Quote# 96631

Feminism is definitely not a hate-movement against all sexuality. Feminism is a slut-power movement. The goal of sluts is to have sex with the most immoral men they can find. So sex between all women and immoral men is strongly supported by feminism. There are two reasons for the concept of female sex offenses. One is to give lip service to the idea of equality. The other is that sex between a woman and a man who isn't immoral is considered a crime by feminists. So sex with an underage male is a sex offense to feminists because this male hasn't yet had the chance to prove his immorality. Still, there is no question that female sex offenses get much lighter punishments than male sex offenses.

fschmidt, Eivind Berge blog 40 Comments [9/20/2013 3:23:51 AM]
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Submitted By: Miri

Quote# 96628



That's one of the life verses I love is Joshua 1:8 that if you do things according to His law, you'll have prosperity, you'll have success. You just do it according to His way. You also get the promise of Exodus 15:26 that says now if you do all of the things that I command you, you won't be stuck with all those diseases I put on the Egyptians, you'll really be health. And so this is really the basis of healthcare is actually doing your body the way God wants you to do your body. That's one of the great books out of the 60's called "None of These Diseases" by Dr. S.I. McMillen who's just a medical doctor and he said 'hey, let's go back and look at what God said about health things in the Bible." And, my gosh, four thousand, five thousand years later we doctors have finally figured out God got it right.

And I'll make a speculation on this because I think the Bible is always right on science and science eventually does catch up, we're going to find out salt is not that bad a deal for you. There's a reason Jesus made salt a good thing, that we are the salt, we are the light, we're the preservative. Now anything taken too much is going to be a problem, but I have seen in the last two weeks new studies coming out saying well, it turns out salt is not as bad as we thought it was.


David Barton, Right Wing Watch 32 Comments [9/20/2013 3:21:58 AM]
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Quote# 96627

Barton: If God tells you to do it, I guarantee you at some point they will find scientific evidence on why that it is the right thing to do. It may be against the culture, it may not make any sense, who knows what, it doesn't matter.

And we have learned, after years of doing this and seeing literally thousands of stories like this that, you know what, if it's in the Bible, science is eventually going to show that that's the right stuff and the right thing to do.

If God says it and it's in the Scriptures, I don't care if its homosexuality or marriage, I don't care whether it's economics or debt, I don't care whether it's education and studies; if God says to do it, it's going to be the right thing to do and it will help me and benefit me.

Rick Green: And eventually it will be proven out. Whether it's six months or six hundred years, at some point it's going to get proven out.


David Barton & Rick Green, Right Wing Watch 29 Comments [9/20/2013 3:21:51 AM]
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Quote# 96626

What I find perverse about homosexuality is the insistence from the gay community that I should know about their sexual proclivities. Normal people understand that sex is an extremely intimate and therefore private act. I would find it troubling, if not disgusting, for anyone to talk publicly about what kind of sex they like to practice. Normal people do not want to broadcast to the world the details of their sex lives. There is something wrong with those who want complete strangers to know who they like to have sex with.

Medical statistics tell me homosexuality is unhealthy. My Christian faith teaches me it is unrighteous. Common sense tells me it is unfruitful and unnatural. But none of that is why I am fed up with the gay community. I’m just sick of hearing about how one group of people demand that everyone in the world accept who they want to have sex with!

…

I wonder if all the stories making the news today about bakers and florists being forced to cater to homosexuals would be stories but for people announcing who they like to have sex with? I mean, did the offended customers come in and ask for a wedding cake or flowers for their wedding and were denied service because they looked like homosexuals? Or did the customer come in and announce their sexual preference and then demand service? I suspect the latter.

I believe homosexuality is wrong. Just like I believe adultery and sex outside of marriage is wrong. But even though I believe I have good reasons for opposing homosexuality as a normative lifestyle based on science, medicine, and faith, that is not why I strongly oppose it. I believe anyone who insists everyone know what they do in their bedroom and with whom is perverse. Normal people do not define themselves solely on the basis of who they are sexually attracted to.

Ray Rooney Jr, Rightly Concerned 30 Comments [9/20/2013 3:20:32 AM]
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Quote# 96623

Who is Barak Obama. Do we really know. So Obama is an American just as they are not really "real" babies that are being systematically exterminated in the wombs by the thousands. If you accept the Bible as the Word of God then one must come to the realization that God will judge the world and every soul that has been created from the beginning. All Points 2 Jesus. Repent and believe in Jesus Christ. Jesus says " you must be born again ". I do not want the USA to bomb Syria... but maybe there is something much greater than all of this... Maybe this is Gods way of getting our attention. The bible states that we will all die... and then comes judgement as we are face to face with the Living and only God. Salvation is a gift from the Creator, as Jesus paid the price on the cross and rose from the dead 3 days later... but the gift must be accepted individually !

R. L. FERNANDEZ, WND 30 Comments [9/20/2013 3:19:51 AM]
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Quote# 96617

There are other facts of human anatomy that serve to contradict the idea that we are supposed to eat meat. Our bodies are not suitably equipped to chase down and dispatch other animals, and by the time our species invented artificial weapons, we had already adapted our biological requirements over millions of years. This being the inarguable case, raw meat advocates sometimes posit that early humans ate the rotting leftover prey of carnivorous animals. With this theory, we are asked to believe that early humans (with their hands and other eating faculties being perfectly suited to the gathering and eating of fruit), chose to pass up the sweet, fragrant, ripe fruit hanging from the trees in favor of rotting carrion. This seems a highly unlikely scenario in all but cases of extreme food scarcity. There is no doubt that ancient humans were forced to eat meat during certain phases of history when food was unavailable, due to migration or climate change, etc. Humans might have even survived on meat for extended periods; however, this did not change our basic physiology, which is still intactly frugivorous, as evidenced by the similarities between us and other frugivorous animals. Additionally, it makes no sense to allow what humans might have done in times of food scarcity to influence our dietary decisions now when our food choices are virtually unlimited.

We should also consider the vast differences between our senses and those of animals that eat meat. Carnivores don’t see in color, for example. They don’t need to because they basically just eat anything that moves. So, they are much more attuned to movement, and are much quicker to respond to movement than we are. Do you salivate when a bug runs past your foot? Can you catch, kill and eat a mouse in a dark room? These are the natural skills and adaptations of true carnivores and omnivores. We humans, on the other hand, see in color because our food is colorful. We appreciate the contrast of a red berry against a background of green. We can smell the fragrance of ripe fruit. We crave the sweet taste of fruit. We have the delicate touch needed to pick fruit without damaging it. Indeed, all of our senses seem geared toward finding, gathering and eating fruit.

A look at our digestive chemistry provides even more evidence that fruit is our primary natural food. We have enzymes that easily break down simple carbohydrates, but we lack those needed to fully break down complex sugars like grains and tubers. We also have very little of the enzyme necessary to break down meat (uricase). We can break it down, of course, but doing so is extremely costly in terms of body energy. That’s why people lose weight on high protein diets — the energy “cost” of meat is more than it returns to our bodies. Meat digests very slowly and is not entirely utilized by the body, whether eaten cooked or raw, which means it creates a great deal of waste for our bodies to eliminate. One particularly harmful waste product of meat consumption is uric acid, which deteriorates joints and causes arthritis. These waste products over-burden the elimination processes of our bodies. Meat moves so slowly through us, because of the convoluted and alkaline nature of our digestive systems, that there is no way to prevent putrefaction from occurring in our guts. Putrefaction produces waste products that are toxic to us. Since it is the overburdening of waste in the body that creates ALL disease, it is easy to see how meat-eating is especially destructive of health.

Nora Lenz, Raw School 63 Comments [9/19/2013 3:48:31 AM]
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Quote# 96616

Scientists since the late 1800s, including Louis Pasteur, have all been part of a rather disorganized conspiracy to convince the public that the true cause of disease is pesky germs. Of course, there was no real conspiracy. Medical practitioners have also duped themselves into believing these deceptions just as much as they’ve duped us into believing their irrational propaganda. The germ theory of disease came on the heels of the Middle Ages when people believed that demons and evil spirits caused all diseases, so it wasn’t that big of a transition to go from demons to microscopic bacteria. The belief in viruses came later, but they don’t cause disease, either. Wait a minute! Am I saying that Ebola, HIV, and other viruses don’t cause disease? Am I saying that anthrax, pneumonia, and other diseases are not caused by bacteria? The answer to both questions is a resounding yes! Viruses and bacteria cause disease about as much as trees cause the wind to blow. It might look like this is the case, and that’s why scientists have duped themselves into believing such a fallacy, but in truth, health is caused by healthy living. I can’t transmit my bad health any more than I can transmit my good health. It’s easy to blame germs, but what we should be doing is blaming ourselves when we get sick. We’re responsible, and that’s something a lot of people just don’t want to hear.

Dan Hall, Raw School 68 Comments [9/19/2013 3:48:04 AM]
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Quote# 96611

Why Is there a General Aversion Against Trannies?

Because on the whole, average, collective, individual level, deep down inside they are deceitful people. Society do not make trannies deceitful, it is who they are. Deceitful people have latched on to tranny-ism (an ideology created in order for deceit to prosper) because it gives them cover.
Trust your instincts. It is not about expression, rebellion, transgression, etc. It is about a group of horrible and to the bone sociopaths creating a socially and lawfully means to practice their deceit.

If I didn’t consider them so fundamentally monstrous, I would feel sorry for them.

No one likes a liar, no one likes a thief.

Kitty Glendower, A Room of Our Own 47 Comments [9/19/2013 3:45:52 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog

Quote# 96601

I have the evidence that this was planned by Ruth Bader Ginsberg along with several others as part of an ongoing agenda to weaken the US Forces starting in 1960's. I have written a study proving that the 22 suicides per day has also been planned and is being orchestrated. My website is Watchmanchronicles.com. The study is "The Suicide Conspiracy". Most of the founding fathers were Deists, and the Declaration was modeled after the Magna Charter using LIberty as a trigger for the Revolutionary War planned to fail from the start. We were put into three 70-year bank cycles starting in 1789, 1859, 1929 and the final one was supposed to be in December 1999. People don't want to know the real truth but I still broadcast this on the air five days per week and Gods word along with it. There is now coming a paradigm soon, with Disclosure looming in the shadows.

tgambill, The Daily Beast 39 Comments [9/18/2013 3:37:20 AM]
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Quote# 96596

No Spicoli, you don't get it.

I am saying if you do not think you would ask God to spare your life when face with a terrible disease like aids, I am asking you to allow me to pray that God strike you down with aids, cancer or whatever it takes for you to beg and or grovel for your life. Why? To simply prove the point that there are no atheist when you are staring down the barrel of eternity. That is how I know those 'elite controllers' were healed. Because I know they prayed. Even the ones who thought they were atheist.

I'm not just talking about " a bad day, week, month, or even year." Again the offer is if you think you can, you will stand firm in your beliefs and not beg for mercy/life just say the word, and I will ask God to infect you with something or place you in a situation where you can find out for yourself.

gnothi seauton.
I am giving you an oppertunity to "know thyself."

[Go ahead Drich, pray to god that I have a terrible life. Go right ahead. Prove my point and demonstrate your Christian love at the same time. Win/win.]

Not a terrible life. A deadly disease. Or to be put in a life and death situation. There is nothing I am offering to do for you that I have not already prayed for myself. In that, a long time ago I asked God to do whatever it took, even if it meant my life, to help me see and understand Him. I now offer that on your behalf for you. Not as a curse but an opportunity to not only know yourself, but in the journey to get to know God.

For he who cherishes his life above all else will loose it. And he who forsakes his life for Christ will gain eternal life.

Just know I generally get what I pray for.

Drich, Atheist Forums 48 Comments [9/18/2013 3:29:57 AM]
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Quote# 96594

You may recall last month's backlash facing middle Tennessee's Rutherford County Board of Education and its decision to remove all of GLSEN's 'Safe Space' posters from classrooms on the grounds that the poster's content was too 'political' and 'sexual' because it contained the words 'lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender.'

With both the state and national American Civil Liberties Union having spoken out against the homophobic policy, the school board held a meeting Wednesday night to gage public opinion on the issue and discuss a potential review of the policy. The Daily News Journal reports board members told the standing-room-only crowd at the meeting that they will study the district's anti-bullying policy but took no further action.

"We have a desire to protect the interests of all students in our school system," said Don Odom, director of Rutherford County Schools. "Our staff attorney, Jeff Reed, will look at the policy to see if there are changes to be made in order to make (the policies) more inclusive."
he teacher from whose classroom the poster was removed, Allen Nichols, spoke at the meeting and said that the issue here is more than just anti-bullying resources for students. At stake are the free speech rights of students, a notion that senior Bethany Howard appreciated was being kept in mind.

"It means so much to me that Mr. Nichols has taken a stand for student speech," Howard said. "This is a very charged issue, and it's not often that someone takes a stand like he has. And I've never heard him talk about his personal beliefs on politics, religion or any social issues."

Others at the meeting, however, spoke out against Nichols and the poster. Penny Johnson, director for Parents for Truth in Education, said she thought the posters unfairly privileged one group of students over others.

"We have to treat all children from all aspects equally and fairly," said Johnson. "By putting a special poster up for specific group in that area, you're giving them special treatment regarding bullying."

Considering LGBT teens are disproportionately targeted for bullying in schools, I wouldn't exactly consider the poster "special treatment." 88% of LGBT students in Tennessee have been verbally harassed and 43% have been physically harassed in the past year because of their sexual orientation, according to GLSEN's "2011 Tennessee State Snapshot"

Rutherford County Board of Education, Towerload 28 Comments [9/17/2013 3:32:47 AM]
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Submitted By: SZD

Quote# 96589

Why is this study even necessary? Why can't science simply believe the word of God? Why can't science simply read Matthew 11:25-26, and believe Jesus? This study should not come as a revelation, rather this study merely confirms that it is the will of the Father that spiritual things are hidden from the wise/intelligent,

At that time Jesus declared, “I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children; yes, Father, for such was your gracious will.

Abib14, Patheos 56 Comments [9/17/2013 3:30:44 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo

Quote# 96588

Should we trust that our senses are basically reliable? Not in the secular worldview. According to evolution, our sensory organs are merely the result of accidental mutations – those that did not decrease our survival value and were therefore not eliminated. Some people might suppose that our sensory organs are reliable because they have survival value. But this does not follow logically. Chlorophyll has survival value in plants; but this does not imply that chlorophyll reliably informs the plant about the outside world.

Jason Lisle, Jason Lisle's blog 49 Comments [9/17/2013 3:30:30 AM]
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Quote# 96587

Why in the secular worldview should we suppose that our mind has the capacity to be rational? Rationality involves choice; we consciously consider the various options and then choose the best. But in the secular worldview, the brain is simply chemistry – and chemistry has no choice. Chemicals always react according to prescribed laws of nature. In the secular worldview, there is no more reason to trust a human brain than there is to trust in reading tea leaves. Both are just the inevitable result of chemical reactions.

Jason Lisle, Jason Lisle's blog 28 Comments [9/17/2013 3:30:16 AM]
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Quote# 96582

I'll try to explain why it is morally ok to kill TAC (btw, TAC is The Atheist Cult, not Club) members.

You see, TAC members aren't human beings at all. They are more like wild dogs or monsters from works of fiction. Mindless, braindead zombies. They have little in common with human beings. They are unable to create original thoughts or ideas. Verbally, they are limited to barking political correctness.

One guy asked me how can I compare TAC to SS or Al-Qaeda. I simply asked him if SS or Al-Qaeda ever wanted to exterminate all the decent people in the world. I don't think so. TAC will achieve exactly that if they're not stopped. They're too stupid to plan it like those two organizations did/do plan their crimes, which is even worse, because the entire process of extermination of all the decent people in the world will take longer and be more meandering.

You can't re-educate a TAC member. A TAC member is a modern 11th century leprous religious fanatic or a die-hard fascist whose endgame, despite him not being aware of it, IS EXTERMINATION OF EVERY SINGLE DECENT PERSON IN THE WORLD.

What would you have people do with TAC members? Jail them? They would try to escape, they would try to kill guards.... It's impossible.

TAC members are worse than any religion because no religion worshiped their gods as much as TAC members worship theirs.

Believe me, it would be better for TAC members to just be put down.

Does this mean I will kill TAC members myself? No, because I fear legal retribution in doing so, as they are mistakenly seen as humans. But I will make damn sure that people understand that they're not humans and outlaw them.

GovernmentsGetGfs, Reddit 75 Comments [9/17/2013 3:21:32 AM]
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Quote# 96577

Christian Right radio host Kevin Swanson says it is appropriate to attend a same-sex wedding but only as long as you hold up a sign calling for the happy couple to be put to death.

Taking a page from Gordon Klingenschmitt, who said that photographers should print “worthy of death” on photos of the wedding of a same-sex couple, Swanson said that guests can “attend the wedding and hold up the sign Leviticus 20:13 word for word: ‘If a man sleeps with a man as he sleeps with a woman the two of them have committed an abomination and they shall both be put to death.’ You could attend a wedding and hold up that sign.”

Bakeries, such as the Oregon cake shop that refused service to a gay couple, can do the same thing: “if you bake a cake for a homosexual wedding you can put Leviticus 20:13 on the cake.”

Swanson accused gay “fascists” of attacking the Oregon bakery, telling listeners “that the Nazi Party had their birth at a homosexual bar in Berlin…. This is what homosexuals do best and they will engage in their Pink Mafia effort to control and shut down businesses that do not cooperate with their agenda.”

Following a discussion of how same-sex weddings are “Neronic weddings” as they were developed by Nero, Swanson confessed that he finds it “mindboggling” why homosexuality is “outrageously popular” today.

Pastor Kevin Swanson, Right Wing Watch 48 Comments [9/17/2013 3:19:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Kevin Klawitter

Quote# 96576

A GROUP of Catholic nuns began a well-funded bus tour yesterday to campaign for more federal monies for the poor. While the most vulnerable members of society suffer the ravages of the sexual revolution and the loss of the sacred, these leftist sisters of mercy insist what people need most is government charity. Confirming the image of America’s religious sisters as political hucksters, these nuns are committed to a desacralized society. Pray for these foolish revolutionaries. They know not what they do. Their minds have been steeped in Kumbaya.

Laura Wood, The Thinking Housewife 52 Comments [9/17/2013 3:19:12 AM]
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Submitted By: Chipmunk

Quote# 96573

[After a long-winded expository on personal anecdotes, psychiatry and particularly Freud, who has been all but completely discredited...]

In short, all human neuroses derive from this complex. Obviously, in most cases, this potential is not expressed in any seriously neurotic manner. Instead it shows up in attitudes toward authority, in dreams, slips of the tongue, transient irrationalities, etc.

.....

Now, in postulating a universal Oedipus complex as the origin of all our neuroses, Freud inadvertently developed a straightforward rationale for understanding the wish-fulfilling origin of rejecting God. After all, the Oedipus complex is unconscious, it is established in childhood and, above all, its dominant motive is hatred of the father and the desire for him not to exist, especially as represented by the desire to overthrow or kill the father. Freud regularly described God as a psychological equivalent to the father, and so a natural expression of Oedipal motivation would be powerful, unconscious desires for the nonexistence of God. Therefore, in the Freudian framework, atheism is an illusion caused by the Oedipal desire to kill the father and replace him with oneself. To act as if God does not exist is an obvious, not so subtle disguise for a wish to kill Him, much the same way as in a dream, the image of a parent going away or disappearing can represent such a wish: "God is dead" is simply an undisguised Oedipal wish-fulfillment.

And, of course, the Oedipal dream is not only to kill the father and possess the mother or other women in the group but also to displace him. Modern atheism has attempted to accomplish this. Now man, not God, is the consciously specified ultimate source of goodness and power in the universe. Humanistic philosophies glorify him and his "potential" much the same way religion glorifies the Creator. We have devolved from one God to many gods to everyone a god. In essence, man-through his narcissism and Oedipal wishes-has tried to succeed where Satan failed, by seating himself on the throne of God. Thanks to Freud it is now easier to understand the deeply neurotic, thoroughly untrustworthy psychology of this unbelief.

Prof. Paul C. Vitz, OODE 21 Comments [9/17/2013 3:18:04 AM]
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Submitted By: calshepN7

Quote# 96572

(When asked how plants could have existed before the Sun was 'created' in Gen. 1)

Do you know what hydroponics is?

In short it is growing plants with artifical light/Non sun light. Is it your belief that only man can create light?Big Grin

Did you know that certain plants and certain coral grow better under certain blends of artifical light than they do in the sun? How is that possiable if they all 'evolved' with the sun as their only source of light?

On the first Day God created 'Light.' Possiably meaning the light spectrum in general or maybe just the three visiable wave lengths we can see. Then later on the sun became the primary source of our visiable light. It doesn't mean God Himself was not the orginal source.

Drich, AtheistForums.org 29 Comments [9/17/2013 3:17:29 AM]
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Submitted By: Stimbo

Quote# 96571

However, whether you believe in God or don't believe, from the moment that you CHOOSE to not believe (if that is the expression you prefer), then you are doing so WITHOUT ANY SUPPORTING EVIDENCE. You are taking a position without having any proof. Otherwise, you could have simply stated "I don't know". You would NOT have said "I don't believe in a god". Is it that hard, for you to state "I don't know" ?

....

And we must point out here that expressions such as "WE don't know if a God exists" are equally erroneous, because in this way, the speaker GENERALIZES HIS OWN IGNORANCE, to apply to everyone. If one individual doesn't know that God exists, then it is totally different to EVERYONE not knowing. Thus, generalizations of this kind are equally irrational. It is more appropriate if that one person says "I don't know....", otherwise, he must justify HOW he knows that everyone else doesn't know.

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This atheistic sophistry is a classic case of subterfuge for the purpose of creating impressions. The atheist chooses to use "dragons" and "flying spaghetti monsters" as an example; <b>in other words, he chooses something that by definition does not exist,</b> in order to predispose the other on the matter of God, for Whom there are millions of testimonies that He exists. This is evidence of a subconscious (albeit unwitting) use of subterfuge, on account of the atheist's inability to confront the eyewitness testimonies differently. This is exactly what applies, in the example with the dragon: the atheist chooses something by definition nonexistent in his attempt to justify something that is adequately testified.

N.M., OODE 28 Comments [9/17/2013 3:17:09 AM]
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Submitted By: calshepN7

Quote# 96566

"As a state agency, Texas Military Forces must adhere with Texas law, and the Texas Constitution, which clearly defines marriage as between one man and one woman," said Josh Havens, a spokesman for Gov. Rick Perry's office.

Despite its proud and longstanding tradition of independence, the Texas Military Forces is not like other agencies. In fact, given that it includes the Army National Guard and Air National Guard (in addition to the Texas State Guard), in some ways it is more a federal agency than a state one. As such, some argue, its policies should fall in line with those out of Washington.

Following a landmark Supreme Court ruling that effectively struck down the Defense of Marriage Act, which prohibited federal benefits from going to same-sex partner, the door has now been opened to gay and lesbian spouses.
Shortly before leaving office earlier this year, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta announced that same-sex partners who sign a military "Declaration of Domestic Partnership" form will be eligible for several benefits, including military identification cards as dependents. Those who did would be allowed unescorted onto bases, get access to commissaries, have the right to visit their partners in military hospitals and be eligible for many survivor benefits, including life insurance benefits. The Pentagon estimated at the time that there may be 5,600 troops on active duty seeking such benefits, as well as 8,000 retirees and 3,400 National Guard troops. Tuesday was the first day all partners of same-sex troops could claim such benefits, the Pentagon has said.

But in the latter category, Texas isn't readily coming aboard.

Texas, like some other states, expressly prohibits same-sex marriage under its law. That state law trumps federal law, argues Perry and others.
"(Texas Military Forces) is a state agency under the authority and direction of the Texas state government," wrote the forces' adjutant general, Maj. Gen. John Nichols, in a memo dated August 30. "... Due to the potential conflict (between state and federal law), we are unable to enroll same-sex families ... at our state-supported facilities until we receive legal clarification."
In a statement Tuesday, the Texas Military Forces insisted that while Nichols is asking the state's attorney general for an advisory opinion, "the state is not denying any federal benefits to military personnel or same-sex spouses of military personnel."
"This is a processing issue, not a denial of benefits issue," the agency says. "As such, we fully encourage eligible members to enroll for their federal benefits at one of the 20 nearest federal installations, which are dispersed throughout the state of Texas."

The office of state Attorney General Greg Abbott did not respond to a CNN request for comment on the matter.
Yet Stephen Peters, the president of the American Military Partner Association, sees what's happening in Texas as "truly outrageous," claiming that same-sex partners are being denied certain rights and benefits simply because they're based in the Lone Star State.
"Gov. Rick Perry should be ashamed," Peters said Tuesday, accusing Texas policymakers of playing "politics with our military families."
"Our military families are already dealing with enough problems, and the last thing they need is more discrimination from the state of Texas."

Gov. Rick Perry, CNN.com 29 Comments [9/16/2013 3:29:57 AM]
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Submitted By: SZD

Quote# 96564

Immanuel Kant suggested that morality should be based on human dignity and reason, sort of like the "Golden Rule", but without the Golden Rule Giver. From a practical perspective, the categorical imperative fails when trying to resolve two evil choices (ie., lying to save a life). From a secular standpoint, neither human dignity nor reason can be justified, thus the categorical imperative begs too many questions. Consider the following quote from atheist Richard Dawkins:

"For the first half of geological time our ancestors were bacteria. Most creatures still are bacteria, and each one of our trillions of cells is a colony of bacteria."


From a secular standpoint, human dignity and human reason must be accounted for before any moral standard can be build upon them. Finally, we must ask yet again,

What obligates us to act “according to that maxim by which you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law”? Like all other secular ethical theories, the categorical imperative cannot be a sound basis for ethics, since it must assume a moral standard in order to build rules by which we act.

The “Social Contract” holds that humans, by virtue of being human, are contracted to obey ethics laws which are necessary for peaceful, cooperative, social order.

Aside from the fact that what makes up a "peaceful, cooperative, social order" is subjective at best, the social contract does not justify ethical standards as much as it assumes them in advance. What obligates humans to be concerned about a peaceful, cooperative social order? Like relativism and subjectivism, the social contract reduces immorality to mere "non-conformity", thus has no objective meaning.

In dealing with the various secular theories of ethics, two questions immediately come to mind.

1.) Why so many? If the secular worldview can justify morality, I would have expected there to be a predominant theory, with maybe one of two non-conforming theories. Instead, however, what this study shows is that there is no moral standard in a secular world.

2.) All of these theories have in common the fact than none of them can account for moral obligation. Instead, they must assume their standard in order to promote their theory.

As we have shown, not only are secular moral theories logically inconsistent, they are also unjustifiable. It is one thing to invent a moral theory, as many secularists have done. It is another thing to give a rational justification for that theory, and all secular moral theories have failed in this regard. The natural, materialistic worldview simply cannot justify obligation, “IS” cannot produce “OUGHT”.

purtian lad, covenant theology 39 Comments [9/16/2013 3:28:36 AM]
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Quote# 96553

the presumption is science is the Truth.
That's false.
Once a person becomes aware of the fallacious nature of science -- the errors in the laws -- and sees that there is a serious problem with the structure and foundations of science, but continues to idolize science and promote this human endeavor as the 'Truth' while it clearly isn't, spiritually speaking there's a price to pay.

Rewrote the laws and unified the macroscopic (diffusion) with the atomic/subatomic (fine-structure constant) through a proper definition of mass -- the gateway to unification. Redefined objectivity as limiting one's analyses through the use of transcendental numbers and integers only. Uncovered the missing universal constant one half the square root of pi over e. Pi over e makes space time inseparable, and this constant relates to mass -- space-time-mass are connected.
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No one will be convicted for being caught up in the great delusion. However, once the Truth is known, the spiritual penalty will be very severe for promolgating the present state of idolized science. Don't worry about being held legally responsible. Worry about being held spiritually accountable for idolatry.
Source? God of course.

Gone, Yahoo Answers 35 Comments [9/16/2013 3:20:49 AM]
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ghosts are demons.
1.demons want to drag u to hell.
2.the only way to fight these demons is with the help of God. His name is Jesus Christ. demons fear Him.
so, to help u start fighting these demons, i suggest u pray 'psalm 26' 1600 times in 40 days. it's a lot of effort, but it's worth it if u don't want demons to cohabit with u.
people like me and other yahoo users can't really help u. only God can help u, that is, if u ask Him for help.
3.also, i suggest u put sign of the cross on everything in ur house.
Using ur right hand, you should touch your forehead at the mention of the Father; just above the belly button at the mention of the Son; and the right shoulder on the word "Holy" and the left shoulder on the word "Spirit."
The Sign of the Cross:
"In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen."
4.also, i suggest u pray this prayer 100 times a day:
"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, deliver me from the antichrist, enemy forces [demons], and witchcraft. Amen"
a note on aliens. aliens are demons. Christian God created these aliens. first, they were nice looking, now they're not so nice looking. so, demons dress in fake human skin and fly in ufo ships. warning: 80ftdinosaurs will come out from underground through sinkholes and lakes, and start eating people up; antichrist is a white gay man with red eyes; mark of the antichrist is a green electronic nwo tattoo with sixes that is given by lasers when one stretches their hand to receive a new small gray world passport; ufos=demons=aliens=ascended masters=ghosts=channeled entities=dead relatives during seances=spirit guides=pagan gods=greys etc.; atlantis (where aliens make humans their puppets) is underneath mariana trench; china will attack russia; don't worship the antichrist; don't take "the chip, world passport, and nwo tattoo"; don't go into a ufo ship under any circumstances

Blood of Jesus Saves, Yahoo Answers 42 Comments [9/16/2013 3:20:20 AM]
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No, evolution had contributed in no way to medicine, but caused murder to be legalised (heart transplant, abortions, euthanasia) . Also the number of suicides has risen since this theory was popularised. Antibiotics were discovered by accident by Alexander Fleming who was a Christian and had nothing to with evolutionary theories. Or I should say rediscovered, as many other cultures used antibiotics in their raw form in the ancient times.

Panait C, Yahoo Answers 35 Comments [9/16/2013 3:18:33 AM]
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