Quote# 133785

stalin was the russian leader who brought the ussr closer to socialism then any russian leader before him, so obviously he will get the most flak from the west.

stalin did not kill millions, he wasn't some crazy dictator, and he wasn't a racist. he was a good person, just keep learning, and dont close yourself up.

sovietmushroom, r/communism101 7 Comments [11/3/2017 1:10:07 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133784

Why escalate the language here. When all precautions are taken not to hurt anyone this is just classical sabotage. Still too dangerous to execute, IMO, because fires are uncontrollable, but hardly terrorism. There was a case from a dutch man in 2002 who shot a conservative politician partly over animal issues, but also on general cultural issues beyond that. On the other hand hunters have killed several protesters during mass sabotage actions.

Like any social movement I don’t think vegans should let themselves be divided by the question of violence. Nobody likes it, we shouldn’t fetishize it as a movement, but situationally it probably can turn out useful and we should stand in solidarity those who endorse or use it reasonably.

goiken, r/DebateAVegan 7 Comments [11/3/2017 1:09:46 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133783

I believe the ends justify the means. Now you may not agree with that, but we probably can agree that it is at least a reasonable thing to believe. Also vegans are not pacifists. Some may be, but many are not.

What (ethical) vegans have in common is the desire to minimize harm to sentient beings. And again I think it is reasonable to believe that the harm caused to some few people by burning down their farm or lab is smaller than the harm that would have been caused to the many animals in those faculties.

jan_path, r/ARActivism 3 Comments [11/3/2017 1:09:15 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133781

Very very few vegans support bombs and arson because as you pointed out it risks harming people. Many do support non violent actions such as rescuing animals or property damage. It's very much a case of one man's freedom fighter another man's terrorist.

Plenty of revolutions have involved violence, apartheid and anti slavery for example, so I don't think the simple fact that a campaign uses violence makes it terrorism. Ultimately the ALF are trying to stop violence being inflicted on innocent and defenceless animals for no reason.

Lapster69, r/AskVegans 6 Comments [11/3/2017 1:06:28 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133780

Jihad denial is totally based on the FACT that ALL freaking muzslime are commanded to it. IF WE CAN EVER come to the place where we do NOT use the ultra stupid word “TERRORISTS” and simply call ALL of the freaks exactly what they are, MUZSLIME, then we just might have a chance to defeat the damned devils. If we never can speak this TRUTH then just bend over and kiss IT by by!!!

Don Spilman, Bare Naked Islam 4 Comments [11/3/2017 1:05:59 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133777

Rule number one: Don’t bare your soul on social media. She lost the job because she is a professing Christian who believes in Christian values.

She lost the job because she is not the modern “Who am I to judge?’ Christian. Christians are now social outcaste. A strange turn of events in a nation founded by Christians which at the time of the founding nearly all of the original 13 states had state religions.

Pontiac, Free Republic 7 Comments [11/3/2017 12:59:50 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133776

ISIS needs to destroy the pyramids.

Yamamanama, SSTDT comments 8 Comments [11/3/2017 10:22:49 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 133775

Jesus wan't a jew. He called jews satanists and hated them. nice try.


Gayestjew, Reddit - r/conspiracy 7 Comments [11/3/2017 10:22:42 AM]
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Quote# 133774

trying to explain why only lesbians are allowed to use the terms butch/femme for themselves and non-lesbians cant is exhausting

gaykravitz, Tumblr 7 Comments [11/3/2017 8:36:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 133773

Great Leader has delivered a message for all of us, there have been recent record low temperatures and thus global warming is impossible. Donald Trump can not only debunk what a team of "scientists" have been claiming for years in an instant, but also do it in just one sentence. And people say I'm ridiculous for saying we're all lowly compared to him. The man can solve problems scientists couldn't solve for years in an instant and explain them in most simple ways possible, meaning that he is literally the 21st century Albert Einstein.

Feel free to praise him for his greatness.

I think we should take this as a valuable lesson and stop trying to think for ourselves. Donald Trump is far superior to us and thus will always make a smarter decision on every problem. Why is it that everyone keeps trying to come up with something better than the highest man in the world with such confidence? That should be seen as treason because the whole point of leaders is to do the thinking for everyone else.

You want to know what's happening in the world? Follow Great Leader's Twitter. He will update you with every event in the world in just a few words. Everyone else drags out the simple truth to make themselves sound smart, but these are the same dumb people who thought global warming was real. Real intelligence isn't dragging things out, it's simplifying them. Remember that before you make any more claims against Great Leader that should be seen as treason.

Peace! Make America great again!

RetroSpriteResources, https://retrospriteresources.deviantart.com/art/Stop-complaining-about-global-warming-686867622 18 Comments [11/3/2017 7:42:28 AM]
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Quote# 133770

[In reply to an Agnostic who had a Near-Death Experience and didnt convert]

If people are dreaming during an NDE: then WHY are dreaming the SAME identical dreams??? The hovering over their own body-the light-being surrounded by others-she did say NDE-and a coma would qualify for that!! You said you used to be an aethist-do you believe in a higher power-Amy??

Camille Smith, Facebook 5 Comments [11/3/2017 7:39:37 AM]
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Quote# 133766

If you were bullied as a male, you ARE or at least were ugly. Period. I'm tired of people thinking that bullying is caused by shyness, social anxiety, coming from poor family or any other fucking stupid cope shit.

-Ugly shy male in class: lol creep weirdo. Let's steal his bag.
-Handsome shy male in class: Oh why doesn't he open more? Let's get to know him and introduce him to our group!

-Ugly poor male in a high-ish class environment school: lol you must eat from dumpsters or something. I can't let people see me with this loser.
-Handsome poor male in a high-ish class environment school: Oh he must be a genius or a hard worker if he is here and comes from a difficult poor past. I can always help him a bit when hes low on money if he wants snacks! Im sure I could get him a part time job at my dads company so he has some cash.

-Ugly rich male in a low class environment school: That pretentious shit fed with golden spoon, lets beat him and steal his money. Money won't get ya girls loser.
-Handsome rich male in low class environment school: Oh why is he here? looks like a prince! Hes so humble, he is rich as fuck and still is down to earth studying here. He must be some sort of young genius who makes tons of money trough some online thing right?

-Ugly foreigner student: can you even speak our language? lol go back to your country.
-Handsome foreigner student: So exotic! I always wanted to hook up with a foreigner. Tell us about your country, must be so interesting!

Every possible ideological/personality/socioeconomic clash is a COPE. Every clash will be mitigated and haloed by good looks. The only reason you are bullied is because you are UGLY period. LOOKS DETERMINE YOUR ENTIRE LIFE AND WORTH SPECIALLY AS A MALE. For girls bullying sometimes can come from social power, or things like some girl being bullied because of jealousy about something. But for males is always ALWAYS because of looks.

Zyros_, r/incels 9 Comments [11/3/2017 7:37:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133765

One of my fave thought experiments to ask people of all colors, sexes, and religion / no religion - those that think we are wrong to be on the sidewalk protesting abortion - is this:
"If they were taking black people in there (the abortion mill building) against their will and whipping the Hell out of them, and it was perfectly legal to do so, would you stand out here and protest that with us?"
Until recently, after asking that question over a couple of years to a couple of dozen people - Christians, agnostics, black and white, male and female, young and old - I finally got a "yes." It was a black couple in their early 40's, and it took them awhile to affirm that they would indeed protest this modern-day equivalent of slavery atrocities. They didn't immediately say "yes." But, they did eventually, as I talked to them about listening to Dr. King. All the others said "no." Including every single black person I met - most of whom claimed to be "christian," but not all.
Let that sink in, DJ. THAT is what we are dealing with. Shame on us all!

WorldGoneCrazy-NotMurderedYet, Live Action News 10 Comments [11/3/2017 7:36:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 133764

Human rights are a bourgeois concept. They were thought up during the Enlightenment when a bunch of upper-middle class/upper class philosophers decided that that they thought was universal and right, just like the laws in the feudal era and the slave empire era.

There are many things for leftists to criticize Stalin for, but human rights violations should not be one, as that would be like criticizing Mao's China for having a one party state as "anti-democratic".

CaptainRyRy, r/communism101 6 Comments [11/3/2017 7:34:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133763

Here is a point I try to make with my liberal friends to begin to pry their heads loose from the trashcan of ideology upon which they consistently dine. Think about modern US politics. Even the most hardcore liberals would agree that there are legitimate things to criticize Obama for, however you will never see the legitimate criticism on Fox News.

All of Fox News reporting on Obama bordered on ridiculous. Think about those absurdities and the lies about the Clintons. No legitimate criticism to be found and he was very much the right wing's ally.

Now imagine Stalin and Mao. They led the two most successful socialist states in history. Stalin is the scourge of the bourgeois. They hate him worse than they hate Hitler. Michael Parenti is great on this. Leaders who served the Proletarians, from Julius Caesar through Stalin are always portrayed as Tyrants, monsters, murderers, demagogues.

Also, whenever a liberal uses the word Freedom and Democracy they mean Capital Freedom to move where it will and Capital Democracy, the right for Capital to make the decisions. I am still studying and I am not as well versed as other comrades so I welcome criticism or expansion on anything I have said. thanks.

CitizenDK, r/communism101 8 Comments [11/3/2017 7:34:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133762

I'm sorry but to other comrades, can we not be satisfied with "it's all a lie" or "Stalin did nothin' wrong." OP is obviously a new guy. If you just say Stalin did nothing wrong, OP may or may not believe it, or if they do believe it, will have insufficient knowledge about the subject matter. On the other hand, it's true that Stalin didn't do many things wrong. He had mistakes, sure, but not many, and usually they were caused by the external conditions i.e. Stalin didn't really have a choice.

Let's talk about dekulakization and why it's not an atrocity. The kulaks were landlords who refused to give their land. Now, Stalin needed to collectivize land to bring up production due to the fact that a famine was beginning to occur. The Kulaks intentionally sabotaged production by burning wheat and whatnot, decreasing, for example, the amount of livestock during the first five year plan. So is it surprising that Stalin would want to get rid of them? Next, bourgeois media likes to spit on the gulags, shame them to death, when even American and most of Europe had forms of labor camps. The Americans kept labor camps in the Philippines and Cuba for example.

But when, under Gorbachev, the archives of the Central Committee of the CPSU were opened up to researchers, it was found that the number of political prisoners in 1939 had been 454,000, not the millions claimed by Conquest. If we add those in prison for non-political offenses, we get a figure of 2.5 million, that is, 2.4% of the adult population. In contrast, there were in the United States in 1996, according to official figures, 5.5 million people in prison, or 2.8% of the adult population.

The final thing is that Stalin did strive for democracy in the Soviet Union. He called for a secret ballot on an equal basis, saying that a peasants' vote would count as much as a workers' vote. It was true that on the ballot, there was only one party - the CPSU. But it isn't true that it was the only thing there. Evidently, other non-party organizations like citizens' groups and workplace organizations had their candidates on the ballot as well.

theredcebuano, r/communism101 6 Comments [11/3/2017 7:33:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133760

There is a heavy perverse spirit out here. The so called white man is a natural born faggot allowing all these gays to roam around freely. Ain't gonna be no gays in our kingdom. They gonna get put to death on sight


Asar'el Ben Israel, Facebook 4 Comments [11/3/2017 7:31:18 AM]
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Quote# 133758

[OP of "ANSWER"]



On the poster: "Fascism is the solution to the problems Liberalism creates"

Valkynaz, Reddit - r/FULLFASCISM 8 Comments [11/3/2017 7:22:27 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 133757

Gitmo is probably way too small to hold them all. Send the very worst of the lot there, and forcibly repatriate ALL the rest to their countries of origin.

It's time that western nations woke up to the fact that Islam is plan for global conquest posing as a religion.

Windflier, Free Republic 1 Comments [11/3/2017 7:21:56 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133756

EVERY MUSLIM IS COMMANDED TO KILL INFIDELS. Some do, some don't but they are all taught in their HOLY KORAN to kill those who are not Muslim.

We cannot have peace until all of these barbarians are removed from the west. Parents are "passive?" Doesn't matter, they will raise some who will follow the KORAN.

President Trump gets it but can't say it until more innocent people are killed. ALL MUSLIMS must be removed from the west AND Islam must be declared an illegal, terrorist cult. It is NOT a religion, it is a war plan.

politicianslie, Free Republic 1 Comments [11/3/2017 7:21:37 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133755

HUGE cop-out!! Abortion is MURDER!! God's ALREADY judged it! Don't tell me he doesn't KNOW that!!!

Maryann McDowell, Facebook 7 Comments [11/3/2017 7:20:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133747

I wish this discussion would occur on a national level, possibly initiated by a Tweet from Trump or something along those lines. The idiocy of liberalism has been treated like the crazy aunt locked away in the attic, a topic no one wants to talk about openly or publicly.

What causes liberalism? Probably due a part of the human mind that affects a sense of logic and honesty. Liberals tend to be deficient in those two areas. They're that way for reasons that may be similar to why some people have good retention or a poor one.

Some liberals may also want to be on the left because they have a guilt conscience about themselves. They may think their liberalism offsets their greed, intolerance, bigotries, jealousies, stupidity. In general, never trust the judgment, honesty or integrity of a typical liberal.

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 5 Comments [11/3/2017 7:08:52 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133746

Because they are irrational and they are flat out EVIL. In the Bible, when it refers to end times, and "The Wicked", you could substitute the word "Liberals".

Liberalism/Socialism/Communism is a disease. And Socialism is merely Communism before the guns are taken.

If allowed to, Socialism always progresses to Communism. Although Socialists (and especially Communists) never ADMIT they are Communists, unless it reaches a point like in the former Soviet Union, when it was in your best interest to refer to yourself a Communist, and stay out of a Gulag.

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 4 Comments [11/3/2017 7:07:52 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133742

I used to have many illnesses. I was very sick and relied on medicine to keep going. When I began practicing Falun Dafa (also known as Falun Gong) in 1997, my health gradually improved. I am now completely illness-free.

Practicing Falun Gong not only improved my body and mind, but my family has also benefited. I always feel that Master Li, the founder of Falun Dafa, is looking after me and my family. In 2004, my youngest son had dug a cesspit two meters deep for holding manure. One day, my four-year-old granddaughter accidentally fell into the cesspit. She was submerged up to her neck, yet she was rescued and suffered no injury.

Another time, my neighbor had leaned a large, heavy metal door against a wall. My granddaughter was playing under it, but it fell, trapping her underneath. She managed to crawl out from under the door, and she wasn't hurt at all. Once, my husband noticed blood in his urine and went to the hospital. The doctor suggested that he go to a larger hospital for a checkup. I then asked Master to help him and put a Dafa amulet around his neck.

After the check-up, the ultrasound showed that everything was normal. I told my husband that my Teacher had looked after him. A few days later, my husband recovered completely.

When one of my daughters-in-law was about to give birth, her doctor advised her to have a caesarian. I told her to believe and recite, “Falun Dafa is good! Truthfulness-Compassion-Tolerance is good!” She believed me and constantly recited these words. The baby was born naturally, with my daughter-in-law in labor for less than two hours. When my grandson was only six years old, the family split apart, as my daughter-in-law had started taking drugs. My grandson missed his mom very much. I told him to sincerely recite, “Falun Dafa is good!” and also to ask for Master's help.

He followed my suggestion, and two days later my daughter-in-law called my son and told him that she missed their son and wanted to come back home. When my daughter-in-law came back, she stopped taking drugs for awhile. But her addiction soon got the better of her again. I asked her to listen to Master's lectures. She did, and finally gave up the addiction in seven days. The family was happy once again.

Unknown author, Minghui 3 Comments [11/3/2017 7:07:06 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133736

@AmesCG:
Hey, on the contrary. If you recognize that you have a problem, restrain yourself from acting on it, and seek treatment, I have no problem with you.


Well that's better at least. You should not have a problem with most pedophiles than, though you might still have a problem with me.
I do not view pedophilia as a problem (I believe it is a sexual orientation) and I do not think I am a monster who needs treatment or else will eventually offend. I do not think I must avoid children or else my "monstrous" urges will overcome me. I do actively seek out social contact with certain children.
But I do restrain myself from sex or sexual contact with children and from watching CP. So I think I have the most important one mostly down. Though morally I do not think sex or sexual contact with a child would be wrong if the child were willing and enjoyed it (as well as a bit more of a list that would be kinda long so I won't put it all down

@AmesCG:
Here I disagree with you very strongly. Sexual orientation is a preference for consensual sexual activity and children cannot consent to sex. "Child abuser" is no more a sexual orientation than "rapist" is.I don't think you're a monster, but I do think you should seek treatment and be careful with your interactions. Have a listen to this episode of This American Life about a group that tries to help people in your position. I think it might help you. Please consider it.
Not great. As I said, please don't come to conclusions about what might or might not harm people on your own. Please talk with someone about it. I understand that might be difficult but it's better for you and for those around you. I have to very strongly underline this point. You're wrestling with some serious things, and therapy or talking with someone you trust might help you, and prevent you from getting into serious trouble, while also protecting those around you. Really, there's no downside aside from serious discomfort, but that pales into comparison with the stakes here.


There is the crux of the issue. I believe children can consent to sex.
I believe this because it is undeniably true. Children can and do consent to sex and sex play with other children. In fact, most child psychologist view sex play as something that is beneficial to children and while the child should be taught that sex is private and should not be forced upon them or anyone else, they also think children should be permitted to engage in safe and age appropriate sex play.
So the issue it is not "children cannot consent to sex", but "children cannot consent to sex (or sexual contact) with someone who is more than x years older than them". I believe that a sexual relationship with between a child and an adult is not by definition harmful. Though I also believe the adult should take extra steps to insure safety and that the child is actually willing and not just participating because the adult wants them to.


pfta2a, reddit 4 Comments [11/3/2017 7:04:57 AM]
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