Quote# 29022

There are no doubts that Earth does not orbit the sun.
The hoax was created by the satanists to destroy the credibility of the Bible.
There are no doubts that Earth does not rotate (1). So there's only one question left:
How fast is the sun REALLY moving around the Earth?
Or in other words: what is the real distance from Earth to the Sun?

Answer: A fraction of what you were told in school...
A sun which size is a fraction of what you were told in school...

1 + 1 = 2
End Times is when some of those 1 + 1 equations that were previously hidden finally surface.
Solar eclipses (2) are not even in that category. They have been around from the beginning ...

Notes:
(1) Reminder: to explain "scientifically" their hoaxes, the satanists use two types of "magic": unspecified equations for observable facts (examples: evolution, earth's rotation) or equations for dummies for the rest (example: theory of relativitiy).

(2) Here the reply from one poster in original thread, to illustrate this:
Simple equation:
Sun Moon and Earth in a straight line.
Sun emits light, Moon blocks light, creates shadow on Earth.
Take the diameter of the Moons shadow, and distance of Moon from Earth.
I dont think the sun is as big as the solar scale says it is.

Matt Marriot, Gold and Silver Forum 43 Comments [9/15/2007 11:15:45 PM]
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Quote# 29015

"Calling a Christian a Fundie is equivalent - some argue worse - to calling an African American a Nigger."

Jerry Bergman, Rae.org (The post is less than one-quarter through the paper) 57 Comments [9/15/2007 11:12:17 PM]
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Submitted By: Ryan Covington

Quote# 28994

The end is CREATED by the means. Evolution, with its “might makes right” fosters meanness. When it takes over in men’s minds no more of the: “There but for the grace of God go I.” Instead it’s: “Survival of the ‘fittest’ and slavery and death for the weak.” Pain, suffering, and death are exemplified as purifying and building up, when they actually pull down.

Editor, CSE blogs 31 Comments [9/15/2007 10:33:07 PM]
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Quote# 29003

I wonder if this is one of the 'environmental factors' that leads to children growing up to be homosexual?

If females are constantly portrayed as superiour, and males as brutish stupid and violent...are we surprised that a lot of young girls grow up to be lesbian women?
If they are taught not to like, respect or admire males...how can they?

If females are constantly portrayed as hostile and condescending to males, and an immense legal danger to interact with ...are we surprised that a lot of young boys grow up to be homosexual?
With males getting shafted in any sexual-crime case, custody case or divorce case...prone to presumption-of-guilt if a female accuses them of any sexual crime, is it surprising some males don't see the appeal of a relationship with a woman? If every show and sitcom and opera episode pumps out anti-male-stereotypes, is it any surprise that males expect real-world females to treat them like the women in sitcoms treat their husbands?


ristin, RHJunior's Journal 39 Comments [9/15/2007 10:29:31 PM]
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Quote# 29008


My pastor says all scientists are under the influence of Satan to some degree. Science has never produced anything good for people, it has brought us only sorrow.

Go to a Baptist church and you will be happy again. And pure.


Fisher, Yahoo! Answers 71 Comments [9/15/2007 10:22:57 PM]
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Quote# 29024

(If all knowledge and wisdom is from God, then how can atheists make scientific discoveries?)

Because they have wisely chosen to refrain from cursing GOD. they have not died outright before making scientific discoveries.

Dead people don't make scientific discoveries.

Truth is simple.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD, alt.atheism 42 Comments [9/15/2007 9:43:28 PM]
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Submitted By: Patashu

Quote# 28992

Suppose there is a law that allows to kill any child if parents have financial problems . And you know that most of the children ( more than 99 % ) in their later lives become enemies of God - will disregard the Bible and salavtion to live for ever ? Would you not take an adavantage out of love for the child to have him living for ever with you in the Paradise or let the child live on and later on die for ever

OBVES, jehovahs-witness.com 48 Comments [9/15/2007 12:09:44 PM]
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Submitted By: Derek

Quote# 28993

It is sad that many in the ministry are killing the little toddlers in the Lord Jesus Christ with the new bibles. They (the new bibles) are one of the major reasons that is causing the great falling away in these last days.

I tell people who give or sell new bibles to “baby” believers are like those natural parents who are giving their babies pop, tea or whatever to drink instead of the pure milk (of the word).

The new bibles are helping in big ways to cause the great falling away. When Satan poisons your food (the word of God) then he will mess you up spiritually speaking. In the natural, when we feed on junk food, we are slowly killing ourselves. In the spiritual, when we are feeding on junk food (new bibles) we are slowly killing ourselves...

I was teaching out of 6 or 7 different bibles years ago and since I only study and memorize the KJV, I was seeing all kinds of contradictions. I was getting close to quitting the faith, I was confused to say the least.

Ekkman, CSE blogs 44 Comments [9/15/2007 10:52:28 AM]
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Quote# 28991

The Public Health movement, which originated in revolutionary France (the ancestor of Communist and Nazi revolution in our own times), was concocted as a way of promoting nihilist revolution in the guise of medical science. Its object is to exploit fear of disease to manipulate people into a spiritual trap, one that causes its victims to repudiate G-d's sovereignty and become psychologically twisted into revolutionaries.
The notion that Public Health measures are the only protection against disease is a direct assault on G-d. It is bait intended to lure the population into an upside-down anti-morality. In reality, we need not fear epidemics of infectious disease, TB or otherwise. The world is already changing in preparation for the imminent Messianic Era, and improving health is one of the signs of the times.
Rather, we should only fear G-d's wrath against Amalek and the Public Health movement, and seek to fulfill the Creator's Will that we repudiate and annihilate this evil from our midst. This means exposing, neutralizing, and legally abolishing the Public Health movement, including dismantling all of its agencies and uprooting and prosecuting its advocates. TB isn't a real problem, but TB treatments are.


Bi-Weekly Newsletter of Judaic Theocracy, Noahide 37 Comments [9/15/2007 7:54:32 AM]
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Quote# 28971

It is known that every religion opposes homosexuality, even Islam and Hinduism. Even the Satanic Bible condemns it not just because it gives free will (which is against Satanic teachings) but it will disrupt the growth of the Satanic race, which is the same reason why the devil's bible supports the idea of women as property. So with this fact there's not much a difference between Satanism and the so-called "Christian" fundentalism which is not true Christianity.

one voice, FSTDT Comments 59 Comments [9/14/2007 11:43:17 PM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 28981

"Trot, here is something to remember. 9/11 happened. You may not think that it did, but you'd be wrong.

As far as God making man out of the dust of the earth, and Eve made from Adam's rib; it is all true. Here is how we know this.

JESUS CHRIST ROSE FROM THE DEAD!

Since that happened, then everything in the Word happened.

If you or anyone else does not believe that Jesus rose from the dead, then what you are saying is you don't believe the testimonies of the witnesses that saw Him rise from the dead.

Here is the problem. You are denying credible witnesses. It is just like me saying, "I don't believe that the Twin Towers were blown up by terrorists." All the footage is a lie. I was not there and I did not see any terrorist do anything wrong. If the footage was even real, then I believe that it was the Canadian government that sent agents to fly those planes into those buildings.

How do we really know that there were 'terrorists' on those planes? I wasn't there, I didn't see any terrorists do anything that day. The flight manifests could have been doctored very easily. The film itself could have been doctored. I wasn't there, so how do I really know that the Twin Towers were destroyed by terrorists??? How?

You say you have 'Eye witnesses'? Jesus had thousands of 'Eye witnesses' to His miracles!!!

You are calling the 'Eye witnesses' of Jesus' miracles liars. I can call the so called 9/11 wittinesses liars. How do I really know that someone who says that they were there, was really there? I'm going to just believe JoJo the street peddler who says he was selling watches two buildings away from the Towers when they went up in smoke?

See, it is real easy to smear doubt on anything.

You say the Bible has no proof? You have the same "proof" of 9/11 as Christ has for raising from the dead. Witnesses! Real people who say something and are telling of what they saw.

Now remember this: I HAVE YET TO SEE ANY 9/11 WITNESS BEING CRUCIFIED UPSIDE DOWN FOR THEIR TESTIMONIES (remember St. Peter?).

You have to base your disbelief on FAITH that you believe that they are liars!!!!

Face it my friend, JESUS CHRIST rose from the dead and that is a wonderful thing!!!

SOLI DEO GLORIA!!!"



ShieldOFaith, foru.ms 51 Comments [9/14/2007 11:39:44 PM]
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Quote# 28982

[Ever the bigot, Believe It! comments on Muslims.]
I will now give my solutions to this.

No more Muslims immigrants in this country for an indefinite amount of time.
No more mosques built in this country.
Tear down all mosques that do not match city codes.
Declare Islam a cult, not a religion to be respected under the first amendment.
Bring back racial profiling in suspecting Muslims.
Investigate all foreign born Arabic people in this country and intern all those who have ties to Islam until they are found to have no ties to any terrorist organization.
If the ACLU protests, disband the ACLU and throw them in Guantanamo prison with their terrorist friends.
Investigate CAIR as a criminal organization and throw them in the same place when terrorist ties are found.

Believe It!, NarutoForums 49 Comments [9/14/2007 1:45:30 PM]
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Submitted By: Necronomikron

Quote# 28986

From recent experience I have firmly come to the conclusion that techno-ish or any sort of trance music (steady repetitive sub) is straight from Satan.

Looking at what it does to a crowd is scary. Aside from the obscene hip gyrations and anti-cultural head bobbings, the proximity of even the bodies is disturbing! Combined with the mdma based substances these crowds turn into the proverbial orgy of first century Rome! The image is a cup full of sinful worms.

As I sit here and listen to Fedde Le Grand's "Put Your Hands Up For Detroit" I feel the urge to fornicate. This raises interesting questions in my mind -- is the entire song possessed or is it just the repetitive sub? Surely it can't be the symphasizer, as I have heard the symphasizer in some RC churches.

Besides, trancish music builds the foundation of the homosexual culture, which is becoming mainstream. Personally this is the most terrifying point, as I have worked with the products of this culture - I do not even know if what remains alive can actually be classified as human. (Meth and E driven raves ruin humanity)

Any thoughts?

monoxide, Phatmass 61 Comments [9/14/2007 1:10:36 PM]
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Quote# 28973

Also Phillip Alexanders father, so If you take Bill Clinton being from Arkansas, as a symbol Marcus Aurelius, Aurelians wall, wallmart. Then cross that with Bentonvilles telephone directory 666. Then if you apply the facts of the Phillip Morris tobacco settlement (once again Morris Mor ris from Osiris Christ, mor from a reprentation of Babylon) then cross that with Phillip being the father of Alex, put all these together you get Alexander(Bush) Persian wars, worship 666. Though also if yoy Apply Saddam Hussein and Darius you get Dar to give(spn) Hussein (husbandtry) So techincally America does not win, just as the Gettysburg Address stated.

Against America, MSNBC Boards 64 Comments [9/14/2007 1:08:37 PM]
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Submitted By: jellobiafra79

Quote# 28978

the crusades being fought by christians is a misconception, technically it was fought by people told by the current pope that fighting the muslims would redeem their sins, essentially they were catholics

and not to mention that their were multiple crusades,each having less and less to do with religion


seanxixamx99 , Gamespot 34 Comments [9/14/2007 12:12:25 PM]
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Submitted By: ninjacat11

Quote# 28976

Hey, women, wake up! Face the fact that you are the more vulnerable of the two sexes. Face the fact that your dress, your manner and your behavior can be provocative. Realize that men are not real smart and that they are programmed to respond to sexy women. Sometimes, those men haven't the where-with-all to understand the word, 'no.' Just as everyone should avoid 'occasions of sin,' women should avoid occasions of sexual stupidity.

Continental Soldier, Free Republic 67 Comments [9/14/2007 11:26:18 AM]
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Quote# 28967

(Regarding Kathy Griffin's Emmy speech)

I don't know what went through her mind and why she would think that was cutting edge or even funny. But first, I want to actually show you that, in fact, Kathy Griffin is wrong. Jesus had everything to do with her winning that award. And here's the reasoning.

(...)

After the resurrection, Christianity began to take off like wildfire, spreading from the Middle East northward to Europe and westward into Ethiopia. In 300 A.D. Emperor Constantine accepted Christianity and it beccame the religion of Europe. Rome soon became the seat of the faith. After several years of human failings, the church went through conflicts and quite a few unbiblical years — the crusades and the inquisition to name just two. Out of that came the Reformation — the reforming of the Church, sort of a back-to-basics Bible and the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Out of the Reformation emerged a vision of law by Samuel Rutherford, called Lex is Rex, Law is King. From that, others devised a secular version that is used to help lay the foundation of government for a new land called America. Ninety-four percent of America's founding era documents mention the Bible; 34 percent quote the Bible directly. The idea of bringing unity to the universal is a particularly Biblical concept.

The freedoms we enjoy in this country to speak freely and to live freely are directly related to that man who died on a cross 2,000 years ago.

So, you see, Kathy Griffin, Jesus has everything to do with you winning that award. You live in a free country where your abilities can be recognized if you're willing to work hard enough. That's at least the dream of America. If you'd been born in many other parts of the world, your daily activity might involve seeking out a way to survive, or even trying to avoid persecution and death. Luxuries like pursuing a career in the entertainment industry would never have been realized; luxuries like being able to insult the founder of a religion of forgiveness and acceptance would not have been possible.

Kathy Griffin, just because you "can" say something, doesn't mean you "should." When you say "suck it, Jesus," you didn't just insult Christianity … you insulted the very reason you've prospered.


Lauren Green, FoxNews.com 33 Comments [9/14/2007 10:27:28 AM]
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Submitted By: amyg113

Quote# 28955

[Does anyone else find this statement completely ironic?]

The president of an Illinois-based pro-family group says many fans of the Fox News Channel would be surprised -- and perhaps even upset -- to know that the network, which describes itself as "fair and balanced," supports a conference for homosexual journalists.

Peter LaBarbera, OneNewsNow 30 Comments [9/14/2007 8:24:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Trovore

Quote# 28957

[Speaks for itself]
Your rejection of religion has nothing to do with the fact that you won't kill people. You don't try to kill people because you don't have the power to, at least, not without losing your own life in the process. Therefore, you cannot assert your version of morality over them. If your version of morality states that people should not murder others, then I am afraid you hold a moral that was influenced by Biblical law. Moreover, if someone has the power to kill you, then your idea of morality becomes incorrect. How you like that?

Believe It!, NarutoForums 33 Comments [9/14/2007 8:20:35 AM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 28962

In response to "No, jkid, you are a great ape. A bipedal neotonous ape, but still an ape. "


but im white :(

i dont think they have white apes if they did it would look tight

jkid20, CrevoScope 40 Comments [9/14/2007 1:40:40 AM]
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Quote# 28940

[about "you might be a Republican if..." list]
oh thats nothing, if i made one for leftists it would be alot better and more true to their nature. why dont you go and join some man-boy lovers group, you are prolly just pissed bcos conservatives are against that sorta thing and for your information, alot of catholics are democrats and it was the cathelic church that has priests raping boys

sweetjane, LiveWire 22 Comments [9/14/2007 1:31:43 AM]
Fundie Index: 4

Quote# 28958

Quote from Jasmine on Yesterday at 5:09pm:
Without leftist-libbies, there would be no legalized abortions, no gay rights, no affirmative action, no political correctness, no stealing from the rich, no government entitlements, etc.

That would be so awesome.

Quote from CaliGuy on Yesterday at 5:16pm:
No voting rights for women, no Bill of Rights, etc.

Indeed, that would be awesome :rolleyes:

Quote from Jasmine Yesterday at 5:26pm
That would be a worthwhile trade-off.

jasmine, Liberty News Forum 25 Comments [9/13/2007 11:52:31 PM]
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Quote# 28949

So these are the youtube Darwinists... unaware of the fact that Newton's theory of gravity was shelved after Einstein's theory replaced it... the obvious point being that theories, no matter how long they are believed, are usually discarded when new insights replace them. Darwinism = Newton's old theory.

That lesson was free. I charge for each lesson thereafter.

xshroudx , YouTube 48 Comments [9/13/2007 8:26:30 PM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 28950

God can void his own morals because he's God, even if it seems hypocritcal it's not because he's God and God can do whatever he wants cause he's God. Where's the confusion?

SecularConservative, FSTDT Comments 52 Comments [9/13/2007 8:23:47 PM]
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Quote# 28954

[There is no evidence for Creationism]

That's because Jesus took the evidence back to Heaven with Him.

AV1611VET, Foru.ms 66 Comments [9/13/2007 8:19:40 PM]
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