Quote# 111572

In the end, then, scientists are indoctrinated at a very early age to be macroevolutionists; they are ridiculed throughout their careers if they believe otherwise; they usually cannot spare the time necessary to look into the facts regarding macroevolution; and they are often punished for believing anything else. These issues keep scientists from learning the data necessary to help them understand the fact that macroevolution is no more than an unconfirmed hypothesis.

Although this assessment is rather grim, we must point out that times are changing. More and more books questioning macroevolution are being written by respected university professors. These books have obviously had an impact. In 2004, a Gallup poll showed that only about one-third of Americans believe that Darwin's theory of evolution is supported by the evidence. Forty-five percent of Americans believe that God created human beings in their present form about 10,000 years ago. In addition, about 15% of high school teachers teach both creation and evolution side by side, and close to 20% of them reject macroevolution. Despite the fact that macroevolutionists have been trying to monopolize the education systems for decades, macroevolution has not gained much ground with students and teachers.

Anonymous, Apologia 25 Comments [8/8/2015 3:23:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 111570

Structural homology turned from evidence for macroevolution to evidence against it when scientists learned about genetics and how to map out nucleotide sequences.

Anonymous, Apologia 16 Comments [8/8/2015 3:22:48 AM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 111568

Consider, for example, the very famous fossil of a creature called Archaeopteryx (ar kee op' ter iks), which evolutionists want to believe is an intermediate link between reptiles and birds. This fossil is found in Jurassic rock, which (see Figure 9.2) contains remains of dinosaurs as well. In the geological column, Jurassic rock is underneath Cretaceous rock, which is underneath Tertiary rock. Although a few fossilized birds are found in other strata, the vast majority of bird fossils in the fossil record come from either Tertiary rock or the Quaternary rock that lies on top of it. Now remember, according to the assumptions of macroevolutionists, this would mean that birds did not really exist in significant numbers until the times during which Tertiary and Quaternary rock formed. Thus, during the times when Cretaceous and Jurassic rock were forming, macroevolutionists assume that birds had not yet evolved to any significant degree. Since Archaeopteryx is found in Jurassic rock, macroevolutionists conclude that it lived prior to most birds and that it could therefore be one of the transitional forms linking birds to their common ancestor, which is assumed to be some form of reptile. The figure below shows you a picture of the fossil of Archaeopteryx as well as an artist's rendition of what the creature might have looked like.



In the vast majority of respects, this creature is a bird. The fossil shows very good imprints of feathers, and analysis of these feather imprints indicates that they are the kinds of feathers you see on birds that are living today. In fact, flightless birds that are living today have different feathers from those of birds that fly, and the fossil imprints indicate that Archaeopteryx had feathers of a flying bird.

In addition, the bones preserved in the fossil are very similar to the bones of birds that are living today. The skull, for example, shows that Archaeopteryx had a brain very similar to flying birds that are living today, and the fossilized inner ear indicates that Archaeopteryx had senses of hearing and balance that are comparable to flying birds that are living today. After performing X-ray scans of the skull and working with computer models, Dr. Timothy Rowe of the University of Texas at Austin said, “This animal had huge eyes and a huge vision region in its brain to go along with that and a great sense of balance. Its inner ear also looks very much like the ear of a modern bird.” (University of Texas at Austin Press Release, August 4, 2004, http://www.utexas.edu/cons/news/imaging.html, retrieved 01/06/05). In addition, paleontologists have been able to confirm bone structures that indicate Archaeopteryx had the same kind of lung design that birds living today have. In the end, then, Archaeopteryx seems to be a bird.

Why do many paleontologists consider Archaeopteryx a transitional form between reptile and bird? Because Archaeopteryx has teeth (which birds living today do not have), and it has claws on its wings, as shown on the illustration in the figure. No adult bird living today has claws on its wings. Some young birds (like the juvenile touraco or the juvenile hoatzin) have claws on their wings when they are young, but they lose them by the time they are adults. Some adult birds, like the ostrich, have structures on their wings that a few texts call “claws,” but they are better called “spurs,” because they do not have the actual structure of claws.

Because of these minor differences between Archaeopteryx and birds living today, macroevolutionists want to believe it is a transitional form between bird and reptile. After all, most (but not all) reptiles have teeth, and most (but not all) reptiles have front and back claws. Thus, the teeth in Archaeopteryx are supposed to represent reptilian teeth that had not quite “evolved away,” and the claws on its wings are supposed to represent front reptilian claws that had not quite blended in to the wing.

There are at least two problems with this interpretation. First, it assumes that birds living today are the only representations of proper birds. This is a rather myopic view of the natural world. We have many fossils that tell us a lot about the kinds of creatures that lived on this earth but are not living now. Are we to ignore them? If we do not ignore these creatures, we find that there were other birds that had teeth. In fact, there is a whole subclass devoted to such extinct birds, subclass Odontornithes (oh' don tor' nih theez). As a result, it is not clear that the teeth on Archaeopteryx are all that special.

The second problem with this interpretation is that it puts a lot of emphasis on rather minor structures in the animal. Based on its feathers, bone structure, lung structure, etc., Archaeopteryx seems to be a true bird. These are the main features we look at to determine whether or not something is a bird. To concentrate on two minor features, one of which exists in extinct birds, seems to be ignoring the vast majority of the data. Those who want to believe that Archaeopteryx is a transitional form will counter that we only see these structures in extinct birds, and therefore it is reasonable to assume that they were a part of the evolutionary process. However, species go extinct rather regularly, as demonstrated by the fossil record itself. The fact that all of the birds with these characteristics are now extinct is not surprising, since extinction is a major part of the fossil record.

Archaeopteryx at least illustrates how difficult it is for macroevolutionists to come up with transitional forms in the fossil record. If Archaeopteryx is a transitional form, it is a very late one. It must have been one of the very last creatures on the hypothetical macroevolutionary line between reptile and bird. Of all the transitional forms necessary to turn a reptile into a bird, it seems odd that the only one that has been found is so incredibly birdlike. Why isn't there a transitional form that is not so ambiguous?

As we said before, there are a few fossils like Archaeopteryx that macroevolutionists can present as transitional forms. The problem is, like Archaeopteryx, these supposed transitional forms are incredibly similar to one of the two types of creatures they are supposed to be linking. It seems much safer to conclude that these are just specialized versions of the creatures they are similar to, as opposed to transitional forms between two different kinds of creatures.

Anonymous, Apologia 20 Comments [8/8/2015 3:11:03 AM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 111565

Now, even though we have many characteristics in common with apes and monkeys, there is no reason to think that we are related to them. That is the mistake that evolutionists make. They see similarities among animals and immediately think that these similarities come from common genes in a common ancestor. As we learned in Module #9, however, all genetic information that we have been able to acquire indicates that this simply isn't the case. The similarities between animals are the result of a common Designer, not a common ancestor.

Some people not only object to the fact that humans are classified in order Primates, but they also object that we are in kingdom Animalia. Instead, these people want a sixth kingdom solely for human beings. However, this just does not make sense. Humans share all of the characteristics of mammals. Why, then, would you not put them in class Mammalia in kingdom Animalia? Some would say that this implies that human beings are “animals” and that this demeans the status of human beings, who are made in the image of God. However, that's only true if you are referring to the common usage of the term “animal.” The fact is, scientific terminology is much more precise than common terminology, and when a scientist says “animal,” it means something quite different from when a nonscientist uses the term. By putting human beings in kingdom Animalia, phylum Chordata, class Mammalia, and order Primates, we are simply stating the obvious fact that human beings have features in common with other organisms classified in the same way. This does not imply anything about how human beings were created. Human beings were created in the image of God, and that makes us unique. Of course, this is why we have our own genus and species, Homo sapiens.

Anonymous, Apologia 25 Comments [8/8/2015 3:10:17 AM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 111564


However, when the Quaran weighs as more significant than the US Constitution, in the eyes of a sitting POTUS, we have a terrible, terrible problem which is basically treason. The Bible has never had greater influence than the Constituion in the history of the US. Why should the nation disregard the Bible, which has established the cultural and moral basis for the US, in favor of the Quaran, which has favored enslavement, subjugation, and tyranny as its basis????

Obama is that Manchurian Candidate that values the Quaran more than the US Constitution.

In a rational environment, he would already be impeached and enjoying "free time" in Leavenworth. However, in the age of liberalism, we have a treasonous US president who works to oppose the best interest of the avearge US citizen and remains in power, unapposed, simply because he is black.

Obama should be hung for treason.

Only political correctness and the inability of the US population to acknowledge failure, incompentence, and treasonous activities of a citizen, simply because he is black, shows how low the nation has fallen.

Obama= Muslim= traitor to the US

Wake up Liberals- you have been fooled (yet again). Your idiocy has cost the US and been exposed in the 1930s (Stalin), 1940s -1950s (mao, Stalin), 1960s (Castro, Ho Chi Mihn), 1970s ( Pol Pot,, castro) 1980s (Ortega, Castro, Ayatollah khomeni), and beyond.

Wake up and read. Your support of tyrants who oppose liberty here and outside the US is killing the hope of liberty for the world for the purpose of fanciful idiocy. We do not need more tyrants, totalitarianism, and suppression of rights. We need mrore liberty- oppose fascist liberals who support the rigths of the government over those of the people.

Oddly, I feel like a "hippie" from the 1960s pleading for "power to the people" to the very same people who espoused this plea 50 years ago and now whole heartedly support fascism for political expediency- liberalism.

hawkeye2009, City Data 29 Comments [8/8/2015 3:09:51 AM]
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Submitted By: ScrappyB

Quote# 111561

[On a pregnant 10 year old whose life is in danger being denied an abortion]

The people of Paraguay want to avoid abortion at all costs due to their faith. They see us as the murderers for being so acceptant of abortion. A woman can have unsafe sex and have an abortion up to 24 weeks into the pregnancy.

I am not religious in any way but i see that as the murder of an unborn child. Not an abortion. We are the bigger monsters than Paraguay.


You can get an abortion here faster than a Mcdonalds when the unborn child is 24 weeks and has hair, due to your own stupidity of having unsafe sex or change of mind. Yet we are the good guys?


The mother's life is in danger in every pregnancy if you look at it that way. I don't have agenda,

I just find it utterly unbelievable that Paraguay produces so many beautiful babies due to their laws on abortion while we murder them up to 24 weeks due to our own stupidity. Paraguay must be thinking we have some cheek to cast judgement on their views.

I'll say again, the mother's may die in every pregnancy, should we just abort every child then?

She is 10 years old so hopefully the psychological damage will be minimal after some therapy and she will have created another beautiful human life in the process.

In the future, she will probably be happy she did it and as a result kept in line with her faith's teachings. You are merely speculating she will be heavily damaged when this is certainly not always the case.


if abortion in the UK was illegal, they would maybe be a lot more careful and use contraceptives more responsibly. Many would think twice about engaging in unsafe sex with the knowing that there is no way out by the option of the murder of their unborn child.

I'm not trying to punish girls for having sex, I am criticizing woman who are careless and irresponsible then go off for an abortion. They are not just hurting themselves, but murdering an innocent defenceless unborn child in the process. Disgusting, in my SUBJECTIVE opinion.




justjohn1, The Guardian 34 Comments [8/7/2015 5:42:52 PM]
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Quote# 111553

The Boy Scouts have made a fearful and fatal decision to allow homosexuals to serve as mentors to young boys. This will be and should be the end of this once noble organization.

Why? Because of the well-established link between homosexuality and pedophilia.

[...]

Now we may freely stipulate that heterosexuals offend against children as well. But when we see such an alarming imbalance in the ratio at which homosexuals offend against children, it is the height of irresponsibility to deliberately place homosexuals in positions where they have frequent access to young boys. It is inexcusable and virtually criminal.

[...]

I predict the LDS church will bolt the Boy Scouts out of a desire to protect the young boys in Mormon families and to keep themselves from being bankrupted. If the LDS church allows homosexual scoutmasters, they will be in court until the end of time.

No father who is thinking clearly would put his young son in proximity to an adult homosexual. [...] Every dad who is aware and informed will flee the Boy Scouts and head for the refuge Trail Life USA affords. And they will do it today. Dads, you don't have a moment to lose. Protecting the sexual integrity of your young sons is just too important.

Bryan Fischer, Barb Wire 20 Comments [8/7/2015 5:41:05 PM]
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Quote# 111551

That is a smoke screen and false. You are getting your 'facts' right from the mouth of PP and we are now learning just how deceitful they are about their 'activities'.

"The fact of the matter is that 51 percent of Planned Parenthood’s yearly clinic income – their only self-sustaining revenue source – comes from abortion, 329,445 abortions.

40 percent of all reported abortions committed in the United States occur at a Planned Parenthood clinic, making it by far the largest abortion provider in America. (Editor’s note: When using the national abortion numbers from the Guttmacher Institute, Planned Parenthood does 27.5 percent of all abortions in the United States,)

Planned Parenthood claims to provide 11 million “services” in America each year. From this overly inflated number, they calculate that the 329,445 abortions they committed in their last reported year amounts to only 3 percent of their services.

Planned Parenthood’s 3 percent figure has been bought hook, line, and sinker by the mainstream media as proof positive that Planned Parenthood isn’t really about abortion. But if you take even a cursory look at Planned Parenthood’s own data, that claim begins to unravel and quickly."

Read the rest of this article which details how PP fudges the numbers: http://www.lifenews. com/2012/09/05/media-hides-fact-planned-parenthood-does-40-of-abortions/

Also, you totally ignored what I said about the women's health screenings and preventative services being obtainable anywhere today and fully covered for everyone. So...why oh why do taxpayers need to fund PP when we are already paying for Obama Care (which guarantees 100% care to all)? Over the last 10 years, Planned Parenthood has gotten more than $4 billion in state and federal government aid. And, now we know they are making money selling baby parts. Shameful!

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention provides free or low-cost breast and cervical cancer screenings — without aborting babies. State health departments provide free cancer screenings — without aborting babies. Community health centers provide a range of medical services — without aborting babies.

These organizations are genuinely committed to women’s health, with no ideological commitment to abortion.

Planned Parenthood’s twisted conception of “reproductive health” doesn’t extend to the baby that has been reproduced. All you need to know about its priorities is that it only provides 19,000 “prenatal services,” which means that it performs roughly 17 times more abortions."
http://nypost. com/2015/08/03/planned-parenthoods-pathetic-3-percent-lie/

Angel Jabbins, Christian News Network 15 Comments [8/7/2015 5:41:00 PM]
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Quote# 111550

AS I have stated before, School began with the Pledge of Allegiance and a Prayer, Congress would begin their work with a Prayer. Pastors and Ministers proudly Proclaimed the Lord and Sin was the disease that needed to be eradicated in all. So much for those days of a bygone era. Yet it is most astounding, that so few remember how things once were, as compared to how things are today. It is to our discredit, that we have viewed those things and those days, as "Old Fashioned", just as they view the Holy Word of God as "Old Fashioned." The "Oxymorons" then wonder what is wrong with today and they never once are willing to look to the past and make the needed adjustments accordingly.

[...]

It is in truth, here in the USA, we have eradicated such disease processes as the Plague, Tuberculosis and Leprosy, yet we can't cure the common cold, how odd is that? We have taken the Antibiotics to the point that diseases recur, because we have made these diseases Antibiotic resistant. For instance, we thought we had eradicated Measles, not so today, children are dying from it, once again. Do you ever wonder what all is going on now, as compared to times past? Do we not think, technology should be beyond this sort of thing, we should be prospering like no other?! So...what is the answer?!

Dontwobears, Rapture Forums 22 Comments [8/7/2015 5:40:56 PM]
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Quote# 111547

[The Chicago Theological Seminary, a LGBT-inclusive seminary, had openly gay professor Ken Stone give a pro-LGBT speech in commemoration of its 150th anniversary. It also handed out some condoms for a pride event.]

In the case of this seminary, which has long departed from biblical foundations, there's another lesson we can learn, namely that the embrace of homosexual practice is not so much an advance in "tolerance" as much as it is a plunge into sexual anarchy, as demonstrated by the condom distribution event.

This is a major point I make in my forthcoming book Outlasting the Gay Revolution: Where Homosexual Activism is Really Going and How to Turn the Tide.

There I note that:

"We are more accepting of homosexuality today because our sexual morals our lower, not because we are more enlightened. Put another way, the gay revolution is not the successor of the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s; it is the successor of the sexual revolution of the 1960s. Getting a grasp on this, we get a grasp on where our culture is really headed, helping us recognize that our embrace of homosexuality (even the more committed, less promiscuous kind) is part of our larger descent into sexual anarchy."

[...]

This means that what is happening at Chicago Theological Seminary is not taking place in a moral and spiritual vacuum. Instead, all these branches of sexual anarchy go back to the same root, namely, the rejection of spiritual authority. We think we know better than God!

[...]

To repeat: Contemporary America's embrace of homosexual practice is part and parcel of America's descent into sexual anarchy, which not only includes the full embrace of fornication, cohabitation, and having kids out of wedlock, but the celebration of polygamy, polyamory, and "swinging" on reality TV, not to mention nude dating shows and the like.

The good news (which forms Principle #3 in Outlasting the Gay Revolution) is that "Sexual Purity Trumps Sexual Anarchy," and if we walk in holiness and live in purity, by God's grace and empowerment, we and our families will thrive while those who participate in the culture of sexual anarchy will gradually defeat themselves.

As for Chicago Theological Seminary, one thing they will not do is produce world-changing disciples of Jesus, unless they make a truly radical course correction.

Stranger things have happened, have they not?

Dr. Michael Brown, Barb Wire 18 Comments [8/7/2015 5:40:44 PM]
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Quote# 111546

In order to oppose God, a person must admit God exists. There is a big difference between knowing God exists (head knowledge) and faithfully trusting Him with your eternity (heart knowledge). Non-Christians know God exists, but they believe His laws to be a burdensome stone with too many restrictions. They don't like His "rules" and believe He ruins all their fun. God set laws in place to protect humanity from disease like AIDS, yet God is mocked, His laws broken, and the heathen rage on and on. [...] Heathens are people who oppose God Almighty and they rage against Him and against those who love and follow Him. These heathens are like children who throw a fit if they don't get their way, even if getting their way means aligning themselves with Satan. [...] They believe that if they can just pass legislation to get rid of God they can do what they want with no consequences. How wrong they are. Without God and His love holding all things together, the heathen and ungodly nations would cease to be. America, which was founded on Judeo-Christian principles, has been turning against God for a number of years and is soon to face God's judgment. Prayer was taken out of schools and then abortion, the act of offering children to demonic gods who demand human sacrifice, was legalized. The homosexual agenda is the final nail in America's coffin.

[...]

It is simply astonishing to me that so many people have thoroughly hardened their hearts against God. Not only do they refuse to see the truth but they take great pleasure in denying it. It is comparable to a parent trying to teach a rebellious child not to touch a hot stove and that child defiantly placing his hands on the strove. Even though the pain is great it is more important to prove the parent wrong. The heathen continually try to prove God wrong, but they are the ones who suffer. [...] Satan, the liar who fell from grace long ago, is currently doing everything he can to convince people that God does not exist and that there is no right or wrong.

[...]

There is a movement afoot to eliminate Christianity from the whole world. The heathens will soon get their wish, but it won't be through their vile raging. One day very soon Jesus will call those of us who follow Him Home. [...] Once we are gone, the heathen will have their way and they will get the leader they have been clamoring for. They don't have any idea what horrors that will bring. [...] Then things on earth will get worse. When the man of sin steps into the role of world leader, he will seem like a peace maker. It won't be along until those non-believers who are left on earth after the Rapture will understand that God Almighty, who they raged against and rejected, loved them. God's love was available to them, but they will have chosen to reject Him to follow Satan.

Ron Graham and Nathele Graham, Rapture Forums 22 Comments [8/7/2015 5:40:40 PM]
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Quote# 111541

Normally demons aren’t going to speak to you in the second person because they don’t want you to realize an outside source is talking to you unless they feel very secure in their domination of you. But in cases of extreme demonic harassment, such as physical possession or some types of schizophrenia, demons intentionally switch to using second person pronouns because they want to add to your terror by flaunting the fact that your mind is being invaded by some outside force. Because our internal thought life feels like such an intimate part of us, we really panic at the thought of some creepy creature invading our minds. In these situations, demons may try to tell you they are aliens from outer space, or some kind of monsters, or they will admit their real identity as demons—whatever image freaks you out the most. 

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 11 Comments [8/7/2015 5:39:52 PM]
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Quote# 111540

We are witnessing something far more sinister than the ancient pagan world's excursion into the offering of children to be burned in the fires of the idol known as Molech.

Today's version of the "fires of Molech" is more sadistic and wicked than the ancients could have imagined, because it is now done under the cover of "law." One man out of a band of nine cast the deciding vote for Roe v. Wade in 1973 and since then the waves of unborn children have met their doom to the grand figure of 55 million and counting. This is the "law"? If Molech were actually a real and living deity - he would be delighted.

The rest of the world's nations mandate abortions out of fear (overpopulation) but they are no slouches in honoring the idol of Molech. In China, it is reported that upwards of 336 million abortions have been performed since 1971. The latest twist from the Orient is reportedly eating the remains of aborted babies in a soul which is thought to rejuvenate youthfulness in those who practice this kind of cannibalism.

[...]

In the East it is abortion and sterilization to avoid overpopulation. Is the West's answer homosexual marriage, how many children come out of that perverted arrangement?

[...]

Hidden under the mounds of dirt called "politically correct speech" and "cultural diversity" can be found fossils of human wisdom and better judgment. Let's dig there - because political correctness, compromise and election rhetoric are lousy substitutes for a real conscience.

No one, including Donald Trump, who is not willing to make a full frontal attack against all abortion and perverted same sex marriage, is any more than a paper tiger vying for our votes based on a better deal than Barack Obama. America needs more than a substitute for Obama; we need a first class statesman with a full blown conscience.

Michael Bresciani, Barb Wire 8 Comments [8/7/2015 5:39:48 PM]
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Quote# 111539

The Occult Roots of the Postgender Movement

A long time ago, there were three kinds of human beings:

Male, ? descended from the sun; ¤

Female, ? descended from the earth; ?

and Androgynous, with both male and female elements, descended from the moon. ? ? ?

http://outre-monde.com/2010/09/25/pl...-aristophanes/

Plato's myth of the Androgyne:

The original unity;
The union of the sexes in one individual,
Cleaved asunder, divided.
Our sexual quests and forays are
Our pathetic attempts to regain this original unity.
Adam was androgynous, the original androgyne;
Eve, his opposite self, was taken out of him.
He and Eve, now incomplete and unhappy,
Sin against God's will and are driven out of the garden.
Condemned to search the world over,
They never suspect that they are
Unconsciously searching for each other.
We are condemned to search, too:
In sexual conquests, food, money, power, status;
But never in the right places - within ourselves.
The legacy of our fallen parents.

http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/plato...gyne/comments/

Bacchus/Dionysos arrives this December 25, 2015

The Occult Roots of the Postgender Movement

http://illuminatiwatcher.com/the-occult-roots-of-th…

Is Bruce Jenner's transformation a tribute to the androgynous God Dionysos?

Bacchus renascitur; ?

Hellenic Pagan, VNN 11 Comments [8/7/2015 5:39:45 PM]
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Quote# 111538

“Well, I don’t actually believe in ‘religious freedom,’ the way that the term is used,” Lively explained. “I know that when you use it and when most people use it, you’re talking about Christianity. We’re not talking about freedom for Islam and freedom for Buddhism and Hinduism as if they’re equal with God.

“The number-one Commandment is ‘You shall have no other gods before me.’ And when we forget that and we start accepting this concept of religious pluralism and we say that Jesus Christ is really no higher an authority in America than Buddha or Mohammed or even Satan, that’s when we have really dropped the ball and we have brought disfavor from God on us.”

(...)

Later in the interview, Lively claimed that thanks to abortion rights and LGBT equality, “we really are now under occupation.. by cultural Marxists” just as France was occupied by the Nazis in World War II.

The “cultural Marxists,” he said, have now ensured that everyone in America is “forced to participate in gay culture,” and are working toward the next step, which is “punishment of all dissenters.”

“The folks that are pushing this, they want to come after every Christian,” he warned, “they hate Christianity, they want to punish, they are going to aggressively pursue every person.”

But he had some good news: “I’m more blessed than I’ve ever been, and yet I’m being persecuted more than anybody else in America.”

Scott Lively, Right Wing Watch 22 Comments [8/7/2015 2:07:47 PM]
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Submitted By: Ibuki Mioda

Quote# 111537

God is the One who brings demons into your life, and He does so for specific purposes. His purposes fall into two categories: discipline and refinement. Discipline is about God spanking your rebellious behind back into alignment with Him. Refinement is about pushing obedient souls on to the next level of spiritual maturity. Either way, God is focused on improving His personal relationship with you. He is doing this to you for positive reasons—that is an essential point to keep in mind.

So how do you know if God is disciplining you or refining you? This is actually easy to sort out once you understand a few things about how God communicates. You see, when God is upset with you about something, He tells you exactly what the problem is and He also tells you what you can do to fix it. This is something you can absolutely count on God for. Contrary to what you may have been taught, God is extremely easy to succeed with and He never expects you to read His mind and figure out why He’s mad at you while He sulks in a corner.

Nothing is going to wipe you out faster than thinking God is angry with you when He really isn’t. This is why it is essential that you understand how to sort out real conviction from God from the false conviction that demons pump out. Whenever possible, demons try to impersonate God’s Voice in your mind and get you to think He’s saying things to you that He really isn’t saying. Since demons are such clever little liars, can you really learn how to see through their games? Absolutely. It’s surprisingly easy to sort out true conviction from false conviction, and we break this down for you in three simple steps in this post: Identifying False Conviction: Three Easy Tests. Also read Conviction Q&A. A proper understanding of how to recognize God’s conviction will take a lot of stress out of your life. Read through the conviction posts and determine if there is anything specific that God is convicting you about. 

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 9 Comments [8/7/2015 1:59:04 PM]
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Quote# 111535

God teaches that He is our Master and the Supreme Ruler over all things. God teaches that He is an autonomous Being who does not depend on anyone or anything. God says that He created us to be utterly dependent on Him in every way. Sure we have choice, but that choice is always limited to choosing between options which God has preselected for us. Heaven or Hell—these are the options God gives us in eternity. There is no other choice. We don’t have the option of making choices up just because we don’t like the ones God has put on the table. The next time someone tells you that you have free will, think about the whole Heaven and Hell issue. How free are you when all of your choices are being defined by Someone else? We are not autonomous beings. We are dependent creatures who are incapable of existing apart from God willfully sustaining us. Demons are the same—they also depend on God to sustain their existence. Like you, demons can fantasize about what they’d like to do, but the only things they’ll ever get to do are the things that God approves of. This means that whenever demons interact with you, it is an interaction that God wants to have happen. He is the One controlling what kinds of options demons have when it comes to messing with you. He controls when they can mess with you, how they can mess with you, and how long they can mess with you. Be very clear about this: demons want you dead. So the very fact that you’re reading this post demonstrates that God is continuously blocking demons from having their total way with you. Maybe the things He is allowing them to do are pretty bad. But no matter how bad they are, they’d be doing a whole lot worse if God weren’t intervening.

Understanding that God is intimately involved in every aspect of your life and that He is with you at all times is a vital step in learning how to deal with persistent demon problems. Whether or not you are a Christian, God is always with you. This theory that non-Christians are free game to demons is utter hooey. No one can touch you in this world without God’s permission—that includes both demons and other humans. You have to get this, because as long as you aren’t acknowledging God’s involvement in your life and His supremacy over all things, you are not going to learn the lessons He wants to teach you through this experience. What happens when we don’t learn our lessons? We have to keep going over and over the same ground until we choose to submit to our Teacher.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 8 Comments [8/7/2015 1:58:54 PM]
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Quote# 111533

Demons are scary. Maybe when you first met yours, they put on their friendly act in order to lure you in. But at some point, they started showing their nasty side and now you’re in serious torment. Maybe demons are attacking your body. Maybe they’re attacking your mind. Maybe they’re attacking your surroundings. Whatever their methodology is, we can teach you how to deal with these persistent pests in a way that will help your soul.

When it comes to addressing persistent demon problems (PDPs), the Church can be counted on to point you in the wrong direction. Instead of teaching you how to grow through the experience, she teaches you to view the whole thing like a power struggle between God and angelic beings. The Church encourages you to be afraid, and then to imitate dark magic techniques by casting spells, wielding the power of magic charms, and calling upon powerful, more experienced sorcerers to come cast spells on your behalf. Don’t believe it? That’s because you’ve been blinded by the way the Church has dolled up her forms of sorcery. Rebuking in Jesus’ Name and shouting out Bible verses—that’s just basic spell casting. Holding up the Bibles and the crosses while you fling around the holy water—that’s just playing with magic charms. Calling the priest to come perform an exorcism ritual—that’s just networking among sorcerers. Fasting—that’s just you trying to coerce God into doing what you want. All of these theatrics are based on the same flawed assumptions that what’s happening to you isn’t supposed to be happening to you. In other words, God has dropped the ball. You simply can’t justify going through a bunch of hoopla in order to get God’s attention unless you first accept the lie that God isn’t already in control of the situation.

Thanks to the Church’s idiocy and the human lust for power, most Christians have bought into the theory that their God is some impotent ninny who has had His own creation run amuck on Him. He’s now up in Heaven feeling totally overwhelmed by the chaos that is currently happening in this world of ours, which is why it is so critical that we constantly bombard Him with instructions on how to run His own universe. “Do this. Stop that. Fix him. Save her.” How can we sincerely admire a Being who is so stupid that He takes our shortsighted foolishness for wisdom? What kind of weird trip are Christians on when they stand around singing about how God is in control when they don’t really think He’s in control at all?

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 27 Comments [8/7/2015 3:31:08 AM]
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Quote# 111531

Many people are under the mistaken impression that the political battle lines in America are Democrats vs. Republicans. Some even erroneously believe the battle lines are Liberal vs. Conservative.

But if you wish to understand modern politics in our country — if you want to make sense of the seemingly-irrational behaviors of both parties — consider the reality that the battle lines are actually Elitists vs. The People.

In 2014, Republicans were swept into office in the midterms, ostensibly to turn back Obamaism. Obamacare was to be repealed, or, at the least, relief was to be offered for the suffering the program is causing. Iran was to be denied resources for developing a nuclear weapon, or, at the least, slowed in that development. Obama’s penchant for going outside the bounds of the Constitution by sidestepping Congress with overreaching and illegal Executive Orders was to be halted, or, at the least, censured. Illegal alien invasion was to be stopped or curtailed, and violators were to be prosecuted and shipped back to their countries of origin.

Instead, the establishment Republicans re-elected the the Crying Cheeto John Boehner and Yertle the Turtle Mitch McConnell to head the two legislative bodies. As an aside: Have we ever had such freakish House and Senate leaders?. Led by those two feckless elitists, we got the following results:

On Obamacare, many repeal votes have failed. Most recently the Senate vote for repeal failed.
Per Iran’s quest for the atomic bomb, there has been no action by either party to stop an illegal “agreement” that went outside the bounds of the Constitutional treaty mechanisms. Though they claim to be “irked”, there is no followup action.
As regards Obama’s lawlessness and failure to heed the Constitution, no one in either legislative body has taken to the podium to denounce Barack’s dangerous behavior.
And on illegal alien invasion, not only are the House and Senate not forcefully demanding that illegal aliens be deported, they cannot even agree to deny illegal aliens drivers’ licenses and only barely rejected allowing illegal aliens into the military. Any student of the decline of Rome knows how bad an idea that would have been.
As a bonus — and even after videos surfaced that showed Planned Abortionhood ghoulishly selling the body parts of dead fetuses — the Senate blocked a vote to defund the ghastly enterprise.

The Republicans are acting in a manner most reminiscent of Democrats. It appears that there IS no difference between the two parties… none at all. That is what informed me that those are not the battle lines. That is not the divide. The two parties agree on most of the major issues we face today.

In the Republican grassroots, there was great frustration when the lack of opposition (by the establishment Republicans) to Democrat policies became apparent. There still is. There are murmurings of discontent on the far-left, as well, that the Democrats are only paying lip service to their important issues.

It has become quite clear that the real fight is that of Elitists against The People.

This explains the vigorous support and consistently-meteoric poll numbers that Donald Trump is seeing. Whether he is truly a Populist remains to be seen, but at minimum, he is speaking as one. This seldom-heard speech in Washington is appealing to a large number of people who feel ignored by the Elitist Party, be they Republican or Democrat. Donald Trump is even appealing to the Democrat-coveted minority population.

Ronald Reagan won as a Populist. He fought the Republican establishment, won the primary in 1980, and went on to become the most anti-big-government, anti-communist, pro-ordinary-citizen President in modern history. His sweeping re-election in 1984, capturing nearly every single state (including liberal ones), showed that Populist policies are popular even in liberal bastions. Of course, there will always be liberals that cling to Elitism, and those are usually the ones who favor Socialism or Communism.

I do not mean to compare Trump to Reagan in any way except to show that Trump’s populism is a winning strategy. It appears that — whatever Trump’s other faults, such as a recent political change-of-heart and his many personal issues over the years — Donald Trump does understand where the actual battle lines lie. His repeated disregard and dislike for the propaganda outlets called the ‘news media’, his brutal honesty, and his stated positions show a Populism that has not been seen in national politics for more than twenty years. This explains why many of us regard him as a breath of fresh air.

Elitists like Planned Abortionhood. That group helps to reduce the ‘surplus population’, as Ebenezer Scrooge once called it in Dickens’ novel. Elitists like Obamacare, with the Death Panels poised to deny treatment to ‘useless old people’. Elitists like Communism and/or Socialism, with its control over the masses and the tendency to gather wealth at the top. Elitists like big government and fascist police-state controls, to better keep the populace from rising up in anger.

Elitists like illegal alien invasion (and have encouraged it not only in America, but European nations), because that form of invasion dilutes national identities, erases borders, and leads the world to a nationless overall government. Elitists are using Islam’s threat to increase the police-state tactics in nation after nation. Elitists like Agenda 21, with the stated purpose of herding us into vast cities, where we can be more efficiently worked and better controlled.

If you have signed up on the sides of the Elitists, you have many choices, foremost among those being Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton. If you are on the side of the people, your choices can be only Ted Cruz or Donald Trump.

Lawrence Mayo, BarbWire 26 Comments [8/7/2015 3:22:59 AM]
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Quote# 111529

Some deliverance ministries have also suggested to anoint all items brought into the home with blessed olive oil, in an effort to cleanse all evil from it. Personally, our family has found that this can be a dangerous thing to do when it comes to anointing actual idols. (https://dreamsofdunamis.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/three-idol-encased-demons/) It also has not worked with other items that were cursed. For example, I purchased a new pillow from a store, and found it was giving me rashes and itchiness that made sleep difficult. We examined the pillow (my usual brand,) for any physical reasons for the reactions, but found nothing. Finally in prayer, the Lord told me that it had been previously purchased by a New Age Wiccan, and because it had been in her home for a few days, it was now considered unclean for me as a believer. Anointing this pillow with the blessed olive oil made no difference at all. The itchiness and rashes remained. When I exchanged it at the store for another one, (which the Lord told me to do,) the new one posed no problems at all. The itchiness and rashes were gone within 24 hours. I couldn’t just bless and keep the item in question. I had to remove it from my home.

Dreams of Dunamis, Dreams of Dunamis 27 Comments [8/7/2015 3:22:39 AM]
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Quote# 111527

If you've ever spoken with someone who was a serious drug addict, they can tell you of the demonic experiences they had while high on drugs. I have talked with such people who claim that they saw demons and unbelievable nightmares. Drugs and alcohol are gateways into the demonic spirit world. Those who engage in substance abuse are inviting demons to infiltrate and control their mind. Often, drug abuse is intentionally used in witchcraft to make contact with demons.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 17 Comments [8/7/2015 3:20:13 AM]
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Quote# 111526

Christian Universities: Will They Obey God or Man?

It's by design. As I, and others, have repeatedly warned, the establishment of so-called "gay marriage" as a newfangled federal "right," and the free exercise of religion as guaranteed by the First Amendment simply cannot coexist in harmony. Things diametrically at odds cannot possibly occupy, with any coherence, the same time and space.

The secular left is tripping over itself right now trying to prove my point. In wake of last month's Obergefell v. Hodges opinion - an opinion that somehow divined a top secret "constitutional right" for Patrick Henry to "marry" Henry Patrick" - liberals are now demanding, as both Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito predicted, that Christian universities immediately abandon recognition of, and obedience to, God's unequivocal natural sexual order, and adopt, instead, the new pagan orthodoxy.

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Christian universities must come together and facilitate homosexual sin, or lose, at once, both tax-exempt status and access to all students who choose to fund their education via federal loans and grants (which is most of them).

This presents quite a conundrum. It's also a test. Christian universities must either obey God, disobey man and suffer unsavory temporal consequences, or obey man, sell their souls for mammon and suffer a-little-more-than-unsavory eternal consequence.

[...]

It's really not that complicated. The Christian university that chooses the path of least resistance and conforms to the world - that is, disobeys God and adopts the world's morally relative (read: unbiblical) standards (or lack thereof) on sex and sexuality immediately becomes at enmity with God. The Christian university that intentionally turns a blind eye to sexual immorality of any kind, or otherwise allows and recognizes sin-based "same-sex marriage," ceases to be a Christian university and, instead, becomes an apostate university - a university better identified as "Christian in name only."

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If Christian universities wish to remain faithful, they must, instead, become pariahs.

They must obey God.

Matt Barber, Barb Wire 22 Comments [8/7/2015 3:20:06 AM]
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Quote# 111525

The constant bickering and fighting with progressives is tiresome and droll. I actually think the formation of conservative cities would be a blessing for we Americans that would simply say no to the alphabet offshoots of the gubmint, taxation without representation, overpaying civil servants and the forced extortion to give them what we can't afford for ourselves, Section 8 housing, welfare, medicaid, abortions, Monsanto, freebies of all kinds, and a host of other crimes against our nation that the federal gubmint forces upon our earned incomes. I would like to see entire states opt for "conservative only" status. I can envision the hoards of "refugees" from neighboring states begging to be allowed entrance after they ran out of other people's money. Of course, they would be turned away because of their own stupidity. Let's move on this idea....it is the perfect solution to the condition our condition is in.

dianecee, American Thinker 30 Comments [8/7/2015 3:18:10 AM]
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Quote# 111524

Fixed truths have been deconstructed and routed through a complex array of relativistic values. A decadent understands that murdering this baby right here is wrong, but can be taught that it is acceptable to trade parts of dead fetuses. For decadents in an information society, definitions are very important. Decadents and barbarians have an empathy that is triggered by cultural signals.

For barbarians, these signals are honor-shame kin-based. For decadents, the cultural signals are more complex group-based signals that are routed through complex intellectual justifications. These justifications naturally create their own unrecognized hypocrisies. Enemy civilians killed in a Republican’s war are a horrific atrocity. Those killed in a Democrat’s war don’t exist.

Groups are politicized and every moral code is routed through an identity politics based on insecurity. There are no morals, only sides. Responses are emotional to shortcut rational reasoning. Decadents function like barbarians, not because they are barbarians, but because their minds have been wired in complex ways by brilliantly dishonest men in academia to reduce them to barbarians.

A major difference between vigorous and decadent civilizations is objectivity and long term thinking. Decadents are incapable of either while vigorous civilizations thrive on both. If decadent civilizations could engage in long term thinking, they wouldn’t be doomed. If they could engage in objective reasoning, they wouldn’t be slaves to the media machines under a lawless tyranny.

The barbaric and vigorous civilizations speak little of sex and yet have high birth rates. Decadent civilizations are obsessed with sex and have few children. Perversions multiply in decadent civilizations, especially among the elites, who have the fewest morals, the most wealth and the greatest need for new taboos to violate. This is not a cause. It is only the symptom.

Gay marriage, like so much else, is the symptom of a decadent elite that confuses its own power and privilege with civil rights, that wants to legalize its illicit behaviors even though it only embarked on them because of their illicitness. In its perversity, it must find new taboos to violate each time an old one becomes socially accepted, before then embarking on a civil rights struggle to make its latest taboo socially acceptable so that one day it’s gay marriage and the next it’s men in dresses.

Barbarians have large families and a tolerance for limited personal space. They speak loudly, are more casual about the deaths of their children, and view success in terms of power. Decadents speak softly, have a high need for personal space, have small families while playing helicopter parents and view success in terms of their own unattainable happiness. Vigorous civilizations have medium sized families, speak loudly, view success in terms of personal accomplishment, are not too concerned about personal space and value their children while allowing them to take risks.

Decadents want emotional rewards without commitments. As a result they are constantly unhappy. They pursue happiness as if it were a quality that could be permanently obtained through the right techniques, rather than a shifting response to the rigors of daily life. The more decadents do this, the more unstable they become, obsessively self-medicating and attempting to otherwise set the conditions of their happiness by controlling its application, and blaming others for their failure.

The more deranged decadents search for those who deny them their right to happiness by failing to accept them, reward them or otherwise please them until they find meaning only in attacking others. Behind their venom is narcissistic self-pity, they are searching for revenge against a cruel world when they are the authors of their own unhappiness.

The decadent civilization senses inwardly that it has no future. It becomes obsessed with apocalypses. Its people are always fixated on the next great threat to their health individually and the next great disaster that will bring their civilization to its knees. While vigorous civilizations boldly stride forward into the unknown, decadents are nervous and unsure. They veer between comfort zones and ritualized displays of destructive behavior that accomplish nothing except the illusion of freedom.

Daniel Greenfield, BarbWire 17 Comments [8/7/2015 3:17:51 AM]
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Quote# 111523

[About an anti-bullying conference at Humboldt, Iowa, making courses deemed inappropriate]

Anti-bullying has ALWAYS (for the last 20 years or so) been about advancing sexual perversion in the schools.

If we had MORE bullying of perverts in training, we’d have far fewer messed up people in this world

John O, Free Republic 40 Comments [8/7/2015 3:17:19 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP