifting food to stranded Japanese civilians, but the bulk of the rescue effort is being undertaken by Japanese. Overwhelmingly, of course, Japanese men. And the women are not complaining. Even the feminists in the US are eerily silent on this score.

When you have a society in which men have a vested interest in protecting and taking care of the whole, and they are allowed to do so, they tend to do a good job. They display selflessness and their efforts are characterized by cooperation and teamwork; often by heroism as well. On the whole, everyone does better. There is no better example of this than the comparison between matriarchal Haiti’s and patriarchal Japan’s respective responses to natural disaster. Where in Haiti the women are still living in open encampments well over a year after the quake, Japanese women are already sheltered, which is necessary, because it is still cold in northern Japan this time of year. There is no doubt that some displaced Japanese will still be facing significant hardship a year from now, but despite Japan’s crowded land vanishingly few will be without a roof over their head, and none will go hungry.

As for the Japanese men, they have it far better than their Haitian counterparts as well. There are no foreign troops pointing guns at them and denying them food, they are taken care of and respected if old, and given jobs and a place in society if young. Perhaps most importantly, They are given the opportunity to do what men often do best — they are allowed to take care of their families and communities.

As we observe these events and their aftermath, they provide us with valuable lessons about nature of things, and give us an opportunity to ask ourselves what kind of a society we want to live in. Do we want, as the feminists would have it, to be helpless, disease infested, homeless and starving if we face hardship, or do we want to have the ability to come together and pull ourselves up from the rubble? For the sane people of the world, the choice is clear.

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[Comments by the same fundie]

These things you list all derive exactly from the matriarchal nature of Haitian society. Or perhaps if Haitian women hadn’t been “oppressed” they would have built sound structures and prepared for emergencies — just like the Japanese, whose women surely are mainly responsible for Japan’s engineering, architecture and emergency response…

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Matriarchal societies are characterized by the presence of a few dominant men at the top who command gangs of dispossessed, disaffected young men who grew up not knowing daddy.

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[When you know less about Japanese metalworking than your average weeb but still pretend to be a history buff on the internet]

My take on the race thing:

Of course races are not all the same. But it wasn’t my intention to make an issue out of race in the article.

However, if you look at history, it’s pretty obvious that more patriarchal societies are the ones that became increasingly safe, orderly and technologically advanced. Was Japan advanced 2,000 years ago? Not really. It wasn’t until they adopted elements of Chinese philosophy (e.g. Confucianism) that Japan began to take on its modern characteristics. Before that it was matrifocal (good point Jack made) and characterized by tribal warfare the same as Africa or Haiti. So was Northern Europe, for that matter, before the Romans introduced civilization.

Sooo… Whether or not Haitian people could be immediately turned into Japanese is not the issue. The thing is, however, that by thrusting feminism on them nobody is doing them any favors at all. On the other hand, if given some workable patriarchal civilized set of rules, in time the place would improve instead of continuing along as a mess. I think Africa and African-derived societies are a great place to look at how patriarchal/matrifocal societies play out.

Patriarchal organization of society works on two different timeframes: the present and the future. It definitely makes improvements in the present, but the effects over generations can add up quite a bit as well. We have to keep in mind that the Japanese were living in the stone age just a little over 2,000 years ago — even the natives of the far-flung British Isles had been working metal for thousands of years by then.

Here’s a lecture describingthe transition of Japan from matrilinear/matrifocal society to strict patriarchy over the years, largely under the influence of foreign ideas such as Confucianism and Buddhism (yes, Buddhism is male-dominated like Abrahamic religions).

W. F. Price, The Spearhead 2 Comments [7/16/2017 11:35:02 PM]
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Quote# 129379

However, it seems that this is a problem that goes beyond the formal business world, and has pervaded society in general to the extent that many – perhaps most – people think the government (i.e. taxpayers) should bear the costs of their life choices.

The example most in the news today is the demands for subsidized abortion and birth control that have become a feature of the presidential campaign. You’d think that our country’s women’s top priority is getting the government to subsidize their sexual choices, whatever they may be.

Following what I was getting at yesterday, sex has always incurred some expense. Like it or not, men pay for sex (or its results) in one way or another. Traditionally, you’d pay by getting married and taking the woman on as your responsibility, or you’d pay a fee for a one-off (prostitution). If you took it without paying for it, as in adultery, rape or fornication, it was a crime, or something like that. If we were honest with ourselves, we’d have to admit that it still is a quasi crime; as the old system has been replaced with something significantly more confusing, sex crime laws have become far broader in scope and can be applied to any number of situations (such as prostitution) that used to be considered beyond the purview of the law.

Additionally, despite false promises of free sex from the 60s and 70s, when feminists used to get support from men by promising we’d all be getting laid for free when we had “equality,” it turned out that sex still had a lot of associated costs. Pregnancy, of course, is one of the biggest. At first, we socialized that, but then welfare reform threw the costs entirely onto fathers (not mothers, mind you). Combined with welfare reform, we had VAWA, which significantly increased the costs of marriage and cohabitation by legally handicapping men in relationships with women. So great strides have been made in restoring a heavy cost to sex, but this hasn’t been enough, because women have grown accustomed to sexual license with whomsoever they please, and the men they generally like either a) don’t have the money, or b) are desirable enough to not have to pay.

Although the latter is a bit counterintuitive (wouldn’t women desire men who pay for them?), it’s a function of female sexual psychology. Women generally use sex to ensnare the man they want (and they typically have high expectations), and then they begin to draw resources from him. It works in simple societies where people hold each other to account, but in more cosmopolitan settings it breaks down for a couple reasons. First, there are more than enough women to go around, so it’s easy to drop one and pick up another, and secondly there are other means for women to gain resources, such as jobs and welfare, and as long as those resources exist men who have no trouble procuring sex see no reason to provide for women, even if they have the means. And who can blame them? Although it’s a social catastrophe, it’s a perfectly reasonable attitude from a personal perspective, because, after all, the individual man didn’t create this mess in the first place.

Here’s a scenario:

A handsome young investment banker making six figures can go out to a bar and take his pick. Let’s call him Mark. Mark picks up a young woman named Amanda, she goes home with him, they have sex, and he enters her number into his phone, leaving her only a promise to call again. Perhaps he intends to do so, and perhaps not. Whatever the case, he feels no guilt or responsibility, because the woman, who happens to be in law school, also has a job at a nonprofit, and makes more hourly than the average young man in their city, so he doesn’t need to provide her with anything. Additionally, if there’s an “accident” (but in all likelihood there won’t be, because Mark is careful about these things) there’s a Planned Parenthood down the street. Not only does it provide her with birth control, but it will treat STDs and abort unwanted children resulting from her nightly excursions.

Sounds fine, so what’s the problem?

The problem is that this young woman, despite being a student and having a job, is essentially on the dole. Her nonprofit is funded in large part by state and federal grants, as is her tuition. Her sexual care at Planned Parenthood is also funded largely by taxpayers. Her life, including her sex life, is paid for by the average working Joe, but she isn’t sleeping with Joe — oh no: she’s sleeping with Mark, a guy who easily could afford to feed, clothe and insure her, but who doesn’t have to because of Joe. Although it isn’t really his fault, Mark is a freeloader.

Joe, for his part, makes do with monthly trysts with a mid-level prostitute, which he can barely afford after taxes and child support. Joe, who is an HVAC repairman, is paying for all the Amandas in his state, his ex-wife Lisa, and his hooker, who is named Elena.

Interestingly enough, Joe and Amanda have met. Joe was called in to fix the AC in her nonprofit’s office on a sweltering summer day. Because the AC was broken and the atmosphere was stifling, Amanda had unbuttoned the top part of her blouse, and poor Joe couldn’t help but look at her breasts. Amanda was furious, and called his supervisor, who apologized profusely, and when Joe got back from the job he caught hell. Fortunately, he wasn’t fired, but it sure was humiliating. Not as bad as having to deal with his ex-wife’s lawyer, but close…

I suppose we could say “life’s unfair,” and that would be entirely true. But should we make it that unfair? Should we set things up so that Joe has to support Amanda as much as Mark?

According to our nation’s single women, the answer is a resounding “YES!” Married women, however, have a significantly different take on it, for obvious reasons.

I’m not sure single women are consciously aware of how selfish they are being. I think they fully intend to find some man to support them, and think the only way they can do that is to have unfettered sex with all the Marks of the world they can get their hands on in the hopes that one of them will some day give in and marry her. The problem is that it’s a trend that reinforces itself; the more Amandas we have giving it away for free the less likely any given Mark will be to actually support any of them. The competition will escalate, desirable men will become even more reluctant to give women any financial support, and the screeching for more entitlements for single women will grow louder and louder.

It is exactly this trend that has led to the bizarre, unprecedented fixation on women’s sexual entitlements in our current election cycle. When you socialize the costs of a private activity – and sex is about as private as it gets – you create an unnatural imbalance that rewards the few at the expense of the many. You also run the risk of inflating costs to unsustainable levels, and I think that’s something young women ought to think hard about. But they won’t.

W. F. Price, The Spearhead 2 Comments [7/16/2017 11:34:40 PM]
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Quote# 129378

Things are definitely changing. Young men are not the blinded fools they were just a couple decades ago. The triumph of feminism has blown away the old hypocrisies and, ironically, left women more on their own than ever. It’s encouraging to see young men’s growing awareness, but it would be even better if young women finally saw what a disaster feminism is turning out to be for them, personally.

I think they will. We may yet see young women cursing the feminists who yanked them out of their homes and away from their children and put them to work in the salt mines of corporate and government bureaucracy.

W. F. Price, The Spearhead 2 Comments [7/16/2017 11:34:24 PM]
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