Quote# 135739

Lady Checkmate's headline: "CRAZY COLLEGE COURSES AND THE RELIGION OF SEX"

https://townhall.com/columnists/frankturek/2017/12/20/crazy-college-courses-and-the-religion-of-sex-n2424553

Lady Checkmate:








Is there any wonder that God's word says the wisdom of the world is as foolishness to God??

1 Corinthians 3:19 (NKJV)
19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their own craftiness”

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 15 Comments [1/5/2018 2:01:17 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 135731

And, while we're at it, why don't we stop teaching women that the worst thing that could ever happen to them, worse than death itself, is to be raped?

I mean, I've been there, and granted, it ain't fun. But it's also not the end of the world. There's less physical damage and risk of death with a garden variety rape than to a gunshot wound. The only reason there's more psychological trauma to rape than to mugging is because we teach girls they're "ruined" if they're raped. We work them into a state of hysteria because they've been irreparably violated and tell them they're going to be fucked up for years because of this. It's total patriarchal women-as-property antiquated bullshit. It's root is the exact same female oppression mentality which leads fathers to kill their daughters after rape because they've disgraced the family.

Whynot, The straight dope 8 Comments [1/5/2018 1:58:26 AM]
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Quote# 135730



President Trump accomplished a lot during his first year. He almost immediately ended the Trans Pacific Partnership, which was a bad deal for American workers, because their jobs were being sent overseas. He refused to go along with the Paris ‘climate change’ accord, which punished America in particular. Climate change is science purchased by globalists, who want to use fear to gain further control of our economy. Trump broke their spell. He’s for America first.

Under Trump, we now have a conservative justice added to the Supreme Court, with more appointees to come. Unemployment has been lowered along with illegal immigration—unvetted or otherwise. Trump is the only president who has had the nerve to actually transfer the US Embassy to Jerusalem.

Taxes have been lowered and the Obamacare mandate has been repealed. In fact, many of Obama’s so-called ‘accomplishments’ have been negated, which is no doubt very irksome to the former president and chief narcissist.

Previous presidents preferred to kick the can down the road when it came to North Korea, but Trump has signaled that he’s had enough. The little round tyrant in North Korea thought he can threaten us with nuclear annihilation and launch missiles over Japan without consequence. After all, previous presidents were always played for saps. They gave the hermit nation concessions every time the dear leaders rattled their sabers. Bill Clinton, with the help of Jimmy Carter, gave the Stalinist country nuclear reactors and billions of dollars in aid. The dictator hugging Carter received the Nobel Peace Prize for his effort, while the North Koreans went ahead with their nuclear weapons program without skipping a beat.

Regulations have been pared back and business are bringing jobs back to America. Work has been done to thwart Islamic terrorists. Obama’s Muslim prayer rugs have been removed.

Naturally, to those possessed with ‘Trump Derangement Syndrome,’ all of his accomplishments are the acme of evil. This is to be expected. The left’s precious socialism and political correctness are finally getting the pushback they’ve long deserved, thanks to President Trump.

There remains much work to be done. Our infrastructure needs rebuilding. The wall needs to be built. The Deep State Swamp needs a lot more draining. Hillary still needs to be locked up. President Trump remains the best man for the job.

Ben Garrison, Grrr Graphics 13 Comments [1/5/2018 1:57:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 135723

What about the "ORIGINALS"?

Your King James Bible is attacked by preachers, some intentional and some simply out of ignorance, by "correcting" it with "THE ORIGINALS". There is one itsy-bitsy problem. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "THE ORIGINALS"! We don't have the "originals" Moses, or Paul, or David wrote. There are no set of "ORIGINALS" on the face of this earth! The ghost of "THE ORIGINALS" is a LIE! See John 8:44!

Preachers, by the thousands, will stand weekly in the pulpit and "correct" your King James Bible by saying, "This is an unfortunate translation" or "a better reading would be" or "this word in the 'Greek' can also be translated. . ." Friend, where is the Lord God? The One that "spoke" the worlds into existence - can He not preserve His word as He promised in Psalm 12:7 and Matthew 24:35? Did God Almighty NOT know what He was "inspiring"? Does the Lord need these "Bible correctors" to "help" Him "straighten-out" His word?

As God promised, He has preserved His word for the English people in the King James Bible. Proverbs 16:10 says, "A divine sentence is in the lips of the KING. . ." Ecclesiastes 8:4 says, "Where the word of a KING is, there is power . . ." King James. "James" is not an English word but a Hebrew word. Did you know the Hebrew word for James is Jacob! You'll never guess what Psalms 147:19 says, "He showeth His WORD unto JACOB . . ."

David J. Stewart, Soulwinning.info 13 Comments [1/5/2018 1:54:05 AM]
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Quote# 135717

Given that most pot smokers are probably Democrats or Libertarians, I don't have a problem with Sessions throwing them in jail and depriving them of voting rights.

Plenty of reasons to hate Sessions, but his physical removal of left-wing voting demographics isn't one of them.

Matt Forney, Gab 13 Comments [1/5/2018 1:51:36 AM]
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Quote# 135716

(In response to a Trump tweet boasting about "big cuts in unnecessary regulations")

@Ed Krassenstein:
Those regulations are made to protect this planet for our Children, and to protect Americans from big corporations.


Regulations are prohibiting adequate exploration of oil and gas reserves under the ground where America's worthless children walk. No one cares about "the children". It's not a Disney movie we live in! #MAGA


Billy Swagger, Twitter 7 Comments [1/5/2018 1:51:21 AM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

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Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 25 Comments [1/4/2018 5:14:49 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 135737

This post is partly a FYI follow-up to two previous threads (see below), and also looking for advice or opinions on the situation.

Very brief summary version: My boyfriend "Greg" has 3 children with his ex-wife "Susan." Susan is remarried to a man I'll call "Stepfather." Stepfather pleaded no contest to child molestation charges involving an unrelated 13-year-old girl, and will be sentenced in a month. This is a felony and requires lifelong sex offender registration. What should Greg do





Where do the kids want to be? I'm not saying it should be entirely up to them, but if this is an isolated incident, is it worth uprooting them across state lines, losing all their friends and schools and social networks, not to mention a stay at home mother, to come live with a dad who works full time? They've already indicated that they love their stepfather and want him to live with them once.




WhyNot, The straight dope 10 Comments [1/4/2018 5:14:19 PM]
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Quote# 135735

Mark Bradshaw: The author stated: "For instance, does it make any sense for a Christian to pluck Old Testament verses from their original historical and cultural context in order to clobber others, given that we are not under the Law but under Grace? It seems it would be a con to the very faith we proclaim!" ------- While we ARE under God's grace (through the sacrifice Jesus made on the cross), He (God) STILL CONDEMNS sinful behavior and we are to STILL abide by his law. Part of that law is that certain behaviors are STILL considered sin. Among them is the behavior of homosexuality (and all sexual behavior outside of man-woman marriage. Jesus said that we are to sin no more. If all sin is forgiven, then to what sin was He referring? Moral law established in the Old Testament is STILL valid and in effect. Moral law did not simply disappear because Jesus died for our sins. We are forgiven for our sins when we accept the gift of forgiveness from Jesus and develop a relationship with Him. The road to God and eternal fellowship with Him is through Jesus and Jesus alone. We are to rebuke and reject ALL sin both in ourselves and others. One must first recognize sinful behavior before one can truly reject it. And, only through Jesus can we truly reject sin.
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glenbo: >>"Moral law established in the Old Testament is STILL valid and in effect."<< Therefore, we can own, buy, sell and beat slaves to death. Women must marry their rapists. We are to murder anyone who dares to work on the Sabbath. And we are to murder all homosexuals. This is GOD'S Morality. And as Christians, you are bound to uphold it.

Mark Bradshaw: Uh, NO. You clearly do NOT understand God's law. Slavery was NOT part of God's moral law, therefore your assertion is fallacious. Same with women being require to marry their rapists - that is part of ceremonial law. Again, same with the Sabbath - part of ceremonial law and not in effect. "And we are to murder all homosexuals." ----- AGAIN, FALSE. this part of God's law was forgiven through Jesus Christ.


Mark Bradshaw, Patheos 13 Comments [1/4/2018 5:13:43 PM]
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Quote# 135734

I've been bouncing this around in my head for a while, but I'm not really a debater (at least online) so I've somewhat avoided posting this. I get this feeling that we're doing more harm than good by calling for the death of molesters, assuming kids are now traumatized and whatnot. Mostly I'm wondering about the latter.

I mean, is there any real reason to be traumatized? When you really get down to it, what exactly did the molester do? Took advantage of the kid, breached the trust barrier, now that's bad, even worse when it's a loved one, but is it really so much worse than, say, cheating on a spouse or walking out on your family when things get bad? Not if you accept (as people commonly seem to on this bored) that sex isn't particularly sacred and we treat it with too many hush's whispers and dodges.

The kid didn't know what they were doing, as far as Jenny's concerned all she did was make Uncle Ned feel good until he told her to stop, I'm not saying lie to them and say what Uncle Ned told her to do wasn't bad, but when we overreact, coddle them, and tell them how it's SO bad, and how everyone is SO sorry and then later in life seeing all these highly publicized trials and calls for death on molesters... well, it's not a surprise they break down crying and BSOD as far as relationships go, because after seeing all that if they weren't quite convinced they were a victim they're DAMN sure now and will begin to think like a victim. I think we aggravate the issue too much, if we didn't treat child sex crimes as such a be all end all issue I think the children could grow up a lot happier because they'd know they had trust broken and be hurt there, but wouldn't be told they're SUCH a victim all the time and probably wouldn't have issues near as bad as they do when they're convinced they had one of the Ultimate Crimes™ perpetrated against them. Not to mention these paralyzing issues don't really seem to manifest until well after the incident, i.e. once they understand what happened (which is information entirely gleaned from people telling them what happened, like that they were victimized).

Now obviously this would require a major reworking of social mores, so this is more of a thought experiment, but do you think we needlessly aggravate paedophilia (and possibly ephebophilia) issues to the point where it hurts the children more than it deters the offenders (In other words, helps more than it hurts)?

Jragon, The straight dope 5 Comments [1/4/2018 5:13:25 PM]
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Quote# 135733


Is our kneejerk reaction to paedophilia more harmful than helpful?


I've always wondered the same thing. It's pretty similar to my line on rape recovery, actually. I don't see why it should be much different for children. Children ARE more resilient than adults when it comes to actual trauma, like war and abuse. The everyday stuff like breakups, perhaps not so much, but kids can grow up in a war zone and not suffer the rates of PTSD their elders do.

One of the thing I hear a lot from grown survivors of sexual abuse as children is a literally whispered, "I know this is awful to say, but sometimes it kinda felt good." The shame and humiliation dripping off them is palpable. That shame over a perfectly normal bodily reaction is, I think, directly attributable to the reactions of their family members and society as a whole, not to the abuse itself. The appalled reactions they get, the lessons about how much they've been hurt, are in direct contrast with the love, however inappropriate, they may feel for their abusers and the pleasurable sexual sensations they might have felt. What can be concluded except that they are as dirty, bad, perverted and evil as their abusers?

Whynot, The straight dope 7 Comments [1/4/2018 5:12:52 PM]
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Quote# 135726

A Guide To Weimerica

Bryce Lockwood is a straight white male who works at a university in a blue state and thus cannot use his real name. He writes, he lifts, he has skin in the game, and he lives at Ground Zero for Weimerica. He possess an ever-present sense of humor that would have seen him quip, “Merry Christmas, ya filthy animal!” had he been the SEAL that capped Bin Laden. He also has a masochistic streak that has expressed itself by climbing Mt. Tammany in the rain and reading the citation sections of various history books. He recently had to buy a new wardrobe as his waist shrunk from his workout and he just passed day 60 of the NF challenge. Friendly to stray dogs, hostile to stray thots.

“Weimerica,” an amalgam of Germany’s pre-Nazi era Weimar Republic, is a term you’ve probably heard in the past year if you’ve been active in the ongoing political maelstrom that is social media. Some alternatively call it “Clown World.” I prefer “Weimerica” as it more specific to what the United States has become recently and hints at a cataclysm yet to be.

This “guide” to Weimerica was written on the fly in-between back-to-back New England snowstorms, originally for an audience of one person. The genesis of this guide was the impending first-time visit to the US of a friend of mine from Lebanon. I wrote it not to show how bad things are, but instead to show how ugly things are. Not to frighten, but to inform on the many unpleasant realities that are all too quickly (and conveniently) forgotten about on a day-to-day basis. How indifference is the order of day despite the ever-tightening noose around the necks of most people.

So what is Weimerica, you ask? Read on and find out.

What is Weimerica?

Weimerica is….

…homicides being up 20% from 2014 (equivalent in raw numbers to more than the September 11th attacks).

…the 17,250 confirmed homicides of 2016 being more than any other year since 1997 (when there were 18,208).

…66,324 drug overdose deaths in a 12-month period (the Vietnam War saw 47,434 hostile deaths over 15+ years).

…44,193 suicides in 2015, with suicides being at 30-year highs in 2016, and suicide being one of the top ten causes of death in Weimerica.

…23,000,000,000 views on Pornhub in 2016 (729 per second every single day non-stop for the whole year) with there being only 7,466,964,000 people on Earth.

…70% of Weimerica being on prescription medication with 20% being on more than five medications at once (and life expectancy still dropping).

…real income showing little to no gains for decades on end.

…being worse off financially than your parents.

…a decrease in the average household income in New Jersey from 2005 to 2015.

…everything being fleetingly temporary, you won’t have that long lasting job, house, car, marriage, etc., like your parents and grandparents did.

…nearly half of all pregnancies being unintended.

…Weimerica is a colossal, dystopian shopping mall filled with 325 million atomized, rootless individuals with no common culture, cause, language, religion or background, united only by their shared consumerism (“Did you see the Giants game last night?” “Oh my Gawd, Stranger Thingssss!”).

The Motto for Weimerica: “NO LIVES MATTER”

A seven-time convicted felon and five-time deportee fatally shoots an innocent passerby in the back with a stolen 40-caliber Glock handgun on a public pier? Acquitted.

A crying father begging for his life shot to death crawling on his hands and knees towards a SWAT team aiming AR-15s and screaming at him? Acquitted.

A bride-to-be gunned down in front of her house in her pajamas when a police officer sitting in his squad car suddenly draws and fires pointblank into her face? No charges.

22,000 attend a country music festival surrounded by high walls and patrolled by security guards and police officers in the most heavily surveilled city in the Western hemisphere? Gunned down by the score with total impunity in the biggest mass shooting of all time.

926,190 abortions in 2014, with an estimated 98.3% being elective (meaning unrelated to rape/incest and medical complications).
Everything Is Fake

Zillow.com and other real estate websites photoshop clouds, grass, and trees around properties and present them in a way that makes them appear much larger and more modern than they actually are.

These two pictures are of the same person:
[pictures omited]

Wall Street rating agencies graded $400 billion worth of subprime mortgage bonds without knowing what was in them, giving many of them the highest “AAA” rating (effectively making them rating agencies in name only).

The 5-star Mandalay Bay hotel in Las Vegas employed an unregistered, unlicensed illegal immigrant as a security guard.

Love To Hate

Everything being either “awesome,” “insanely good,” or “the best ______ ever,” or “shit,” “shitty,” or “the worst _______ ever,” with little to no middle ground and/or reasoned opinions. For example, the discrepancy in reviews for The Last Jedi and nearly every one of the 100+ reviews I read for the Ford Fusion being either “BEST CAR EVER” or “Should be recalled, WORST CAR EVER.”

Every piece of media being heavily and ridiculously scrutinized down to the last detail for any inane reason to hate it. For instance, one of the top comments on a YouTube video for “Shout” by the Isley Brothers accused the video’s author of not including enough black people dancing in his/her photo montage and further asserting that this lack of inclusion was deliberate.

Hating something because it is successful/popular just to go against the grain. For instance, actual “professional” reviews of Dunkirk being “Yeah, yeah, it was great, but why weren’t women the main characters?” and “Yeah, it’s good, but Christopher Nolan and his Nolaniods….”

The hate-watching of TV shows (Keeping up with the Kardashians, Jersey Shore, etc.) propelling them to ultimate success.

Insane Anti-Social Atrocities Are The New Norm

4 out of the 5 worst mass shootings in Weimerican history took place in the past five years.

The worst mass shooting in US history (600+ gunned down) disappears from the news and thus collective consciousness in the space of a week.

The Sutherland Springs massacre (which featured babies being executed at pointblank range by rifle fire) disappears from the headlines within a day or two. This shooting would have ranked as the worst in Weimerican history as recently as 2007.

The mass shooting body count record for Weimerica was broken in 2017 a mere 15 months after the now-second worst mass shooting in Weimerican history occurred.

The firearms technology used in recent mass shootings has been around for decades, and gun laws as a whole have never been stricter and mental health resources have never been more available (remember 70% of the population is on prescription medication), so why is this happening now?

War Is The Default State

After 16+ years in Afghanistan and 14+ years in Iraq (and 6,935 total US deaths), war is the default state of Weimerica and no longer afforded special or notable status (in contrast, the major combat phase of the generation-defining Vietnam War was seven years).

0.4% of the population is active-duty military, meaning ~95% of the population most likely is not emotionally invested and/or cares minimally about whatever combat is/was taking place (or will take place).

The Everyday Absurdisms Of Weimerica

Prescription medication used to combat anxiety, depression, and suicidal/homicidal thoughts and actions causes anxiety, depression, and suicidal/homicidal thoughts and actions as a side effect.

A Rutgers University professor lamenting the Sandy Hook massacre so much that he made a YouTube video about it, but still believing in infanticide up to one year of age.

New Jersey has the highest paid police officers in the nation with an average salary of $100,000/year, but also has three cities in the top ten for “worst homicide rate” and those officers still have the right to shoot you to death if you don’t follow their conflicting orders to the letter while having a gun pointed at your head.

Parents working and saving money for twenty years to send their kids to college only for them to return home after graduation hating them, their country, and themselves in addition to being tens of thousands in debt.

One-fourth of graduates leaving college with a four year degree in hand are no better off than if they did not go to college at all from a wage perspective.

The maintenance staff at a college making more than most of the graduates of that college because they are unionized.

Consensual sex (“fuck me in the butt!!!”) being redefined as “rape” with such concepts as “enthusiastic consent” (Yes.=Rape, YES!=not rape), “continuing consent” (“ask every ten minutes if it’s okay to keep going”), and “affirmative consent” (“Can I hold your hand? Stroke your thigh? Whisper into your ear?”).

The wife of “American Sniper” Chris Kyle saying she married him because “he was a nice guy.”

“I do not care, I am a millionaire, I do not give AF.”

Some Classic Weimerican Quotes

“I was naked underneath my clothes.” ~A woman explaining her #metoo moment.

“CRAWL TOWARDS ME! IF YOU FALL, YOU BETTER FALL ON YOUR FACE!” ~A police officer’s reasonable and coherent order that must be obeyed upon penalty of death.

“He was turning his life around!” ~The classic family/friend lament of a dead victim/perpetrator with a less than stellar background.

“He changed into something he wasn’t.” ~The pathetic attempt of a high school chum of a mass shooter to cover up for the fact that he somehow missed what a psycho his friend was.

“Russian interference!” ~A viable excuse for anything and everything.

“The hoes are laughin’? YEP!” ~An exchange between a confused TV doctor and a 14-year-old aspiring female rap artist.

“He was COMPED!” ~The humblebrag of the coked up brother of a mass shooter/pasty.

“Stay in the car.”~A plea to do nothing and ignore the situation, whatever it may be.

When Did America Become Weimerica?

No firm answer, I first noticed it in the spring of 2009 when there was a constant stream of family murder-suicides and mass shootings, some of them recession related. Afghanistan also escalated that year (with death tolls doubling for both Britain and the US from the year prior) under the election promise of “I’ll get us out of Afghanistan, take that to the bank!”

Things really picked up steam in 2012 when large public mass shootings began occurring with increasing regularity, labor force participation hit a three decade low (meaning there was no economic recovery), and drug overdose deaths had already jumped 211% (in the Northeast) in comparison with 2010.

Bryce Lockwood, Return of Kings 18 Comments [1/4/2018 2:49:16 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 135720



My latest cartoon features a police lineup. At such an event, the eyewitness chooses a perpetrator. In this case they’re all guilty. Here is a list of the perps on display:

BARACK OBAMA
A fraud who was elected despite a stolen social security card and phony birth certificate, he became our most divisive president in history. He tried his best to destroy America in order to usher in globalism (socialism) as ordered by his Deep State masters. The Criminal in Chief allowed the Fast and Furious scandal under Eric Holder to take place, which led to murder. He gave Iran hundreds of millions of dollars, thus allowing better funding of their terrorism. He illegally spied on the Trump campaign. Obama rode rough shod over the Constitution daily.

Recommendation: Arrest and jail at Guantanamo.

HILLARY CLINTON
Her crimes are legion. A creature of the Deep State central banker complex, she’s well-versed in Alinsky tactics. She’s a sociopathic liar and cackling murderer. She had Gaddafi whacked, thus destabilizing that region. Her most recent crimes involve her private server on which she illegally kept classified email. She destroyed evidence, but always seems to be above the law. While Secretary State, she sold influence in a ‘pay for play’ scheme. Her Uranium One deal was a treasonous deal that put money in the Clinton Foundation coffers while allowing Russia to control 20 percent of our uranium reserves. That same Clinton Foundation cheated Haitian earthquake victims out of charity money. Her friend was arrested for smuggling kids out of Haiti as part of a child trafficking scheme. Satanism and pedophilia have become typical behavior among Deep State elites. Hillary destroyed evidence and promoted the big lie that Russia worked with President Trump to ‘hack’ the election. She helped fund what became the Russian ‘dossier’ on Trump, which was a complete fabrication designed to impeach the new president. Her behavior amounts to treason. Investigate and liquidate the Clinton Foundation.

Recommendation: Arrest and jail at Guantanamo. Investigate and liquidate the ClintonFoundation.

HUMA ABEDIN
Hillary’s best buddy and wife of convicted pedophile, Anthony Weiner. Hillary’s confidential email ended up getting copied to Huma’s laptop, to which Weiner had access. She’s likely a spy for the Saudis and/or the Muslim Brotherhood. She uploaded government passwords to Yahoo, where they were promptly hacked.

Recommendation: Arrest and jail at Guantanamo.

JOHN PODESTA
Wikileaks revealed his email which contained codewords for pedophilia. A ‘sprit cooking’ advocate and possibly the son of Dr. Josef Mengele, Podesta and his brother Tony are friends with the Satanist, Marina Abramovic. John Podesta recommended drastic action to stop the DNC leaks. Seth Rich was murdered shortly thereafter.

Recommendation: Arrest and jail at Guantanamo.

LORETTA LYNCH
The former Obama Attorney General met with Bill Clinton on an airport tarmac to discuss getting Hillary off the hook for her crimes. Lynch recommended to Comey that the Hillary investigation be called a ‘matter’ instead. Comey subsequently let Hillary off, saying she had ‘no intent.’ Lynch must have known that making law enforcement decisions to favor one candidate over another is criminal misconduct.

Recommendation: Arrest and jail at Guantanamo.

JAMES COMEY
The very tall FBI director made secret deals with Hillary and allowed her to destroy evidence. His investigation into Hillary was a sham. He leaked classified information in order to undermine President Trump. He’s another example of the politicization and corruption of law enforcement officials.

Recommendation:
Arrest and jail at Guantanamo.

GEORGE SOROS
The leftist billionaire donated hefty sums to Hillary’s campaign and to the Clinton Foundation. He also donated big money to anti-Trump protest organizations. Some organizations he funds also incite riots and murder. In other words, he funds anti-American groups and terrorists.

Recommendation: Arrest and confiscation of his fortune.

JOHN MCCAIN
The hot-headed (and cancer-headed) senator from Arizona is already a war criminal, so it’s no surprise to hear about his ties to ISIS terrorists. He doesn’t stop at mere sedition, however. A year ago, McCain handed off the bundle of lies known as the ‘Trump Russian Dossier’ over to James Comey, so that the former FBI chief might start an investigation that would lead to President Trump’s impeachment. McCain engaged in treason.

Recommendation: Arrest and jail at Guantanamo.

BILL CLINTON
The former president and Sexual Assaulter in Chief received $500,000 from Russia for a speech. It was really compensation from the Uranium One deal. Bill also received gifts including one million dollars from Qatar. The Clintons are grifters and whores who have always been all-too willing to sell out their country for a buck. Their money laundering outfit known as the Clinton Foundation raked in billions of dollars from influence peddling, while masquerading as a charity organization. Haitian earthquake victims only saw a drop of the money earmarked for them via the Clinton Foundation. Bill made 26 trips aboard his billionaire friend Jeffery Epstein’s ‘Lolita Express’ to ‘Orgy Island.’ Clinton has a long past of sexual harassment and abuse of women, starting when he was governor of Arkansas.

Recommendation: Arrest and jail at Guantanamo.

DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ
New evidence has come out that she may have ordered the murder of DNC staffer Seth Rich, who leaked DNC corruption news to Wikileaks. Responsible for hiring and vastly overpaying her IT aide, Imran Awan, who transferred massive data from a House server to Pakistan. Threatened police not to look at evidence on a missing laptop that they had secured. Schultz made sure primaries were rigged in favor of Hillary.

Recommendation: Arrest and jail at Guantanamo.

Let’s hope President Trump has ordered the preparation of a great many jail cells at Guantanamo. They’ll be needed!

Ben Garrison, Grrr Graphics 23 Comments [1/4/2018 12:53:12 PM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 135718



Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones is selling a “limited edition” of a children’s book that depicts President Donald Trump as a cartoon bunny named Thump. The book promotes white nationalist imagery and makes light of the video of Trump admitting to sexually assaulting women and the national outrage that followed.

The book, called Thump: The First Bundred Days, was written by a group of co-authors including Brett R. Smith, the creative director of the Steve Bannon-backed Clinton Cash: A Graphic Novel, and Timothy Lim, who has worked with Marvel, Lucasfilm, and Hasbro. The book is published by Post Hill Press, whose books are distributed by Simon and Schuster.

The online store of Jones’ conspiracy theory outlet Infowars is selling the book with an exclusive poster showing Jones and Thump and describes the product as “the perfect book for teaching your kids or reading through it for yourself!”

Jones hosted Smith for a promotional interview on January 3, and flipped through the book, revealing some of its disturbing content.

On one page that Jones showed, the text read, “Thump found friends in strange places and in all shapes and sizes. Such as the frogs that croaked ‘KEK!’ They were full of surprises!”



The line is a reference to Pepe the Frog, an originally innocuous cartoon that was transformed into a talisman for white nationalism during the 2016 presidential campaign.

The book also references a video released in October 2016 that showed Trump bragging about sexually assaulting women. Thump reads, “Thump was caught talking of grabbing all things pusillanimous. Protesters even made pink hats: their ire was unanimous.”



Although pusillanimous is a synonym for cowardly, it’s a reference to Trump saying that he grabbed women “by the pussy.”

During segments of the broadcast, which also featured far-right troll and “Pizzagate” conspiracy theorist Jack Posobiec, Smith explained, “We really wanted to come out with something fun and light, something that kids and adults, all Trump supporters could enjoy.”

Jones lavished praise on the book, suggesting people donate copies to their local libraries (after purchasing them from Infowars), and saying, “This is genius.” Smith added that what’s “great about Thump as well is that parents can use Thump to talk to their kids about Trump, and they can say, ‘No, Thump is a good guy, he’s the hero that we need.’”

Trump appeared on Jones’ show in 2015 to praise the conspiracy theorist’s “amazing” reputation. Since then, Jones has been a sycophantic supporter of Trump. He’s said he communicates with Trump and writes him memos, and most recently defended the president’s penis.

Alex Jones & Brett R. Smith, Media Matters For America 13 Comments [1/4/2018 12:49:19 PM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 135714

And Planned Parenthood will support any kind of sex as long as it is sterile.

That is why they provide contraceptives.

When the contraceptive fails abortion is “provided.”

Their original business plan has failed because it killed off millions of future female customers in the womb.

“A nation that kills its own children is a nation without hope.”

Saint Pope John Paul II

victim soul, Free Republic 15 Comments [1/4/2018 11:22:03 AM]
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Muslims believe in the Shariah Law because we believe Allah ta'ala/God All-Mighty is the Best of Judges, free of all corruption, Always Just ...

we don't condone democracy which is the Rule of the People for the People by the people,

People do not know whats good and bad for them better than their Creator.

any practising Christian would understand,

but of course there is an Abundance of Godless Christians who are Christian by name only,

Most of them don't even believe in the Bible, let alone God,

regards

Saif-Uddin, Ummah 9 Comments [1/4/2018 11:20:52 AM]
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But it is evidence which denies my power to consciously choose, therefore it must be flawed.

Alan Burns, Religion and Ethics 8 Comments [1/4/2018 11:17:32 AM]
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You know, there was someone who commented here and informed me that they're a believer and didn't vote for Roy Moore (although they could've). I won't share their name out of respect and privacy, but in that instant, I lost so much respect for that person. All i can do is pray for them now. Why is it that the alt-left (Virginia, Kentucky, and California -- as well as D.C. declined to comply with the commission's requests can come to gather to deny freedom and try to destroy America), but a professing conservative and believer couldn't do the right thing and vote for American freedom??
I'm almost speechless.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 22 Comments [1/4/2018 9:12:42 AM]
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"I can't believe this!" My mind screamed for surely it was capable of conveying panic to me much more loudly, and with far greater speed, than my legs were currently carrying me!
"I'm going to ram the Savior! What a swell way to begin eternity!" I inwardly lamented as my feet pounded upon the thick, green grass as I joyously careened down the knoll. I was an out-of-control, heat-seeking missile and the Son of God was the bogey on my radar!
"It wasn't bad enough what they did to Him while He walked upon the earth?!" My mind wailed, berating myself for my decided lack of dignity as my onward rush to judgment continued. "And now I'm... I'm actually going to send the King of Kings reeling? Oh my word!"
This awkward moment was nothing like the first time I had met Jesus in person, but every time I see Him I feel compelled to hurry to get to Him. I mean really, wouldn't you? But, it's not as if we don't have all the time in... eternity, right? Still, greeting the Son of God is always thrilling! It was always an odd mixture ot thankfulness and joyfulness, panic and terror, and yes, for some odd reason it was usually... way out of control! Yet the day had begun so beautifully, which just goes to prove that looks can definitely be deceiving. Read on, and file it under the category of: Don't Let This Happen to You!

Barbara Butterfield, Journeys With Jesus 16 Comments [1/4/2018 3:38:19 AM]
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You are trying to have your cake and eat it too. You claim that there is no Self because our awareness and identity is affected when we sleep or in case of brain injury etc. Yet, just to get over the determination problem, you are willing to accept that the Unconscious mind drives our lives.

If you agree that the Unconscious mind is the real driver of our lives behind the conscious mind....then the issue of the Self being hidden behind the conscious mind is solved. The unconscious mind is or is part of the Soul. We (meaning... the conscious mind) have no idea what all this is or how it all works in any case. So what is the problem?

Determinism only affects the material world because it is subject to physical laws. The Unconscious mind (the soul) need not be subject to these laws. It is the element that influences and intervenes in our lives and directs not only our individual lives but all evolution itself.

Sriram, Religion and Ethics 11 Comments [1/4/2018 3:38:06 AM]
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A being can be absolute, you're defining it differently doesn't make it not so, and God is absolute and it's His morality, which makes it absolute. It's always wrong to rape a baby, to put it into practice.

SirShamgar, amazon  7 Comments [1/4/2018 3:37:57 AM]
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Would You Rather Live In A Society Controlled By Sharia Law Or Social Justice?

David is a lifelong dissident and intellectual rebel. He despises political correctness, which replaces real, needy victims with narcissistic leftists out for a free meal. Though still a young man, he has watched society descend into its present morass with great sadness, combined with a determination to help make things better. He tweets when there’s something worth tweeting here.

If the flame of the West is snuffed out and the choice is between Islam and “social justice,” I’m choosing the former. Return Of Kings has long pointed out the travesty of open borders migration, which brings in hordes of anti-Western young men from the Middle East. Notwithstanding this, Islamized societies are much more preferable to the many social sicknesses pushed by SJWs.

Should our values be basically exterminated, aside from private contrarian opinions, I am certain that at least superficially going along with Islam will be the right choice for readers of this website as well. The legitimate criticisms we might have of Islam and its applications within countries pale in comparison to the anti-civilization core of so-called social justice. At least we can say that Muslim men are motivated by basic notions of patriarchy and an acknowledgment of gender differences.

The better of two bad situations

Here are just some of the advantages a society based on Sharia Law has over a “society” predicated on social justice principles:

* Unless you fall afoul of a member of the social or political elite, a false rape accusation against a man is extremely unlikely;
* No affirmative action quota is apt to take your job or promotion away from you and give it to a woman;
* The court systems will not buttress the power of activists and others who insist that your child has the “right” to be injected with hormones of the opposite sex and remove the genitals they were born with;
* Crime in your neighborhood will be dealt with, instead of local authorities or the judiciary determining punishments based on gender or race;
* Female hypergamy will be kept in check; and
* When couples divorce, the wife will know that she will almost never be unjustly enriched, like women with little earning power who get multimillion-dollar payouts from husbands for the rest of their lives.

Put simply, the average man will face far less persecution in an Islamized society than one run by SJWs. Without being defeatist, should the West need to die for a time, embracing Islam is the logical choice for someone who wants to make the most of a collapsed political order.

There’s weight in numbers, too

In addition to the rough ideological affinities we share with patriarchal Muslims, demographic realities support the idea of choosing Islam over leftism (if a choice could ever exist). Germany, the United Kingdom, and France are all projected to have Muslim populations of around 20% mid-century. A social laboratory like Sweden will be nearly a third Muslim by that time. Moreover, the political salience of these communities will be even greater than these soon-to-be massive numbers suggest, including the ability to use, like now, aggressive tactics to further Islamic interests.

The mostly pozzed non-Muslim majority will have to kowtow much of the time to the newer arrivals and their descendants. By 2050, expect the incompetence of SJWs to be fully laid to bare, with the authorities powerless to stop the encroachment of strict Muslim values in, say, a “liberal” France or Sweden. Given the option to join with either self-respecting Muslims or obsequious leftists, I know what decision I will be making, potentially long before 2050.

What’s your plan?

Roosh recently spoke about the black pill and the need to accept that all we can sometimes do is enjoy the social decline around us. Likewise, the Age of Trump hasn’t changed many of the deleterious SJW influences within our universities, media outlets, and “popular culture.” The end is not right around the corner, but a lot is still wrong with our societies.

Once the actual fall comes, however, people will have to stop observing and make choices. Inasmuch as we cannot predict everything, the probable successors to Western civilization are already known to us. As of 2017, adopting Islam in the future is the more common sense course of action.

David G. Brown, Return of Kings 16 Comments [1/4/2018 3:37:42 AM]
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The Orthodox Church Is The Answer To Reviving Christianity In Europe And Saving The West

Maximus is a Man, capital M, period. Love. Truth. Justice. Liberty. Respect. These are the lodestones pointing true to magnetic masculinity in a polarized feminist west. His goal for writing on ROK is to be the gadfly that provokes thought and counters groupthink. You can find more of his writing at A Dream That Was Rome .

First let us take a look at a Christian faith that is strong, vibrant and alive.

Christianity is a beautiful faith. For all my previous criticism of its intellectual formulation, the one thing it gets 100% correct is that it actually enshrines the nuclear family unit – Father, Son and virgin Mother. In that respect, it is more patriarchal than Islam in overtly formulating The Father as divine authority, The Son as heir to that authority, and the virgin Mary as model all women should aspire to be as wife and mother. The video above is a 26 minute silent reflection on life inside a men’s Orthodox Christian monastery in Abkhazia. The power of the documentary is palpable for its very lack of speech and thus quiet testimony to the essence of Christian truth – the worship of God through Jesus Christ.

After the passionate response to my last essay, I went on YouTube to look up what I could find on the Eastern Orthodox faith. Here is a great video series I would like to share with you all.

For Christianity to return and thrive in Europe & The West, there must be unity.

The single biggest advantage of the Orthodox faith is its unity. There is simply too much division and conflict in almost all flavours of Christianity outside the Roman Catholic Church. Historically, the Orthodox faith does not have a real history of theology (per se). That is, the Orthodox don’t think too much or question too deeply about their faith. They accept. They believe. They practice. Most importantly, they do not allow any change – none – to what they believe is the original church handed down to humanity from St. Paul.

For the Orthodox, it is not about the intellectual foundations (i.e. theology) so much as the community of worshipers and keeping to past traditions. They keep to what their ancestors practiced and see no need to change anything. Doing so would be a grave break and violation of the past, a complete insult to the body of Christ and the family tradition that has been passed down for generations to preserve the faith.

Eastern Orthodox Christianity has kept the original Byzantine rituals and formulations for worship. A good example of its seriousness and unwillingness to change is the fact that they will not let anyone who is not Orthodox to take part in communion. They see communion as a serious ritual, the true taking in of the body and life of Christ, His word, and His salvation. To allow just anyone to partake without proper preparation, proper orientation, and proper intention, is dangerous. The liturgy and hymns are also old. They go back all the way to the original church over 1000 years ago and more. The swinging incense pots is not some ornate flashy thing they do, there is real spiritual purpose and foundation to everything in an Orthodox liturgical mass.

What I have just described is practiced by all Orthodox churches which may strike many American Protestants and Evangelicals as odd. The different designations (Greek, Ukrainian, Russian, etc.) are nothing more than jurisdictional boundaries. If you are Russian, you want to go to mass in your language and with your people. Each church is local and loosely affiliated with the others, but there is no over arching official hierarchy, no Pope as it were for the ENTIRE faith. What unites them as Orthodox is not a single authority ON doctrine (per se), but common faith IN practice (de rigueur).

In many ways, Martin Luther was a revolt against the Pope having authority over how to worship by the local community. His opposition to Indulgences and a paper titled “The Pagan Servitude To The Church” are reminiscent of my own intellectual wrestling trying to understand Christianity. For Luther, it was ultimately about a return of faith to the followers of Christ, not blind obedience to papal authority for which he saw no authority given to it.

@Martin Luther ~ Wikipedia:
His theology challenged the authority and office of the Pope by teaching that the Bible is the only source of divinely revealed knowledge from God[3] and opposed sacerdotalism by considering all baptized Christians to be a holy priesthood.


Ironically, in Eastern Orthodox, the power of the church rests in the local faithful and has forever been this way. In one video, a story is told about an Orthodox priest who was invited to a world religions syncretic type seminar where he was quoted at the end of the conference as saying “Yes, there are many paths to God and all are valid.” When he returned to his local church and went to put the key in the door, the local church members had already changed the locks!!! How many Catholics would like to do that to the current Pope?!?! This is why the East rejected authority of Rome over THEIR religion. Christ belongs to the people, from God, and the Eastern Orthodox have protected this faith and non-hierarchical organization since the beginning of Christianity.

Why is it that Eastern Christians are agreeable about this? Why don’t they clamour and agitate for new stuff, for revision, for updating? The reason is that in the East, we expect the faith to actually do something. It isn’t just a matter of having the right institution, or having the right theology, though I believe the Orthodox church does have those things. That’s not what does it, really. It’s that we expect that practicing this faith will change people. And you know what? We see that it actually does. We see it over and over again. We see it in contemporary lives. We see people actually transformed.


To an Orthodox, they practice because it works, not just because it is right.

This… that single statement… would unite all Christianity. Gone would be the divisions, the arguments, the 1000s of flavours of Christ by each Protestant wanting to be a Pope.

If I ever become Christian, it will be in the Orthodox faith. This single video series has proved to me beyond a shadow of doubt that what the Orthodox has works. It works because…

Even after over 70 plus years of Communist oppression & outright murder, the faith has rebounded

Russians are Orthodox because faith in Christ works, not just because it is right. If you have ever known a Russian, you know how much they value what works and not what is bullshit. My intellectualization and analysis of Christianity is precisely the problem in The West. No single Christian tradition in The West, outside of the Catholic faith, can truly claim that what they have works, but they have ALL argued and warred for centuries about being right.

If Western Christianity did work, people would not have left. Leaving aside the massive hurdle of getting Westerners to actually stop being atheists or completely ignoring God, a Christian faith that can actually claim to work is precisely what will get someone like me back in the church. A claim I must repeat, that is actually backed up by evidence, not rhetoric.

The final video I want to close off with is an Orthodox explanation of salvation.

This… brought tears to my eyes. It actually answered one, if not THE, core complaint Westerners have about Christianity as they know it – you are condemned to hell if you reject Christ, and no amount of good works or deeds or repentance can save you if you do not accept Christ, the end. Of importance to note, this priest refers to God only when explaining the Orthodox version of salvation; it is God, not Jesus that is the focus of Eastern Orthodox faith. I suspect this is why the Protestants split from The Vatican and we can see it in their further splintering right up to today; Protestants wanted more Jesus and less God talk from the Pope because it was Jesus that truly saves. (Once again, you can see why a non-Christian starts to scratch his head in puzzlement.)

This Orthodox version of salvation is one I have never heard from any Christian priest or pastor in The West. If Europe, if America, were to hear the message of God in the Orthodox faith, I think you would have a revival like none we have ever witnessed in the past. In fact, the whole Theoria YouTube channel is, I suspect, a production created for just that reason. Thousands of disillusioned Protestants and other long lost former Christians are filling the Orthodox churches. The Theoria video series was created to help orient and guide the newly faithful. Is their any other church outside Catholicism that is seeing this kind of resurgence? (Assuming Catholicism is seeing an influx, I do not know and just speculating because it too has a good history of unity in faith and would be The West’s oldest incarnation of Christianity.)

Conclusion

Putin is demonized in the West for many things, but the one reason “they” hate him the most? Putin and Russia are a walking, talking, living reminder of a faith they thought was all but extinct by their design and command. Putin’s Christian message is not just reaching America, but the entirety of Europe. Note as well that Putin is an astounding example of the claim to proof that the Orthodox faith works.

He has single-handedly inserted himself in Syria and reversed what was not just the holocaust of Syrian Christians, but the globalist plan to balkanize the region with Iran being the last Muslim nation standing in their way. For all those who claim Islam is favored by the elites and want it to take over Europe, just look to Muslim lands where, regardless of how you feel about Islam as a religion, the homeland of Muslim faith is being literally bombed into oblivion in a way Christian “Muslim invasion” Europe is not. Make no mistake, after Islam’s “victory” in Europe, it will be up next for targeted wholesale destruction by they who hate God more than they hate humanity.

I have no doubt that if Europe and The West can find its way back to Christianity, our future will look as bright as Russia’s. From even this most minimal and cursory review of the Eastern Orthodox faith, it is the only path back to Christ in Europe and The West that I can see actually working.

What Christianity needs is unity of faith, unity of belief, unity of practice and unity in God. All of this is found in the Eastern Orthodox church and nowhere else.

[Emphasis original]

Maximus Decimus Meridius, Return of Kings 7 Comments [1/4/2018 3:37:33 AM]
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3 Reasons To Join The Eastern Orthodox Church

Michael is a Christian, a copywriter, an author, and a marketing consultant. He believes the West is experiencing divine wrath for turning our backs on God, and that the only hope for salvation is to unite under one faithful banner as our enemies have under theirs.

Friends and brothers, it’s been quite a while since I last wrote to you. Between my consulting business and my growing interest in the world of blockchain technology, I’ve had a lot on my plate lately.

But the time seems right for me to come back to Return Of Kings and share a bit more of my journey with you. The rhythm I aim for in life is to learn and grow, then share and teach.

Today’s topic, Eastern Orthodoxy, is something I’d never even heard of when my last article here was published. But since discovering what it is and delving deeper into its mysteries, it’s consumed an enormous amount of my time and attention.

So much of it, in fact, that I recently decided to leave my Wesleyan ways behind and become a full-fledged member of the Orthodox Church. Today, I’d like to share with you my top three reasons for doing so.

1. It’s The Church That Jesus Planted

During my time as a Protestant, it never even occurred to me that a denomination existed reaching all the way back to the time of the apostles.

Once I realized there was an unbroken chain of tradition reaching back nearly 2,000 years, I began to ask an entirely new kind of question. What did they teach? How did they worship? What did they believe? How did it get transmitted through time like that?

I’ve always believed that, whatever you’re trying to do in life, it’s usually better to go straight to the earliest sources than to adhere to newer interpretations. It’s as true with Christianity as it is for copywriting, and I still consider the old Schwartz and Hopkins advertising books to surpass almost everything that’s come out since.

I discovered that the students of the Biblical apostles had written down a fair amount of material regarding ancient Christian practice and belief. From that point on, I could never really look at Protestantism in the same light.

After all, why would I follow the doctrines of the 16th century when I could follow the doctrines of the 1st century instead? It simply made no sense to me that someone who didn’t personally know Christ or the apostles could have more understanding and insight than the men who did.

Christ gave the apostles pretty specific directions, and Paul taught those traditions to all the churches he planted and visited during his ministry. The students of the apostles upheld the traditions and taught them to their own students, and so on and so forth right up until the present day.

Best of all, Orthodox services feel like being transplanted directly into the ancient Christian world. That sense of reverence, holiness, and solemnity can inspire the soul in a way that electric guitar music simply cannot.

Being surrounded by the Saints is a very humbling experience.

2. It’s Untainted By Cultural Marxism

It is not unusual, among Protestant churches, to hear preaching that’s fully aligned with Social Justice ideology and the Cultural Marxism that spawned it. This takes on different forms and manifests to different degrees, but it can reach levels that—at its worst—makes the preaching of a church utterly indistinguishable from what you’d hear at a typical liberal arts college.

This is not only revolting to most normal and healthy men, but also tends to result in lower church attendance. It is well-documented that “the more liberal the church, the emptier the pews.”

Between the ordination of unrepentant sinners and the preaching of the “prosperity gospel,” it is not surprising that Protestantism is losing its core male audience. This is more than a statistic; it is a tragedy.

Scripture tells us, in no uncertain terms, that men are to lead both church and home. With a lack of masculine leadership forming a new generation of young boys into developed and effective leaders, all of society suffers.

However, you will find nothing like these problems in Eastern Orthodoxy. 100% of the clergy are men, and they follow an ancient tradition of hierarchy and rank.

This tradition—for thousands of years—has naturally taught younger men the healthy dynamics of both obedience and command. The fruit of this effort is an endless chain of men who are prepared for their role as leaders in society.

Equally important, there is little to no trace of the Evangelical Zionism which I was already frustrated with before I’d discovered Orthodoxy. Unlike most Protestant denominations, Orthodoxy follows the proper Scriptural understanding that believers in Christ are the true “people of Israel.”

In Matthew 16:18, Jesus tells the apostle Peter that “the gates of Hell will not overcome” His Church.

You can decide for yourself whether lesbian Zionists or alpha male patriarchs better represent the Church that Jesus had in mind.

3. It Offers Deeper Theology And A Richer Experience

I am not trying to attack all of Protestantism with this article. I am still friends with the people I met there, and maintain a deep love for my pastors and their passion for God.

I’m profoundly grateful for my experience in the Wesleyan denomination, and I would never be where I am today unless I had learned the basics of Christianity there.

But that’s just it… it stops at the basics. Jesus died for your sins, now you’re saved, and that’s where it ends.

Orthodoxy, drawing on monastic wisdom going back to at least the 4th century, invites the seeker into a deep mystical understanding of God that far surpasses the typical experience.

“Hillsong? Never heard of her.”

I’m not going to sit here and tell you that I have any real understanding of the Orthodox mystery, because I have barely even knocked at the door. However, I can feel the power coming from the other side and greatly look forward to exploring it further.

Each day of my studies draws me in deeper and deeper, as new levels of both God’s glory—and my own sinfulness by comparison—are revealed to me. It is humbling, it is powerful, and it’s a fuller experience than I knew existed just a few short months ago.

Protestants have the appetizer; the Orthodox serve the meal.

If you are ready to deepen your relationship with Jesus Christ or even to start one…the way that all the apostles and their students did…I highly recommend you check out an Orthodox service sometime and examine it for yourself.

The priests are incredibly helpful to inquirers, and several of them have taken the time to guide me towards various resources or respond to my questions via e-mail.

Even if your nearest Orthodox Church is 20 or 30 minutes away, I think it will be worth your time and effort to make it to a Vespers (on Saturday night) or a Divine Liturgy (on Sunday morning) to see if what it offers matches what you’re looking for.

God bless and Merry Christmas.

Michael Witcoff, Return of Kings 7 Comments [1/4/2018 3:37:25 AM]
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But millionaries and billionaries are better than everyday people in terms of hard work and intelligence, so them having more is bound to happen.

RetroSpriteResources, DeviantArt 14 Comments [1/3/2018 3:13:48 PM]
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