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Quote# 112223

Comedian and host of HBO’s Last Week Tonight John Oliver slammed televangelists on Sunday for their greed and extortion as they enjoy mass wealth as a result. To mock the government’s absence of regulation, Oliver started his own church, called “Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption,” naming himself “megapstor” and CEO.

Looks like Oliver struck a nerve. On Wednesday, Christian minister Jennifer LeClaire said Oliver shouldn’t “mock what you don’t understand,” calling him a “false reverend.”


LeClaire, who operates the Awakening House of Prayer, admitted there are abusive churches. But she does believe in the concept of “seed faith” — the idea that giving money to a church will result in returns for the giver.

“[W]e have to be careful not to paint everyone who believes for an airplane or sows a seed to get out of debt as a heretic,” she writes.

Oliver’s segment hilariously skewered preachers whose fantastic displays of wealth come at a large cost to parishioners who they compel to donate what little money they have. They tend to believe in the conveniently self-serving idea of prosperity as a sign of God’s favor.

“I do believe in supernatural debt cancellation,” LeClaire writes. “And I don’t believe we should mock so-called prosperity preachers, even if we don’t believe they hear from God. Nor do I believe we should insinuate that God is cursing at them, as Oliver did.”

These preachers, like Robert Tilton, Mike Murdock, Todd Coontz, Henry Fernandez and Creflo Dollar, live in multi-million dollar houses, take lavish vacations and own private jets while they instruct followers to go beyond their financial means to give them donations.

In a seven-month correspondence with Robert Tilton, Oliver was able to reveal that the church was basically a predatory financial scam.

Jennifer LeClaire, Raw Story 31 Comments [8/25/2015 3:13:25 AM]
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Submitted By: Kevin Klawitter

Quote# 112222

No Mr. Dawkins. Mike Huckabee demonstrates his Christian faith-based morality is truly Just and rational.

The moral decision is indeed simple. A raped 10-year-old does indeed suffer, by cause of the rapist, if anyone deserves to be killed it is him, the child conceived in the rape is not responsible. You would compound the suffering of that young girl with unimaginable guilt by having her partake of the unjust, irrational killing of her own innocent child; demonstrating how truly loathsome your atheist-based "morality" can be.

Please, for once be consistent. In that atheist-based "morality" of yours there is "no purpose, no evil and no good"— you came from a blob of bacteria no different from e coli, a product of nothing but blind, pitiless indifference, and to that blob you will return. Everything in between is random and meaningless; including your sanctimonious moral outrage.

"Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things." Romans 1

beccaj, The Christian Post 25 Comments [8/25/2015 3:10:27 AM]
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Quote# 112220

If Hollywood's movies, TV shows and cartoons hadn't had the multitude of 923/ 239 numbers and dates (like Evan Almighty, who built an ark and had to be done by 9/22 mid day- which is 9/23 Israel time).

If there was no "Jade Helm" going on, if the FED had not set up a secondary headquarters in Chicago because of destruction in NY, and no underground bunkers set- up for the elete to hide out in.

If Sept 23 was not the grand jubilee #120 and one jubilee from Israel retaking Jerusalem (to the exact day).

If the False Prophet Francis was not coming to the US to meet with the AC and the UN exactly during this time.

If his Vatican Jesuit Astronomer Guy Consolmagno wasn't working on their "Lucifer project" seeking to contact UFOs (fallen angels)..... the list goes on and on.

I would not have looked at this time so intently even though the AC is here.

Pocaracas, I see Stimbo agrees with you questions.
You heathens and Randy are amazingly far in the dark. I would have to have a lobotomy. to join you guys.
Another date? If this one falls thru- it is 2 strikes and one to go.
How can a real detective not look for clues in the biggest game of a lifetime?

No Rapture?
God doesn't lie- it's in the book.
He also declares he will do nothing EXCEPT He reveals His secret plan to his servants the prophets.
And the prophets are saying it is here- GET IN THE ARK NOW. (Jesus is Ark 2).

My personal convictions?
Have been unchanged for 4 decades, other apparent times have come and gone, I keep working, giving, helping different ones, occupying until He comes.
My spiritual calling is night watchman. It is still night.

professor, AtheistForums.org 17 Comments [8/25/2015 3:08:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Stimbo

Quote# 112217

Correct me if I'm wrong....

First cause:

We are part of the self-conscious universe. Our brains are the most complex things we know in the universe. We are parts of the universe that probe the universe and are fascinated by it, because being intelligent, we can also sense intelligence when it is there. We are able to create things in the small scheme, and we look for a creator on the grand scheme of things. The Cal Tech supercomputer can now make measurements 10 to the 23rd power. It has been estimated by astronomers that the complexity of the universe in simply balancing gravity against the electric force needs calculations a hundred trillion times more precise. And this is just one aspect of the universe that without which life could never happen.

The Universe had a beginning. It is no longer believed to be infinite. This was shown by the Big Bang theory. Time itself had a beginning (see the "beginning of time"" by Stephen Hawkins). Space, time and matter had a beginning!

This is important to your question because it was a commonly held idea that life initially came about on earth by chance form atoms assembling to form molecules and proteins, cells, to reproducing life by random chance over an infinite amount of time, over an infinite amount of rolls of dice on a seemingly infinite number of earth-like planets. We now know that time is not infinite. And neither is matter. There are very strict requirements for the existence of life in the expanding universe, and our Earth in our 21st century is extremely lucky in that regard. Yes, we are star dust. Flourine in our bodies can only form as dust from a dying star is pulled off by the gravity of a nearby dying star, and a third planet is around to cross the path of this star dust. There are an estimated 41 of fine tuned conditions like these that are needed for life to exist on a planet. A chance in a billion trillions.

This is crucial because, like seeing an exploding grenade and asking, "who pulled the pin?", we are asking, Who or what caused this????

And the answer is, if there is a cause for the Big Bang and the beginning of time, space and matter, and life itself, it is GROSSLY INTELLIGENT.

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Deistic deity.
Since space, matter and time had a beginning, the Cause of it must have existed OUTSIDE of space, matter and time.
So the question, "if God created the universe who created God?" does not apply. That's because something beyond space and time has no need to begin to exist, but is rather in eternal existence.

Hence... we come to theology
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Theistic god:
If the material universe has a beginning and is finite and it has a cause, the cause must be immaterial. Hence, theologians have been saying since thousands of years that God is immaterial (God is spirit). And if this Origin of space and time is outside of space and time, it can also be omnipresent.

And a God of Love:
The total mass of the universe acts as a catalyst for nuclear fusion. The more massive the cosmos, the more efficient nuclear fusion. If the Universe is too massive, the basic elements Oxygen, Nitrogen and Carbon could not form. If the Universe was too small, we would be stuck with only Hydrogen. But the Universe is exploding from a miniscule beginnings of an immensely immense mass. The time for life to form is exactly now. Its taken 14 billion years. Now, the exact position and mass of a billion stars allows life to form on this miniscule planet. OUR life. Hence... the Creator is loving since the price He paid for life to form on earth can be seen in the brilliance of a billion stars in the night sky. Just as Abraham gazed at the night sky and conversed with God, leading him out for the Promised Land.

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Abrahamic god:
The Abrahamic God out of all the religious texts is the only one that is said to be outside of space and time. The "Alpha and the Omega. The beginning and the end." We are mostly material beings so we can't even define Him completely. It is He who defines Himself, telling Moses, "I AM WHO I AM".

What's more, Jesus Christ, also said of Himself:
"Truly, truly I say to you, Before Abraham was, I AM" (i.e. he is above the limits of time. Those who heard him recognized the blatent message and vowed to kill him for blasphemy. And he walked on water. The message? He is beyond matter.)

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Your particular abrahamic god: Jesus Christ - The God of Love. The one who became one of us, in the greatest event in human history.

your particular denomination's god
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I am Catholic. That means I rely on nature, science, divine revelation and tradition- the experience of scholars and leaders since 2000 years. Combine everything to make a final conclusion. I grew up as a Catholic but it took 33 years to be able to express this huge thing.

And I pray. Prayer is just mindfulness of the presence of the Creator through introspection. Introspection is looking inward, though our inner eyes to our deepest desires and longings. And our deepest core that longs for our Creator.

"Deep is calling on Deep in the churning of the waters. Your waves have swept over me." Psalm 42.

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your personal version of this god: For that I am figuring out who I am, and that will take a lifetime.




Really, really pretty please? ._.

(I realize that the last two may be the same thing depending on the circumstances, so feel free to merge them if you like)

ronkonkoma, AtheistForums.org 22 Comments [8/25/2015 3:06:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Stimbo

Quote# 112214

Dawkins then wandered outside and began to talk randomly to passersby, saying more obvious things about Islam, but once again needlessly bashing Christianity and Judaism. He then soiled his trousers and stared blankly at a parking meter for nearly 5 minutes. When a pedestrian stopped to ask him if he was okay, he responded, "I don't know where I am", at which point he sucked in his own drool and soiled his trousers a second time.

MuggleBorn, The Christian Post 32 Comments [8/24/2015 2:00:39 PM]
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Quote# 112213

I don't argue about God's version of creation. I just choose to believe it. The brilliant atheists of CP amuse me. They don't believe in God. They don't believe in a creator yet they're here nonstop daily to tell us what they don't believe in. I have to admit it's the strangest group(s) of people I've encountered. The homoatheists of CP being here is clearly God's way of giving my day a laugh.

Dwight Daniels, The Christian Post 18 Comments [8/24/2015 1:59:59 PM]
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Quote# 112212

you can even be a kindergarten drop out and still know how ridiculous the theory of evolution is .. it does take a scientist,,, Evolution is all about some how.. some how life began by a big bang and some how that life became all different species and not only that some how all those species figured out they better be males and females in it so it can reproduce.. and some how some of the species became evolutionary scientist that think there smart but believe this nonsense..

epitome, The Christian Post 32 Comments [8/24/2015 1:59:07 PM]
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Quote# 112211

Evolution of Life is an antiscience religion from ancient Egypt and Charles Darwin. There is categorically no evidence of the scientific possibility of evolution of life from the simple to the complex life forms. True evolution is devolutionary, General degradation, mutations, of the dying gene pools or previously programmed DNA genotype expressions that resonate to exist in the changing ecosystem variables.

The public educational system is a trillion dollar juggernaut smashing truth, facts and ridiculing Christian World Views everywhere and in any way it can, making the students into fools, with its massive state propaganda machine, media and lies.

Evolutionists such as Dawkins, confess the truth that life could not have originated on earth. But as the evolutionists and students are taught to believe lies and marginalize truth and the facts, the Father of Lies, Satan gets a hold on their minds and lives they are trapped in irrational worldview paradigms that are fairly easy to expose for the foolish ideas they are in reality. However "No Facts Are Allowed" to disqualify evolutionary biology from the simple to the complex life forms it dogmatically indoctrinates in the unwary children

An evolutionary philosopher is so disconnected from reality that there is probably no hope of eternal life for him. The only hope is for him to say a prayer in faith with his heart to ask Jesus to forgive him and ask Him and the Holy Spirit to dwell in his heart forever.

The Space/Time/Energy/Matter laws, subatomic particle structure and design of the fabric of this universe are all carefully designed, there is categorically no possibility of random evolutionary designs from "multi universes" or from some other such chaotic irrationality.

WWJD? Jesus would advocate Christian Law so to save some of the 94% of the students who are turned from believing in Jesus and the truth of the Holy Bible by the State Religions they are indoctrinated with, including the antiscience religion of evolution of life from ancient Egypt and Charles Darwin.

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RevWilliam, The Christian Post 25 Comments [8/24/2015 1:58:57 PM]
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Quote# 112209

A secular ontological proof of the existence of your future home, lest you repent:

1. Every natural innate human desire has a corresponding satisfying object in reality. (e.g., thirst has the object of water, hunger has the object of food, love has the object of persons and dogs, like me :-), knowledge has the object of reality perceived through our five senses plus the enormous complexity-resolving hardware and software of our brain, etc) (observation and human experience)

2. Humans possess a natural innate desire for objective moral justice to be satisfied. (human psychology; in fact, this desire is so strong that even many atheists will utter the phrase “Go to Hell”)

3. Therefore, objective moral justice exists. (1,2 Modus Ponens)

4. If objective moral justice exists, then it exists for everyone – otherwise, it would not be objective, moral, or justice. (definition of objective moral justice)

5. Therefore, objective moral justice exists for everyone. (4,3 Modus Ponens)

6. If objective moral justice exists for everyone, then it must exist in this life or a potential afterlife for everyone. (complete disjunction on potential human existence)

7. Therefore, objective moral justice must exist in this life or an afterlife for everyone. (6,5 Modus Ponens)

8. For some persons, objective moral justice is not satisfied in this lifetime. (e.g., Hitler, Stalin, Mao, unrepentant abortion "doctors," abortuary deathscorts, etc) (observation regarding heinous atrocities whose perpetrators never received OMJ in this life)

9. Therefore, for some persons, objective moral justice is satisfied in an afterlife. (simple cancellation)

10. Therefore, objective moral justice exists in an afterlife, i.e., Hell exists. (existential generalization)

(Special thanks to the following atheist-agnostics, and others unnamed, who provided constructive criticisms helping me to identify hidden steps: Elie, markb, Unrepentant Atheist, and Disqusdmnj. Any remaining errors are mine and mine alone.)

WorldGoneCrazy, Christian News Network 30 Comments [8/24/2015 1:58:31 PM]
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Quote# 112208

If anyone has been thinking that the majority of people are living moral lives before God, then they are living in a fantasy world. There is more sinning going on than this hacked breach exposes. Count on it. However, this doesn't excuse the hackers who took what didn't belong to them and disseminated the information to the public. These hackers are a danger to everyone. There is no justification for this data breach based on the victims being adulterers. These hackers are immoral, and people are passively sweeping this Truth aside.

I suspect there are some, whose information has been exposed, who will seek these hackers out to pay them back. The Department of Justice should be doing all it can to find these hackers and charge them for the crime they have committed before they go after another company they deem to be too morally corrupt - which includes many, many people and organizations.

FoJC_Forever, Christian News Network 16 Comments [8/24/2015 1:58:21 PM]
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Quote# 112207

Every person has been given the same Promise from God through Jesus (the) Christ. ~~ 1 John 1:8-10, 1 Timothy 1:15, Hebrews 12:1-13 ~~ The LORD came to save people from Sin. This means Christians have committed sins and still have the potential for committing them. It's not the confession before people that forgives and cleanses Sin, it's the confession to the LORD. If Duggar truly knows the LORD, then he can be cleansed and forgiven. The power of God to restore is absolutely amazing.

The good fight of Faith to lay hold of Eternal Life is an ongoing battle. No one who has fallen should lay down in shame, but get back up and go to the Throne of Grace to find help in their time of need. The world will scoff and accuse, but they have rejected Salvation and their words have no weight before God. No Christian should ever let their own Sin or the sinful, unbelieving words of others keep them from the mercy and forgiveness offered by the LORD Jesus (the) Christ.

No one who declares the Truth that homosexuality is Sin is a person who is without the flesh (carnal nature). We aren't the Judge, God is the Judge. Duggar's actions are sinful, but this doesn't mean that homosexuals are free and clear before God, or that Marriage has changed from being what God intended -- a life long union between one man and one woman.

One thing that seems to be pushed into the shadows is the criminal actions of the people who hacked this site. While the site stands for something completely sinful, this doesn't give anyone the right to hack it or other sites of this nature. Two wrongs don't make a right. These people should be tracked down and punished for their breach into anothers property.

FoJC_Forever, Christian News Network 20 Comments [8/24/2015 1:58:11 PM]
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Quote# 112200

This morning, just two days after Iowa talk radio host Jan Mickelson caused a national controversy when he suggested that states enslave undocumented immigrants who refuse to leave, asking, “What’s wrong with slavery?,” Sen. Ted Cruz joined Mickelson’s program to discuss his upcoming rally in Iowa which will bring together various supposed victims of anti-Christian persecution.

Mickelson asked Cruz to discuss his fight against the “brazenness of the atheist Taliban” and the fact that “anytime they furrow their brow at anyone [people] fold up and go home and give them what they want.”

Cruz, who has previously railed against what he called a gay “jihad" against Christians, apparently liked Mickelson’s phrase, and took it up while describing his work fighting against church-state separation efforts.

“There is an assault on faith and an assault on religious liberty that we see across this country and it has never been as bad as it is right now,” he said, claiming that “radical atheists and liberals” are “driving any acknowledgment of God out of the public square.”

“There are these zealots — as you put it, the atheist Taliban — that seek to tear down any acknowledgment of God in the public square, and it’s contrary to our Constitution, it’s contrary to who we are as a people.”

Ted Cruz, Jan Mickelson, Right Wing Watch 17 Comments [8/24/2015 1:54:02 PM]
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Submitted By: Yuu

Quote# 112199

"Yeah, but what makes you think that pants are a man’s garment?"

Good question. I have a four part answer to this which demonstrates that pants always pertain to men, even today.

1. "Breeches" were an article of clothing designed by God for the priests who were all men. The word does not occur very often in scripture, but in every case it’s men’s apparel (Exodus 28:42, Leviticus 6:10, 16:4). According to my Hebrew lexicon, "breeches" means "trousers that extend to the knee, below the knee, or to the ankles." This would include pants, shorts, or culottes.
2. Until the advent of Hollywood and the movie screen, everyone (including lost people) knew that pants were men’s apparel and dresses were women’s apparel, and they dressed accordingly. Our culture’s (and sadly most churches’) acceptance of cross-dressing has resulted largely from the influence of television, the placement of women in the workforce, and the pressures of twentieth century feminism.
3. The universal symbol for designating a men’s bathroom is a stick figure wearing a pair of pants. The universal symbol for designating a woman’s bathroom is a stick figure wearing a dress. Coincidence? Hardly. Even our sinful society recognizes that there is a difference in a man’s and woman’s clothing.
4. Pants are a symbol of authority, as evidenced by the saying " I’m the one who wears the pants in the family." Sadly, most women might as well wear the pants, since they rule their homes anyway!


Brother Potter, Divided by Truth 27 Comments [8/24/2015 1:53:25 PM]
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Submitted By: TimeToTurn

Quote# 112198

It is unscriptural for men to shower naked around other men, let alone in the presence of young boys. This Scripture passage makes this clear. It is not good for men to see each other naked, as evidenced by the pederast homosexual problem. The Romans were infamous for pederasts (men having sex with boys). Socrates, the famous Greek philosopher, was a pederast homosexual.

There is nothing manly about men disrespecting one another by walking around naked in the shower room. It is proper and right for men to show respect for the body, and toward their fellow mankind, by clothing the body. It is more than coincidence that initiates into Luciferian occult groups are required to perform acts of homosexuality as part of their initiation rights. The purpose for this is to debase each other, removing all bastions of decency and reservation between one another. In all sexual relations, even if with a prostitute for a few minutes, a soul-tie is formed between the two people (whether male or female) involved in the act. This is one of the spiritual dangers of sexual immorality, which undermines one's entire soul's health. Proverb 6:32, “But whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding: he that doeth it destroyeth his own soul.”

I heard an internet radio commercial today advertising the product, “AGELESS MALE,” guaranteed to boost testosterone for men by 61%. Then the advertiser said, “Get back in the game!” That's not why I wrote this article, but the timing was perfect for this article, because it evidences the sinful and irresponsible attitude of society today toward sexual relations. Get back in the game??? Sadly, sex is a game to many people!!! This is the horrible consequence of America's sexually-indecent television programming, promiscuous sitcoms, perverted Late Night comedy shows and TV in general.

I don't watch TV because it is too evil. So when I do occasionally see a TV show on someone else's TV in a hotel or at a restaurant, I am absolutely shocked and angered by what I see and hear. If you watch TV all-the-time, you won't see just how evil it is, because you are sinking into the abyss of wickedness with the hellivision. I guarantee you that if you turn off your television for 6-months that you'll be absolutely shell-shocked when you turn it back on. I hate TV!

It is common practice in health clubs, YMCA's and locker-rooms across America for men to shower naked in the presence of other men, and to walk around naked and let it all hang out. It is uncouth, tasteless, lacking of respect for each other and unscriptural. The same is true of women's locker-rooms. Historically, sports and public nudity have always been synonymous. The Greeks were famous for sports and infamous for nudity.

Genesis 9:21-27 teach us several important life-changing and moral lessons. We see that alcoholic beverages are spiritually dangerous, linked to nakedness and sin. Noah sinned by getting drunk and led his son to sin by doing so. Don't think that Noah didn't think about that either. Noah had to live with the division created between him and his son because of booze. Alcohol brought shame upon Noah. Noah had to live from that day forward knowing that Ham saw him naked and drunk. Although Noah knew he was forgiven in Christ, he caused permanent division between he and his son, Ham.

We also see that Ham sinfully paraded his father's sins, instead of faithfully concealing the matter. America's history books, Wikipedia and newspapers are filled with what husbands and wives have hypocritically said about each other during and after a divorce. The next time you hear a woman talking about how evil her husband is ask her how she obtained perfection. The Bible warns against condemning anyone. James 4:12, “There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?”

By the way, I hate Wikipedia. I've noticed that celebrity profiles (like George Clooney) are locked, but gospel preacher's profiles are open for every snake, rat and God-hating trash to slander and serve roast preacher. Wikipedia is a sewer of American society and Jimmy Wales will give account to God for helping spread malicious gossip. Wikipedia is a weapon. It's easy for some worm who never built a hot-dog stand to throw rocks at a faithful preacher who gave his life to others in the Lord for 50-years, helping literally millions of people in so many ways and changing a nation for God.

David J. Stewart, Jesus Is Savior 31 Comments [8/24/2015 1:53:14 PM]
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Submitted By: TimeToTurn

Quote# 112197

The Old Paths

I liked the old paths when Moms stayed home
And dads went at work.

Brothers went into the army.
And sisters got married BEFORE having children!

Crime did not pay but hard work did,
And people knew the difference.

Moms could cook, dads would work
and children would behave.

Husbands were loving, wives were supportive,
And children were polite.

Women wore the jewelry, and Men wore the pants.
Women looked like ladies, and men looked like gentlemen;
And children looked decent.

People loved the truth and hated a lie,
They came to church to get IN not to get OUT!

Hymns sounded Godly, Sermons sounded helpful;
Rejoicing sounded normal, and crying sounded sincere.

Cursing was wicked and drugs were for illness.
The flag was honored, America was beautiful
And God was welcome!

We read the Bible in public, prayed in school
And preached from house to house.

To be called an American was worth dying for,
To be called a Christian was worth living for,
To be called a traitor was a shame!

Preachers preached because they had a message,
And Christians rejoiced because they had the VICTORY!

Preachers preached from the Bible,
Singers sang from the heart and sinners turned to the
Lord to be SAVED!

A new birth meant a new life,
Salvation meant a changed life,
Trusting Christ gave us eternal life.

Laws were based on the Bible, homes read the Bible
And churches taught the Bible.

God was worshiped, Christ was exalted
And the Holy Spirit was respected.

Church was where you found Christians
On the Lord's day, rather than in the garden,
On the creek bank, on the golf course,
Or being entertained somewhere else.

I still like the old paths the best!

David J. Stewart, Jesus Is Savior 29 Comments [8/24/2015 1:53:08 PM]
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Submitted By: TimeToTurn

Quote# 112195

[On the "Feminism is a dirty house" essay]

The destructive actions of the deceitful hate movement now metastasized into the cancerous pustule we know as feminism today is the reason I pro-actively seek to bring its house down as well. A house built on lies cannot stand. A lucid, thoughtful and well-written essay.

Anonymous, The Counter-Feminist 13 Comments [8/24/2015 4:11:29 AM]
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Quote# 112190

I would like to share with you part of a testimony of a saved person who once served the devil. When I heard him give his testimony it so challenged me I did not want to believe it. I had to fast before the Lord for ten days, asking Him, "Lord, is this true?" It was at that time the Lord began to teach me the things that take place in the spiritual realm when we pray.

This man was born after his parents had dedicated themselves to lucifer. When he was still in the womb, they performed many rituals to dedicate him to the service of lucifer. When he was four years old, he began to exercise his spiritual power, and his parents began to fear him. When he was six years old, his father brought him to some witches for them to train him. And by the time he was ten years old, he was doing tremendous exploits for the kingdom of the devil. He was feared by the common witches.

He was still a young boy, but he was so terrible in the things he did. He grew to be a young man in his twenties with a lot of blood on his hands. He killed at will. He had the ability to leave his body through transcendental meditation. And he could levitate; at times his body would rise off the ground and hang in midair. Sometimes he would go into a trance and leave his body; his body would remain behind while he went out into the world, by a practice called “astro-travelling.” He was used by satan to destroy or divide many churches, and to ruin many pastors.

One day, he was assigned to destroy a church that was full of prayer. There had been much division in this church, and much confusion. He began to work against it, but at that time, the pastor called a fast for the whole church. As the church began to fast, there was much repentance and a lot of reconciliation. The people came together and began to pray for the Lord to work in their midst. They continued interceding and crying out to God to have mercy on them and to intervene in their lives. As the days went by, the man came again and again against the church with demon spirits. But a word of prophecy came forth telling the Christians to rise up and wage warfare against the powers of darkness that were attacking the church.

So one day, the man left his body in his room to go astro-travelling. He led a powerful force of demonic spirits against the church. Now this is his testimony: His spirit moved through the air over the church and tried to attack it, but there was a covering of light over the church. Suddenly, an army of angels attacked them and fought against them in the air. All the demons fled, but he was arrested by the angels.

Yes, arrested by the angels! He found himself being held by about six angels. They brought him through the roof right before the church altar. He just appeared there as the people were praying. They were deep in prayer, engaged in spiritual warfare, binding and breaking and casting out. The pastor was on the platform leading the prayers and the warfare. The Spirit of the Lord spoke to the pastor, "The yoke has been broken, and the victim is there before you. Help him through deliverance." As the pastor opened his eyes, he saw the young man lying there. His body was with him; he was in his body. The young man said that he doesn't know how his body joined him; he had left it back in his house. But there he was in his body. He didn't know how he had entered it; all he knew was that the angel had carried him through the roof.

Now these things are difficult to believe. The pastor silenced the church and told them what the Lord had spoken to him, and then asked the young man, "Who are you?" The young man was trembling as the demons began coming out of him. So they prayed for his deliverance, and afterwards he began to share his story. The young man has now come to the Lord, and is an evangelist preaching the gospel. He is being used by the Lord mightily in setting other people free through deliverance.

Divine Revelations, Divine Revelations 28 Comments [8/24/2015 3:51:28 AM]
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Submitted By: skybison

Quote# 112187

It is disappointing how inaccurate this review is. A notable thing that this blogger typed out was that the straight couple in the convenience store was harassing the homosexual couple. That did not happen. Secondly, the blogger twists many of Ray's and Peter's words to make them sound like hateful pieces of trash. That was expected. The biggest thing I noticed is that the blogger says that Christians have this weird idea that speaking out against homosexuality gets you more oppressed than if you didn't. My friend, I'm not sure if you keep up with statistics, but the number of people who support same-sex marriage in this nation has risen to around 56%. Whether you want to believe it or not, true Bible-believing Christians are a very small minority. God help this nation. Please watch the movie again, and instead of calling everything Ray and Peter say "homophobic" and "anti-gay", please try being a little more objective. God bless.

Ariahn Zirmohn, pathos 33 Comments [8/24/2015 3:45:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 10

Quote# 112186

To be clear, I am not exactly Humphrey Bogart myself. I grew up to be even less of a man than I thought I would. I don't go to office. I don't wear a suit. I don't go to see the philharmonic, smoke a pipe or wear pajamas. I have not read one book about the Civil War. Instead of disciplining my son, I explain why his misbehaviour won't get him ahead in the world. My son is two.

What I didn't figure on, however, was that the rest of my generation would mature even less than I did.

I am a grown man and I am regularly asked by other men - some of whom are 40 or older - if I've seen movies about the Hulk, Captain America and Thor. Some of these men proudly tell me they frequent comic-book stores. People are aghast when I don't know current rules governing vampires and zombies. I go to dinner parties where I am served cupcakes. Every time I'm excited about a new restaurant opened by one of the world's most talented chefs, I find out it is selling burgers, pizza or hot dogs.

I live in a society in which childless adult couples see Pixar movies on dates, get married inside Cinderella's castle at Disney World, play Angry Birds on their phones and read The Hunger Games. Dad I know go to Phish concerts where they do drugs, dance pass around giant balloons and listen to fucking Phish. One guy I know who has a great job and a great wife also has a great life-size Star Wars Stormtrooper in his screening room. Even before the Great Recession, it was totally normal for people to live at home for a few years after college and then, after moving out, remain on their parents' cell phone plan.

In no society in history would I be an acceptable adult: I write penis jokes (almost) for a living, can't fix anything in my house and have a vocabulary that consist mostly of the words cool, awesome, psyched and bummer.

Modern popular culture is even worse than reality. Sure, the heroes of Judd Apatow movies mature, but they clear a pretty low bar: Seth Rogen gives up pot to raise his baby; Jason Segel gets married after five years of engagement; Steve Carell hides his collectible toys to lose his virginity at 40. If our grandfathers could see us, the wouldn't beat us up. They'd spank us.

We are indeed the softest generation. If we'd have to fight WW2, we would have come up with reasons the Germans weren't that bad. That's right: We have become so soft we're French.

To be clear, I am not asking men to be History Channel reality-show stars- hunting, camping, heli-logging and doing other things that don't have much to do with history. I just want them to read a book without wizards in it, listen to a song that isn't about going to a club and sometimes wear clothing other than jeans. It's gotten so bad that even the president of Iran doesn't wear a tie. And Iran is not casual country.

This extreme childishness wear better on women who can get away with cutesiness longer than we can. Sure, they can go too far and wind up as one of those ladies who go pack the back window of their cars with Beanie Babies. But the abnegation of responsibility is the antithesis of manliness. And yes, that's how adults are supposed to talk.

So how can we become a men again and reverse this pussification?

I do not know.

IndyBrodaSolo, r/TheRedPill 37 Comments [8/24/2015 3:42:05 AM]
Fundie Index: 17

Quote# 112184

A Spanish public broadcaster accused Jews of promoting Satanism.

The assertion was the focus of a radio program titled "From the Inferno - The Jewish People: Propagator of the Satan Cult" aired last month by the state-owned RTVE broadcaster as part of its weekend "A la Carta" program.

The program begins with ominous music, followed by a gravel-voiced announcer who quotes from Jacob Frank, an 18th century Jew from Poland who had been excommunicated by his community for his heretical Kabbalistic theology. "The Jews first propagated the cult of Lucifer in several secret satanic societies," the monologue continued.

"Through black magic, the Israelites called on the powers of darkness with demonic rationale," the announcer continues.

The synopsis on RTVE's website for the 30-minute program states: "The Jewish founders of the occult and masonry society introduced the cult of Lucifer" to some organizations.

[...]

On Thursday, "A La Carta" aired another broadcast about Satanism by Vatican societies.

"A La Carta" , The Times of Israel 21 Comments [8/24/2015 3:38:27 AM]
Fundie Index: 13

Quote# 112181

When I say that feminists are barbarians, I mean that in the strongest possible sense: they are literally destroying our society, brick by brick. Let's take a look at the highlight reel.

-Abortion
-Genital Mutilation (euphemized as "transsexuality")
-No-fault Divorce
-The de-stigmatization of promiscuity
-The wholesale destruction of the American Family
-Same sex mirage (no, that's not a typo)

I could go on and on. In fact, nearly every crisis in modern western civilization traces its roots in a straight line back to Feminism. It takes concerted effort to produce a modern crisis that has not been caused by Feminism. Feminism is the most destructive idea in the history of the world, even surpassing Communism (a truly amazing feat, given that Communism murdered 200 million people).

Tim Dukeman, Deeper than Sound-Bites 19 Comments [8/24/2015 3:26:37 AM]
Fundie Index: 18

Quote# 112180

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A new study says that Republicans are happier with their marriages. At the risk of sounding self-congratulatory, this is completely predictable. If you believe (as Republicans do) that marriage is:

1. A sacred covenant
2. A lifelong vow
3. The fundamental building block of society

...marriage will be important to you, you'll take it seriously, and you'll do it better. If you believe (as Democrats do) that marriage is primarily:

1. A vehicle for grand social experiments.
2. A temporary arrangement that should be able to be dissolved at any time for any reason.

...then we shouldn't be surprised when your marriage isn't nearly as successful as the person who views it as a sacred, lifelong covenant upon which (collectively) the fate of our entire society rests. Actions follow beliefs.

Specifically, Democrats don't think marriage is important, and that translates to them not viewing their own marriage as being nearly as significant as Republicans do. It isn't remotely surprising that this produces measurably worse outcomes.

Tim Dukeman, Deeper than Sound-Bites 21 Comments [8/24/2015 3:26:31 AM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 112179

GRAPHIC: “He Had a Beating Heart” – Planned Parenthood Harvests Brain of Child



In the 7th video released by investigative journalists from The Center for Medical Progress, Planned Parenthood officials admit to doing “custom abortions to get a superior product.” What does this actually mean? They are willing to alter their abortion procedures (which is illegal, by the way) so that they can obtain baby brains intact, and then sell them for a steep price.

It is absolutely disgusting!!

The Center for Medical Progress describes their video footage:

In this new video, which some people are calling the most disturbing yet, former harvesting technician Holly O’Donnell describes how the heart of a late-term baby boy at Planned Parenthood’s mega-clinic in San Jose, CA started beating again after her supervisor tapped on it. Holly was then told to cut through the baby’s face to get his brain.

CMP investigators learned during the 2.5-year-long Human Capital study that born-alive infants are a shockingly common phenomenon in the abortion industry. It is made more common when fetal organs are being harvested because doctors must not poison the baby, yet also extract him or her as intact as possible—intact, an intact and live delivery is the outrageous “best case scenario” for organ harvesting.

Here is the new video:

Human Capital - Episode 3: Planned Parenthood's Custom Abortions for Superior Product

How can someone look into the precious face of a murdered baby and only see dollar signs? How can they possibly bring themselves to cut that baby’s face open to retrieve brains? It is mind-boggling to me!

And yet it is happening all the time in Planned Parenthood clinics.

Please share this latest video and continue demanding that this evil be stopped! We can’t be silent until these precious babies are seen for what they actually are – human beings with infinite worth and dignity.

Bristol Palin, Patheos 36 Comments [8/24/2015 3:26:07 AM]
Fundie Index: 10
Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 112178

Last fall, there was a really bad car accident just a few miles from where we live. The road at this particular place winds back and forth, and is quite narrow. However, it is paved, which leads some people to think that they can take the turns too fast. Well one day, a car came around the bend so fast, (a fancy sports car, no less, reported to be going WAY over the speed limit,) that it veered into the on coming lane in order to make the turn. Sadly, another family of adults was in a car in that very lane, right when the guy went into their lane. A head on collision resulted.

The crash was so bad, that the bodies were thrown from the cars. So much blood was lost from their injuries, that the dark stains covered three car lengths long of pavement on one side, and another car length on the other side of the road.

We came upon the accident scene, right as the tow trucks came to remove all the car parts.

There was so much blood there, that it pooled in places where the road had sunk.

My kids gasped as we passed the accident scene, and I figured it was because they had seen the multitude of car pieces along the side, all smashed up. (Neither car was left, just car parts.) But instead, one of them spoke up for the others and said “mom, those people who spilled their blood on that pavement were NOT believers!”

I thought the comment kind of odd, so I asked them, “How can you tell?”

“Demons are there. They are attracted to all the spilled blood.” At this, all the kids gave their nod of agreement.

“But how can you tell if they were believers or not?”

The child who had spoken just shrugged. “I just know.”

Dreams of Dunamis, Dreams of Dunamis 23 Comments [8/24/2015 3:25:56 AM]
Fundie Index: 19

Quote# 112175

I heard a guy on the radio trying to push the idea that Jews and Arabs believe in the same God of Abraham, but this guy sinfully tries to sugarcoat Islam. It confuses people. May I say, ISLAM IS OF THE DEVIL!!!! The God of Abraham is Jesus Christ, the Lord (Genesis 15:6, Who neither Judaism not Islam receive.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 28 Comments [8/24/2015 3:24:53 AM]
Fundie Index: 11
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