Quote# 109386

Ultimately, Transgender ideology, as it is currently being represented, should be viewed as bourgeois reactionism. The bourgeois ideals of 'real man' and 'real woman' must be preserved at any cost (the system of domination and submission depends on it, after all), even to the point of ceding that they are not natural and are entirely social constructs.

What's 'important' now, is that people conditioned to desire conformance with one or the other construct be supported in that desire. We are not permitted to look too deeply at the causes of that conditioning (pervasive drugs and pornography and the resulting decadent culture, the general BDSM economic structure of contemporary capitalism) for obvious reasons.'

"The sheer range of appetites catered to, desires that didn't exist until we invented them" - Littlefinger

Value is socially constructed, but we aren't allowed to ask whether these constructions are good for society or the individuals they affect.

keepitcleanthistime, /r/GenderCritical/ 18 Comments [6/8/2015 2:42:23 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 109374

I would trust a Christian counseling , (working with GOD), way over a secular counseling. (They don't seem to work all that great anyway.) It worked for Josh, now if people will just stop making victims of the Duggars and let them get on with their life, Josh and his family too. That happened many years ago, they have moved on very nicely and live a very Christian life. Which is more than we can say about to many in our society. When ADULTS condone abortion, homosexuality, sex with anyone they want, even when married to someone else, pornography, trash on TV, etc,etc and etc. Who are we to judge a young boy for making bad judgements and repenting and asking forgiveness for them. And making a GOOD life for himself. The law was supposed to protect him from all this media trashing but the law failed this young man and his family. And many are jumping on the band wagon. It is unfair for those who were molested by someone to take it out on Josh. Forgiveness brings a lot of peace. The Duggars have handled this very well. They helped their son while safeguarding the other children. I give them a lot of credit on how they did that. How about we just leave them alone so they can get on with their life in peace. God Bless, Memaw


Memaw, Catholic answers forums 34 Comments [6/7/2015 7:45:00 PM]
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Submitted By: Mary

Quote# 109373

We Are Watchmen is a movement that uses music and message to mobilize American Christians to civic duty. Music. Message. Movement. Just as many churches in Germany sang louder on Sunday mornings to drown out the sounds of wailing Jews in boxcars on the way to the concentration camps, the majority of pulpits and pews in the American churches have been willfully ignoring the stench of blatant evil rising in this once godly nation.

Sixty million innocent babies murdered in the name of “women’s reproductive rights” since the passage of the unconstitutional Roe v. Wade. Our children and grandchildren buried in 18 trillion national fiscal operating debt. Prayer banned from schools, God banned from the public square, religious liberty under attack, as Secular Humanism usurps Christianity as the official religion of the United States. The American churches remain silent, less than 25% of the nation’s Christians vote.

The prognosis is bleak, but there is hope. We are the resistance. We are the voice of the Founding speaking in the contemporary tongue. We are many. We will not be silent. We Are Watchmen. Are you with us?

We Are Watchmen, We Are Watchmen 23 Comments [6/7/2015 7:44:54 PM]
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Quote# 109369

With open-carry legislation back in conference committee following a House vote Wednesday, its most vocal proponent has once again surfaced with a shot at law-makers who might oppose the right to openly strap on a handgun.

On his Facebook page this morning, Mansfield’s Kory Watkins — the Dallas-born, fedora-sporting Olive Garden bartender who’s currently a Tarrant County Republican Party precinct chair — wrote that he’s “calling for the arrest of every elected official in Texas that voted against open carry.” Said Watkins, “They should be arrested, charged with treason and should face a punishment that could result in being hung from the tree of liberty.”

Kory Watkins, Dallas Mornig News 25 Comments [6/7/2015 7:26:09 PM]
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Quote# 109368

"I would like to teach you in 5 minutes everything you will ever need to know about being a psychologist. [ . . . ] I would also like to teach you about the therapeutic counseling technic called (WWJD)"

This young woman was a Christian who knew her Bible well. She raised her hand and asked the professor to address the class.

[ . . . ]

"Just as you know how to speak without knowing the names of the grammatical rules, so too, you already know how to counsel without learning the names of the 12 therapeutic counseling techniques. [ . . . ] Everyone already knows how to counsel, even if they have never learned the fancy scientistic words and phrases that dissect a complete process into partitioned, distinct little irrelevant pigeon holes."

Agitated, the professor interrupts, "care to give an example for the class"?

"Sure" she says, "Yesterday I had a 30 minute "Cognitive-Behavioral therapy session" with my five year old son.... when I sent him to the time out chair."

Her girlfriend in the audience raises her hand and asks, "You mean Cognitive-Behavioral therapy is when we were disciplined by our parents as children?"

"Yes" she answers. "But you won't learn that till 4th year."

"In fact", she continues, "I routinely combine Cognitive Behaviour Therapy (CBT) with Freudian Free Association Therapy (FFAT), when I rattled the wooden spoons in the kitchen drawer as a warning to my disobedient tot. When he hears the sound, he automatically "associates" his last spanking with a wooden spoon and immediately stops the bad behaviour. Wow! Who would have ever thought all young mothers were smart enough to combine these techniques only taught in post graduate psychotherapy courses?"

Steve Rudd, bible.ca 18 Comments [6/7/2015 7:25:43 PM]
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Quote# 109367

1. Just because suicide is a sin, this does not mean we should restrict an individual's free to kill themself. Suicide is a behaviour choice, just like any other sin.
2. No one should ever be committed to a psychiatric ward for threatened or unsuccessfully executed suicide attempts. Statistics show, that if someone has been committed involuntarily to an asylum and they really want to kill themselves, they simply "play nice" to get released, then commit suicide.

Steve Rudd, bible.ca 23 Comments [6/7/2015 1:31:14 PM]
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Quote# 109365

Report: ISIS Fighter Who 'Enjoyed' Killing Christians Wants to Follow Jesus After Dreaming of Man in White Who Told Him 'You Are Killing My People'

It has become a common occurrence over the years for Muslims in the Middle East who have converted to Christianity to claim to have been compelled to do so after dreaming of a person who they believe is Jesus Christ. Now, one militant belonging to the brutal Islamic State that has massacred Christians has converted to his victims' religion after dreaming of "a man in white" with a startling message, according to one missionary's account.

"He told this YWAM leader that he had begun having dreams of this man in white who came to him and said, 'You are killing my people.' And he started to feel really sick and uneasy about what he was doing," Fadely continued. "The fighter said just before he killed one Christian, the man said, 'I know you will kill me, but I give to you my Bible.' The Christian was killed and this ISIS fighter actually took the Bible and began to read it. In another dream, Jesus asked him to follow him and he was now asking to become a follower of Christ and to be discipled."

I found this amazing! It just goes to show that even some ISIS fighters may be in Heaven, yet people who claim they have lived "good" lives won't. It's all about faith in Jesus.

[Emphasis original]

Earl Grey, Rapture Ready 23 Comments [6/7/2015 1:30:23 PM]
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Submitted By: Wilhelm Bye

Quote# 109364

It is clear from the scriptures that God calls upon individual Christians to diagnose and help the mentally ill. Keep in mind that all the major "psychologists" than "psychiatrists" of history were atheistic humanists who believed in evolution and that man was nothing but a pile of chemicals! The tree of psychiatry is rotten down to the root!

Steve Rudd, bible.ca 16 Comments [6/7/2015 1:29:42 PM]
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Quote# 109362

If there is one lesson, just one, from all of Martin van Creveld's books, it is that technology does not guarantee military victory. Here is a vivid comparison that shows why things are looking rather grim for the US military if it is ordered to intervene in the Middle East for a third time in three decades in order to take on the Islamic State there:

1. Let Transgender Troops Serve Openly by THE EDITORIAL BOARD. The Pentagon’s ban on transgender troops is based on obsolete policies and must be rescinded. The Williams Institute at the U.C.L.A. School of Law, which researches gender issues, estimates there are about 15,500 transgender troops serving in uniform.

2. Using Violence and Persuasion, ISIS Makes Political Gains. Amid punishing American-backed airstrikes, the Islamic State militants have advanced in Iraq and Syria using a dual strategy of purporting to represent Sunni interests and attacking any group that vies to play the same role.
Military history clearly demonstrates that the side that executes homosexuals, whether throwing them off buildings or having their fellow soldiers beat them to death, reliably defeats the side that allows its soldiers to dress up and pretend they are women.

Yes, wealth and technology are on the side of the crossdressing military. But attrition, geography, and history are on the side that does not tolerate effeminacy.

It's true that the US military roundly defeated the Soviet-trained, Soviet-equipped Iraqi army twice, the second time largely without a fight. But then, the Islamic State has defeated the US-trained, US-equipped Iraqi army.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 25 Comments [6/7/2015 8:55:29 AM]
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Submitted By: Ibuki Mioda

Quote# 109361

“It’s déjà vu all over again.” In an article at LifesiteNews.com, I read that, in response to the referendum in Ireland favoring homosexual “marriages,” Walter Kasper, a German cardinal of the Roman Catholic Church, said: “A democratic state has the duty to respect the will of the people; and it seems clear that, if the majority of the people wants such homosexual unions, the state has a duty to recognize such rights.” So if the people of Germany voted tomorrow to renew the Holocaust, would the cardinal say the German state is duty-bound to re-open the death camps? That kind of spurious legalism helped goose-step Germany into Hell in the last century. Do German cardinals now propose to do the same to the Roman Catholic Church in this one?

[...]

Surely misleading millions of people into mortal sin will be a spiritual holocaust, with quite possibly eternal consequences. Does Cardinal Kasper think those spiritually deadly consequences are unreal? We learn from another Lifesitenews report that one of Cardinal Kasper’s liberal co-conspirators, Cardinal Reinhard Marx, is “well-known for his support for the ‘Kasper agenda’ and a prominent defender of the ‘value’ of homosexual unions.” Of course, the term “value” is valueless except in the context of some standard of judgment. Given the Catholic Church’s reliance upon natural law as an expression of God’s will, it’s reasonable to assume that both these cardinals still uphold that standard.

So what value does God assign to homosexual relations? For males, the Old Testament scroll of the law calls such relations an abomination (Leviticus 20:13). That term suggests a negative value, as does the death penalty the Torah prescribes for homosexual behavior.

[...]

Finally, when he asserts that it is right to follow the majority’s will when they purport to approve as lawful what God condemns as odious under the law, Cardinal Kasper is following the trendy idolatry of self-willed freedom, wrongfully abused, that now defames the name of right. By doing so, he casts away God’s standard of natural right. And he accepts an understanding of sovereignty that even pagan philosophers rejected. A sovereign act must always take account of the common good. When that good is not being respected, sovereign authority is not in play.

In such a circumstance, the will that purports to wield the sovereign power is not an exercise of sovereign right. It is a wrongful abuse of power that people of good will have, in principle, a duty to resist, not to obey. And this is true whether the specious exercise of sovereignty is that of the Irish people, the U.S. Supreme Court or the people of the United States, however assembled.

Allan Keyes, WND 16 Comments [6/7/2015 8:55:20 AM]
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Quote# 109360

[On the Irish same-sex marriage referendum]

Ireland is by majority Roman Catholic and therefore a glowing example of the hypocrisy of Rome. Like abortion, they only claim to be against it so as to have a political foot in the doorway. And the present Jesuit Pope is pro-homosexual. And so it is no surprise that Ireland would be the first nation to do this, seeing how they know their religious leader won't object. It could be that if a Roman Catholic nation was to pass this law first, then the Supreme Court could build on that foundation so as to bypass American opinion with the excuse of uplifting global opinion as their reasoning behind the law. A sort of show of solidarity for the poor persecuted homosexuals. And this all happens as over 200,000 Christians are tortured to death annually. Seeing how the how the Vatican as well as their well scripted media cohorts here in the US are pushing that same agenda forward, one has to assume that it could be set in stone.

Cadasilva, WND 15 Comments [6/7/2015 8:55:08 AM]
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Quote# 109359

The Liberal wing of the Catholic Church (and liberal protestant denominations) have missed the point for the true reason of the church, which is not "social justice" or to make a man-made utopia on earth, but to address spiritual issues, mainly the saving of souls through Jesus Christ. Church help for the poor is SECOND and does not involve revolution (sorry, for those who believe in "Che Jesus" he never existed). What good does it do to just feed a person and not care about their soul? The Liberal Church is concerned with wealth redistribution and human rights - the right to do evil. Contrary to popular belief, Jesus never demanded this; he even told a man who insisted that his brother share the inheritance, "Who made me a judge over you?" and "beware of greed". He never demanded that Rome vacate Israel or stop executions. He reached out to people and addressed their SPIRITUAL issues, telling them to REPENT and that their sins were forgiven when they did (which smashes the view of liberals that Jesus ate with sinners because he didn't see anything wrong with what they were doing).

Jesus was abandoned by most of his followers because he ended up not being "Che Jesus". They wanted Rome overthrown and to be fed loaves and fishes (entitlement is nothing new). When they saw that it was all about spiritual issues, they turned on Him like a pack of hyenas, demanding that Barabbas, their hero, be set free and Jesus Crucified. Of course true believers know that Jesus' death was an atonement for our sins and not a surprise to Him or a tragic accident.

It is sickening to see the "Church" continue to compromise on sin, and insist we concentrate on "social justice" issues instead.

Cheryl Danver, WND 28 Comments [6/7/2015 4:10:47 AM]
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Quote# 109358

Atheism is a political movement and the self-deluded “elites” that drive the forces of this machine want nothing more exceptional than power and control. Let’s not ascribe anything noble to godless fanatics of political power and control.

While Muslims and death threats are as common as blood flowing in the “Islamic world,” let’s keep things in perspective. Atheists are not in this for tolerance and diversity. They are out for complete control. The Humanist movement that has done just that since the beginnings of the 20th century is proof that atheism is a totalitarian belief system that has only been slowed slightly since the Russians showed us what’s up with it.

Be Brave, Religion News 21 Comments [6/7/2015 4:10:43 AM]
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Submitted By: Reckoner

Quote# 109355

Homosexuality is wrong in so many ways that one has trouble knowing where to begin. It’s wrong socially because it violates the universal and primal purpose of human sexuality which is the procreation and nurturing of children. This reason alone should be enough to refuse it marital status. The simple fact that two men or women cannot inherently and naturally produce a child is the basic reason that should deny them the status initially created and promoted to protect this act and the family that comes from it.

Homosexuality is wrong socially because it engenders basic anti-person and social problems. What the Gay lobby doesn’t publicize is that their group has the highest incidence of depression, drug abuse, sexually transmitted diseases, mortality, and suicide rates than any comparable heterosexual group. Of the less than three percent of the American population that is actively and openly Gay, only a tiny fraction is interested in permanent union. However, those who want to marry legally have received an enormous amount of publicity. The rest are using this debate as a method of legitimizing an unhealthy lifestyle that ultimately creates a burden on our social services and families who must deal with the negative effects of their choices and the de-stabilization of our way of life.

Homosexuality is wrong morally and spiritually. Every major religion condemns same sex activity. What is interesting is that even pagan nations of old (i.e. Assyrians) had specific prohibitions against it. As Christians we read in both the Old and New Testaments the clear condemnation of this sin. Leviticus 18:22 refers to it as, “… detestable;” Romans 1:26-27 calls it, “… unnatural… indecent;” Paul the Apostle says that those who practice this will not inherit the kingdom and are doing ungodly and unholy things – 1 Cor. 6:9-10; I Tim.1: 10.

Many religious leaders and teachers are changing their once held biblical views on homosexuality but can only do so by twisting clear passages to say what they don’t say (i.e. Paul condemned homosexual prostitution, not sex between two consenting males), or they deny that the Scriptures are inspired (i.e. Paul was writing from cultural prejudice against homosexuality). You can justify and approve of homosexuality and same-sex marriage but you can’t do it using the Bible as your inspired support or justification. When religious leaders do this, they are on their own.

[...]

I hope that the grass roots movement against this foolish and immoral legislation will gain strength so that the American people will speak out against it. I hope that we in the churches of Christ will not stand by silently as ungodly laws are forced upon us and cause the accelerated decay of our national moral fabric. Once homosexual marriage is widely recognized, there will be no reason to prohibit adoption, daycare, ministry and any number of key social functions for them to exploit in their effort to make homosexuality a normal, legitimate, acceptable lifestyle that cannot be challenged in any way whether it be legally or morally. When that day comes, what I am writing and saying will be a crime and you will be liable for reading it or sharing it.

Matt Mazzalongo, bibletalk.tv 20 Comments [6/7/2015 4:08:24 AM]
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Submitted By: TimeToTurn

Quote# 109353

Gay Wrongs *Gay marriage is
NOT okay *Gay Marriage should
not be legalized, not only in the United States Of America, but anywhere on God's green Earth. Thesis Talking Point 1. Homosexuality is against God * "And God blessed them and God said unto them, Be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the Earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish in the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the Earth."-Genesis 1:28 *Homosexuals physically cannot obey this commandment *Genesis 2:24- "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife, and they shall be one flesh." *God made Adam (sixth day) *God made Eve *"Be fruitful and multiply" *Impossible for homosexuals *Made a woman for company,
not a man GOD LOVES EVERYBODY *God does not love the sin they are committing *Change their ways *Romans 5:8- "But God commendeth his love towards us in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." Talking Point 2. Negative health effects of homosexual marriage *STD'S have increased because of the increasing rate of gay men * The Disease Control and Prevention centers (CDC) study using bisexual and homosexual men diagnosed with Human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) concluded: *21.6% - 100 to 500 sex partners *If just one had HIV...so would the others! AIDS * There are over 60,000 males with AIDS just in the USA *64% - men who have sex with men and inject drugs together *50% of that is from young homosexuals The institute of medicine reported- *Lesbians have a much higher risk of getting cervical cancer and breast cancer HPV (Human Papillomavirus) *Common in over 90% of homosexual HIV-positive men *HPV is... A disease with more than 70 different types of viruses. Theses viruses can cause:
-genital warts
-papillomas
-anal cancer Talking Point 3. Gay marriage negatively effects children Birth Rates Stable countries birth rate : 2.1
Germany: 1.4
Greece: 1.3
Spain: 1.3
Italy: 1.3
France: 2.0
*Keep declining * * 34% of lesbians raise children
* 22% of "male partners" raise children
* Fatherless
*Girls without fathers have a higher risk:
- Early sexual activity
- Pregnancies before marriage
* Needs both parents
*Children of homosexuals will be different
* Won't receive the same benefits growing up Unusual Fact *AIDS originally stood for a term called “GRID” which means, Gay Related Immune Deficiency
*Disease that was only diagnosed within homosexuals and still today has only slightly spread to the heterosexuals also Conclusion Gay marriage is a sin against God, has horrible health effects, and negatively effects children. Gay marriage should not be legalized.

Ashton Reese, Prezi 19 Comments [6/7/2015 4:04:58 AM]
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Submitted By: TimeToTurn

Quote# 109351

During his show on Wednesday, Robertson read a letter from a concerned mother who wondered if her son’s mental illness was “God’s punishment” because she had an Ouija board in her house when he was young. Robertson replied that it’s possible because she invited demons into her home with the game, like a women he once heard of who watched porn and became possessed:

“I don’t know if God’s punishing you, but you can open the door to demons. There was one lady I heard about who was demon possessed, the demon was being cast out and the demon said, ‘I had permission.’ And permission was that this particular person had gone to a x-rated movie and had gotten all these sex things….so you gave the demon permission to come into your home when you had the Ouija board.”

Pat Robertson, The 700 Club 20 Comments [6/7/2015 4:04:17 AM]
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Submitted By: Doubting Thomas

Quote# 109349

I could have put this post up at Capes 'n' Babes, but that's not what Chris Flick's website is for, and he'd have every reason and right not to post it. He has the site mainly to sell his artwork, and my countercultural Catholic argumentation could reasonably alienate his customers. I couldn't wish that on him. I'm going to ask my two readers not to go and gunk up his site with a flamewar, either.

But as to why that's not good, I think we could learn from the lesson of Chesterton's Gate -- the idea that, before we go to reform an institution, we ought to understand why it is the way it is. I don't think gay marriage advocates have any understanding of why marriage was the way it was. Nor have they found or built any structures to do what marriage was originally meant to do.

The function of marriage has historically been to protect the children which are its natural result. It provides them with a bond with their father, and a incentives for him to protect them. If your spouse dies, then finding and marrying a replacement can be better for your children than staying a widow/er, which is why it's reasonable to allow people to remarry after the death of a spouse. Even if a woman has aged to menopause, it's easy to see how her entering marriage can be good for any children involved.

The giant blows against marriage were contraception and divorce. Divorce especially does grave harm to children, and remarriage is very hard on them, probably far harder than in cases of widowing. Much worse is when Mom just shacks up after divorcing Dad. Children are at greatest risk of sexual assault from mom's live-in boyfriend.

Homosexual marriage does not naturally result in children. Its advocates, like those for divorce and contraception, seem to either not consider the harm that their pet project does to children (which would include being in denial about it), or may actually hate children. Their arguments against these concerns vary from "What could it hurt?" to "Shut up."

I really don't think the SCOTUS considered these things when they struck down DOMA. I think there's compelling government interest in protecting marriage -- doing so gives children the best chance going forward that they can have. In addition to affirming DOMA, they could consider doing away with contraception (which promotes infidelity, which is ALSO very bad for the children) and divorce (which is the result of contraception, and even worse for children). They are far more important than the easy access to the benefits of marriage for gays (and to which they have alternative means of access).

Arkanabar Ilarsadin, Arkanabar's Eclectic Rants 16 Comments [6/7/2015 3:56:04 AM]
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Submitted By: AJ Williams

Quote# 109346

The “EAGLES” Rock band, who are a combination of Rock, Country and Folk music, were formed in 1971 in Los Angeles. In their new 2:33 hour video documentary titled, “HISTORY OF THE EAGLES,” the band's co-founder and lead singer, Don Henley, openly calls Christians “LUNATICS” for claiming that the Eagles 1976 hit song (and album of the same name), “Hotel California,” promotes Anton LaVey and his Church of Satan. According to Mr. Henley, the song is simply about innocence becoming experienced.

...

I DON'T recommend that anyone buy the “HISTORY OF THE EAGLES,” because somewhere in the 2:33 hour documentary they show a totally butt-naked woman (one of the fans from the audience) get up on stage and she bends over with her wiggling rear toward Glenn Frey. They're loving every minute of it. She's wearing no underwear or bra, nothing. It is wickedness! This is serving the Devil. The Eagles are serving the Devil, Satan!!! I'll triple-dog dare you that Don Henley would never call a beautiful naked fan on stage a “LUNATIC,” like he does Christians who expose Rock's wickedness. Are we really lunatics as Christians for telling the truth about the Church of Satan? Is it just a coincidence that the name of the street upon which the Church of Satan resides is “CALIFORNIA STREET”???!!! And if that bald-headed man is NOT Anton LaVey, then why would you have a bald-headed man that looks like Anton LaVey in the balcony on your album cover? Hmmmmm?

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 31 Comments [6/7/2015 3:20:59 AM]
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Quote# 109345

Until today I wasn't aware of fstdt.com ("Fundies Say The Darndest Things") where Atheists and skeptics can have a safe harbor in which to ridicule that which they take out of context. Actually there is a link to context, but no one seems to have used it in my case. It's the sort of snake pit where the target du jour is countered with comments like "asshole", and the standard logic errors which they insist are the logical answers to the "idiot" they are trashing.

It pretty much confirms my suspicion regarding the maturity level of the common Atheist (and I continue to capitalize that which is a religion, replete with churches, preachers, rules not to be disobeyed (political correctness enforced with ridicule and excommunication), icons (Darwin, Dawkins), and recently found - the Atheist religious moral document source: Harry Potter.

Stan, Atheism Analyzed  40 Comments [6/7/2015 3:20:48 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 109344

A new Christian book for children, The Cage: A Young Children’s Guide to the Biblical Teaching on Hell, by C. Matthew McMahon, Ph.D., Th.D., was published this month by Puritan Publications of Tennessee. McMahon is an American Calvinist Reformed theologian, adjunct professor at Whitefield Theological Seminary, and editor of A Puritan’s Mind, which the publisher’s promo describes as “the largest Reformed website on the internet for students of the Bible concerning Reformed Theology, the Puritans and Covenant Theology.”

The “tastefully illustrated” book is “aimed at children 5 to 9 years old.” The dedication page gives a taste of the dark things to come:

“But I will warn you to whom to fear: Fear him who, after he has killed, has authority to cast into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him!” (Luke 12:5)…

“Do not withhold correction from a child, For if you beat him with a rod, he will not die. You shall beat him with a rod, And deliver his soul from hell,” (Proverbs 23:14).

Those “tasteful illustrations”? Take a look at just one page:



Here are the book’s main lessons about hell for small kids:

Hell is not a place where you can have fun. Hell is not a place where friends gather to hang around.

Hell is the furnace of fire where people go who die in their sins without being saved by Jesus… The people in hell are there forever, without any possibility of relief by the mercy or pity of God.

…

Who goes to hell? All people born with Adam’s sin in them go to hell if they don’t trust in Jesus… teenagers go to hell, and even little children can go to hell. Remember, little children are not too little to go hell.

Yes, this man wants parents to teach small children that Jesus will torture them in fire forever if they don’t “trust” him. I realize this is nothing new, but I will never stop being shocked by it. And now these people have the Internet and e-books to push their evil dogma.

In a “Note to Parents” in the back of the book, McMahon writes:

Some parents may be thinking that this kind of exhortation to children will give little ones horrible nightmares… It would be better for them to have nightmares now while you teach them about the realities of hell… than to wind up in the reality of the nightmare that is hell. To the Christian parent of young children, I plead with you to… teach your children about hell and the power of God’s wrath. Teach them that Christ is their only hope… Teach them that they are locked in a spiritual cage and that it dangles over the fires of hell.



Profoundly disturbing. And not just for teaching children that “woe” is a verb. The book ends with “Bible Verses Concerning Hell,” including these:

“For a fire is kindled by my anger, and shall burn to the lowest hell; It shall consume the earth with her increase, And set on fire the foundations of the mountains.”

“Let death seize them; Let them go down alive into hell.”

“And if your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body should be cast into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.”

“Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet… These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.”

C. Matthew McMahon Ph.D Th.D, Patheos 32 Comments [6/7/2015 3:20:42 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 109338

Robert Palmer, contributing editor to Rolling Stone... advocate and lover of rock music, writes, in Rock & Roll An Unruly History: "Bata drums [drums used in voodoo], sacred to the Yoruba people of Nigeria and Cuba... provided a template for the inner rhythms of rock and roll... serve as conduits for spiritual energies, linking individual human consciousness with the gods... the drum rhythms that make rock and roll can ultimately be traced back to African music of a primarily spiritual or ritual nature. In a sense, rock and roll is a kind of 'voodoo'... Drums are used in "voodoo" possession... drummers tap out their rhythm patterns like signals to the realm of the gods, inviting and enticing them to come and POSSESS their devotees."

unknown, Albatrus 20 Comments [6/6/2015 6:20:32 AM]
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Quote# 109337

Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the psaltery and harp.
4 Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs.
5 Praise him upon the loud cymbals:praise him upon the high sounding cymbals. Psalms 150:3-5
With all the many references to musical instruments, there is one instrument that is NEVER mentioned! The DRUM! Why is that? The drum was a very common instrument in Egypt and the lands around Israel. And yet the DRUM is NEVER mentioned in a King James Bible.

unknown, Christian Rock Apologetics 41 Comments [6/6/2015 6:20:16 AM]
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Quote# 109334

Dear International Olympic Committee,

It has recently come to light that gold medalist Bruce Jenner is in fact transgender, and therefore, identifies as a woman. We congratulate Ms. Jenner on these new developments and wish her the best. However, this creates somewhat of a problem as Ms. Jenner (as talented as she is) claims that she has always believed herself to be truly female, and therefore, was in violation of committee rules regarding women competing in men's sports and vice versa. Therefore, it is with a heavy heart that we must ask whether or not it is proper that Ms. Jenner should retain her olympic records in light of this, as we must now either claim that Bruce Jenner and Caitlyn Jenner are two entirely different people (which we know is not true), or that Bruce Jenner was, in fact, a woman participating in a men's event. It is only fair to all involved that women receive their credit as champions of the Decathalon and that the men racing Ms. Jenner are not expected to compete with a superior, streamlined being such as herself.

Jennifer Bradford, Change.org 28 Comments [6/6/2015 6:14:47 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 109332

Scientists across the globe are confirming that the data they are finding indicates that there is nothing random or “evolved” about the universe. It’s actually shaken some of them up to discover just how “fine-tuned” our universe is. In fact, all indicators point to a match with the order of events as listed in the book of Genesis.

The Bible for thousands of years has told us that creation began SUDDENLY when God proclaimed, “Let there be light.” Further, the Bible repeatedly states that God has “stretched out the heavens.” Interesting choice of words as it turns out. Scientists today are confirming that our universe indeed had a BEGINNING, a SUDDEN explosion of LIGHT followed by rapid EXPANSION. Yet, only a short time ago Albert Einstein and his peers, the greatest scientific minds of the twentieth century, were CONVINCED that the universe was a constant. That it just always WAS. And so the scientific "crowd" scoffed at Bible believing Christians with their ridiculous Creation account.
Until Hubble came along and with scientific measurement CONFIRMED the Biblical account of Creation. Einstein and the greatest minds of the twentieth century, WRONG. Bible RIGHT.

Only the truly ignorant and uneducated continue to claim "Creation" is a myth, with absolutely no scientific proof to support. Creation requires faith to believe in, not proof".
Time to catch up with modern science, you God haters. Time to catch up to the BIBLE.
Your ignorance just makes you look foolish.

The Last Trump, Christian News Network 26 Comments [6/6/2015 6:13:09 AM]
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Quote# 109330

To who this may concern THESE ARE THE TIMES THAT TRY MENS SOULS . Common sense ,history , natural rights , and a real sense of knowing that GOD is going to show those who believe in natural wrong HIS WILL . Just hope I am not standing near any of you fools who believe GOD is not in charge .And to the fools who believe that states cannot leave the union because of history of our first UNCIVIL WAR I for one feel that lesson will not be repeated . Men and woman have something real we would be fighting for NATURAL RIGHTS you on the other hand fight for well what ever goes, a poor cause if their ever was one you may get some of your evil to rally to that but your ideas are like the germans and the tojo japs a death cult ours on the other hand believe in LIFE LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPNESS . We do not hate you we love the sinner hate the sin , but don’t doubt our resolve to live free of your evil .

mike day, WND 23 Comments [6/6/2015 6:12:40 AM]
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