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Quote# 29100

DeMorgan's Law kind of blows math "proof" out of the sky.
For example, let's say A is 1+1 = 3 which is a false statement
and let's say B is 2+2 = 5 which is also a false statement

but if you put them together (A^B)

it is a true statement because both are false.

Math doesn't prove anything.

ski, www.njc-njo.com 49 Comments [9/18/2007 11:29:46 PM]
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Submitted By: James

Quote# 29121

1. The universe is not expanding. Many evolutionists claim that the redshift theory is proof of an expanding universe, but in reality, every star is redshifted. Would the universe be expanding around us? I don't think so.
2. Stars do not produce energy by nuclear fusion (which is why we can't get a sustained fusion reaction here on earth--fusion is too unstable for even a star to run on it), but by solar collapse. This gives the sun a shelf life of less than a million years.
3. Stars are not born, no matter what anybody might say. It is against the laws of physics (Boyle's gas laws) for a star to be formed out of gas and dust in a nebula.
4. When a star dies, we have no proof that it collapses into a black hole. It's just a theory.
5. If an asteroid impacted earth, resulting in the rapid burial of life, the result would have been like Pompeii. Instead, we get the fossils, which resulted from rapid burial in mud. They have even found frozen dinosaur bones--with flesh still intact. That is proof that the dinosaurs did not die out because of extinction due to a global winter.
6. The position of the moon and the size of the sun are both proof of the young earth theory. If you rewind time and look at the moon's orbit, 2 million years ago it would have been practically touching the Earth. In addition, if you rewind the timeline and look at the sun's size, you run into a problem a few million years back: it would have engulfed Mercury and Venus, and Earth would have been so close that life could not exist.

mbrsart, RealTimeBelievers 64 Comments [9/18/2007 11:21:54 PM]
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Submitted By: itachisan

Quote# 29091

[In response to the OP who recently broke up with his gf, in part because she was not interested in converting to Christianity. They still live together, and OP is afraid she will hate God for their break-up.]

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Their of the world, just like anyone that is not in Christ. Things may seem to look great now (or then) but that is most likely to change, especially when she really tries to start changing you. After a "break up" is the most volatile time, I'd be less worried about her hating God (as the bible says they already do) rather than she grabbing a hammer in the middle of the night and taking it at you. Even after knowing someone for years, you never really know what they are capable of, and for non-believers that can easily be controlled by demonic powers, it can lead to anything.


NovaStorm, Rapture Ready 30 Comments [9/18/2007 11:14:13 PM]
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Quote# 29087

[In response to an article about foot baths for Muslims installed in airports]

what we need is for some fine person to drop some pickeled pigs feet in the foot baths . those peaceful muslims will never use them again . end of problem

radical1a, Courier-Journal Online 41 Comments [9/18/2007 10:37:17 PM]
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Quote# 29097

I agree that Rock music is straight from the devil!!!! I don't really care what anyone else says( And I promise I'm not trying to be mean at all). If you listen to it I'm not judging you I'm judging the music. Well thats my oppion on it.

When God made music he made it to please him, now what part of Rock music do you think pleases God... The drums mabe, or mabe it's all the younge men with long hair("IT is a shame for a man to have long hair" ) who play that music, Or mabe it's just the way people act when they get around it . I don't know about yall but I think it's the DEVILS twisted way of make something God made for His pleasure into something that can tear Teens away from God.

[emphasis added]

mexicopenny, CBH 61 Comments [9/18/2007 7:20:06 PM]
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Quote# 29089

Fags have a 3 point agenda: 1) decriminalize sodomy, 2) add fags to the protected classes as victims like blacks, and 3) criminalize Gospel preaching against fags. Canada's doom is now irreversible!
On April 28, 2004, Canada hoisted a filthy fag finger in the Face of God by passing a law making any criticism of homosexuals a crime punishable by fines and imprisonment. The churches and preachers of Canada tried massive last-minute lobbying and protests on Parliament Hill to defeat the bill -- too little, too late!
For years, WBC has warned that Canada is a homo-fascist state where the filthy fag agenda has become the law of the land. WBC members have been arrested at Ottawa's International Airport upon entering Canada to picket Parliament and burn the Canadian flag. In Albert, WBC members were ordered by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police not to carry "God Hates Fags" signs on pain of arrest and prosecution. When WBC members did in fact actually burn the Canadian flag in religious protest to Canada's approval of same-sex marriage, the so-called Christians of Canada were the loudest in denouncing WBC and "widely reviling" her Gospel message.
There is no hope for Canada. God hates Canada!


Westboro Baptist Church, God Hates Canada 82 Comments [9/18/2007 4:56:37 PM]
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Quote# 29088

Why would someone who is unsaved and not a Christian, think they are being "open minded", when they clearly outnumber the number of saved Christians? To be open minded is to go against what the majority insists. We know that the majority does NOT believe that Jesus is the only way to heaven. Is the majority always right?

Indeed it is those like me who know that Jesus is the only way to heaven, that are open minded enough to understand that this present world is based upon a lie from Satan.

Damning yourself to eternal hell isn't open mindedness. It is sheer stupidity.

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You can't say, "I'm open minded to all the options out there". There's only TWO options in existence. You are either for Jesus, or you are for Satan. There is no third option. You're not "open minded" at all.

CJ, Yahoo! Answers 40 Comments [9/18/2007 4:31:07 PM]
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Submitted By: Tom

Quote# 29081

...Essentially, they [liberals] want religious people to care less about abortion, homosexuality and gay marriage and more about poverty, war and the environment. That is, they want people to support pacifism, environmentalism and socialism-or in terms of specific policies, they want higher taxes to grow a larger welfare state, immediate withdrawal from Iraq and everybody to pay a pollution tax in the form of carbon offsets.

Or, to be even more clear, they just want voters to put Hillary in the White House....

You see, it all comes down to one's view of inerrancy. Inerrancy is the view that God is the author of every single word of the original autographs of both the Old and New Testaments, and that He superintended the human authors to compose and record without error exactly what He wanted, even down to the specific words that were used.

Frank Pastore, Town Hall 44 Comments [9/18/2007 12:48:51 AM]
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Quote# 29085

[explaining why Christians push religion on people]


"Its just because we care for you. We just dont want you to suffer and regret it, because if we explain it to you and make you realize what God wants, you'll better accept yourself and prevent God from sending you to suffer in the after life.

Why are non-christians being so whiny about it? Would you rather not want us to show you the truth and have you burn for an eternity?

Hey dude, we're just trying to help you. Take it or suffer."

rockin guy xd, LiveWire Teen Forums 59 Comments [9/18/2007 12:47:34 AM]
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Quote# 29082

We're not allowed to read Dawkin's book. It's been banned because it's blasphemous. The Watchtower Society uses this kind of logic, and since they're directed by angels who are the mouthpiece of God, this is God's logic. The logic of God is so profound that it's impossible to comprehend, therefore we must accept that it's perfect and not question it. How's that for logic?

Kyle Michelson , Evolution...or Evilution? 52 Comments [9/18/2007 12:46:59 AM]
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Submitted By: happymealungen

Quote# 29078

We do not deny these atrocities. The point here is that post-Darwin
Atheism, that is educated 20th century Atheists armed with the
scientific "facts" and ramifications of Darwinism, instantly proceeded
to commit genocide on a scale never seen in calendar history. Not
counting the Holocaust, Atheist regimes in the 20th century murdered
at least 100,000,000 million persons.

Ray Sanchez, talk.origins 57 Comments [9/18/2007 12:40:43 AM]
Fundie Index: 10

Quote# 29084

Argumentum Ab Vinum!
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I believe in a 6-day creation by God that occurred about 6,000 - 10,000 years ago.

Yet I also appreciate that scientific analysis concludes that the earth seems much more mature than this, around 4bn years.

How on earth can I reconcile all this? Very easily.

To understand the first miracle in the Bible (the creation), one must also understand the first miracle of Jesus in the Gospel of John- Jesus turning water into wine.

Jesus didn't turn the water into a cheap and nasty wine. He turned it into the best wine, the taste was so good. Logically, the best wines are the oldest. This miracle demonstrates that Jesus could in just a few seconds not only create, but create something MATURE.

In the same way, God in a 6-day period could create a MATURE Universe. This took place 10,000 years ago. Yes the earth does look older than 10,000 years but the earth is a MATURE creation just as Jesus's wine was a MATURE creation.

Case closed. Jesus is Lord.

scarlets79, RichardDawkins.net Forum 67 Comments [9/18/2007 12:39:13 AM]
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Submitted By: Oolon Colluphid

Quote# 29083

Things are not "bad" based on their effects on other people. Things are "bad" based on how God has ranked them on the order of goodness. Fornication, Theft, and Adultery are all major sins, though they are not on equal levels.

Short Answer: EVERYTHING is good or bad because God said so.

Syriankid, bodybuilding.com 34 Comments [9/18/2007 12:38:20 AM]
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Quote# 29080

Caling Christians silly is not the same as calling someone who believes in fairy unicorns silly. Christianity and other ancient religions have a background to them, a real framework of sorts to be based upon. Unicorns, fairies and their half-breed childkin are based only on mythical stories passed down through the ages.

Controverse, Foru.ms 49 Comments [9/17/2007 10:23:37 PM]
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Submitted By: Jordan

Quote# 29066



It is the same wherever people slaughter each other in the name of selfishness rather than in the name of God.
Who do you think the drug cartels are murdering in the name of? Not God, but themselves, this is atheist.
What about the people slaughtering for control of the diamond trade in places like Sierra Leone?
Again atheist.
What about the Dictator Worship of Kim IL Song?
Not a religion, but again, atheism!

I know that atheists typically deny that people slaughter one another in the name of something other than religion, but history bears out the falsehood of their claims.


Foxtrot!, Yahoo! Answers 53 Comments [9/17/2007 6:49:05 PM]
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Quote# 29077

Good points! In Canada, homo-fascism is prevalent. Not only are any public pronouncements against homosexuality essentially banned, but pro-homosexual indoctrination it is now becoming compulsory education in a number of provinces. And you can forget the idea of freedom of association.


oldbetang, foru.ms 41 Comments [9/17/2007 6:48:54 PM]
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Submitted By: quantumbrewer

Quote# 29067

slavery in the Bible was not what is considered slavery in these modern times. It wasn't and issue of race but more of a social status-more likely if you worked for another person rather than owning your own business you were a slave

rachellengland, FACTNet 23 Comments [9/17/2007 5:27:14 PM]
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Quote# 29074

Atheists might seem to be smarter because they are using fancy words and theories to try to cover up what they know is the truth: there is only one way and that is through JESUS CHRIST!


keke, Yahoo! Answers 35 Comments [9/17/2007 5:26:58 PM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 29062

I have never seen anything evolve, have you?

The Sea Shell I find up in the mountains is hundreds of millions of years old,,, ,, , looks just like the one you find on the beach today?

I guess it just plum forgot to evolve (lol)

For evolution to be true,
it would still be going-on today in an on-going process,, , meaning, we would still have things crawling out of the ocean in all different stages of evolution. But we dont do we.

Species do not change they never have and there is not one shred of evedence that they do, NOT one.

It is called Stasis, meaning, things simply do not change.

johncody, FACTNet 31 Comments [9/17/2007 5:24:22 PM]
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Quote# 29061

[to a poster who sees no harm in doing yoga]

You are dead wrong, and most likely full of demons by now. You should stop yoga immediately and order the "sweating to the REAL oldies" tapes. This is a series of aerobic workout tapes set to the chants of Gregorian Monks. Garaunteed not to lead you into the demonic world of things like yoga or that workout dude with the pony tail, he's clearly full of demons too.

ihavesinned, FACTNet 32 Comments [9/17/2007 4:27:40 PM]
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Quote# 29060

Yoga is to help one neutralize their karma and find a way off the cycle of rebirth (reincarnation). How can this spiritual exercise by sanitized for Christian use. And for what reason would it be used? To relax! The Bible teaches God will “keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on You, because he trusts in You.” (Isa. 26:3). One cannot make an excuse that they want to us it to experience peace and or the divine.

The poses that they so diligently practice in their stretching are named after Hindu Gods, and what one is actually doing, is calling on them. In that worshipful pose, they are bowing and for all intents and purposes worshipping that God. Our God says “You shall have no other Gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God.

pro610, FACTNet 25 Comments [9/17/2007 3:34:11 PM]
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Quote# 29042

On Origin of life:

"Humans have emotions. However, I have never seen chemicals in my laboratory expressing love to each other. Have you?"

"We can study the composition - chemical, biological, physical etc. of a chicken egg. However, given those chemicals, we cannot produce a chicken egg. Thus, it is high time when noble prize should be awarded to hens for laying eggs."

Mithanshu Garg, Quest for Wisdom 30 Comments [9/17/2007 2:05:25 PM]
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Submitted By: Anil Gulecha

Quote# 29068

WHY DID THE ROMAN CATHOLIC "CHURCH" IN THE FALL OF 1996 OFFICIALLY ENDORSE EVOLUTION? That question can be answered by the day she observes. Does she observe the seventh-day Sabbath, which is the memorial of creation? Of course not. At the council of Laodicea in the mid-360s she actually outlawed obedience to the Fourth Commandment, and executed Sabbatarians during the Dark Ages! She declares her authority apart from Scripture to switch the day of rest and worship, to the first day of the week. That is just like human nature because God said to work six days and then rest; man wants to take his rest day first and THEN work!

leftin1991, FACTNet 30 Comments [9/17/2007 1:50:40 PM]
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Quote# 29063

Plain and simple Jesus proves the existence of God! What more can be said.

joyful_jan, FACTNet 45 Comments [9/17/2007 1:50:03 PM]
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Quote# 29065

I will explain how a man lived 150 years or more in pre-historic days of Oldteatament. One day is counted as time taken by earth for one revolution. If a man can live 100 years the life span of a man is "100 yrs X 365 dys X 24 hrs". Recently some two years ago do you remember "1 second" was adjusted in Newyear day. That is due to slowness of earth revolution. These type of adjutsments are made scientifically now. You assume that the eath was revolving faster than now in pre-historic time such that the time taken for one revolution of earth is "12 hrs only". So the total time span of man of 100 years now is equal to 200 years then, that is "200 yrs X 365 dats X 12 hrs. That is how a man in old testament days lived more than 100 years and it is going on coming down. It is due to increase in mass and size of the earth going on increasing. There is history of some small planets have fallen on this earth and created earth quakes and Floods. Do you knoe fire of Siberia for more than 100 years due to fall of a celestial body. So the size of earth in increased and the rotation speed is reduced. That is why men's life span reduced to 100 years and less. It was more in olden days due to more speed in rotation of earth.

mksugumaran, FACTNet 27 Comments [9/17/2007 1:00:51 PM]
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