Quote# 104168

On his radio program today, Bryan Fischer made the case that the government can never endorse any position that is contrary to the will of God because government was established by God specifically for the purpose of carrying out his will, which is why gay marriage can never be legal. As Fischer explained, the entire idea of civil government came from God and therefore all earthly political and legal authority stems from God. As such, the purpose of civil government is to carry out the will of God, meaning that government can never remain neutral on moral issues. "God has called government to take sides in the culture war," Fischer said, "and God is instructing civil government to take the side of that which is right and good. That means government and those who hold government power have a divine responsibility to know the difference between good and evil so that they can reward the former and punish the latter." Thus, when government bans gay marriage, "it is doing a good thing," Fischer said. "It is doing a divinely ordained thing. It's doing its job. It's fulfilling its role as a minister of God"

Bryan Fischer, Right Wing Watch 27 Comments [10/18/2014 5:58:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Giveitaday

Quote# 104164

In a recent post I asked the question which came first--air or lungs, the heart or blood, etc.? Frankten Goethe (presumably a believer in Darwinian evolution) stepped up to the plate and answered each question, ending with "science has evidence for its answers."

Frankten believed that air came first. But if the air came first, where did it come from, and how was it that it had just the right amount of oxygen to sustain human life? While human lungs were evolving how did we breathe? Why did they evolve if life was already sustained without them?

Next he believed that our incredibly complex blood formed before the heart. Why did it do that, and how did it get around the body if there was no heart?

Frankten believed that male and female (for some reason) evolved at the same time, over time. They had to, because they needed each other to survive, as did each of the millions of species, each of which have male and female. Why and how did evolution cause these millions of different species to evolve as male and female, each with different (but corresponding) reproductive parts? How did they reproduce while these parts were supposedly evolving?

Next he believed that water evolved before thirst. We know that we can't live without water, so how did we (and the millions of animals) survive if we had no thirst?

Frankten also believed that food evolved before the stomach. So eggs, wheat, beef, cabbage, potatoes, tomatoes, apples, and a million and one other amazing foods evolved but we couldn't eat anything because the stomach hadn't evolved. Nor had our teeth, tongue, taste buds, epiglottis, esophagus, digestive juices, as well as small and large intestines.

I am amazed at how such an unthinking and unthinkable unproven and unprovable theory has survived for all these years, and that some have the gall to believe that it's even slightly scientific.

Genesis simply and plainly tells us that all creation was brought into being at once by the hand of Almighty God. A that's not a pleasant thought for sin-loving sinners.

Ray Comfort, Facebook 55 Comments [10/18/2014 5:55:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 104160

[Re. the Old Testament genocides]

1. For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God's glorious standard.

2. Obey the LORD your God and follow his commands and decrees that I give you today.

Those two things are mentioned in the bible. If God tells you to slaughter, to love, who are you to say what is proper? For all you know those people were not even human! Think of all the stuff Noah and his family endured with the angels mixing with humans and beasts, think of that! I believe that when God orders the slaying of people, children, that they are abominations! There is no greater truth than God, and if God commands you to do something; it's for your own good or the people's good. Disobeying God's words resulted in death entering the world and caused people to struggle. Imagine what obeying God does to the world? God destroys the wicked, it says right there in the bible. Just because a child looks like a child, doesn't mean it is! Think about during Noah's flood. I'm sure some children looked normal at first and later were disfigured and became more monster looking (Nephilim).

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 30 Comments [10/18/2014 5:49:57 AM]
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Quote# 104158

Darwinism is not only correctly called a theory, it even more correctly called an unscientific theory, a philosophical theory, in that it is not open to disproof by normal scientific means of measurement, observation, experimentation; and it makes no testable predictions. There is no such thing as ‘Darwin’s Law’ parallel to ‘Newton’s Law’ because Darwin makes no predictions of outcomes.

John C. Wright, John C. Wright's Journal 26 Comments [10/18/2014 5:49:40 AM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 104157

Will your END be Christian burial or pagan Druid cremation? The Holy Bible guarantees that everybody is going to die, except for a very, very small number who will still be alive when Christ returns. All the people alive today are just ONE HEARTBEAT from eternity . . . or the end of their world!

[...]

Christian burial prevailed in Great Britain until the beginning of the 20th century. The door was opened to Druid cremation by another deadly Druid named Charles Darwin. Darwin said that man was just an evolved beast . . . so why bother with burial . . . and just burn him like an animal when he dies.

[...]

MI6 Jessica Mitford opened the door to Druid cremation in the U.S.

Except for a very small minority, pagan Druid cremation was never accepted in the United States until the beginning of the ecumenical movement. Before Vatican II, cremation was actually forbidden to Latin Church members.

[...]

The U.S. has over 1,800 crematoriums!!

In the dogmatic Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, modern civilization is completely condemned:

#80. The Roman Pontiff can, and ought to, reconcile himself, and come to terms with progress, liberalism and modern civilization.—Allocution "Jamdudum cernimus," March 18, 1861. (Condemned as error).

Modern crematoriums are one of the major exceptions to this rule. In the past, when Christians were publicly burned alive at the stake, it just produced more martyrs, as the people saw the cruelty and hypocrisy of the hierarchy.

Before Vatican Council II, only 2% of the U.S. population were cremated. After the publication of Jessica Mitford's book, the numbers soared. When most of the Latin Church monasteries closed, it looks like the monks found new occupations as undertakers!!

The largest number of death ovens are located in California and Florida.

Before Vatican Council II cremation was very, very rare in the U.S.

Now over 1,800 of these FINAL SOLUTION crematoriums exist, with the largest number located in California and Florida.

With all the advances in technology, cremating a body is still a slow process. Patents have been granted for mobile cremators that can pull up to your house and save you the trouble of a trip to the crematorium!!

It is beyond belief that "Jews" in the U.S. are not sounding the alarm night and day about these FINAL SOLUTION ovens.

This is even more bizarre because there is a Holocaust Museum in Washington City, and Houston, Texas!!

Why don't we find groups of concerned citizens picketing these crematoriums as they do abortion clinics? After all, abortion clinic babies are also cremated. This is all the more astonishing as the largest number of "Jews" in the world live in the United States.

Patrick Scrivener, Reformation 33 Comments [10/18/2014 5:49:18 AM]
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Quote# 104156

"All this business about goblins and jack-o'-lanterns all comes out of demonic rituals of the Druids and the people who lived in England at that particular time," Robertson said on the show.

He then suggested shifting the holiday toward a more Christian focus.

"I think churches can have Halloween parties," Robertson said. "You can bob for apples ... and turn it into a Christian festival, and that’s what we ought to do. We need to redeem these days, but that day was given over to Satanic things.”

Pat Robertson, Huffington Post 31 Comments [10/18/2014 5:48:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Doubting Thomas

Quote# 104155

Baptist Minister Ron Baity on a federal judge striking down gay marriage ban in North Carolina

“If you think for one skinny minute, God is going to stand idly by and allow this to go forward without repercussions, you better back up and rethink this situation,” Baity said in remarks transcribed by Raw Story. “I want you to understand, that is raw, pure blasphemy.”

Baity also drew comparisons between gay marriage and Sodom and Gomorrah, the cities destroyed by God in biblical stories.

"My friend, we are meriting, we are bringing the judgement of God on this nation as sure as Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed, don’t be surprised at the plagues. Don’t be surprised at the judgement of God," Baity said. “You think Ebola is bad now, just wait. If it’s not that, it’s going to be something else. My friends, I want you to understand, you can’t thumb your nose at God, and God turn his head away without God getting your attention.”

Ron Baity, Huffington Post 26 Comments [10/18/2014 5:48:47 AM]
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Submitted By: Doubting Thomas

Quote# 104154

Forget the chicken and the egg--which came first, the air or the lungs, the heart or the blood, sleep or the night, male or the female, water or thirst, food or the stomach? Stop the confusion. Read Genesis again for the first time.

Ray Comfort, Facebook 28 Comments [10/18/2014 5:46:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo

Quote# 104153

As I said at the beginning, the ability of people to deny the truth about something can be breathtaking. But what's at the heart of such denial? What stops a person from even beginning to think that a particular truth claim could be plausible?

This is obviously a complicated subject, but for many, it boils down to one simple thing: they don't want the matter in question to be true.

Stories are plentiful about people with cancer who ignored the clear warning signs on the side of cigarette packs and the physical symptoms they were experiencing, of young girls who were literally nine months pregnant and who wouldn't believe they were about to have a baby, and even of individuals like David Irving who stood up in a Canadian courtroom and testified: "No documents whatsoever show that a Holocaust has ever happened."[6]

The will to deny truth can be extraordinarily powerful.

When it comes to God, some atheists admit this is the obstacle they face. Thomas Nagel has written: "I want atheism to be true and am made uneasy by the fact that some of the most intelligent and well-informed people I know are religious believers. It isn't just that I don't believe in God and, naturally hope that I'm right in my belief. It's that I hope that there is no God! I don't want there to be a God; I don't want the universe to be like that."[7]

Could Christians be guilty of this — of wanting God to exist so badly they turn a blind eye to truth claims that run contrary to theirs? Of course. This is one reason Christian apologists beat their drum so loudly and call on all believers to critically examine facts as the Apostle Paul demands that we do (1 Thess. 5:21).

Robin Schumacher, Blogos 13 Comments [10/18/2014 5:46:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 104145

Combine disincentives to marry with incentives to not marry, and unsurprisingly, the result is half as much marriage. The solution is simple. End no-fault divorce. End asset-stripping. Ban the pill. Prosecute adultery and punish it with severe fines. Harshly slut-shame non-virginal women.

It will work. We know it works from history. But instead, societal decline, soft totalitarianism and feral children are preferred because women are short-sighted. Imagine what US society will be like when those rates fall to one in two.

Vox Day, Alpha Game 39 Comments [10/17/2014 3:12:58 AM]
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Quote# 104144

How are Christians the most persecuted?

According to the World Evangelical Alliance, over 200 million Christians in at least 60 countries are denied fundamental human rights solely because of their faith. David B. Barrett, Todd M. Johnson, and Peter F. Crossing in their 2009 report in the International Bulletin of Missionary Research (Vol. 33, No. 1: 32) estimate that approximately 176,000 Christians will have been martyred from mid-2008 to mid-2009. This, according to the authors, compares to 160,000 martyrs in mid-2000 and 34,400 at the beginning of the 20th century. If current trends continue, it is estimated that by 2025, an average of 210,000 Christians will be martyred annually. In the last two thousand years of Christian history, about 70 million faithful have given their lives for their faith.

How does this apply to me as an American Christian?

Even here in the United States many of us have sat quietly while our religious freedoms have slowly been taken away from us...We are not allowed to speak in the halls of academic science because Darwinism and Atheism are treated as the official religion. In the public schools we cannot teach or pray or sing about God because our children's minds belong to the state. If we celebrate our holidays in public places we are shut down because our judges have chosen to redefine the Constitution. We cannot speak openly in the media because of political correctness. The sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman is being challenged and we are under attack for defending it. We believe that America is "One Nation Under God" and we are hated for it. As Christians in America, we must stand up for the principles set forth in the First Amendment of our Constitution!

Jon McNaughton, McNaughton Fine Art 38 Comments [10/17/2014 3:12:35 AM]
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Quote# 104143

[This is the actual text of an email threat sent to various groups at Utah State University in response to Anita Sarkeesian planning to hold a conference there.]

This is a warning to all staff and students at Utah State University.

On Wednesday, October the 15th, a woman named Anita Sarkeesian is going to be speaking at the Taggart Student Center. This event is being organized by campus feminists at the Center for Women and Gender Studies.

If you do not cancel her talk, a Montreal Massacre style attack will be carried out against the attendees, as well as students and staff at the nearby Women's Center. I have at my disposal a semi-automatic rifle, multiple pistols, and a collection of pipe bombs. This will be the deadliest school shooting in American history and I'm giving you a chance to stop it.

You have 24 hours to cancel Sarkeesian's talk. You might be foolish enough to just beef up security at the event, but that won't save you. Even if they're able to stop me, there are plenty of feminists on campus who won't be able to defend themselves. One way or another, I'm going to make sure they die.

You've probably heard of a man named Marc Lepine. He was a hero to men everywhere for standing up to the toxic influence of feminism on Western masculinity. We live in a nation of emasculated cowards too afraid to challenge the vile, misandrist harpies who seek to destroy them. Feminism has taken over every facet of our society, and women like Sarkeesian want to punish us for even fantasizing about being men. This is why I've chosen to target her. Anita Sarkeesian is everything wrong with the feminist movement, and she is going to die screaming like the craven little whore that she is if you let her come to USU. I will write my manifesto in her spilled blood, and you will all bear witness to what feminist lies and poison have done to the men of America.

I am a student here. You will never find me, but you may all soon know my name. Feminists have ruined my life and I will have my revenge, for my sake and the sake of all the others they've wronged.

You have 24 hours. Use them well.

Anonymous, Standard Examiner 74 Comments [10/17/2014 3:10:27 AM]
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Quote# 104142

[OT: Why any man would want to get married these days is baffling!]

Marriages commonly end in divorce, and women initiate the divorce ~75% of the time. Women nearly always end up owning things after a divorce which they didn't pay for (i.e., legalized theft), in some cases, even things which were owned by the man prior to even marrying the woman (and not just minor things either, it could be a house, which is usually a person's most valuable possession). And, if there are children, women are usually awarded custody, and men are "awarded" child support payments, despite there being no mechanism in place to ensure the money is spent on the kids, and despite the father no longer having any real say in how the kids are raised. On top of that, you could even end up paying alimony (more legalized theft).

Then there are other bizarre possibilities, such as having to pay child support for a kid or kids that aren't even yours.

Marriage is an extremely risky gamble; one which can cost you hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars and your kids if you lose, and which has no payoff if you "win" (other than getting to keep what you already have).

Marriage made sense at one time, but with the way things are now, I wouldn't even consider it. And there is nothing you can do that is guaranteed to protect yourself either, because there really is no such thing as an "ironclad" prenuptial agreement.

j-curl, IMDb 24 Comments [10/17/2014 2:59:40 AM]
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Submitted By: Kevin Klawitter

Quote# 104127

Putin and Russians know that in order to repopulate their homeland, they cannot allow sexual depravity.

They know that Muslims will over run their country if they do not start breeding, because Muslims themselves usually have large families.

HBO recently ran a documentary that illustrated that the people in general are even taking violent action to prevent the rainbow folks from coming out, and as is usual, this hit piece attacked this stance.

Before the fag bands of England came over to the US in the infamous British invasion of the 1960s, the US populace was completely intolerant of homosexuality, and the birth rate was solid with most adults married with children.

The onslaught of bisexuals John Lennon, Elton John, Mick Jagger, David Bowie, Freddie Mercury, etc... , and all that BS about free love has ushered in the current attitudes.

It is no coincidence that Roe vs. Wade occurred in 1973, when glitter rock dominated, and has resulted in over 50 million murdered babies, mostly all out of convenience.

The US is now a commie hell hole that leads the Western world in abortions, divorce rate, STDs, bastards, drug use, and folks in prison.

Guess that Starman waiting in the sky was just another space invader wishing to destroy Humanity. The music industry today is so damned perverse, it should be no surprise that necrophilia will be the next hip trend, which is still another good reason to be cremated.

jim, Real Jew News 30 Comments [10/17/2014 2:50:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 104124

["You know that the fetus isn't a baby yet when it gets aborted right? It's a mindless ball of cells, like breaking an egg not stomping a chick.."]

You know that Anne Frank wasn’t an adult yet when the Nazis killed her, right? She didn’t have anywhere near the emotional or mental capabilities of a grown adult, or the experiences and wisdom of a senior. Comparatively speaking she was “underdeveloped,” so that must make what was done to her okay.

^ Satire, obviously. The death of Anne Frank was a tragic injustice, just like the 3,500 deaths that happen every day here in the US - the makings of a modern-day holocaust.

Stop the dehumanizing practice of comparing human beings to inanimate objects, and stop drawing arbitrary lines in other peoples’ worth based on their age and developmental capabilities. Nothing justifies killing innocent humans.

betterthanabortion, We Deserve Better 27 Comments [10/17/2014 2:49:10 AM]
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Quote# 104122

In yet another of his moronic rants, Drew Walker begins by challenging Obama’s “worthless, f*cking Muslim goat-raping *ss to lead this country the correct way.” He accused Obama of attempting to take away everything the founding fathers established, and further “challenged” the President to “follow the Constitution, to follow all amendments,” and do what he’s “supposed” to do, “seeing as how you claim you’re an American citizen.”

“Which is bullsh*t,” Walker adds. “It’s been proven time and time again where you’re really from. It’s been proven that your Social Security number belongs to a dead man.”

“So who the f*ck do you think you’re fooling now, Barack Obama — or should I say Barry Soetoro or [a series of clicking noises] your African f*cking native language,” the total “not-racist” said.

"We aren’t here to appease your f*cking Muslim beliefs. We aren’t here to pffh-ugh appease your f*cking African beliefs. We are here to believe in our American Constitution,” Walker said. “Our freedoms. Our liberties. And that’s goddammit what I f*cking support,” Walker continued. “Not you, you piece of sh*t.”
“Obama,” he added, “You are nothing. NOTHING! I can’t even compare you to anything because you are nothing. You’re the lowest form of a f*cking human, and I don’t believe you’re human. I know you’re f*cking old lady’s a goddamn sasquatch.”

“So f*ck you,” he sagely added. “Just get the f*ck out of our country.”

“Walker explained that “us patriots have had enough. You don’t like it? Come visit me personally Obama. We can settle this like men. But I know that you’re too much of a c*nt to do that, you little f*cking peter-puffing f*ggot.”

“Go f*ck your man-wife you piece of sh*t,” Walker concluded.

Drew Walker, Americans Against the Tea Party 38 Comments [10/17/2014 2:48:48 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 104119

You either defend and support the West, which Israel is part of, or you support the east, which is muslim and anti-civilization. If you support and defend the fakestinians, you are anti-civilization and an enemy of the West. There is no longer room for middle ground. There are no crimes against the bloody muslim savages of Gaza and the West Bank, it is called warfare and frankly I fault the Israeli's for half azzing it. Time for a modern day Carthage and call it a day, then you will have peace.

Drakken, The Daily Princetonian 21 Comments [10/17/2014 2:45:56 AM]
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Quote# 104117

(referring to the article on Wikipedia about the geocentric model)

I found this article on Wikipedia and noticed it had misinformation in regards to the Bible, and tried to edit it, but the "free-thinkers" on Wikipedia wouldn't allow a pro-Bible viewpoint, so here it is on my website with minor changes that permit the Bible to speak. I won't say I'm a strong advocate of Geocentrism, but I am open to the idea. I also don't see any issue with the Heliocentric model either. The Bible is compatible with either position. Mainstream science is unsure on which position is correct, and some believe both positions are equally valid with arguments to support either theory. Although Heliocentrism is a generally accepted theory by a majority for our universe, it is not proven.

Brian Price, Valueoftruth.org 23 Comments [10/17/2014 2:44:43 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 104114

Not all viruses are equal. Ebola is one that brings on particularly gruesome symptoms, hence the extra fear associated with it. So if all viruses are created and controlled by God, why did He decide to make some of them so nasty? Because we humans are such a pompous lot, we think that we can do life without God’s help. We refuse to acknowledge our need for Him. Well, if we’ve got it so handled, why are the fatalities of the Ebola virus continuing to climb? If we are so in control, why are months ticking by with no arrest to the spread of this thing? In the news, you’ll find a lot of logical reasons given. For example, there aren’t enough medical supplies and personnel in the area that is getting hit so hard. Well, why not? What’s with the poverty and uneven spread of resources in this world? If we’re such a capable lot, why can’t we learn to share and help each other? If we’re so brilliant on our own, why can’t we contain this thing? We complain that trying to track down all the people who might have come in contact with an infected person is tedious work. But why is it so tedious? Because we’re such wimps, that’s why. We have to constantly sleep and eat or we can’t function. We get fatigued easily. We get annoyed easily. When we’re in tense situations, we get extra huffy and we do sloppy work. We fight with each other and we let things slip through the cracks. And while we’re busy holding conferences and bickering and disregarding safety rules, more of us keep getting sick. At what point will we realize that we’re in over our heads and look to God for help?

Medical supplies and personnel are just a fraction of our problems. We’re selfish little punks who are far too prideful to admit that we have neither the brains nor the resources to stop something that God has started. After all, if we were really as capable as we pretend, none of us would ever get sick. By now we would have found a way to kill off the whole family of Ebola critters. But instead, we’re scrambling to try and come up with some kind of medication that will reverse the symptoms. God is in our laboratories with us, whispering ideas into our minds and controlling how successful our efforts are. But if He should give us an effective cure for this particular disease, will we give Him the glory? No, we’ll pat ourselves on the back. Then God will call upon another one of His viral soldiers to scare us back into an awareness of our limitations.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 29 Comments [10/17/2014 2:44:05 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 104113

Every atheist we have ever encountered through The Refiner's Fire website, has the same lame reasoning when it comes to God and the Bible - and, it turns out, most of them have little or no understanding of the Bible. Even those who proclaim to be former Christians and have some actual Bible knowledge, have misunderstood what they thought they knew - which is blatantly obvious by the things they proclaim.

It was Satan's plan all along to confuse the masses, and he's done a very good job! Atheists are proof of this; Satanists are proof of this; and the myriad "Christian" denominations are proof of this. Hardly anybody picks up the Bible to check the facts for themselves. Atheists claim to "think for themselves" but the bottom line is, they do not; most of them simply jump on the bandwagon of hate (as evidenced by the evil spewed forth in atheist websites), and take the word of others in order to form their own opinions....

Carmen, The Refiner's Fire 24 Comments [10/17/2014 2:43:51 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 104112

Evolutionists generally use five different methods in determining the age of matter: salt content in the oceans, deposition of sediments, rate of soil erosion, disintegration of radioactive materials, and Libby's Carbon 14 experiment. Problems can be found with all of these methods, but the biggest problem of all is the method that they've chosen to ignore--the study of Half Lives.

This is where one figures the current rate of decay or deterioration of something and then figures backwards to see how long this process has been going. For example, if one fills his gas tank up with gas and drives for 100 miles, you can figure that he's driven 100 miles if you know how may miles his car will travel per gallon.

The dating of matter works the same way, except in science this is called the study of Half Lives. Evolutionists tend to steer away from this field of study, for it is very capable of demolishing their religious conviction that the universe and the earth is billions of years old. Let's look at a few examples:

The sun is continuously burning out at a rate of 5 feet per hour. This means that the sun would have been TWICE the size that it is now only 100,000 years ago! Only 20,000,000 years ago, the sun would have been so large that it would be touching the earth! Yet evolutionists insist that the universe, including the sun, is billions of years old.

Because of meteors and meteorites, interplanetary dust falls upon the earth at a rate of at least 14 million tons per year. The evolutionists claim that the earth, the moon, and the various planets are at least 4.5 billion years old. This means that there should be a layer of space dust on the moon over 500 feet thick. However, when the astronauts landed on the moon, LESS THAN THREE INCHES of dust were found. Three inches could have accumulated in less than 8000 years.

Radioactive helium is generated by decaying uranium atoms. Dr. Melvin Cook, a former Nobel-prize nominee, says that this helium is constantly being released into our atmosphere, and that there are currently about a million-billion grams of this helium in our atmosphere. Yet, this is a very small number compared to what it would be if the earth were over 4.5 billion years old. According to Cook's measurements, the earth can't be over 10,000 to 15,000 years old.

The half life of the earth's magnetic field is believed to be less than 1400 years. That is, 1400 years ago, the earth's magnetic field would have been twice as strong as it is today. Only 10,000 years ago, the earth would have had a magnetic field as strong as the sun! WHO KNOWS what it would have been like 4.5 billion years ago!?

James L. Melton, Biblebelievers.com 29 Comments [10/17/2014 2:43:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 104111

Excuse for not following Jesus: There are too many contradictions in the Bible.

There are? Where? Usually when someone uses this excuse they can't even show you one contradiction. They've heard other people say this and use it as an excuse for themselves. There are those who want so much to refute the Bible so they have an excuse to not follow God that they will find anything that even remotely looks like a contradiction and run with it. In reality, there are no Bible contradictions. Some verses might seem to contradict others if taken out of context or the language may be difficult to understand. But consideration must be taken as to where and when and to whom something was said and why it was said. The Bible must always be taken as a whole and verses must be compared to the main message of the Bible. If the Bible was written by mere men and there are real contradictions in it don't you think that sometime in the last several thousand years someone would have corrected those supposed contradictions? The Bible was inspired by God Himself and nothing has been changed because there isn't any contradictions to change. Read the Bible yourself, not with the heart of refuting God but with a heart searching for God, and see for yourself what the real message of the Bible is.

Jan B, Prepare To Go 50 Comments [10/16/2014 3:29:05 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 104109

Ann, perhaps you understand my overall perspective here quite well. Men give to women, women do not give to men. This is a fundamental aspect of gender relations under patriarchy. This is a fundamental aspect of gender relations in general. Now this is not true 100% of course but it is true in general; what men give to women in a practical direct sense is much more than what women give to men in a practical direct sense. This is exactly the way it should be by the way. To expect women to give to men equal to what men give to women is very abusive towards women and destroys women’s ability to contribute to society effectively and hurts children most of all. This imbalance between the genders furthermore is exactly what makes patriarchy necessary for relations between men and women to work well and by extension makes patriarchy necessary for society to work well overall.

Definitely marriage is not “mutual self-giving” as you refer to it. Marriage is idealistic and about sacrifice on behalf of the other. Marriage is mutual generosity, not mutual selfishness. Marriage is mutually beneficial at the emotional and spiritual level but a man is not going to make a financial profit off of marriage, practical benefit to himself is not the point of marriage for the man. A woman very definitely should expect to receive practical benefit from marriage but for the man on strictly selfish terms marriage represents a financial loss. A woman costs money; that is just a plain fact.

Jesse Powell, Secular Patriarchy 30 Comments [10/16/2014 3:28:39 AM]
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Quote# 104108

Many young women dress, talk and behave sexy; but then gets offended when they're ogled (obviously lusted upon) by men with wandering eyes.

Don't dress like a whore if you don't want to be stared at! When a young woman was gang raped in India, many women were outraged that someone said the woman asked to be attacked by the way she was immodestly dressed. We'll, like it or not, that's the way life works! Fleshly Lusts, Which War Against The Soul (1 Peter 2:11 - it matters how people dress). You can argue that you should be able to play in traffic without being ran over by a car if you're dumb enough to be retarded, but you're going to get ran over if you play in traffic. And if you tempt men by walking around sensually attired like a slut, then one day you're likely going to be attacked and be brutally raped, kidnapped or even murdered. But you say, “I have my rights to dress any way that I want.” Yes, and you can defeat the door sensor and stick your head into a microwave oven too if you'd like.

David J. Stewart, Jesus-is-Savior.com 45 Comments [10/16/2014 3:27:43 AM]
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Quote# 104104

The biological warfare commonly referred to as the Black Death carried away millions of the inhabitants of the Eastern Roman Empire....This was not the first such devestating pandemic to afflict the Empire. The wrongly named "Justinian's Plague" wiped out almost half of the population between 541 and 750.

The Black Death, that raged from 1347–1351, was a biological weapon used against the Eastern Empire.

Painful BOILS covered the entire body.

75 million men, women and children died.

Such massive mortality rates were not seen until the Spanish Flu of 1918.

Bubonic plague was not the "wrath of God" but an international example of what Satan did to ONE man—Job:

So Satan went out from the presence of JEHOVAH, and struck Job with painful BOILS from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head (Job 2:7).

This pestilence drastically reduced the population of the Eastern Empire. It went out of control and also ravaged Western Europe:

Lastly, the depopulation caused by the terrible diseases which visited Europe in the century preceding the Moslem conquest aided greatly in destroying the empire. The prevalence of Black Death or Plague killed in the Balkan peninsula and especially in the towns hundreds of thousands and possibly millions of the population. In 1347 this scourge, probably the most deadly form of epidemic that has ever afflicted humanity, made its appearance in Eastern Europe. The cities of the empire contained large populations crowded together, and their normal population was increased by many fugitives. These crowded cities, with their defective sanitary arrangements and poverty-stricken inhabitants, offered a favourable soil for a rich harvest of death. The disease had followed the coasts from the Black Sea, where, says Cantacuzenus, it had carried off nearly all the inhabitants. At Constantinople it raged during two years, one of its first victims being the eldest son of Cantacuzenus himself. Rich as well as poor succumbed to it. What proportion of the inhabitants of the city died it is impossible to say, but, judging by what is known of its effect elsewhere, we should probably not be wrong in suggesting that half the people perished. But its ravages were not confined to the towns, and from one end of the Balkan peninsula to the other it swept the country in repeated visitations and probably carried off nearly the same proportion of inhabitants. Cantacuzenus, in a vivid description of the disease, adds that the saddest feature about it was the feeling of hopelessness and despair which it left behind. (Pears, The Destruction of the Greek Empire and the Story of the Capture of Constantinople by the Turks, pp. 189-190).

Naturally, the Turks were not affected by it

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Old Rome is still trying to end the East-West Schism!!

Old Rome is still trying to end the East-West Schism by using Belarus as an ecumenical bridge to the Third Rome—Moscow.

On April 27, 2009, Pope Benedict XVI and Alexander Lukashenko had a meeting at the Vatican to discuss a union between the Third Rome and Old Rome!!

Belarus is only 400 kilometers from Moscow and ideally situated for a NATO Crusaders invasion of that country.

Patrick Scrivener, Reformation 23 Comments [10/16/2014 3:26:43 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives