Quote# 111758

There are never any guarantees that the prayer of faith WILL heal the sick, but we'll never know if we don't obey God by at least trying, through prayer. I wish I could say that doctors are a gift from God, but most today are part of an elaborate racket involving the greedy pharmaceutical industry, which pushes needless and dangerous drugs like candy on the American public. Doctors today are nothing more, in many cases, than legalized drug-dealers. It's a massive scam! Although there are legitimate medical treatments, of course, the great majority of drugs, tests and procedures are primarily intended to make billions of dollars each year for the medical industry. What's best for the patient is a secondary consideration. This is why when you go to a doctor, you end up being sent through a circle of specialists, who all work together and make big bucks off your inconvenience. They abuse the insurance and milk it for everything they can. Effective, we are Guinea Pigs in America! But this is beside our topic in this article.

The lesson to be learned here as a born-again Christian is to ALWAYS PRAY ABOUT EVERYTHING!!! If we fail to pray, then we may end up prematurely dead like king Asa. If Asa just would have prayed, God would have healed him and spared his life.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 15 Comments [8/13/2015 1:50:22 PM]
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Quote# 111754

"To deliberately mislead is as morally repugnant as outright lying. One more example of the moral degeneracy of creationism."

Your statement is true on theism, but not on atheism. On atheism, there is nothing whatsoever wrong with lying. When you use words like "repugnant" and "degeneracy," you are pointing to objective moral values and duties. Such values and duties just do not exist at all on atheism, and your "pope" and "cardinals" agree with me here:

“In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won’t find any rhyme or reason in it, or any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference… DNA neither knows nor cares. DNA just is. And we dance to its music.” (Richard Dawkins, River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life (1995))

“Let me summarize my views on what modern evolutionary biology tells us loud and clear — and these are basically Darwin’s views. There are no gods, no purposes, and no goal-directed forces of any kind. There is no life after death. When I die, I am absolutely certain that I am going to be dead. That’s the end of me. There is no ultimate foundation for ethics, no ultimate meaning in life, and no free will for humans, either.” A-theist William Provine

“The position of the modern evolutionist is that humans have an awareness of morality because such an awareness of biological worth. Morality is a biological adaptation no less than are hands and feet and teeth. Considered as a rationally justifiable set of claims about an objective something, ethics is illusory. I appreciate when someone says, ‘Love thy neighbor as thyself,’ they think they are referring above and beyond themselves. Nevertheless, such reference is truly without foundation. Morality is just an aid to survival and reproduction, . . . and any deeper meaning is illusory.” (Michael Ruse, “Evolutionary Theory and Christian Ethics,” in The Darwinian Paradigm (London: Routledge, 1989), pp. 262-269).

"no purpose, no evil and no good," "no ultimate foundation for ethics, no ultimate meaning in life," "ethics is illusory"

There you have it - that is YOUR world. You don't get to borrow the existence of objective moral values and duties from some unknown "god" - they do not exist to you - they are merely flavors of ice cream. When you make objective moral claims, you are actually acknowledging the existence of an Objective God - for which I thank you very much! :-)

WorldGoneCrazy, Christian News Network 34 Comments [8/13/2015 3:26:01 AM]
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Quote# 111752

This "church" is no different than the many "churches" who have been denying Truth for centuries. This denomination arose due to people wanting something different than what the Holy Spirit teaches and provides. The first Apostles warned of these things coming, and they manifested as the Holy Spirit revealed. While the acceptance of homosexuality or being complacent about its existence is evil, there are many, many false doctrines practiced by organizations and individuals in the world today and have been for a very long time. The tares multiply at an alarming rate, while the wheat continues to grow unto God.

The Time is short.

FoJC_Forever, Christian News Network 18 Comments [8/13/2015 3:25:49 AM]
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Quote# 111746

HOW MS MEDIA RIDICULE DRAGONS

ANIMAL PLANET "MYTHIFIED& DEBUNKED" DRAGONS and OUR STATS WENT DOWN!
MAIN STREAM MEDIA BRAINWASHING MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! THE LEMMINGS FALL IN LINE!
They don't want people to research these things, because The-Powers_That-Be pushed Evolution on us to destroy Western Civilisation! Their scientific figureheads took the money to lie &over up the truth &now their academic following all believe we "CAME FROM A ROCK!"

WITH HOAXES!
(EXCERPT ARTICLE FROM THE TELEGRAPH JAN 2004)

"A pickled dragon that looks as if it might once have flown around Hogwarts has been found in a garage in Oxfordshire. Yesterday the baby dragon, in a sealed 30in jar, was in the office of Allistair Mitchell, who runs a marketing company in Oxford. He was asked to investigate by his friend, David Hart, from Sutton Courtenay, who discovered it. A metal tin found with the dragon contained paperwork in old-fashioned German of the 1890s."

"All they had to do in this case, which turned out to be another debunking hoax, to find out whether it was real or not, like alternative news www.rense.com noted: "A one minute X-ray will answer the question instantly. lf there is NO X-ray taken, we have a cover up. In all likelihood, an X-ray analysis has already been done..." --Editor Rense.com"

Well, it turned out it was a hoax by a Media company and a Media prop-making company. The Smithsonian Institute is actually rumored to possess real dragon remains. Many real proofs & artifacts are lying around locked up in vaults somewhere, and some were actually destroyed by Evolutionary hijackers of Science!

And how many genuine sightings have been denied and shoved from the frontpages of the hijacked media. They should throw open the Smithonian Institute and archives of ALL "Natural" History museums everywhere, to bring to light hidden proofs that Dragons were & are still ALIVE today and aren't"Dinosaurs!"

WELL, ENJOY THE PICS.
HOPE YOU HAVE A NICE PARADIGM SHIFT!
LET'S START WITH SOME HISTORY:

[...]

BRITAIN now called WALES

The early Britons, from whom the modern Welsh are descended, provide us with our earliest surviving European accounts of reptilian monsters, one of whom killed and devoured king Morvidus (Morydd) in about 336 BC. We are told in the original early Welsh account (which Geoffrey of Monmouth translated into Latin and which still survives in spite of modernist claims to the contrary 4) that the monster "gulped down the body of Morvidus as a big fish swallows a little one." Geoffrey wrote of the monster under its Latin name, Belua.
Morvidus, by the way, was a merciless cruel tyrant. So he seemed to reap what he dished out.

OF COURSE DARWINIST/CULTURAL MARXIST GATEKEEPER WIKIPEDIA CALLS KING MORVIDUS MYTHICAL! HA!
WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU EXPECT...

Peredur, not the ancient king of that name (306 - 296 BC), but a much later son of Earl Efrawg, had better luck than Morvidus, actually managing to slay his monster, an addanc (pronounced athanc: variant afanc,) at a place called Llyn Llion in Wales.
At other Welsh locations the addanc is further spoken of along with another reptilian species known as the carrog. The addanc survived until comparatively recent times at such places as Bedd-yr-Afanc near Brynberian, at Llyn-yr-Afanc above Bettws-y-Coed on the River Conwy (the killing of this monster was described in the year 1693), and Llyn Barfog. A carrog is commemorated at Carrog near Corwen, and at Dol-y-Carrog in the Vale of Conwy.

SWEDEN

Lindorm, Lindworm
(Swedish for Dragon)

A 19th century Scandinavian creature rumored to be a "mythical" dragon-like beast was often seen in the country around marshes, caves, and large bodies of water. There have been 40 plus eyewitness accounts of this creature.

Reports have the Lindorm being 10-20 feet long, with a body as thick as a man's thigh, black with yellow-flamed belly, a mouth full of white shining sharp teeth, large saucer like eyes, and an unwieldy body. It behaves like a snake when cornered. It will rear up on it's tail in a strike or pounce stance, behave in an aggressive and powerful manner and is also very ill tempered. It is difficult to destroy and when successfully killed will emit a foul smelling odor when in its final death throes.

Lindorms remain on land until too large to move about easily then it takes to the water where it again begins to grow. Although there are many witnesses, there has been no physical evidence of the existence of Lindorms, which has led some to believe in "collective hallucinations." However, due to the high number of first hand accounts, not to mention the absurdity of collective or group hallucinations, it is more likely to have been a very live creature at one time and perhaps still! It does not seem likely that 40 plus people could describe the same creature unless they have actually seen it!

In legend, the german hero Siegfried conquered a lindwyrm that lived near the town of Worms in Germany.

NORWAY, DANMARK

And why did the Norsmen or Vikings get the idea to put Dragon heads on their boats? Because they had never seen them pop out of the water and scare them half to death? Or just because of that, so they could scare the marine dragons with it.

DRAGONS in FRANCE?

THE TARASQUE OF NERLUC

The city of Nerluc in France was renamed Tarascon in honor of the killing of a dragon there, called the Tarasque. This animal was bigger than an ox and had long, sharp, pointed horns on its head. There were a number of different horned dinosaurs, like the Triceratops.
[Info & image: "The Great Dinosaur Mystery" by Paul Taylor]

Here is an old postcard from the city with the spiked beast.



THE LEGEND

The Tarasque haunted the banks of the River Rhone in Nerluc. It had six limbs and was spawned by the serpent Leviathan, but in time it came to haunt Southern France. A traveller named Jacques du Bois was journeying along the banks of that river one evening, and he was so focused on the terrifying rumours he had heard of the Tarasque that he failed to hear a deep rumble. Suddenly the Tarasque appeared and with a deafening roar, it ignited the luckless du Bois with a steady stream of fire.

[...]

Does Darwin dare to make
Marco Polo out a LIAR???




MESOPOTAMIAN DRAGONS
BABYLON

THE 'SIRRUSH'

In 600 B.C., an artist carved 3 animals in the archway of the Ishtar Gate in Babylon.
The three animals were a lion, a wild ox & the Sirrush.
Why was this supposedly mythical creature pictured with two known animals? Was it because it wasn't a myth? The sirrush was described as slender bodied, scale covered creature with a horn atop it's head. Nebuchadnezzar was the king of Babylonia at the time and the Bible mentions that his priests kept a great dragon or serpent that they worshipped.
The creature closely resembles a type of dinosaur, a sauropod. Since the Babylonians did not have the ability to reconstruct fossil remains it is more likely they were drawing a living animal that they had seen. The drawings and carvings of the sirrush were always the same and never varies which normally indicates they were based on a real creature. [Text courtesy Shadowlands]

THEY ALSO MADE A SCULPTURE OF THE BEAST Caption above - "The head of a dragon, the symbol of Marduk, sculpted in bronze and dating from c. 300-600 B.C., was found in Mesopotamia and is now in the Louvre Museum, Paris" - - Image from "Dragons: A Natural History" by Dr. Karl Shuker.

[...]

CENTRAL AMERICA

DRAGONS IN PERU

ICA or ICCA STONES

The simple farmer who originally found and tried to sell them, was "impressed" by authorities, to confess that he had made all those hundreds of stones by himself, or else....

The stones show clear dinosaurs interacting with humans. And for Darwinist controlled Archaeology departments all around the world, that is a No No, of course.

Power Point Paradise, Power Point Paradise 35 Comments [8/13/2015 3:15:18 AM]
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Quote# 111745

1. I'm not American! Nor a warmongering, Israel-worshipping, Evangelical Zionist Neo-Con! I'm a follower of Jesus Christ who deplores wars in Iraq, Libya, now Syria (& soon Iran). The sad fact is that much of U.S. & British Christianity was hijacked by unscriptural Scofield Bible supporters. "My Kingdom", Jesus said, "is not of this world, else would my servants fight that I should not be delivered to the Jews!" God's Kingdom is not the USA nor political "Israel."

2. I am no"Creationist!" I'm an apologist. One can't scientifically "prove" faith! Like other 'non-creationist' scientists like Newton, Einstein & others, I believe in Intelligent Design & Creation but cannot prove it to you, as neither Creation nor Evolution were ever observed by any of us. Actually there are more logical arguments for Intelligent Design!

3. I don't believe in evolution! It's a religion like the one saying the Earth was created on the back of an elephant! Evolutionists can act like the Inquisition, sensitive, bitterly persecuting people who bust their legend back to "religion masquerading as science!" Evolution was never observed! The theory is as wobbly as the "Big Bang" which was recently demoted to myth, when an undisputed Quasar was discovered IN FRONT of a Galaxy, falsifying the first pillar of Big Bang ideology. Read about it here!

4.The MAIN reason for the entrenchment of the theory of evolution is International Banker & Mainstream MEDIA support & the unpopularity of the only alternative! Evolution is a religion of UNbelief in a Designer, as otherwise people's style would be cramped by an Intelligent Designer! The purchase & take over of the Western Media by anti-God 20th Century Foxes ensured persecution of Christian thought, culture, & reasoning, and succesful proselytising of the masses by Atheism, Nihilism, Materialism, Socialism, Cultural Marxism & Evolution of course as a bogus Genesis. Hence the demise of Western Christendom ensued as night follows day. SEE Graphic!

5. Dragons are NOT legends nor myths! Dragons have more historical documentation than "dinosaurs" that don't have any! Dragons also have LOADS of fossils to back them up, for the plain & simple reason that since evolutionary highpriest Darwin started preaching, evolutionary religionists sponsored by Freemasons & New World Order Illuminists, hijacked our Dragon bones since 1875 & falsely re-christened them as "dinosaur fossils!" Of all things! Evolutionists then supplied these mythical "Dinos" with a 65 million year old myth that they were supposed to have died out in a selective disaster that didn't even kill off the more sensitive other "branches" of the legendary "evolution tree!" BALONEY! There is no archeological proof of such a feat, on the contrary... people not so long ago DID observe, see & FIGHT DRAGONS! Some were actually eaten alive by them!

6. I'm shocked by the ignorance on forums that link to us. Dudes unthinkingly parrotting what they see on TV, "learn" in school or from biased evolution spouting M.S. (Main Stream) Media, like National Geographic, Animal Planet, Discovery Channel, etc. They are gullible & uncritical of what is fed to them & get easily sown up in the forum's peerpressure by the "wise" guys who rule the forum & issue the watchword. The follower-types quickly aquiesce their true hunch that "something stinks in Denmark!" Wake up dude! You're being bullied "intellectually!" NOT?

7.The addiction to Mainstream Media! Dumbed down television slaves unthinkingly absorb Main Stream Media fodder and believe almost anything MSM- channels spew forth, like: "JFK was assasinated by a lone gunman", "Israel tried to sink The Liberty by mistake", "9-11 was done by 12 cave-dwelling Arabs with box cutters", & "Pearl Harbour was such a 'cool movie' Roosevelt didn't know long in advance the Japanese were planning to attack Pearl Harbour."
Most Western people are deceived by the Media, stressed out by the Matrix, unable to think for ourselves and became evolutionary Dino-worshippers.

8. One more thing. See this significant little BBC logo left? You've got to understand; Evolution was sponsored and designed to undermine your faith in your Supernatural roots and nature. Thus no more spirits, ghosts, angels, nor a Heaven for you! Whereas... millions of you did see ghosts, had angelic encounters, visions, milions of NDE experiences, visiting perfect Heavenly dimensions somewhere Out There proving Heaven is real! As Jesus said "In my Father's House are many mansions! IF it were NOT so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you, that where I am, you may be also!" Then he said: "If anyone believes in me, he has eternal life, and has passed from death into life!" "If anyone hears my voice & opens the door, I will come into Him and sup with him and he with me!" Don't you see? That's what their Media Info war is all about! To cut you loose from your spiritual moorings! Don't become their pawn, their useful idiot! Don't let them! Wake up out of your mass media induced stupor today!

Power Point Paradise, Power Point Paradise 23 Comments [8/13/2015 3:14:56 AM]
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Quote# 111743

A Dubai drowning has highlighted the extreme views of an Islamic father, who physically prevented two male lifeguards from saving the life of his 20-year-old drowning daughter. The female died after the father, citing a concern over her “modesty” and “honor,” violently thwarted two men – trained lifeguards – from entering the waters of the Persian Gulf.

Writes the AFP, via MSN News on Aug. 10: “A young Asian woman drowned after her father allegedly prevented Dubai lifeguards from coming to the rescue because that would ‘dishonor’ her. Emirates 24/7 reported that Dubai police arrested the unnamed man.”

According to the source, the girl’s father “started pulling and preventing the rescue men and got violent with them,” demanding that a female lifeguard be sent into the water instead. The father said he did not want the men “grappling” at his daughter, and told the rescuers that her death was preferable over the notion that unknown men would be handling her body.

Speaking to Emirates 24/7, Dubai Police Lieutenant Col. Ahmed Burqibah said, “The 20-year-old girl started drowning and screaming for help. Two rescue men were at the beach, and they rushed to help the girl.”

Burqibah said an “obstacle” prevented the lifeguards from reaching the drowning victim. “This obstacle was the belief of this Asian man who considered that if these men touched his daughter, then this would dishonor her. It cost him the life of his daughter…He told them that he prefers his daughter being dead than being touched by a strange man.”

Unnamed Islamic Father, The Examiner 32 Comments [8/13/2015 3:08:25 AM]
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Quote# 111741

Today's reminder: Jesus' commands to take care of the poor were not addressed to government but to you and me.

Bryan Fischer, Twitter 38 Comments [8/13/2015 3:06:48 AM]
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Submitted By: AJ Williams

Quote# 111740

Glenn Beck brought right-wing pseudo-historian David Barton onto his television program last week so that he could deliver another one of his "history" lessons to Beck's audience about how the Founding Fathers took all of the rights guaranteed in the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights straight out of the Bible, specifically Genesis 1-8.

As Barton explained, the purpose of the Declaration was to declare that there was a God, that God created inalienable rights, and that government exists to protect these rights. As such, there were some two dozen rights listed in the Declaration, which eventually were codified into the Bill of Rights, and all of which were taken directly from the Bible.

"They held that all of those came out of Genesis 1-8," Barton said. "That's what they looked to. Genesis 1-8, they went through and said, 'Here's the two dozen rights we see and that's why governments exist.' So this is the God factor and that's what made of different from the beginning."

Barton went on to declare that there is no such thing as separation of church and state or government neutrality toward religion because the Declaration declares unanimously, on behalf of every level of government, that God exists.

"We're told by the courts today that, well, we've got people among us that don't believe in God and to make it fair for everybody, government will take no position for or against God, we're going to be neutral between religion and non-religion," Barton said. "Look at the title of the Declaration of Independence. The title says this is 'the unanimous declaration of the thirteen states of the United States of America.' Every political entity in America said, hey, this is what we in the political world hold true: There is a God, He gives rights to man, and government exists to protect God-given rights. You can't be neutral in America on the God factor because none of our documents are. It's just real clear."

Beck, of course, was blown away by this revelation, as Barton declared that it is "nonsensical" for courts to protect the separation of church and state.

David Barton, Right Wing Watch 21 Comments [8/13/2015 2:57:21 AM]
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Submitted By: Giveitaday

Quote# 111730

The medieval mentality found in some parts of India was on display in the Gujarat High Court, which asked a rape victim to balance a 40kg rock on her head in order to ‘prove her purity’ and reside with her husband again. It is part of the bizarre ritual called “Agnipariksha,” or “test of fire.”

The woman became pregnant as a result of the rape but was denied an abortion by Gujarat High Court in India. If she passes this “sanctity test,” she would be able to live with her husband again.

The “test of fire” is the traditional way in some areas of India to prove virtue because of the view that a rape victim is considered to be “tainted.” The origins of the test is found in the Hindu poem Ramayana, in which Sita was made to sit in the fire after she had been kidnapped by a suitor.

Gujarat High Court, Jonathan Turley 24 Comments [8/12/2015 2:49:29 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 111729

This woman has some very serious issues, not the least of which is that she should NOT be allowed to be the minister of any Christian church. The Bible has had so many prophecies already fulfilled and it certainly isn't a book of myths. How she ever was ordained is a mystery to me because true Christians do NOT turn their back on God and renounce their faith - thus she is influenced by a demonic entity. And she fails to understand sin nature as being the reason people do things that are wrong. She is really to be pitied in some aspects because she is very, very deluded. I would not want to be her on Judgment Day.

Moria Maighread Welch, Christian News Network 18 Comments [8/12/2015 2:49:02 PM]
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Quote# 111727

(sarcasm on)

Do you really think, Trump, that the belief in God is a core essential doctrine for Christianity? I mean, maybe that's just YOUR interpretation of the Bible, huh?!? Maybe the Bible and you Christians just need to progress into the 21st century where atheists are fully qualified to be pastors? Why the Bible doesn't even have the word "atheist" in it - so there is nothing wrong with a Christian being one!

What are you - some kind of fundie or something? Where is your "tolerance," you "bigot?!?" Why can't you just accept this woman for who she is - just love her, like Jesus does? What a "hater" you are - just like those Pharisees! If they fire her, I hope she sues them and calls down the Human Rights Commission on that church! Separation of church and state! Constitution! Gay rights! Feelings!

(sarcasm off) (Did I miss any talking points? :-))

WorldGoneCrazy, Christian News Network 17 Comments [8/12/2015 2:46:54 PM]
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Quote# 111726

Abortion De-values Human Life

God created man to be the highest form of life on earth (Gen. 1:26-28). Human life is very precious to God. In fact, it is so precious that God Himself instituted the Death Penalty for anyone who takes the life of another (Exo. 21:12; Num. 35). God places great value on human life!

However, abortion promotes the message that life is NOT so valuable, and that man can do as he pleases with it. How long will it be before our nation decides that the killing of elderly people and sick people is justifiable? Why stop there? How long will it be before it becomes lawful to kill Bible believers who refuse to conform to the world system? It won't be as long as you may think (Rev. 13:16-18; Rev. 20:4). Abortion devalues human life, and it pushes our nation a step closer to that wicked day when it becomes lawful to murder innocent people.

James L. Melton, Biblebelievers.com 15 Comments [8/12/2015 2:46:42 PM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 111725

"I guess you consider it moral for a guy to get stoned to death for gathering sticks on the Sabbath." Kypros Christodoulides

If you're an atheist, it's not immoral in the slightest. Nothing is or can be immoral. It's just a matter of survival of the fittest. Your atheistic worldview believes that killing babies in the womb is okay because society says it is. So is adultery, pornography, blasphemy and homosexuality. There's no right or wrong…there’s only survival of the fittest--what mob-rule dictates.

Ray Comfort, Ray Comfort's blog 37 Comments [8/12/2015 2:46:06 PM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 111724

In Quran:

The word "man" is mentioned 23 times
The Word "woman" is mentioned 23 times

The total number of human chromosomes is 46 in 23 pairs

23 from the FATHER (man)
23 from the MOTHER (woman)

http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/basics/h...hromosomes

What is surprising that any author habitually does not bother to make sure of which word he is using how many times while expressing some idea. If some author did put some words on purpose in specific number of time, then he makes sure to make it publically known.

Perhaps the author has some secret plan behind repeating certain words in specific numbers, which people come to know after passing of some time and that is the case with Quran.

[...]

The word "Moon" appears 27 times in Quran
Moon takes a complete round around the Earth in 27 days

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbit_of_the_Moon

[...]

Point one:
The word “Day” is mentioned 365 time in Quran

Point two:
The word “Month” in plural form is mentioned 30 times

Point three:
The word “Month” in singular form is mentioned 12 times

Point four:
Chapter An-Nahl, meaning “Bee,” is the 16th Surah (chapter)
The male bee has 16 chromosomes

Point five:

“And We raised him to a lofty station.”
Maryam (19)
-Verse 57-

If I put chapter number 19 and then the verse number 57, I will get 1957.

By keeping in view the contextual meaning of the verse 19:57, the amazing point here is that first ever satellite, "Sputnik 1," was launched in 1957.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_1

Do you think all these points are coincidences? Quran is full of such (so-called) coincidences. If you are not satisfied with these then let me know and I will give you more.

Prophet Mohammad received Quran in small pieces in variety of circumstances during a span of 23 years. When people compiled all those pieces in form of a book only then they learned, which word is used how many times. There was no human in seventh century and there is no human in today’s world who can arrange and compile a book the way Quran is without upsetting the consistency and meaning of the text yet keeping the specific pattern of word repetitions with a miraculous accuracy.

“And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Sura (chapter) like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides Allah, if your (doubts) are true.”
Al Baqarah (2)
-Verse 23-

“Is it that their faculties of understanding urge them to this, or are they but a people transgressing beyond bounds?
Or do they say, "He fabricated the (Message)?” Nay, they have no faith!
Let them then produce a recital like unto it, - If (it be) they speak the truth!”
Ath-Thuur (52)
Verses 32 – 34 -

Harris, AtheistForums.org 19 Comments [8/12/2015 2:45:54 PM]
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Submitted By: Stimbo

Quote# 111723

Let me introduce a new miracle of Quran.

The word “Land” mentioned in Quran 13 times that is 13/45 = 28.888
The word “Sea” mentioned in Quran 32 times that is 32/45 = 71.111

The approximate ratio of land to sea is 13:32 or 28.888:71.111

http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/8o.html

The author, who hypothetically was living in desert in seventh century, knew the exact quantity of water on earth and that knowledge made him capable of writing these figures in coded form.

Harris, AtheistForums.org 16 Comments [8/12/2015 2:45:40 PM]
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Submitted By: Stimbo

Quote# 111722

[In response to an article concerning Bentzi Gophstein's recorded comments concerning whether the burning of churches is permissible under Jewish law]

It is sad that the "Israeli" media is making so hard a campaign, so full of hate just because they lose the elections and because they know they will lose again and again!
The problem here is that a very small group of ultra left homosexuals living in Tel Aviv are in war with the fact that the people of Israel are slowly coming back to their roots and opening their minds to religion.
The problem is that this pseudo intelectuals who don't serve in the army nor dirty their hands know that they are doomed and they are trying hard to find ways to attack Jewish morals and religion!
Buy, they are losing and losing!

Daniel Ben Hillel, Ynet 9 Comments [8/12/2015 2:45:11 PM]
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Quote# 111721

Radical right wing activist Bentzi Gophstein, who has narrowly escaped charges of incitement to violence, was recorded saying that he unquestionably supports the burning of churches and 'houses of idolatry.'

Bentzi Gophstein, head of the Lehava organization, said he supported the burning churches as a legitimate act under Jewish law during a debate on a haredi panel Wednesday. The statement, made during a summer seminar session for students at Jerusalem's Netivot Hochma (Wolfson) Yeshiva, was first exposed on the religious news site Kikar HaShabbat.

The panel, which included prominent rabbis and political figures and was led by Rabbi Abba Turetsky, featured a heated debate surrounding the status of Christian churches in Israel that were labeled "houses of idolatry." Gophstein, a radical right-wing activist, was asked, "Do you support burning churches in Israel, yes or no?" by Benny Rabinowitz, a writer for the ultra-Orhtodox daily newspaper Yated Ne'eman, who attended the event. Gophstein replied, citing a Maimonides ruling that churches should be burned. "Are you for Maimonides or against him?" he asked, rhetorically.

Gophstein's answer shocked the attendees, including Rabbi Moshe Klein, who is the Rabbi for the Hadassah Medical Center, and deputy mayor of the city of Elad, Tzuriel Krispel, who immediately and vigorously expressed opposition to his remarks. "Benzti are you for burning or not?" Rabbi Turetsky asked. "Of course I am," Bentzi can be heard saying in the recording. "It’s Maimonides. Simply yes, what is there to question?"

[...]

Gophstein denied the reports, and stated that he was merely quoting Maimonides as a part of a Halachic (Jewish law) debate. Recording notwithstanding, Gophstein is still trying to claim that the remarks were part of a theoretical debate.

Gophstein has been repeatedly detained by police on charges of incitement to violence and incitement to racism, but has never been indicted.

"In a closed panel at the Wolfson Yeshiva, a debate emerged regarding Maimonides' view on Christianity," he said to Ynet. "During the debate I said that according to Maimonides, idolatry should be burned. I emphasized a number of times that I was not calling for action, but just repeating the ways of Maimonides, and that action is in the hands of the government - not individuals. I understand that there is slander against the right wing, and people are trying to catch us on every word, but I would recommend they first investigate the inciters in the mosques or Tibi and Zoabi. Then talk to me."

Bentzi Gophstein, Ynet 7 Comments [8/12/2015 2:45:05 PM]
Fundie Index: 9

Quote# 111720

The vast majority of AFs don't know what it is and they like it. It cements white privilege and supremacy. This was only possible because of racial integration. Racial segregation was not evil at all. Asian American men had an easier time dating during the good ole times. After racial integration, the white man, black man, and hispanic man commanded the lion's share of female attention across all races. Absolutely racist and ridiculous.

Yellow fever makes it easy for AFs to get laid. I mean, how come girls don't lust for Asian guys. Its f***ing ridiculous.

SteelersRock, r/AsianMasculinity 14 Comments [8/12/2015 2:44:52 PM]
Fundie Index: 8

Quote# 111719

''a "non-Asian" person is just as Korean, Japanese, Chinese, whatever as someone whose family has been in the country for hundreds, if not thousands of years''....This is too cute. Typical white lieberal leftist ideology.

Just ignore them. A white person becoming Chinese is like me turning Zulu the next day. Just doesn't happen.

American = nationality, which means anyone with a piece of paper can be American. Its what most white Americans believe their country to be and they are proud of diversity.

Ariana Miyamoto is NOT Japanese. She's African American or most importantly American. She also spent some of her schooling years in the US so the myth of her being accustomed to Japan 100% is a lie.

Lou Jing isn't Chinese either. She doesn't even look Chinese (East Asian mongoloid). If you don't look Chinese, u ain't Chinese. If you are not one of the 55 recognized minorities you ain't Chinese. Foreign barbarians (except other Asians) = not Chinese.

BTW, Asian-Asian is not CCR. If a Chinese national is dating a Korean or some other mongoloid Asia nationality, thats it NOT CCR to me. So, Taiwanese men with SEA wives is not CCR.

The white crackas need to shut up.

SteelersRock, r/AsianMasculinity 11 Comments [8/12/2015 2:44:35 PM]
Fundie Index: 8

Quote# 111718

That's where I do believe you're wrong, my good sir. No white female should be afforded the same respect that we afford each other. Simply put, instead of putting them on a pedestal, we should be working on pushing them a couple of rungs down. We have half-asian children today growing up with Asian moms who give them ideas that us Asian men aren't worthy. We have Asian men who look at having a White woman as the mark of having made it, and literally giving themselves, bending over backwards to cater to their every want and need. Those asian men in turn look down on their other brethren. These women that are into Asian men too are into us because they have ideals of us being submissive and they know they will be put on a pedestal. How is that tolerable in any way? I want my kids to grow up to look at white women the way the white race and asian women look at us.

Don't settle for the whites being okay with us, or happy around us, or simply having no problems with us. It was never an even playing field, nor was it ever meant to be an equal playing field in their plan - so now that we are ahead, why give them this one? We shouldn't be resting until they fear us and see us the way the blacks were made to see them in Apartheid South Africa; the way the aboriginals were made to see them in Australia. Know how older black men still refer to any white man in SA as 'baas' afrikaanse for boss? Imagine all white people referring to us by default as ??, or ??. White and Black women telling their men that they're not considered attractive or sexual entities? Turning heads in fear instead of amusement?

Descartes, r/AsianMasculinity 6 Comments [8/12/2015 2:44:00 PM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 111717

IF YOU ARE BISEXUAL AND WILLINGLY ENTER INTO A STRAIGHT RELATIONSHIP YOU ARE DISOWNED FROM THE QUEER COMMUNITY. YOU NO LONGER MATTER. YOU ARE DISGUSTING IF YOU ENTER INTO A HET RELATIONSHIP WHEN YOU HAVE THE OPTION NOT TO. THAT IS FACT.

#BISEXUALS DO NOT MATTER #I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR YOU SHITHEADS #YOU GET TO PRETEND YOURE ONE OF US WHEN YOU REALLY JUST WANT THE EXTRA ATTENTION AND TO ABUSE PEOPLE #I CANNOT TRUST BISEXUALS #YOU'RE ALL LYING FUCKS WHO USE YOUR IDENTITIES TO GET INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S HEADS AND FUCK THEM UP

Sad-Agender, Sad-Agender 37 Comments [8/12/2015 2:43:46 PM]
Fundie Index: 26
Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 111714



Under biblical government, jail time is not a judgment for any crime. Prisons are superfluous when a justice system is established upon Yahweh's commandments, statutes, and judgments.

Convicted capital criminals are put to death expeditiously (Ecclesiastes 8:11).

Non-capital criminals are required to pay two to five times restitution (depending upon the nature of their crime) to their VICTIMS (Exodus 22:1ff, etc.). If a thief is unable to pay the required restitution, he's to be sold into indentured servitude until his debt is paid to his victim (Exodus 22:3). If he refuses to pay restitution, his contempt of court (Yahweh) is a capital crime (Deuteronomy 17:9-13) for which he's to be put to death expeditiously.

Perfect! Just like King David declared it was in Psalm 19:7-11.

Under such criminal JUSTICE system, crime would be all but unheard of and there would be no need for tax-paid prisons paid for by innocent people.

For more on how Yahweh's triune moral law applies and should be implemented today, see free online book "Law and Kingdom: Their Relevance Under the New Covenant" at (edited by moderator for TOS violation)


- Avatar Ted R. Weiland , Raw Story 13 Comments [8/12/2015 2:41:34 PM]
Fundie Index: 10

Quote# 111712

Netizens call bull on ustazah’s [Islamic scholar's] logic about drinking dairy milk

KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 9, 2015;


An ustazah’s scientific understanding is being questioned by netizens who are also mocking her “theory” on cow’s milk and human behaviour.

Fatimah Syarha, who host TV3’s Fiqh Wanita, claims that cow’s milk should not be fed to babies, as the infant may “absorb” the obtuse DNA of the bovine in the milk would somehow affect the development of the child.

The religious teacher, when discussing the importance of breastfeeding, explained that a child who is regularly fed with the dairy milk may possess features that are generally associated with the animal.

Babies, Fatimah said on Friday’s show, catered for Muslim woman, may grow up to be hot-headed because cows were so.

Her assertions, however, bewildered netizens and Fatimah inadvertently became a laughing stock on cyberspace as social media users began questioning the lack of scientific evidence in her theory, which undermined her reputation as an educator.

Directing their comments towards the television programme’s official Facebook page, netizens express their dissatisfaction with the information that has been conveyed by the show.

Adila Musa Idris commented; “I find your lack of scientific fact disturbing. You cannot based your claims on blind assumptions alone.Where is your proof?”

One Siti Amiranah said while Fatimah’s point on the importance of breastfeeding was correct, the former did not agree with the claim that cow’s milk will cause brain damage.

“It’s just ridiculous, humans have been feeding children with milk from animals for centuries.”

Mariani Mohd Azlan said that the facts provided by the host are wrong and creates confusion among its viewers, who are generally young mothers.

“I request that TV3 and the ustazah correct and amend the information on this matter or at the least provide correct scientifically accurate information in such shows.”

Aishah Balqis said based on this logic, it was best to stay away from beef, chicken and sea food.

“Maybe we should eat human flesh then you get 100% human DNA. So shallow.”

Fatimah Syarha, The Rakyat Post 8 Comments [8/12/2015 2:40:44 PM]
Fundie Index: 10

Quote# 111711

A federal judge on Wednesday ordered Texas state Attorney General Ken Paxton and another official to a contempt hearing over the state's refusal to recognize same-sex marriages following the June Supreme Court ruling, according to Dallas television station WFAA.

U.S. District Judge Orlando Garcia issued the order in response to a legal action filed by Texas resident John Stone-Hoskins, who asked the court to hold Paxton in contempt after the state would not amend his spouse's death certificate to reflect that the two were married, according to the Houston Chronicle.

According to Cole, when he asked the state to amend his spouse's death certificate, the state cashed his check but refused to complete the paperwork. A Department of State Health Services official wrote, "Until the ruling is fully reviewed, we will not be able to know the impact, if any, on the process to file or amend death certificates. We will keep your documentation in a pending file and will advise you once a determination is made," according to the Chronicle.

Garcia also ordered Kirk Cole, the state's interim director at the Department of State Health Services, to issued an amended death certificate for Stone-Hoskin's spouse, James Stone-Hoskins, according to the Chronicle.

Paxton and Cole must appear in court next week so that Garcia can determine whether the two officials violated his July ruling prohibiting the the state from restricting same-sex marriage.

Cynthia Meyer, a spokeswoman for Paxton, told the Chronicle that the court must determine in a separate case whether the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage was retroactive. Meyer said that Paxton's office would be filing a response to Garcia's order in court.

Earlier this week, Paxton was also indicted on felony securities fraud charges.

TX Attorney General Ken Paxton, TPM 15 Comments [8/12/2015 2:40:27 PM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 111710

When Vicki and Jerry Oels and other members of Clarkridge Church of Christ attended the funeral of a gay man in Mountain Home, Ark., they may have gone a step beyond even Westboro Baptist Church.

The members of Westboro stand across the street with their silly signs, but never really approach any of the mourners. The Oels — and others from Clarkridge Church of Christ — actually attended the funeral and stood graveside within feet of the mourners. The couple then handed an envelope to the chaplain who performed the service, to the dead man’s mother and to the dead man’s husband. In each envelope was a “sympathy” card, along with 18 pages of hate-filled rhetoric telling the dead man’s friends and loved ones they’re going to hell.

Jeremy Liebbe, the chaplain who performed the funeral service for 32-year-old James Stone, said he knew something was up when he saw the smirk on Jerry Oels’ face throughout the service. Liebbe said he opened the envelope they gave him already expecting the hateful literature that was inside.

Liebbe said his response to the Oels was, “If you think I’m going to hell for this I’ll see you there, because you’ll be there before me.”

Liebbe, who originally reported the story to Dallas Voice, said initially that the churches contacted were in Mountain Home. The churches were actually in Clarkridge, an unincorporated area about 10 miles away.

Jay Hoskins, Stones’ widow, said most of the people who attended the funeral refused to step into the tent and take a seat. Only seven of the dozen chairs were occupied, even though about 30 people attended.

“To have these idiots show up and do this was the most awful and cruel thing that they could have been done,” Hoskins said.

Jerry Oels and other members of Clarkridge Church of Christ , Dallas Voice 16 Comments [8/12/2015 2:40:17 PM]
Fundie Index: 11