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Quote# 96443

To give you are reference point to understand my passionate interest in the topic of Christian apologetics, I was an atheist for 35 years, and not an apathetic atheist, but an ardent, passionate, vituperative and proselytizing atheist. I convinced members of my family to stop attending church, and convinced college friends of mine at school to depart from their religious beliefs. I was good at what I did.

Then, not long ago, I began to loose my faith in atheism. As a model of the universe, a model that left out the supernatural dimension of things did not have the explanatory power needed to serve as a model. Too much was left unexplained; too much was unaccounted-for. To quell the growing and lurking suspicion that there could be something wrong with my perfectly logical model, I decided on an experiment: I prayed to the non-existent God and double-dog-dared him to show himself to me, or else, if he did not show, I was relieved from any effort to pursue any further inquiry into his existence.

Before three days passed, I had a heart attack, was dying, and the prayer of someone who claims to have the power to heal through prayer, healed me through prayer. The attacked stopped within a moment of the prayer. This was something my model could not account for. Going to the hospital to see what the attack had been (at the time, I thought it was pleurisy) the doctors announced that I had five clogged arteries and required major surgery. The holy spirit came into my body, and I felt it almost like a physical sensation. Instead of being frightened or even annoyed by the hospital stay, it was one of the most joyous and pleasant times of my life, ever. I was visited by the Virgin Mary, who spoke to me, and by Jesus Christ, who frighted the crap out of me, and my God Almighty, who was beautiful beyond words. Christ said that God does not judge people, but that he, Christ, would be my judge, for the authority to judge man has been given to him.

At that point, I was sure this was an hallucination or a dream, because we all know that Christians believe in a judgmental God, who condemns the wicked. I should mention I was not on any painkillers or any medication which might cloud the judgment or induce hallucination. I was oriented as to time, place and person. I was aware of the nature and character of my acts. I talked this over with my wife in the car after we were driving back from the hospital.

After I was released from the hospital, about a weak later, I had another ecstatic experience, and was sent on something like a spiritual journey outside of time and viewed reality from the point of view of eternity, and was the told the solution to an old philosophical conundrum concerning the problem of determinism versus the freedom of the will, as well as the nature of Biblical prophecy. Again, there were no drugs, no bumps on the head, no other evidence of hallucination or madness.

So I decided to start reading the Bible. In a book of the Bible I had not read before (atheist do not normally pore through the Bible, after all) I came across a passage I had never read and never heard any Christian ever make reference to in my hearing. The passage is from John 5:22 “For the Father judges no man, but has committed all judgment to the Son.”
This is almost word for word what Christ said to me.

John C. Wright, John C. Wright's Journal 78 Comments [9/8/2013 5:12:33 AM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 96441

Atheism is a freakish belief that afflicts people without normal social skills, who are unable to see the divine nature of the universe we all inhabit. But, it is a freakish belief which has a certain appearance of internal consistency, a certain childlike simplicity of explanation, that can be made put forward in a good light if you have your arguments prepared, and if you have your axioms defined.

John C. Wright, John C. Wright's Journal 40 Comments [9/8/2013 5:12:08 AM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 96440

May I humbly suggest some other possible causes for the scalzification of American men?

1. Aggro tankgrrls

When the land fills up with aggressively posturing, careerist feminist shrikes on the divorce court warpath, aided and abetted by Cathedral man-haters, the collective response by society’s testes is to ascend behind the sheltering bony plate of the pubis. You could call it the “Junk Tuck and Shuck” theory of increasing faggotry. How this works on a biochemical level is hard to pinpoint, but it makes some intuitive sense that as women gain more cultural power through their own means or a Big Daddy government check, men rationally respond by becoming either smooth talking cads or mewling beta suck-ups. Do women like this state of affairs? Probably not, but as long as men can get the pussy this way, that’s what they’ll give women. The sexual polarity will find its opposing balance, by whatever means necessary.

2. Estrogen in everything

Soy is in everything. So is the effluvium of the Pill. It seems we can’t go a week without some new study touching down with evidence of increased estrogen in our food and water supplies.

3. Lack of a cleansing war/too many men

A culture’s men get soft in the arms of materialist decadence. Never more so than today with so many hindbrain-targeted pleasure stimulators acquired for a relative pittance. Too many men accumulating from a lack of natural (or unnatural) culling means that, thanks to the cosmic directive of female hypergamy, a lot of dispensable, reproductively useless men are piling up. Combine the softness with the uselessness, and it’s a small leap to infer that the male sex would respond, at least at the margins, with a growing acceptance of testosterone-challenged and sexual marketplace-abstaining gayness, broniness, tranniness, and general supine self-flagellating leftoid-ness.

4. Dem friggin fat cows

Maybe male obesity can’t explain much of the trend toward lower T among men, but perhaps FEMALE obesity can explain it. What’s the point of manning up when all your women have womanned down? After all, you don’t have to be much of a man to jerk it to a digital dreamgirl. Fat chicks and porn everywhere have reduced the pressure to find a sexy babe to love, and testosterone levels have responded in kind. What doesn’t get used, atrophies.


CH, Chateau Heartiste  64 Comments [9/8/2013 5:11:44 AM]
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Submitted By: skybison

Quote# 96437

It is funny that you NEVER hear Christian's burning down any church. That is because we follow the right faith. That Jesus Christ is Lord. Buddhist's against Muslims... Boy, If they followed the right faith, perhaps these things would be avoided. UGH. The truth will set you free.

Bible_Gal17, Rapture Ready 41 Comments [9/8/2013 5:08:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo

Quote# 96432

For the same reason there are no 'atheist' in fox holes (at least while being shot at.) when one is face with the very real threat of death, even if you have doubts, one tends to believe enough to ask for his or her own life whether they will admit it or not.



They do not look like they're underfire to me. Or do you not know what a fox hole is? Those guys look like they work 'in the rear with the gear' where people can still afford to deny God. (Note the big High wall behind them and the gate.) Again a base is not a fox hole.

(I'm pretty fucking sure people who go into foxholes don't just stay there unless they get shot down. Who the fuck are you to judge people as the "foxhole type"?)

Again because they are not standing in 'Fox holes' being shot at.

Just because you are 'over there' does not automaticaly place you on the front lines (Where the fox holes are.)

Just so we are clear a 'fox hole' is a pit dug usually hastily for individual cover from enemy fire. Meaning there are not high was or protect areas/armor to hide behind.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/foxhole

Again those d-bags are not in foxholes.


Drich, Atheist Forums 52 Comments [9/8/2013 5:07:46 AM]
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Submitted By: Stimbo

Quote# 96416

Half of the murders in large cities were committed by homosexuals; thirty-three percent of child abuse cases were committed by homosexuals; half of the foster children molestations were done by homosexuals.

Jake McMillan, Right Wing Watch 53 Comments [9/7/2013 4:40:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Zagen30

Quote# 96415

While responding to a question from a woman who wondered if it was wrong for the church not to inform her that a man she was driving to worship services is “dying of AIDS,” Robertson admitted that he “used to think it was transmitted by saliva and other things, now they say it may be sexual contact.”

“What to say if you’re driving an elderly man whose got AIDS? Don’t have sex with them,” Robertson said, “unless there’s a cut or some bodily fluid transmission, I think you’re not going to catch it.”

But Robertson didn’t stop there.

“There are laws now, I think the homosexual community has put these draconian laws on the books that prohibit people from discussing this particular affliction, you can tell somebody you had a heart attack, you can tell them they’ve got high blood pressure, but you can’t tell anybody you’ve got AIDS,” he continued.

Despite Meeuwsen’s best attempts to steer the conversation away from Robertson’s anti-gay paranoia, Robertson insisted that gay people use special rings to transmit the virus.

“You know what they do in San Francisco, some in the gay community there they want to get people so if they got the stuff they’ll have a ring, you shake hands, and the ring’s got a little thing where you cut your finger,” Robertson said. “Really. It’s that kind of vicious stuff, which would be the equivalent of murder.”

Pat Robertson, Right Wing Watch 35 Comments [9/7/2013 4:40:29 AM]
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Submitted By: Zagen30

Quote# 96413

I am saying if you do not think you would ask God to spare your life when face with a terrible disease like aids, I am asking you to allow me to pray that God strike you down with aids, cancer or whatever it takes for you to beg and or grovel for your life. Why? To simply prove the point that there are no atheist when you are staring down the barrel of eternity. That is how I know those 'elite controllers' were healed. Because I know they prayed. Even the ones who thought they were atheist.

I'm not just talking about " a bad day, week, month, or even year." Again the offer is if you think you can, you will stand firm in your beliefs and not beg for mercy/life just say the word, and I will ask God to infect you with something or place you in a situation where you can find out for yourself.

...

Just know I generally get what I pray for.

Drich, Atheist Forums 43 Comments [9/7/2013 4:39:53 AM]
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Submitted By: Doubting Thomas

Quote# 96412

[From a community/support forum for people with autism and their families]

The monstrosity plague is pervasive, not autism. Autism is not a pervasive developmental disorder. It is the expression of a demon, uniquely expressed in us all due to our unique selves, and it is widespread (pervasive) through our selves.

In this time, there are no treatments that impact this thing. It must be assaulted.

We reside in it. A vestige of our true selves, wrestles with it, suffer from it. Most of us know not anything different, nor can we, nor can we imagine. A living paralysis.

The demon emanates through our eyes. And upon resting on the eyes of another, can cause them horror, and convert their own eyes to the demon for a brief instance, before they themselves turn away. We avert our eyes to spare others, and to spare ourselves the heightened experience of our, selves.


underlying, WrongPlanet.net 28 Comments [9/7/2013 4:32:20 AM]
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Submitted By: KittyKaboom

Quote# 96411

[After Judge Malott of NM ruled same sex marriages legal in New Mexico]

Christine Butler of Albuquerque, who opposes gay marriage and attended the hearing, said the judge's ruling violates her rights.

"I don't want to bring my children or go to places and see same-sex couples showing a lot of affection. ... That's against God's law," Butler said.

Christine Butler, Houston Chronicle 41 Comments [9/7/2013 4:31:59 AM]
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Submitted By: MK

Quote# 96410

Alaska...has 6 months of light and 6 month of darkness.
So many things are assumed by the knowledge of such things as this occurrence.
So how bright is the light from the sun does it really reflect off the moon at night?
You see they don't actually know anything when it comes to light and the age as you have described they literally assume. Yes they have many theories not all proven which they use to reach their conclusion but that is it a conclusion not 100% evidence or proof. So we know about the tides, the earth movements and how the moon and sun are said to affect things... But the evidence is lacking...


Give me the point of the light 280 million light years away. Tell me what that source is and do not use the sun or the stars in anyway.
So don't make any remarks about what God may or may not have done since he himself is a source of light. He is the one true light from which everything including our light came. And you have no proof that it didn't. You lack knowledge to support your own claim. Till you can prove your own claims with actual evidence don't tell us what our God can and cannot do. Your science has not yet disproved anything about God. Man assumes he is his own worst enemy.


Sassy, Religion and Ethics 31 Comments [9/7/2013 4:31:45 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 96408

Even I know that theory isn't evidence. The sun may give off light and yet it does not give it 24/7 in one place does it?
When Christ returns everyone will see him at once all around the world.
Do you think God really waited 280 million years for his light to appear.


Sassy, Religion and Ethics 33 Comments [9/7/2013 4:30:40 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 96407

*So essentially you're willing to do anything to, and probably forcibly, convert the non-Christians of the world to Christianity?*

If you could save millions from burning in a lake of fire for all of eternity in their afterlives... would you not do it?

This is not about forcing anyone to do anything. It is about saving people's very souls from damnation... Nowhere is this more necessary than in a part of the world like the Middle East which is rampant with war, poverty, strife, and destructive false gods.

Last time I checked my Bible, it was not Mohammed who died for our sins and came back from the dead... the truth must be spread... at any and all political costs.

The real cost-benefit calculations in politics should focus on the afterlife and not on worldly concerns. For after all, what is life compared to the afterlife? Of what importance is a fraction of existence in the flesh when set against the eternity that is the afterlife?

Should we not try to help the Syrians? Can we responsibly let them damn their own people?

God Kefka, Nationstates 47 Comments [9/6/2013 3:25:59 AM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 96404

The only person I have seen the Left comfortable condemning is Hitler, and at that, not for his tyranny, secret police, or his totalitarian (and totally incompetent) economic policies, but merely for his racism: and they only disapprove of Hitler so that they can call Republicans Hitlers. When real racism rears its ugly head, as when paynim terror-bombers call Jews the sons of apes and pigs, the Left will utter soothing words of moral equivocation, change the subject, and counter attack.

John C. Wright, John C. Wright's Journal 39 Comments [9/6/2013 3:17:14 AM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 96403

Neandertals need blood to survive. They ave the porphyria disease. They aré in all the continents and ave all colors. The cromanion are their food, that s why in the Talmud or other equivalents the goyim or cromanion aré thretaed as food, catle or beasts. The jew doesnt exist, bits a fake word. Were the massai leaders, the aztec kings, the catholic kings of Spain, Francisco Pizarro, Mao tse Tung, the vikinga priests, the al-Huzza or Gabon priests, the sumerian and babilonian priests jews? No. What was the race of Hernan Cortes or Mohammad? Cromanion, andthey were antijehovitic. They were againts human sacrifice, paedophilia, necrophilia and canibalismo. Pizarro was a paedophilonecrofilocanival marrano, a jehovitiv neandertal, a criminal, as his incas or mayas priests friends. Jesús was an antijehovitic neandertal and united “jews” and gentiles.

Cromanion/neandertal hibrid, The Jews 52 Comments [9/6/2013 3:16:53 AM]
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Quote# 96398

we have “Neanderthalic” jews drinking the blood of “pure” Aryan boys (pre pubeset) for the “soul power” it affords, and ability to “see into the future.”

It is always with the “boys” I guess they believe they contain “more power.” In the story of “Sodom and Gommorah” the (probably “Neanderthalic” looking) Canaanites insisted it would be males, even though Lot offered his daughters.

Your semen obviously contains part of your spirit in it, in order to go into the woman and pass onto to the baby.

To be graphic

The reason jews always do the “money shot” in their movies, and the reason sex is almost always used in “demonic ceremonies” is that, if it doesn’t go to the woman, they believe would “enriche” sort on “spirits” lurking around instead…or at least attract or “invite” a worse “intruder”

[...]

This is why a sexual violation is referred to as a “spiritual violation.” Every “pollution of semen” is said to feed a demon.

The Original “spiritual violator” was “Canaan” he sexually violated his “Aryan” Grandad “Noah” on the Ark, who was said to be be “pure in his generation” (pure in his ancestry and in his pure soul power) in order to “assertain” some of that spiritual power for himself. Noah of course incensed at the nasty little mud, made him a “slave of slaves.” believing his “spiritual violation” and “polluting act” would degenerage Noah and his own powers.

[...]

This is probably what the “inside joke” is, at the end of “Trading Places.” when he is put in a gorilla suit, enjoined with, and being sent to a worse world together with, like what happens when 2 faggots get together. And must have been “revenge” for calling them a bunch of “weirdos” as jews have probably been called for the past 5 millennia… due to their “strange practices”

It can be argued that “Canaan” was a “demonic plant” or a demonic emergence from without in Noah’s “pure” ancestry.

truecolors, The Jews 43 Comments [9/6/2013 3:13:09 AM]
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Quote# 96396

[And the puddle says "look how well I fit this hole, it must have been designed just for me"]

Say the puddle was an exact mathematically perfect utterly complex geometric design. And the puddle says "I bet this formed by blind natural chance of some kind". Come on though lets get real here.

Sword of Christ, Atheist Forums 27 Comments [9/6/2013 3:05:35 AM]
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Submitted By: Stimbo

Quote# 96395

The only true conservatives are "Christian Conservatives". Anything less is a "Rockefeller Republican" which can be defined as a "Godless Heathen Republican".

I cannot see a nickel's worth of difference between a Rockefeller republican and a liberal democrat. If they don't change their ways "Hell" is waiting for them both.

There seems to be few Christians on FreeRepublic these days and I give as my evidence the replys on this thread pertaining to Jerry Falwell. God help you.

Bloody Reaper, Free Republic 26 Comments [9/6/2013 3:04:58 AM]
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Quote# 96394

In a discussion about the movie "RatpurePalooza":

Ah yes..'fairy tales'..another cute little mind control trigger word for the deluded.Congrats..you've fallen for another Globalist sponsored lie thats been furiously promoted through our public indoctrination system the last couple of decades.Namely the atheist/evolution delusion.

And why is God and the story of creation a fairy tale you might ask.
Ah well...the public indoctrination system and the white lab coated shills told him man came from primates and that God doesn't exist enough times,and therefore it is now magically true.Witness the true power of indoctrination!

'A lie told often enough becomes the truth' : Vladimir Lenin


The powers that be want to whole heartedly thank you for being so gullible,and falling for their lying propaganda so easily.People like you are what makes their quest for world control such a feasible goal.

dbznarutofan2008, IIMDb message boards 42 Comments [9/5/2013 3:40:10 AM]
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Submitted By: Kuno

Quote# 96390

We have to prepare the Middle East for the second coming of Christ... through whatever means necessary.

Islam must not be allowed to prevail there...

America, as the world's most powerful Christian nation, should do whatever it takes to make this a smooth transition while in the profit benefiting itself.

The world NEEDS USA's leadership and USA should do whatever it can to advance itself and the Lord's Kingdom. Syria is a great place to start...

They don't see the Light... but we can show them.

God Kefka, Nationstates 56 Comments [9/5/2013 3:36:32 AM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 96389

Dear Atheists: How do atoms obtain their fuel?

All atoms throughout the universe require power to maintain their action and motion and to maintain their consistency. This power is specific, regulated, and precisely measured. If everything in the universe came into existence by itself from nothing, then, according to humanist thinking, it only makes sense that all of this power continues to come from nothing...I don't think so.

Anything that exists requires some sort of power source to fuel its locomotion and existence. I've yet to see anything that doesn't get it's power from something else so it only makes sense that the incalculable power of the universe has to be provided by something or someone else. I think the notion that the massive power of the universe is somehow upheld by nothing requires an inordinate amount of blind faith. There is an old saying in Colossians 1:17 that says, "And he is before all things, and by him all things consist".


Scott, Amazon Christianity Forum 49 Comments [9/5/2013 3:35:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Rachel

Quote# 96388

As I've tried to inform you before, I don't understand how anyone can "hate" a homosexual. That's like hating the flu. It would be better if you could just take some medicine and hope it goes away. Still, it looks more like you suffer greatly from heterophobia, as anyone who has anything of a negative comment or appears "straight" to your way of thinking, you sooner or later redact logic and rely on labels, your favorites, “homophobe” and “bigot.” Even when the “shoe doesn’t fit.”

RMHolb, Huffington Post 22 Comments [9/5/2013 3:35:11 AM]
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Quote# 96386

Life devalued in steps

The "right to choose" whether a baby is born or killed could lead that devalued generation to disregard the "old" or "useless" people. (An ironic role reversal) The obvious next step is to purge "undesirables" - those who disagree with the "correct" point of view. Hello "pure race". Hello Hitler.

Dwight Beadle, Aish.com 40 Comments [9/5/2013 3:33:16 AM]
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Quote# 96383

The Saudi government's obsession with the criminalization of the dark arts reached a new level in 2009, when it created and formalized a special "Anti-Witchcraft Unit" to educate the public about the evils of sorcery, investigate alleged witches, neutralize their cursed paraphernalia, and disarm their spells. Saudi citizens are also urged to use a hotline on the CPVPV website to report any magical misdeeds to local officials, according to the Jerusalem Post.

By 2011, the unit had created a total of nine witchcraft-fighting bureaus in cities across the country, according to Arab News, and had "achieved remarkable success" in processing 586 cases of magical crime, the majority of which were foreign domestic workers from Africa and Indonesia. Then, last year, the government announced that it was expanding its battle against magic further, scapegoating witches as the source of both religious and social instability in the country. The move would mean new training courses for its agents, a more powerful infrastructural backbone capable of passing intelligence across provinces, and more raids. The force booked 215 sorcerers in 2012.

Saudi "Anti-Witchcraft Unit", The Atlantic 53 Comments [9/4/2013 2:57:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Aspergus

Quote# 96381

I clearly stated I intend to be a hypocrite? Where was that exactly?
Also, from an evolutionary perspective, why is being a hypocrite a wrong? In a chance universe where we are nothing more then chemical reactions, why bother even making a moral claim? Why is it that hypocrisy should be considered wrong? Who gets to decide that and why?
Let me put it this way, if evolution were true, then any moral claim or thought would just be the result of random chemistry in the brain. But how does someone determine if chemistry is good or bad? An evolutionist doesn’t get angry when vinegar reacts with baking soda and yet that is just random chemistry. You see, evolution can never justify morality, because morality requires a standard higher than ourselves. This is why evolutionist must borrow concepts like right and wrong from Christianity, its just impossible to justify it within their own worldview.

Micah, Jason Lisle's blog 39 Comments [9/4/2013 2:56:27 AM]
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