Quote# 132759

Horror visions "2050" - what their ideals are

The committee for "lacking development" was created in 2001 by the government and gets financed for about 4 million euros because of a decree in the German Bundestag. It serves the sustainibility. Members of the commitee are "people from public life", voted Church representatives, high-ranking business people, politicians, nature protection officials and important media people. The leader of the committee is Marlehn Thieme, who is also in the committee of the Evangelic church and who is, fittingly, also the chief of the ZDF-television committee. Magot Käßmann was also a member of this illustrious club.

In 2011 this organ has published a writing with texts from people, which should describe the ideal state for the year 2050. A world that should describe the ideal situation of the year 2050 - a world, that apparently matches the ideals of the rulers, that finance the efforts of people with tax payers money.

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A comment on this is something I will let my viewers do. Only one thing: European superstate, then world government, global language, family alienation, borderlessness, unified people, abolition of marriage, free choice of drugs, limitless basic income for all people in the world, trustworthiness of families, decoupling of genetic parents, everyone is a parent. All of this for the lacking "Saving" of the world.

SELBERDENKER, PI News 6 Comments [10/8/2017 4:13:40 PM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 132756

OP has seemingly no concept or understanding of oppressive systems and how they work. The very worst that can come of what OP is complaining about is cis men getting their feelings hurt. Not a big deal. If an individual is a member of an oppressive class, then they are an oppressor. Personal convictions are not sufficient enough to undo kyriarchal socialization alone.

Oppressors are responsible for the harm of their own ignorance, they are personally and individually accountable for damaging (and ending) the lives of the oppressed. The onus is on them, not the oppressed, to educate and inform themselves so they aren't harming others. To claim otherwise absolves them of all responsibility for their harm. Nowhere in history where minorities have made gains and leaps, did it come about from babying their oppressors.

CelestialSeraphir, r/asktransgender 9 Comments [10/8/2017 12:23:57 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132755

(For context, this post is in response to a cis/not trans poster saying the original poster's post, which said that all cis people should apologize to trans people for "systematic transphobia", was wrong because not all cis people are transphobic)

And I get that. But no matter how "usually liberal and inclusive" you are in your "run-ins" with trans people, supporting trans equity and trans rights includes understanding that sometimes trans people get frustrated with cis people and it means not immediately dismissing our concerns with a #notallcis argument. I'm sure you're actually a great person. And I'm not here to judge you, condemn you, or come for you in any way.

In fact I really appreciate cis people who support our work. But the fact is our work is uncomfortable and difficult and we can't do our work if we're also constantly trying to coddle cis people's fragility and not "alienate" or otherwise discomfit cis people.

ohanothatransgirll, r/asktransgender 6 Comments [10/8/2017 12:23:47 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132751

Gay, Bisexual, Lesbian, and Trans-sexual Gentiles, properly known as the Third Sex, have always served as a creative force for Gentile Pagan [Satanic] civilizations. The Jewish poisons of Judeo/Christianity, Islam, and their twin, Communism, have destroyed all of this to the point that many of today's modern Third Sex people have no recollection of their sacred Satanic past or have any idea of their future roles in rescuing our Gentile peoples from Jewish world domination.

The purpose of this website is to wake as many Third Sex Gentiles [non-Jews] from their current Marxist comas as possible, and return these children of Satan to their natural Pagan roles as civilization-builders and maintainers of Gentile cultures. This is much more serious than most people realize, and time is of the essence.

The Jewish people have absolutely no culture or civilization of their own. It is high time that we stop allowing them to steal from ours. It is our Satanic duty to usher in Satan's Kingdom on Earth. This is National Socialism, which in its true and original Pagan form, is accepting of the Third Sex population. The only way we can do this is to awaken all Gentiles and stick together within our respective racial communities and utterly destroy Judeo/Christianity, Islam, and Communism in every form that they come in. The end of these kosher institutions is the end of the Jewish people, and they know it.

One of the noble functions of our Third Sex Pagan past was the Divine role of spiritual intermediaries between our Gentile, especially Aryan tribes, and our Gods [Satan and his Demons]. Likewise, we protected our Gentile races and Nations as Warriors and Leaders. Heterosexual people have provided the physical offspring, along with their own special talents, while we have given our peoples Arts, Crafts, Medicine, Science, Literature, Philosophy, Religion [Paganism/Satanism], Spirituality, and Leadership. Since Nature has seen to it that there will always be Third Sex people born to heterosexual parents for each and every generation, we are blessed with our Satanic responsibilities to our peoples.

This is the purpose of the Third Sex Thule Society. Nature's Laws are Satan's Laws, and we uphold these Laws, despite what our deluded Christian opponents who think they know what Nature intended, like to believe. We are rescuing ourselves from Jewish liberalism and freeing ourselves from cultural Marxism, which is secular Christianity. We know that Christianity is a Communist doctrine, regardless of whether it comes in its liberal or conservative forms, and we recognize that ALL Christianity benefits the Jewish people and no one else. We are finished helping the Jews work for our death and destruction.

As Satanists who embrace true National Socialism, which is Satanic Government that is based upon Natural Law, the Third Sex Thule Society completely rejects the notion of belonging to any form of the Marxist "GBLT Community," and we embrace our Gentile races and cultures, instead. Since our sexuality is only an aspect of ourselves, it is not about "GBLT Pride," but Gentile Pride, as being Gentile Satanists is what makes us who we are. The Jewish people have successfully divided Gentiles over sexual orientation, due to their enforcement of Christian and Islamic so-called "morality," as well as flaunting sexuality in an unbalanced way, as to create backlashes against sexual freedom. This must come to an end.

Despite the hypocritical "Focus on the Family" Christians, since the Jewish character of Jesus Christ is all about destroying the family unit [see Matthew 10:34-40], the members of the Third Sex Thule Society strongly encourage the Gentile Pagan family unit, and we see to it that our Gentile peoples stick together and thrive, rather than perpetuating the Marxist "Us" [the Third Sex] versus "Them" [heterosexuals], when it comes to sexual orientation. We, at the Third Sex Thule Society, shatter these Jewish inventions of Christianity, Islam, and Communism. Everyone must do their Satanic duties in working for Satan and his cause, which leads to our freedom, as well as Satan's victory.

The Third Sex Thule Society 666, GLBT Thule Society 666 12 Comments [10/8/2017 12:22:02 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132745

The 'famines' were greatly exaggerated by the papers owned by "America's No. One Fascist" William Randolph Hearst at the behest of Adolf Hitler to the tune of one million marks to demoralize the left in Germany and America.

It's worth noting that the media as a whole thoroughly eviscerated the stories when they were first published, resulting in retractions and, in some countries, the criminalization of possession of his "newspapers". Coming back into public consciousness as 'fact' during the McCarthy era, again, to be refuted before reemerging in '84

For those interested, "Famine, Fraud, and Fascism" is a detailed and very well researched book detailing the indoctrination of a malicious, intentional famine against the Ukranian people, which in several different ways (reused photographs from the Austro-Hungarian war, falsified accounts including a black caricature by a convicted serial fraud who never stepped foot in Ukraine) is false on it's face.

Really, my only beef with Stalin is the recriminalization of gay marriage. Something the west can't say they were better about.

MarbhDamhsa, r/communism101 0 Comments [10/8/2017 12:21:30 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132741

Aren’t the putrid damned muzslime just a horrid MESS. They do not belong in any nation but their own.

They need to be deported by the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands!!!

Muzslime are totally RUINING THE WHOLE EARTH!!!! Muzslime are a disease everywhere they are. They need to be dissed so the West can be at ease.

Don Spilman, Bare Naked Islam 3 Comments [10/8/2017 12:19:08 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132740

Just how long do these stupid police and their bosses think they can keep acting like they are fooling the average bloke.

For years now they always immediately say, “nope not anything to do with muzslime or izslime.”

THEY are the stupid fools…. of course it’s an act by a religious muzslime. They intend to kill non muzslime, that’s their goal in life.

Don Spilman, Bare Naked Islam 2 Comments [10/8/2017 12:19:03 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132738

Stalin did not orchestrate a genocide. Many Nazis died, and many soldiers of the Red Army, but to call this genocide is ludicrous. In addition, there was a famine that has been claimed to have been targeted at Ukraine.

The evidence for this is contested at best. Finally, there is the gulag situation. Gulags (work camps) are of very questionable moral defensibility, but to call them genocide is a stretch. First, they were not targeting a racial group, but a class in society called kulaks.

Kulaks were basically an agricultural landlord class that hoarded and burned grain when the state tried to take it to feed their people, which did not cause the famine mentioned above but made it far worse. Some political prisoners also went to the gulags, which is again questionable, but not genocide.

Second, the number of people that went through the gulags was very variable by year, and at almost all times significantly lower as a percentage of population than other prison systems, such as the modern US's, and the survival rate was fairly high for work camps, although again, variable. The gulags were a penal system, one that is highly suspect, but definitively not a genocide.

adude350, r/communism101 5 Comments [10/8/2017 12:18:54 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132737

The claims that Stalin commited genocide belong to the 1930s and 1980s. Specifically, this myth is a creation of nazi propaganda that was consolidated internationally by Ronald Reagan. The rise of nazism in Germany occurred as a reaction against the Weimar Republic and the failed german revolution, it was a extreme right wing response, and because of that, many of the current reputations and interpretations of the USSR and Stalin are directly linked to this period.

During the collectivization process, many rich russians and ukrainians fled to the United States and Nazi Germany, and they helped building a mass media operation that created hoaxes such as the existence of a genocide through hunger, the totalitarian regime of Stalin, etc., and also during this time, north-american media was closely affiliated with german media, so through people like William Hearst those hoaxes spread outside Germany to the whole West. More names are involved, such as Robert Conquest or Alexander Solzhenitsyn.

During the 1980s these myths became consolidated as a project of Reagan's government in bringing down the Soviet Union. While the hoaxes existed since the 1930s, they were revalidated and used as a political tool by neoliberalism and imperialism

commienoborders, r/communism101 3 Comments [10/8/2017 12:18:51 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132735

Being born gay isn't reality. The Gay lobby lies and says your born gay. The gay lobby began saying they were born that way in the 80s and 90s up until now. They began saying this because the religious right said that being gay was a bad moral lifestyle choice. The Gay lobby looked at this and said that by their logic they are right so we need a new excuse.

They looked for an idea and said what if we can be like blacks, women, disabled people and just say we were born like this. So they invented this idea that some people were just born to be homosexual. The left, of course accepted this idea because they want to constantly be open minded and diverse. I'm not stated that those are bad things, only when these ideals are taken to the extreme is when things tend to be problematic.

Research conducted by the Northshore Research Institute found clear links between male sexual orientation and two specific regions of the human genome. The researchers never found a single gene that was common in gay males or anything that would effect male sexual orientation.

This led the researchers to confirm the notion that sexual orientation is a choice. Genes can contribute to help make a decision in someone's head about being gay or not, but not change your sexual orientation. The main factors in this lifestyle choice is environment and upbringing. The point I make is simple, every credible scientist says there is no evidence in genes that homosexuals are born the way they are.

It is based off of nurture and environmental upbringings. They gay lobby simply used this as an easy answer to avoid the fact they chose directly to be gay. Now today it's imbedded in culture and popular to defend the born this way theory when it's just a lie. People ignore the facts choosing to follow crowds nowadays and no matter how many people they believe or follow, the bottom line is a lie is a lie.

jaredpitts101, r/DebateAltRight 10 Comments [10/8/2017 12:18:43 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132733

[Comment under "Do you want Negroes in our schools?" Mothers' League of Central High School advocating the removal of pro-integration School Board members and the reelection of pro-segregation members. Little Rock, Arkansas, United States. May 1959]

They didn't but the government forced them at gun point. Real tyrannical of them

Burnthekites, Reddit - r/PropagandaPosters 15 Comments [10/8/2017 2:48:11 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 132732

(part of a longer arguement about the second amendment)

"Indeed. What good would any of that do against tanks, bombers, and so forth?"

Straw-man. I affirm military privatisation.
In other words, I believe that the people should be allowed to possess the same weapons as the government possesses.

"who do you envision purchasing enough tanks and fighter jets and such to fight the US government on equal terms?"

Do you understand what a free market even is?

"Nukes?"

If the governmental authorities have them, yes.

newenglandsun, slacktivist 17 Comments [10/8/2017 2:48:07 AM]
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Submitted By: skybison

Quote# 132724

Ravyn Skye:Number 5 sounds like sleep paralysis. It happens to me a LOT. It feels like it's crushing or smothering me, this evil black shadow entity. It's a very common hallucination during sleep paralysis episodes.?


Deinnemann:No, it was dark spirits. They feed on human energy, to get stronger.?

Ravyn Skye: I'm not even sure if you're serious right now... >_>;;;?

Deinnemann:+Ravyn Skye i'm very serious.?

Deinnemann, Youtube 7 Comments [10/7/2017 1:25:39 PM]
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Submitted By: P.E.T.F

Quote# 132719

It's the same constant brain-washing that has made the whole LBGT movement not only acceptable but has set them up as an elite group to be admired be cause of the "struggle" they have gone through. Why do feminist/women support it? Because it takes a lot of courage to go against what is popular.

In the case of Feminists for of theer self-asserting bluster, they are afraid that if they opposed the gay movement there would be a back-lash against them. The last thing the feminist movement wants is another movement to become more powerful than their own.

Jelennuie, Stormfront 16 Comments [10/7/2017 1:24:42 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132718

Obviously none here and there are exceptions, but despite all the drawbacks allowing men to think just because they take hormones and cut their you-know-what off they're women there are so many actual women that fully support them.

Yet allowing this causes so many negative drawbacks: Female sports is ruined as we have seen where trans women are allowed to compete with real women. They like to act as if they can speak on "women's issues". They end up artificially inflating the "women" in different jobs/careers, it just goes on and on.

I realize there are leftist men that support this garbage as well, but undoubtedly this negatively effects real women in a multitude of ways and yet so many support it. I have spoken to some women about it and according to them they fully support it even when I list the negatives, several just calling me a bigot/hateful person etc. Not friends with them but it angers me to no end.

MaryMag, Stormfront 10 Comments [10/7/2017 1:24:19 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132714

What it means to "Get Help"

Help people feel superior

Help people feel like nice people

Help people feel like authority figures

Help pay people's salaries

Get help to benefit everyone but yourself, cuck.

Alia_Harkonnen, /r/incels 11 Comments [10/7/2017 12:02:40 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 132713

The equivalent of "I seen an ugly guy with a gf before"

Winning the mega millions lottery.

I mean some people have won that as well. So normies, should we all quit our jobs and just buy mega million dollar lottery tickets?

imanacctingstudent, /r/incels 11 Comments [10/7/2017 12:02:33 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 132707

The Jews living in their homes in the UK are not illegal squatters like those living on stolen Palestinian lands in OCCUPIED PALESTINE. They need to be “repatriated” to whence they came.That is a normal response to people who steal from others.Nothing to do with them being Jews.

Jeremy Corbyn will take the reigns of Power in the UK and Freedland and all the other Israel first traitors and zionist trouble makers will be put in their place and none too soon. The world will be a far better place when the scourge of Zionism is neutralised and it,s adherents have been sent to the back of the class .You should look impressive sporting a dunces cap.

amigo, MondoWeiss 17 Comments [10/7/2017 11:48:22 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132704

The "European Union" is a people prison in which puppets of the international money nobility are the commisars, government executives and ministers exploit their own people and want to depatriotize them. And the monetary union only makes sure that the European people are incited against one another.
I think for instance about the inflammatory articles from the BILD journal, which claimed that lazy Greeks would fritter away our money for their lottery life! The billions for Greece benefit the banks and the corrupt cable companies in politics and society and the normal employee receives as much money as the African Otto average earner in Congo receives from huminatarian organisations. They earn absolutely nothing!
The monetary union has become a system of interest servant detention, that sucks out and weakens the people.
That's why the goal of each government with obligations to its people should be to dissolve the "European Union", to terminate the monetary union and to return to national currency and central banks.
After this all governments should enact their debts and start again without interest servant detention.
Because the billions that the government has sunk into the "Monetary Union" will never be seen again.
It is however illusory as long as German politicians travel through world history and celebrate their pseudo-religious guilt cult.
See the "Red Heidi" in Namibia that complained about a genocide in Hereos and I insinuate that I know from the JF editorial staff that there has never been a genocide in Hereos.
As long as German media and politicians continue the war propaganda of our World War enemies against us and even complain about the genocide in Hereos, without claims from the victor powers of 1945, that long we will be the douchebags and pay masters of all money chasing political thugs in foreign countries.

Werner Jost, Junge Freiheit 5 Comments [10/7/2017 11:23:16 AM]
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Quote# 132701

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Trump's one-two punch hits birth control, LGBT rights"

Thank God for our president! Please continue to pray for him. God bless him!!

(FOX news story follows)

WASHINGTON – In a one-two punch elating religious conservatives, President Donald Trump's administration is allowing more employers to opt out of no-cost birth control for workers and issuing sweeping religious-freedom directions that could override many anti-discrimination protections for LGBT people and others.

At a time when Trump finds himself embattled on many fronts, the two directives — issued almost simultaneously on Friday — demonstrated the president's eagerness to retain the loyalty of social conservatives who make up a key part of his base. Leaders of that constituency were exultant.

"President Trump is demonstrating his commitment to undoing the anti-faith policies of the previous administration and restoring true religious freedom," said Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council.

Liberal advocacy groups, including those supporting LGBT and reproductive rights, were outraged.

"The Trump administration is saying to employers, 'If you want to discriminate, we have your back,'" said Fatima Goss Graves, president of National Women's Law Center.

Her organization is among several that are planning to challenge the birth-control rollback in court. The American Civil Liberties Union filed such a lawsuit less than three hours after the rules were issued.

"The Trump administration is forcing women to pay for their boss' religious beliefs," said ACLU senior staff attorney Brigitte Amiri. "We're filing this lawsuit because the federal government cannot authorize discrimination against women in the name of religion or otherwise."

Xavier Becerra, the Democratic attorney general of California, said he planned to file a similar lawsuit as soon as feasible. Other Democratic attorneys general said they were mulling the same step.

Both directives had been in the works for months, with activists on both sides of a culture war on edge about the timing and the details.

The religious-liberty directive, issued by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, instructs federal agencies to do as much as possible to accommodate those who claim their religious freedoms are being violated. The guidance effectively lifts a burden from religious objectors to prove that their beliefs about marriage or other topics that affect various actions are sincerely held.

"Except in the narrowest circumstances, no one should be forced to choose between living out his or her faith and complying with the law," Sessions wrote.

In what is likely to be one of the more contested aspects of the document, the Justice Department states that religious organizations can hire workers based on religious beliefs and an employee's willingness "to adhere to a code of conduct." Many conservative Christian schools and faith-based agencies require employees to adhere to moral codes that ban sex outside marriage and same-sex relationships, among other behavior.

The Alliance Defending Freedom, a conservative Christian law firm, called it "a great day for religious freedom." But JoDee Winterhof of the Human Rights Campaign, a national LGBT-rights group, depicted the two directives as "an all-out assault, on women, LGBT people and others" as the administration fulfilled a "wish list" of the religious right.

The new policy on contraception, issued by the Department of Health and Human Services, allows more categories of employers, including publicly traded companies, to opt out of providing no-cost birth control to women by claiming religious or moral objections — another step in rolling back President Barack Obama's health care law that required most companies to cover birth control at no additional cost.

Employers with religious or moral qualms will also be able to cover some birth control methods, and not others. Experts said that could interfere with efforts to promote modern long-acting implantable contraceptives, such as IUDs, which are more expensive.

The top Democrat in the House of Representatives, Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, said the birth-control rollback was despicable.

"This administration's contempt for women reaches a new low with this appalling decision to enable employers and health plans to deny women basic coverage for contraception," she said.

On the Republican side, however, House Speaker Paul Ryan welcomed the decision, calling it "a landmark day for religious liberty."

The new policy took effect on Friday, but its impact won't be known immediately and may not be dramatic.

"I can't imagine that many employers are going to be willing to certify that they have a moral objection to standard birth control methods," said Dan Mendelson, president of the consulting firm Avalere Health.

Nonetheless, he worried that the new rules would set a precedent for undermining basic health benefits required under federal law. The administration has estimated that some 200 employers who have already voiced objections to the Obama-era policy would qualify for the expanded opt-out, and that 120,000 women would be affected.

Since contraception became a covered preventive benefit, the share of female employees paying with their own money for birth control pills has plunged to 3 percent, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.

Many Catholic hospitals now rely on an Obama-era workaround under which the government pays for the cost of birth control coverage. That workaround can continue under the new rules.

Despite that workaround, there have been extensive legal battles waged by religious institutions and other parties challenging the birth-control mandate. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops hailed the new policy as a "return to common sense" that would enhance "peaceful coexistence" between church and state.

Doctors' groups that were instrumental in derailing Republican plans to repeal Obama's health law outright expressed their dismay.

The American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists said the new policy could reverse the recent progress in lowering the nation's rate of unintended pregnancies.

"Instead of fulfilling its mission 'to enhance and protect the health and well-being of all Americans,' HHS leaders under the current administration are focused on turning back the clock on women's health," said the organization's president, Dr. Haywood Brown.

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified.Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 15 Comments [10/7/2017 11:02:53 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 132700

Speak the truth. She is a girl. Going along with a delusion does not cure it but reinforces it. Do not go along with the lies.

Share the truth with everyone, like the Wall Street Journal article by Dr. Paul McHugh.

Discuss WHY she would have this impulse. Is she a tomboy and told that those are signs she’s a boy? Cultivate those interests without the delusion. Does a parent wish they had a boy and are pushing her in this direction both to “have a son” and / or get social activist points?

Is she autistic spectrum? Girls with Aspsbergers are being diagnosed as transgender at several times the rate of anyone else because their mindsets are more toward the mechanical and technical, less social. Not feminine enough in behavior and empathy? Instead of saying tomboy or Aspberger, they say you ARE a boy. And children in that mental frame are susceptible because they don’t know how to argue it and tend to go with the expert unless they ARE the expert in a topic.

Support the normal daughter in this, and back her up when she feels pressured to go along with the delusion. Love on her, let her talk to you. You’ll probably learn a lot of horrifying family dynamics that may be driving this, the same way kids act out when there is a family dispute.

tbw2, Free Republic 9 Comments [10/7/2017 11:02:44 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132699

I feel for him. I’ve seen the loudmouth lib wives. He needs to man up though. I would have thrown her out years ago. Only I can be the loudmouth in the house :-).

One thing that may happen ... the girl is only 13. She might not be in her ‘rebellious’ stage yet. It happens to all teenagers whether we care to admit it or not :-).

If she sees her sisters picking up all sorts of guys, she’s going to know she could too. That might snap her out of it :-). I think there’s a decent chance of that happening ... especially if the mother conditioned her to think this way. Mother is going to regret it.

You should also say something to the kid in private if you can ... act like you’re interested in what she’s doing. You don’t need to torque the mom off ... just get a feel for what she’s really thinking.

It’s certainly true that a lot of this nonsense has crippled society mainly due to people being quiet. However, speaking your mind doesn’t necessarily mean you have to address it point blank and piss off the liberal. Do it passive aggressively by acting 100% opposite the mom would think you would act. Try and get a feel for what the girl is really thinking ... try and relate some of your teenage year experiences to her and give her a feeling that she might miss out on a lot of stuff.

Liberals do the crap they do because they *want* a fight. They *want* the attention. It kills them when they’re starved of that attention -OR- you do something that they’re not expecting ... remember, they’re conditioned ... they have a certain queue of replies to any given violation of liberal dogma ... if you do something they don’t expect, they’ll turn into a useless bag of meat having no intelligible reply to your commentary :-).

edh, Free Republic 8 Comments [10/7/2017 11:02:40 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132694

Our family received shocking news. Our niece- a beautiful 13YO identical twin girl- Natalia, has decided that she wants to be a BOY. However, her family is celebrating the news.

Natalia is now to be called 'Nace' and she dresses as a boy. We have been warned (threatened) we must use the pronouns--him or he. And it's so much worse because she has an identical lovely twin sister, Olivia. Olivia is a very feminine, modestly dressed, normal appearing happy-go lucky, girly-girl. Natalie and Olivia are naturally life-long best friends.

This is being culturally normalized and may strike a family near to you.

The family lives out of town and they are arriving here tomorrow to 'reintroduce their twin daughter as a their son -'Nace' to the extended family. Fortunately, her grandfather- my dear dad- is deceased. (Natalia was named to honor our Dad- Nathaniel.) Our mother, whose now senile with dementia, is still cognizant enough to be upset and is completely bewildered at this news.

We are deeply saddened and worried for the twins. I'm not sure there is anything that an out of town extended family can do to help. We want her to feel loved and not rejected. We will pray to God to change Natalia's heart and for Light to enter this family. Unfortunately, we suspect that her mother has been encouraging and supportive of this oddity. They talk about 'how brave it is for her to come out!' She has told Olivia- 'He's a hero', be proud of your new twin brother,... blah, blah, barf.

My brother has already warned my older siblings to tell me to keep my mouth shut. I intend to be welcoming and show love and compassion for both twins and not to discuss the elephant in the room. It is important that this child does not experience further alienation from her own family. But I can't fake any type of congratulations or praise for her choice.

The research on transgendering is quite disturbing. Natalia will be 25 times more likely to commit suicide if she continues on this path. She is inviting tons of social trouble into her world and her twin sister's life. Especially, because she is very pretty, Natalia does not look masculine. My brother stated that Nace is going for counseling. I suspect it's to advance her transition, not reverse her course. If they begin testosterone hormone treatment, she risks: an inflamed liver, increased red blood cell counts and other negative hormonal effects. Her hormones & blood will need to be monitored for the rest of her life. It's unfathomable that any parent would allow this.

My Sis-in-law is a typical New England liberal loud-mouth witch who has been very inclusive of her lesbian friends in their family functions and as the twins' babysitters. SIL relishes all things freaky, strange, weird, and bizzaro and is proudly very "progressive." My brother and his wife are well educated, sports minded, working parents that started a family in their mid-40's. The girls have been educated in an upscale suburban public school with karate, softball, soccer, & swimming lessons. However, the twins were always dumped into the extended school environment (7AM-6PM.)

About two summers ago, my brother was proud to announce the girls were going to church camp for 'sex education.' But it was not to be VBS (Vacation Bible School); it was a Unitarian Church. I tried to warn him of their reputation, but he hates my conservative opinions and swore me off. I have to wonder what part that indoctrination played in Natalia's choice to reject her beautiful body that God had created.

We knew that both girls, but especially Natalia, had some development delays and is likely in the mild Asperger Spectrum. This social awkwardness may have been what steered her into this gender dysphoria encouraged by her mother and the latest progressive LGBT agenda.

Also, my SIL has always played one girl off of the other, and seemed to favor Olivia, named to honor SIL's deceased father, Oliver. We have noticed that each parent is typically paired off separately with one of the twins and they were not being treated equally or fairly. SIL manipulated and controlled when each girl could speak. SIL is a loud, over-bearing, controlling and heavy handed mother and person. OTH, my brother has no backbone and his domineering wife has always worn the pants.

We are deeply saddened and fearful for both Natalia's & Olivia's future. At Christmas 2016, Natalia was a thin attractive shy girl with lovely eyes and a beautiful smile. I pray that she is not too far gone into this abyss at only 13 years of age.

Please pray for Natalia and her family that God may enter their lives.

If anyone has had any experience with LGBT family or constructive ideas, please post it here.

Beautiful_Gracious_Skies, Free Republic 14 Comments [10/7/2017 9:13:04 AM]
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Beyond the icy bounds of the Southern Circle, lies a vast circular ocean, and beyond that the forbidden continent, Antichtone; any ship or plane will reach the Aether Screen and go around this landmass by accident. Admiral R. Byrd discovered that Antichtone/Atlantis had lakes, forests, mammoths and hills covered with vegetation, far inland - exactly what was seen by the Nazis during their 1938-1939 expedition.

There are vast tunnels under the Earth; some of these lead beyond the Ice Wall. Alexander the Great and his armies made use of these tunnels; so did the Nazis in many of their campaigns. This is the only way to reach Antichtone, and it is why many mammoth fossils are found in vast caverns under ground, whereas modern elephant remains tend to scatter themselves over the open plains of Africa.

I must thanks my esteemed colleague, November 17, for enlightening me as to the tunnel complexes used by Alexander; I have synthesised this research with the findings of the venerable Levee, in providing my synoptical answer to your questions.

I am able to peer above the lofty peaks of the Ice Wall, because I am standing on the shoulders of giants.

James, The Flat Earth Society 12 Comments [10/7/2017 9:12:41 AM]
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Almost everybody acts as i'm crazy when they hear i say "the earth is not a spinnig ball. Not spinning and not a ball". It is harder to crack prejudice than an atom. So it is hard to convince them. But when i try to convice somebody, after i talked usually they change their mind as confuse. Because i don't see anybody can defence one of main argument about diffusion.

More altitude gravity decreases but suddenly occurs diffusion is a really strong power; so how atmospher resist to difuses to the space. This question has no answer. I recommend to ask this question first for all discussings.

Intikam, The Flat Earth Society 15 Comments [10/7/2017 9:12:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie