Quote# 109592

(after being shown ten proofs of evolution)

Sorry, I must have missed it again. Silly me.
Where exactly did you prove EVOLUTION? Where was your explanation of how the universe began? How life started?
Thanks bud. I always know I can count on you.

Please, take your time. No need to keep rushing to reply. It's just the origin of all things we're talking about. Might take more than 8 minutes to research?! You think?
And then you won't end up listing a bunch of information that wasn't even on the topic at hand. Make sense? You're welcome little buddy.

"We have lots and lots and lots of fossils of species that don’t exist anymore. Lots and lots and lots of them in just the superorder Dinsosauria alone" !? Hee, hee! There's our PROOF (!?) folks!
Lots and lots and lots of fossils! :)

The Last Trump, Christian News Network 25 Comments [6/13/2015 3:36:33 AM]
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Quote# 109590

Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged. It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance. (1 Cor. 13:4-7)

In other words, love is a spineless doormat. Love is when you help people destroy themselves by encouraging them to give in to all of their carnal instincts to use and abuse you. No, this isn’t love at all, it is unhealthy dysfunction. Godly love has boundaries. Godly love says no, it dishes out painful spankings to curb bratty behavior. Godly love doesn’t pretend the past never happened. If you rob your father blind, what should he do: pretend it never happened or change the locks? Don’t fall for the lie that godly love has to live in some land of delusions. When you learn that your husband is doing it with his secretary, godly love announces that he’ll be sleeping on the couch until he shows some sign of sincere repentance. When your headstrong teenager is getting high off of cussing you out and destroying your property, real love takes his toys away and tells him if he can’t scrape up some respect for your authority, he’d better find somewhere else to live. God is not some pansy who lays down in the dirt and invites us to walk all over Him. It isn’t loving to not tell your wife to step off when she’s being obnoxious. Those who promote this rot about “speaking the truth in love” in the Church today would do well to read through the prophetic books and see how the epitome of love spoke to those who were defying His Authority (see Speaking the Truth in Love). Real love most certainly is rude when rude is what is called for. Real love’s patience and kindness are limited. And if we’re talking about how God loves us, love is extremely jealous.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 13 Comments [6/13/2015 3:36:04 AM]
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Quote# 109589

Our Gods are more than just first, They are everything. If we have Them, we do not need anything else. All human relationships are expendable, but if we are rejected by our Creators and kept apart from Them,then we are truly nothing. 

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 15 Comments [6/13/2015 3:35:56 AM]
Fundie Index: 9

Quote# 109583

Bar-Ilan University drew condemnation from the National Student Union after its local gay chapter claimed the academic body had blocked plans to hold a public event in the campus including other gay organizations on June 22.

“Given that fact that the gay chapter in Bar Ilan includes all the complex components of humanity at the institution and acts in considerate and non-provocative ways, we don’t see any reason that they shouldn’t mark gay month, and of course [we] support their actions,” student union head Gilad Arditi told Army Radio.

Representatives of the university’s administration met with the chapter’s leadership to discuss alternatives for the event. Student Omer Mahluf said students dean Professor Uri Nir had suggested the group’s 90 members hold “a respectful meeting in which there are various speakers, such as psychologists and rabbis, who can offer the participants help.”

[...]

According to a report in the Haarez news site, university spokesperson Haim Zisowitz explained that homosexual acts are against halacha — traditional Jews laws — and that as a religious institution, the university couldn’t appear to condone such activities.

“The university has a religious character, and the subject of same-sex relationships is halachically forbidden for men, a clear halachic prohibition,” he said. “Therefore, you can’t allow in a religious university a call to commit an act that transgresses a halachic prohibition.”

To hold such an event, he continued, “is to say that we are in favor — without making a comparison, and don’t get me wrong — but a group that says, ‘We want and believe in pedophilia, in permitting sex with minors, and we want to have a happening’ — every call to break the law is a problem and those are the laws of the Torah.”

Professor Uri Nir and Haim Zisowitz, The Times of Israel 5 Comments [6/13/2015 3:12:41 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 109582

If a person wants to commit suicide, there is little stopping him or her from doing it. What the people advocating these laws are doing is seeking approval for it. They know it's wrong, but want the law to tell them it's okay "because it's legal". This is the same rational used in legal baby murder (abortion) and legal sexual perversion (homosexual "marriage") and legal no-fault divorce (which is adultery). Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's Righteous.

God included healing in the Covenant made through Jesus (the) Christ between Him and Believers so that we wouldn't have to be slaves to physical ailments. Look to God and His Word, Jesus (the) Christ. Don't look to the government for a law to help you in your time of need. Those who have rejected God and His Word are walking a Dark Path and leading as many other people as they can down the same. When people turn away from God's Word, Jesus (the) Christ, they open themselves to all sorts of lies and twisted ideals.


FoJC_Forever, Christian News Network 10 Comments [6/13/2015 3:12:36 AM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 109575

Rick Santorum called into Glenn Beck's radio program this morning, where he warned that if the Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage, it will be an unconstitutional establishment of religion that, when he becomes president, he will not enforce.

Citing the absurd claims made by David Barton on his radio program yesterday, Beck warned that if the Supreme Court strikes down gay marriage bans, the government will strip churches of their tax-exempt status and force them to perform gay marriages, and asked Santorum how he would respond to this if he is elected president.

"This is tantamount to government establishing religion," Santorum said. "When the United States government comes in and says this is what you are going to believe, this is how you're going to practice your faith, this is a new religion. This violates, in my opinion, the Establishment Clause in the Constitution that says that Congress shall make no law with respect to an establishment of religion. If the government goes around and tells churches what they have to believe in and what their doctrine is, that is something that is a violation of the First Amendment."

Santorum said that he holds out hope that the Supreme Court will rule against marriage equality advocates "because there is no way that the left will stop at mere tolerance, they will demand conformity, they will demand it from the church, they will demand it from every institution, they will demand it from businesses and there will be no tolerance to a different point of view on this issue."

But if the Supreme Court does legalize gay marriage, Santorum said that, as president, he will fight it. "If they get it wrong and the consequences are what I suspect they will be toward people of faith," he said, "then this president will fight back."

Rick Santorum, Right Wing Watch 17 Comments [6/13/2015 2:58:02 AM]
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Submitted By: Giveitaday

Quote# 109574


But the underlining cause is homosexuality itself homosexuality is not a permanent state were thos who are homosexuals are born that way no it mainly stems for the persons upbringing such as sexual abuse as a child etc can lead to homosexuality we must not treat homosexuality as a ethnic grouping it must be handled as a disorder not a state of being we must cure not ignore.

evendence.

Richard P. Fitzgibbons, MD, Director of Comprehensive Counseling Services at a sate psychiatric research center, wrote in a Jan. 24, 2014 letter to the World heath organization:

"There is substantial evidence based on years of clinical experience that homosexuality is a developmental disorder.

Every child has a healthy need to identify positively with the parent of the same sex, have same-sex friendships, a positive body image and a confident sexual identity. Homosexual feelings can occur when these needs are not met appropriately.

The adolescent's unmet needs become entangled with emerging sexual feelings and produce same-sex attraction.

Therapy consists in helping male clients to understand the emotional causes of their attraction and to strengthen their masculine identity. It has been our clinical experience that as these men become more conformable and confident with their manhood, same-sex attractions resolve or decrease significantly in many patients."

Lordareon, nationstates 14 Comments [6/12/2015 6:28:22 PM]
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Submitted By: Zyr

Quote# 109568

[About people pointing out Josh Duggar's blatant hypocrisy]

I agree with all that you’ve said, StarFox. In addition, let me add that he confessed and was punished. He asked forgiveness of his victims, and it was given. What more do you want? Should his whole life be ruined, not truly because of this but because many of you don’t like his politics and so are enjoying seeing him suffer. If so, that makes you a hypocrite too.

Kimberly401, Jezebel 33 Comments [6/12/2015 3:20:37 AM]
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Quote# 109564

The article goes on to state,

Sexually, Cyrus said she is “down with” anything. She views her sexuality and even her gender identity as fluid. “I am literally open to every single thing that is consenting and doesn’t involve an animal and everyone is of age. Everything that’s legal, I’m down with. Yo, I’m down with any adult—anyone over the age of 18 who is down to love me,” she said. “I don’t relate to being boy or girl, and I don’t have to have my partner relate to boy or girl.”

Question for her: Why not involve an animal? On what basis does she decide that? Besides, if there’s no God and she’s just a result of evolution, then she is merely an animal anyway. And those she interacts with sexually are just animals—so why not any animals? In other words, she has decided to draw a line for some reason—but what reason? It’s actually because in her heart she knows God exists (Romans 1), she knows she is different from the animals as she is made in God’s image (Genesis 1)—and she has a conscience (as seared as it is because of her sinful rebellion) because the law is written on our hearts (Romans 2).

Ken Ham, Ken Ham's blog 47 Comments [6/12/2015 3:15:44 AM]
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Submitted By: the_ignored

Quote# 109562

[The U.S. Department of State and USAID hosted a global conference on LGBT rights.]

If Sodom gave the world an untrained and unsophisticated homosexual militancy, America can be proud that she has surpassed Sodom, by giving the world an aggressive, trained and sophisticated homosexual militancy.

[...]

God turned Sodom into ashes. America is distinguishing herself by making Sodom global and refined. She is spreading the Sodom ashes around the world to sow a new, bigger and global Sodom.

[...]

To advance the gay agenda, America wants to make the world as wicked as Sodom and Gomorrah were.

[...]

The U.S. is homosexualizing the world by funding and training the international homosexual militancy.

Julio Severo, Barb Wire 28 Comments [6/12/2015 3:15:15 AM]
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Quote# 109561

Homosexuals assert that marriage is constituted solely by love and has no inherent connection to sexual differentiation or the children who may result from conjugal coupling. Furthermore, homosexuals believe that it is the presence of love that not only makes a union a marriage but that justifies government involvement in it.

[...]

If marriage were constituted solely by love and the government were in the odd business of recognizing and affirming love, then why not recognize and affirm all forms of love by granting marriage licenses even to those in loving non-erotic relationships? What possible relevance to the government is inherently sterile erotic activity? What is the relevance of private, subjective, romantic feelings and inherently sterile erotic activity to any public purposes of marriage and therefore to the government's involvement with marriage?

When "progressives" argue that marriage is constituted solely by love and commitment and that it has no inherent connection to procreation, then they have to explain why two brothers should not be permitted to marry. Why shouldn't five people of assorted genders (or no gender) who love each other be permitted to marry? Why shouldn't the non-erotic relationship between BFF's be considered a "marriage"?

[...]

But if reproductive-type sexual activity (i.e., coitus) is irrelevant to government interest in marriage then surely all non-reproductive types of erotic activity are equally irrelevant. And if all sexual/erotic activity is irrelevant to the government's interest in marriage, then logically those in relationships constituted by any and all forms of love must be permitted to "marry."

As homosexuals continually and rightly assert, men and women are objectively and substantively different, and those differences are anatomical, biological, emotional, and psychological. A homoerotic union is as different from a heterosexual union as men are from women. A heterosexual union is different from a homoerotic union in objective ways pertaining to the procreation, needs, and rights of any children that may result from the type of sex act in which only men and women can engage. This type of union matters to government.

[...]

A man and a woman who engage in reproductive-type sexual activty (i.e., coitus) and conceive a child are in reality married because the central defining features of marriage are sexual differentiation and coitus. Marriage has a nature that predates the existence of formal legal institutions. Opposite-sex couples aren't married because the government issues them a license. The government issues them a license to formalize marriage, which becomes actualized through conjugal unions - not through inherently sterile mutual masturbatory activity. Couples who engage in conjugal activity prior to acquiring a marriage license are in reality married. It isn't the government that creates marriage. Government merely recognizes and regulates a type of union that in reality exists. We call that type of union marriage.

Since government does not create marriage, it cannot un-create or recreate it. Thus, legally allowing two people of the same-sex to "marry" does not mean they're married in anything other than a legal (de jure) sense. They are not married in reality because in reality marriage has a nature central to which is sexual differentiation, and without which a union is not marital.

If some silly government officials decided to issue dog licenses to cats because both dogs and cats have fur and four legs, some citizens - it is hoped - would recognize that dogs are in reality not cats because cats have natures that don't change because the government issues a license.

Laurie Higgins, Barb Wire 34 Comments [6/12/2015 3:04:46 AM]
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Quote# 109560

Christian America, religious America I should say — the same thing is true of Orthodox Jews and conservative Jews, although that is a very small percentage of the population — religious America is reproducing well above replacement rate, it’s liberals who are aborting and going gay and anyone with a flair for color, so I think we will have a leg-up in the demographic war. That’s what the left was facing, that they weren’t reproducing enough so they had to bring in the ringers from the Third World to vote for them.

Ann Coulter, Right Wing Watch 23 Comments [6/12/2015 3:04:20 AM]
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Submitted By: Doubting Thomas

Quote# 109557

Homosexuals are a lot like kaleidoscopes; they adorn themselves with seemingly innocent, fun, neon, and vibrant colors that attract children to them (such as a lantern fish attracts their prey), and, just like kaleidoscopes, homosexuals are utterly useless to mankind, and could be completely done away with without the majority of the population even caring at all. Am I right or am I right??

Anonymous Gossiper, Give Me Gossip 27 Comments [6/12/2015 3:03:47 AM]
Fundie Index: 22

Quote# 109555

Almighty God made the heart for people to feel. How could anyone dispute it? How else could this occur? It certainly couldn’t happen merely by chance, by mere spontaneous evolution?

Unless the heart is used to feel and to sense, to have compassion and care – to exhibit kindness – what good is it to the human being?

drkresearch, No Disinfo 27 Comments [6/12/2015 3:01:52 AM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 109554

Teen girls need to be sheltered from the world, seriously. Get rid of that darned television, move out to the country, and spend time together as a family cooking, playing board games, going on picnics, visiting places, listening to old records, et cetera. Don't allow Rock music in your home. Christian families are becoming non-existent because we are all absorbed into modern society. Every home has a TV. Thus, every home sees Hollywood sex and violence on TV. The Christian life is not an accident; it is lived deliberately, intentionally and personally. Rebels always gather in groups. This is why the Antichrist is trying to unite the world before he can come. Whereas Jesus stood alone, and died alone on the cross; the Antichrist cannot stand on his own two-feet. The Antichrist needs followers or else he is nothing.

Our only hope is to abandon the television and all forms of worldliness. I promise you that if you let your teenage daughter or son listen to worldly Rock music and watch television that they will want to stay in their room all day listening to music, or surfing the internet. These are spiritually dangerous and unhealthy things for a teenager.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 38 Comments [6/12/2015 3:01:41 AM]
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Quote# 109549

Last week, after Caitlyn Jenner introduced herself on the cover of Vanity Fair, prominent Iowa talk radio host Steve Deace told Republican candidates that if they wouldn’t speak out against Jenner’s transition, “you might as well just forfeit the 2016 election now.” When CNN’s Dana Bash asked Sen. Lindsey Graham about Deace’s comments in an interview over the weekend, he responded that while he’s “a pro-life, traditional marriage kind of guy,” Jenner is “welcome in my party.”

He then addressed Deace directly: “Here's what I would say to the talk show host: In the eyes of radical Islam, they hate you as much as they hate Caitlyn Jenner. They hate us all because we won’t agree to their view of religion. So, America, we’re all in this together.”

All of this, unsurprisingly, did not go over very well with Deace, who addressed Graham’s comments yesterday during his weekly discussion of presidential candidates with Iowa social conservative activist Bob Vander Plaats, saying, “If you’re not going to defend the idea of male and female, you’re not going to defend any of those other things that you just claimed to be for, Sen. Graham.”

Vander Plaats, an influential force in Iowa Republican politics, agreed, saying that if Graham wouldn’t speak out against people like Caitlyn Jenner, he could never fight radical Islam.

“The thing of it is, you can go out and you can have empathy and compassion for Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner,” he said. “However, you have to be able to stand up and say, but God still created us male and female. That’s the basic point here.”

“That’s our issue with Lindsey Graham,” he added, “is that you can say you’re pro-life, you can say you’re for God’s design for the family in marriage, you can say that he created them male and female, but when you never take a stand on those issues, it’s awfully hard for us to trust, then, that you’re going to take a stand against radical Islam or any other domestic matter or foreign matter that may come up during a presidency. That’s why I think in Iowa not many people take Lindsay Graham seriously.”

Bob Vander Plaats and Steve Deace, Right Wing Watch 18 Comments [6/12/2015 2:59:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Yuu

Quote# 109537

Ah yes.... As it was in the days of Sodom, Lot & Gomorrah, so shall it be when the Son of Man appears.. Come on LORD, come quickly and get this mess cleaned up once and for all... Making same sex flesh lovers acceptable does not make it right.

diandjohn, The Christian Post 18 Comments [6/12/2015 2:55:56 AM]
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Quote# 109536

There is no comparison between the struggle that was led by Martin Luther King and the fight against SSM and gay rights. Dr. King was fighting for inclusion. For the expansion of civil rights to all people. These men seek to do the polar opposite by limiting civil liberities and rights to those that believe only as they do.

MeToo, The Christian Post 22 Comments [6/12/2015 2:55:06 AM]
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Quote# 109533

Imagine if scientists were to put all the time and money wasted on the evolutionary nonsense into research based on the truth of God’s Word concerning origins—I believe we would see tremendous breakthroughs and scientific advancement.

Ken Ham, Facebook 39 Comments [6/12/2015 2:54:13 AM]
Fundie Index: 16

Quote# 109531

Gays really will destroy marriage!

the pair are so concerned about Australia's increasing embrace of same-sex marriage that this week husband Nick declared a bizarre protest on the cover of lifestyle weekly Canberra CityNews: if marriage equality passes, the Christian couple will be "forced" to divorce, yet still refer to each other as "husband" and "wife," cohabitate, have children, and raise their family together.

"Why do this?" Jensen asks the question many readers are likely wondering. "The reason is that, as Christians, we believe marriage is not a human invention," he answers, later adding that "This is what we have to do as Christians who believe in a Biblical definition of marriage, that we can't see that definition change in a way that no longer reflects God's truth."

Yet Jensen says he will clearly be able to remain his wife's husband after divorce, even if the state changes the "fundamental" heterosexual definition of their union. "Many Christians, like my wife and me, as well as people of other faiths, will simply reject the need for the State to recognise their marriage," he explains. "Instead they will look to the authority of their church, mosque or temple."


Nick and Sarah Jensen , advocate.com 27 Comments [6/12/2015 2:49:46 AM]
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Submitted By: Mister Spak

Quote# 109530

Have you ever asked yourself–how can we fight the tide of moral decay that is being crammed down our throats by big business, the media, and the gay & lesbian community? Every day it is something else! Tiffany’s started advertising wedding rings for gay couples. Wells Fargo bank is using a same-sex couple in their advertising. And there are more. But it has dawned on me that we don’t have to do business with them. At the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, we are moving our accounts from Wells Fargo to another bank. And guess what—we don’t have to shop at Tiffany & Co., there are plenty of other jewelry stores. This is one way we as Christians can speak out—we have the power of choice. Let’s just stop doing business with those who promote sin and stand against Almighty God’s laws and His standards. Maybe if enough of us do this, it will get their attention. Share this if you agree.

Franklin Graham, Facebook 16 Comments [6/12/2015 2:48:44 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 109529

The latest social media craze, a spirit-calling game known as "CharlieCharlieChallenge," is causing hundreds of teenagers in several countries to be diagnosed with "mass hysteria" and other unusual illnesses.

In the Dominican Republic, several children were reportedly "possessed by Satan" after playing the demonic playground game. According to the Daily Mail, parents at the Juan Pablo Duarte Primary School in the town of Hato Mayor allegedly claimed that their children had been possessed by the devil.

Deputy headmistress Jovita Jimenez told MailOnline: "Three students were absent from class because their parents believed they were possessed by the devil."


Hato Mayor del Rey Hospital doctor Kelven Guerrero told MailOnline, "It's a craze that has gone too far...It's a very dangerous for a young child to play with contacting the paranormal and diabolical."

"It can cause a great amount to trauma in a young person," he continued. "The entire community had been very disturbed by it. It's caused a lot of discomfort."

He added, "One of the major problems has been that in order to start playing a child must ask permission of Charlie to play. But Charlie also has to give permission for the game to end. There have been many times when he has not done so and it has caused great trauma in the child. It's dangerous for a child to stop playing 'Charlie Charlie' without his permission."

One video from the town, which has since gone viral, showed one student complaining of being unable to sleep because the devil kept bothering him.


various Dominicans, yahoo news 17 Comments [6/11/2015 5:49:35 PM]
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Submitted By: Mister Spak

Quote# 109524

Those who follow Humanism are the ones visiting persecution on those who follow Christ, by punishing the Christians for not engaging in the carnal laws of Humanism.

You see this IS the place to discuss theology. Because our theology is what determines our behavior, yours and mine. There are over 90 verses in the New Testament that command Believers to live in the spirit, not the flesh. To die to the carnal and live in the spirit. The theology of the world says that there is no spirit, only flesh; and that worldly theology is hostile to the spiritual/Christian theology.

If someone chooses to murder another, they cannot complain that they are being economically disadvantaged because they are in prison. Their behavior put them there. Those who follow the rules of the world are prisoners of the world, hostile to Christ and those who follow Him. And now, they are trying to force Christians to accept the worldly theology of all things carnal. Those Believers who don't accept that theology are punished by losing their jobs (CEO of Mozilla; Atlanta fire chief), their businesses, their savings. THAT is being economically disadvantaged. If someone walks into a photography studio and demands that the photographer do a photo shoot of an adult orgy with young children, the 'customers' are not being economically disadvantaged by the photographers' refusal of their request.

Humanism is going to rule the world for many years - that is what He prophesied. We are in the early stages of the last persecution of Believers; it will only get worse. Those who remain faithful to Christ will not just lose their jobs, businesses, and savings. They will be imprisoned and many will lose their earthly lives. But that is no matter, as this life on earth is only a very temporary stage that determines where we will be eternally. The theology of Humanism denies that there is a spirit, or an eternity. Humanism willfully violates the laws of God and claims they do not exist. They will sadly be proven very wrong.

selahgreene, WND 29 Comments [6/11/2015 3:40:29 AM]
Fundie Index: 18

Quote# 109523

Christians created America to be fair and just according to God's Law which states we are all alike in His eyes. Will you substitute evolutionary standards (the strong survive and the weak die) in place of God's standards ? And who decides which standards? How do they decide? Does the victory go to whoever has the most votes? The most guns? The most lawyers? How do you know they have the correct morality? The right ethics?

The point is, a fair and just society without Christianity is a pipe dream. It'll never happen.

MichaelVWilson, WND 30 Comments [6/11/2015 3:40:25 AM]
Fundie Index: 14

Quote# 109522

Willfully blind. Controlling? Forcing? You honestly believe that it is Christians who are trying to control the lives of everyone else, while moon god worshippers threaten any who speak against them with death? You honestly believe that it is Christians who are forcing everyone else to live according to their standards, when it is moon god worshippers who are butchering by the thousands those who do NOT live according to THEIR standards? That goes far beyond insanity. It is pure lunacy.

selahgreene, WND 31 Comments [6/11/2015 3:40:18 AM]
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