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Quote# 5926

Contraception is wrong! That is taking a future unborn baby's life into your own hands, or you and your spouse's hands. Nope..sorry, but you aren't the Almighty One and that's NOT your job. Not to sound rude, but it wouldn't kill today's society to learn self-discipline!!!

sing Him a song, gp4teens.com Discussion Boards 23 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 8

Quote# 5927

<U>Speciation is not evolution.</U> Proving speciation does not prove evolution... humans are not primates but area specific and special creation by God... All I ask is to have you follow the Scientific method and evolve me something. Anything!!! <U>Observe something evolve from one species to another</U>, test to seeif it really happened and retest that evolutionary feat enough times to verify it.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 7 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 4

Quote# 5929

All I have to deny is the magic wand you try to wave over speciation to get it to equal evolution. Because that is all you have. The problem is your faith in the lie of evolution is not strong enough to admit the truth. If it was you could admit the obvious truth and it wouldn't effect your devotion to your religously held faith.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 9 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 5930

All it would take to end this argument is for them to ADMIT that it takes faith to believe you can ever get a NON DOG from a dog and we could go our separate ways...

Angyl, Rapture Ready 6 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 2

Quote# 5931

[Replying to 'Show me the scripture where God defines primate?']'Primate' is a man-made term that man uses incorrectly to classify primates and man together. I cannot shgow you scripture on primates because there is none because God does not ever classify man and animals together... again it is a label man improperly uses to label us the same as animals. This is false, we are not... Besides, calling man and ape both primates very much IS classifying them as relatives of evolution which is counter to God's Word.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 5 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5932

[Replying to 'Humans are primates by definition']That's the problem...humans thinking their definition... This goes beyond simple categorization to just about everything science does. Some scientist saying I am a primate 'by definition' does not automatically make it fact. It's still an opinion until that scientist can claim to know absolutely everything about every difference and nuance in both primates and humans.

Angyl, Rapture Ready 8 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 5933

The reason why you can not LUMP humans and apes together in the same general category like that... A soul. Tis why we are not primates... We are above ALL these things in a way far more grand than you can likely comprehend... So there's your answer. Basically it boils down to yes, I have hands like an ape, am a mammal (another one of MAN's definitions) like an ape, and have a 'large' brain like an ape. But an ape is an animal along with every other primate... Debase yourself into the same category as chimps if you want. When I go to the zoo I'll be happy to say hello to your relatives for you.

Angyl, Rapture Ready 12 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 5934

Because it [primate] incorrectly classifies man in the same category as a monkey. If I made a definition that put man and dump trucks in the same ancestorial line doesn't mean that it'd be right... Just as humans are still Dump Trucks, right? Mobile, have motors, two round things on thier face and one input mechanism for air, both have gas and are full of garbage. Yep, humans are by definition, dump trucks.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 8 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 4

Quote# 5935

God shows that we and primates are not the same, period... But we're going right back to why I normally do not respond to you. You simply ignore what is said and insist on what you continue to preach.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 7 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 2

Quote# 5936

Ok, then by definition we are also bananas since our DNA matches up better than 50% and dump trucks for the reasons I stated earlier. At best all you are describing is how stupid such a classification [primates] is.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 6 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5937

Is my example silly? Yes. But no sillier than trying to classify humans and bananas in any similar group or humans and apes. We are special creations. Primates were created by God's word, we were created by God's hand's.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 3 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 2

Quote# 5938

Excellently put!! Don't you people see it?... I'm sure you'll want to try to deny that's the truth but your words would be a lie and I'm sure you know it. We're called primates and animals by scientists as a part of the evolution ploy and scheme. It is debasing the way it is meant, degrading, and completely unagreeable... Once again, we AGREE that there are similarities between us and apes. Doesn't give you the right to call me an animal, though anymore than the similarities between me and a garbage truck give you the right to call me a car.

Angyl, Rapture Ready 10 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 4

Quote# 5939

When God made them [stars]... The light from them...was HERE already. God 'stretched out the heavens.' Tell me...what would be the point of even putting that phrase in the Bible if not to explain these things to scientists thousands of years later???

Angyl, Rapture Ready 14 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5940

Where I intrepret what God says, yes, I most definately can be wrong. However, I don't intrepret Gen 1 and 2. I read it exactly as God has said. If it is wrong, it is God who is wrong.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 15 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5941

Oh my heck, I cannot believe you posted this same garbage yet again!!! For the umpteenth time, I AGREE there was a solid dome of water [over the Earth, as the Bible and ancient Babylonian cosmology describes]... Get it?

Rom831, Rapture Ready 8 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5942

[Replying to 'So you really believe there was a solid dome!!!']duh... Bible doesn't say how thick it was and what kept it from falling could have been the simple weighlessness of space, ya know?

Angyl, Rapture Ready 10 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5943

The problem is that this [pre-Genesis creation myths] is wrong. The Genesis 'story' was around from when God created the earth. It was there from the very first man created ever, Adam. Nothing predates it because there was nothing before it.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 8 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 5944

Just tell this person that one of you is right and one is wrong. You can't both be right. Either God is real or He isn't. You who believe have nothing to lose but the unbeliever has everything to lose if they are wrong.

Dianne Donnelly, Rapture Ready 7 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5945

Diane, those are wise words. I will remember them next time. Thanks!

faith4ever, Rapture Ready 10 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: -15

Quote# 5946

How is it [creating a seemingly old universe] a deception when God tells us He did it? A deception would be to do something and ty to decieve someone into believing you did it another way. But God tells us exactly how and when He did it. There is only a 'deception' if you refuse to listen to God's Word and then blame Him for it.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 3 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 5947

I have the word of God almighty, creator of everything, who is incapable of telling anything other than the truth. And before you once again rehash the same argument, yes I believe there was a solid dome of water over the earth...

Rom831, Rapture Ready 12 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 5948

But you choose to use your brains while ignoring the word of the smartest being ever who so happens to be the one who did all the things you are trying to figure out. You instead prefer to rely on the wisdom of this world and ignore true wisdom in order to build your belifes upon.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 7 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 5949

[Replying to 'you know absolutely nothing about what causes a supernova']Apparently we know more than you. GOD causes them. If it weren't for God, you would have none. I dare to say that what the process God uses to do this is so far more complex than you or any group of your scientists can contemplate that your pitiful 'knowledge' on the subject is humorous at best.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 4 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5950

Oh really? Lets compare knowledge. Take your IQ and add it to the IQ of every one of your sources... compared to God, you know just short of nothing which is also what we know compared to God. Yet you have the gall to claim to know better than He in how supernovae come about and how we are able to see them. And you wonder why we don't listen?

Rom831, Rapture Ready 19 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 5951

[Replying to a theistic evolutionist Christian saying 'you are using the Bible to "prove" the Bible']Scripture is God's Word. Deal with it... You have progressed beyond believing God. That is called herasy. Once again, you can choose to believe the wisdom of the world, but God Himself calls that foolish. You may choose to be foolish, myself, I'll submit to true wisdom.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 4 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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