Quote# 136408

Do you know what witchcraft is? Witchcraft is seeking help or guidance from any spiritual source other than God.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 18 Comments [2/3/2018 2:29:15 PM]
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Quote# 136405

Business as Usual




Robin Egg:
The twilight zone is what it felt like looking at the dems at SOTU. They are so filled with hate they cannot see their own folly. Not one ounce of humanity left in them.

Mick Williams:
It's scary to think about the power wielded by those pretty faces.

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 18 Comments [2/3/2018 11:41:13 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 136404

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Mark Of The Beast To Launch From Revived Roman Empire? Mastercard Wants All Buying & Selling Done Via Face And Hand Scanning Starting Next Year... AND ALL BANKS MUST COMPLY"

(Text from wolfstreet.com reproduced here)

By Don Quijones, Spain, UK, & Mexico, editor at WOLF STREET.

Mastercard has set a deadline for widespread use of biometric identification for its services across the whole of the EU: April 2019. Mastercard Identity Check, currently available in 37 countries, enables individuals to use biometric identifiers, such as fingerprint, facial, and iris recognition, to verify their identities when using a mobile device for online shopping and banking. The technology is not mandatory for customers, but from next year it will be vigorously promoted throughout the EU and many consumers will welcome it.

The impact will be felt not just by consumers but also by most European banks, since any bank that issues or accepts Mastercard payments will have to support identification mechanisms for remote transactions, alongside existing PIN and password verification. The deadline will also apply to all contactless transactions made at terminals with a mobile device.

Citing research it carried out with Oxford University, Mastercard says that 92% of banking professionals want to introduce biometric ID. This high number shouldn’t come as much of a surprise given the vast untapped value consumer data holds for banks and corporations as well the preference most banks have for electronic transactions. The study also claims that 93% of consumers would prefer biometric security to passwords, which is a surprise given the array of thorny issues biometrics throws up, including the threat it poses to privacy and anonymity and its deceptively public nature.

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified. Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

GoodFriend:
I sure was happy for biometrics when my lost puppy was returned to me because he had a chip inserted. I think it will be a good thing. I would feel safer knowing where my children are at anytime. And they could find me as well.

So, you would sell your soul? There are other ways to keep up with your children, but what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?

Revelation 13:16-18 (KJV)
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Revelation 14:9-11 (KJV)
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Please seek Jesus Christ.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 19 Comments [2/3/2018 11:41:10 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 136402

If you've ever had or funded an abortion before: THIS is who you gave your baby to! It's name is Moloch. And it's an ancient demon from the infernal world that people sacrifice babies to in order to gain personal power, prosperity and favor.

Jesus Christ enacted a death warrant against this demon and all others when He died on the cross and rose again. (Colossians 2:15) It's day of ultimate doom is soon coming.

But why are Christians still empowering this beast by voting for Democrats who promote abortion as one of the main platforms of the Democrat Party??? How will you stand judged before the God of all the Universe when you must give an account of your time spent here on Earth? Will you stand guilty of supporting demonic ideologies; or exonerated?

Repent Christian! Beg God's forgiveness for your sin of demonic sacrifice! And make no mistake about it: if you're still voting as a Democrat and supporting its political viewpoints as a Christian, you're voting for demons. And GOD WILL JUDGE YOU JUST LIKE HE WILL JUDGE THEM!

"But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death." Revelation 21:8



Mack Major, Facebook 27 Comments [2/3/2018 11:40:58 AM]
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Quote# 136401

[Comments under "r/FULLFASCISM banned for proliferation of violent content"]

@Kouyate42:

/r/FULLFASCISM poster here. If they've banned this subreddit then they should at least show some logical consistency and ban the likes of /r/FULLCOMMUNISM. It's not hard to find posts on there from people who want to see people brutally murdered, and whilst I know some of it is likely circle-jerking I also strongly suspect that some of them are not joking. I mean, there's people on there who'd want to see me strung up from the gallows purely for my political beliefs.

I mean, if your political beliefs advocate violence against minorities than yes, people are going to wish you harm.

Christ, at least fascists in the 30s had the balls to come out and say 'we don't like freedom of speech or you queers and commies. Come fight me.'

Now you all cower behind 'it's just my opinion' and bleat about the meanies that dont like you.

To explain the inherent difference: i want you to stop being a fascist. If you stop being a fascist I have literally no problem with you.

If fascists would just stop organising for the genocide of minorities people will stop organising for the death of fascists. And no. This is not a 'hypocritical statement', not all violence is equal, not all political violence is equal.

From Kouyate42:

Had I actually been around in the 30s I would happily have worn the brown shirt (I'm a Strasserite NatSoc), or even the black, and been an open fascist. Sadly I live in a time and in a country where such an action would be illegal.

As to the genocide of minorities, it's clear from this you've never read a single page of any fascist author. Take my own ideology of Strasserism- in Germany Tomorrow, probably the central book for Strasserism, Otto Strasser himself is clear in his denouncement of the concentration camps (I can even give you quotes if you want), of antisemitism and of Hitler's policies on Jews. He even wrote a chapter in this book called 'A Note On The Jewish Question'. Similarly British Fascist Sir Oswald Mosley never once advocated for the death of or harm to come to any minority- rather he recognised that Britain as a country possessing an empire there existed many different races and creeds which all needed their own attention. Mussolini in his earliest ideas was also dismissive of the concept of race being a concern and only adopted ideas to the contrary much later. Genocide or the discrimination of minorities is not an intrinsic part of fascism at all.

If you want me to stop being a fascist, then present me with some good arguments as to why I should change my mind. I'm an open-minded, reasonable person and with it, I will happily consider any arguments given. However you cannot whinge if I come to a conclusion you don't like or agree with- that's how freedom of opinion actually works. Far too many people and especially leftists seem to think it's a one way street where this freedom only applies if the person happens to begin agreeing with them.

Kouyate42, Reddit - r/AgainstHateSubreddits 10 Comments [2/3/2018 11:39:28 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 136399

Baha'i is straight from the pits of hell. They are a dangerous false religion because they claim to be "Christian," but they certainly are not. Baha'is claim to believe that Jesus is the Saviour They acknowledge Christ's virgin birth. They believe in the resurrection of Christ. They believe in the second coming and the rapture. So what is wrong about this increasingly popular religion?

All Religions One

To begin with, they teach that all religions are one in the same. Here what you'll find at www.bahai.org...

"All divine Revelations come from the same Source; thus, the religions identified with them are in essence one. They differ in the measure of their teachings and particularly in their social laws and principles, appropriate to the times in which they appeared. The successive divine Revelations over the centuries have provided the spiritual force and laws for the advancement of civilization. Abraham, Krishna, Zoroaster, Moses, Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammad were all divine Messengers; the Báb and Baha'u'llah are the most recent. The coming of Baha'u'llah represents the fulfillment of this centuries’ long process of progressive revelation and of the expectations inspired by previous divine Messengers for the ultimate unity of peoples and peace among nations. -SOURCE

Buddha? Zoroaster? Krishna?...divine messengers? You left out Muhammad. The Word of God declares that salvation can ONLY be found through Jesus Christ. Acts 4:10-12 clearly teaches that there is NO OTHER NAME by which we can be saved,"...that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Not one of the men recognized as "divine messengers" by the Baha'is taught that Jesus was the ONLY Way to heaven. They were FALSE prophets!!!

Also please notice what the ultimate goal of the Baha'i faith is at the end of the quote given above..."the ultimate unity of peoples and peace among nations." Although that goal "sounds" mighty noble, is it in agreement with the Word of God? Let's see, the Word of God teaches..."Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you" -2nd Corinthians 6:14-17. The teachings of Baha'i are NOT based upon the Truth of God's Word; therefore, we are to separate from them because they are unbelievers. It is to NO surprise that such a one-world minded religion would be very popular with the New Age movement of our day, and it surely is.

The truth is that religion is the worst thing to ever happen to this sin-cursed world. Salvation is NOT found in a religion, but in a Person--The Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 16:31). According to Matthew 7:14, only a very small handful of people will ever make it into heaven. Do you know why? Simply because so many people have religion without Truth, Churchianity without Christianity. You need to be born again my friend (John 3:3). This world is wicked and needs Jesus. "And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness." -1st John 5:19. "

Baha'is Deny the Sin Nature of Man

The Baha'i religion denies the sin nature of man...

"In the Bahá'í view, the purpose of this life on earth is for each individual to develop the spiritual and moral qualities that lie at the core of his or her nature. Bahá'u'lláh referred to the human being as a "mine rich in gems of inestimable value." These "gems" or qualities can be "mined" or developed only when a person turns to God." -SOURCE

"Develop the spiritual and moral qualities?" You've got to be kidding me? The Word of God teaches that we are ALL sinners, dirty-rotten hell-deserving sinners!!! Romans 3:10-12 declares, "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one." Also, Romans 3:23, "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" You and I are wicked sinners. Don't compare yourself to the criminals you hear about on the news, or perhaps you might become self-righteous. Compare yourself to the Word of God, and you'll come up looking like a sinner. We have ALL broken God's commands at times. We are ALL sinners by nature. Romans 5:12 teaches that we are ALL born with a sin-nature, not with "spiritual and moral qualities." "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" -Romans 5:12.

Sinful Human Desires are Not Evil or Bad

Baha'is foolishly disregard the Biblical teaching that ALL men are sinners, inherently evil by nature (Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 3:10,23). Jesus said in Matthew 5:28 that for a man to even lust after a woman is considered adultery. Jesus taught that the sins of the heart are just as wicked in God's eyes as sins of the flesh. Here is what Baha'is teach...

"In contrast to a number of other religious doctrines and philosophies, the Bahá'í Faith does not teach that the physical desires of human beings are "evil" or "bad." Everything in God's creation is regarded as essentially and fundamentally good. In fact, the very purpose of the human body and its physical faculties is to serve as a proper vehicle for the development of the soul. As the energies of the body are gradually brought under the conscious control of the soul, they become instruments for the expression of spiritual qualities. It is only undisciplined physical passions that become causes of harm, and hinder spiritual progress." -SOURCE

Baha'i is full of lies. The Devil works to DESENSITIZE people concerning the wickedness of sin. In contrast, the Word of God makes us very aware of sin (which is why the world hates the Bible so much, John 3:20). Just as Wiccans, Baha'is do not recognize wrong doing as being a sin. "Sin" is a Biblical term that implies judgment from a Divine God. Deceitfully, Baha'is call themselves "Christians." No one can be a Biblical Christian who does not accept the plain Scriptural teaching that all men are sinful, under the condemnation of the Law until their sins are forgiven in Christ Jesus.

Ezekiel 14:3 reads, "Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their heart..." You see friend, idolatry is in the heart. The reason why Catholics bow to their idols is because they are idolaters in their heart. Jesus said that from the HEART comes all wickedness..."For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders..." -Mark 7:21. This is why education, reformation, and religion will never tame the savage beast of mankind . . . because all of these intellectual vehicles appeal to the mind of man, NOT to his heart. Salvation is of the heart..."For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness..." -Romans 10:10.

Baha'is Worship a False god

Although Baha'is recognize the existence of one god, their god is NOT the God of the Bible. Baha'is teach the same New Age garbage of enlightenment and self-improvement. Take a look at their official website and you realize quickly that Baha'i is NOT Christian. Any knowledgeable Bible-believer knows that Allah is NOT God, he is a mythical character. The Islamic Muslims deny that Jesus ever died on the cross. They dent that Jesus was the Son of God. Muslims deny Christ, which makes them "antichrists" according to 1st John 2:22, "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son." Read the following statement from the official website of Baha'i...

"Although we may have different concepts of God's nature, although we may pray to Him in different languages and call Him by different names--Allah or Yahweh, God or Brahma--nevertheless, we are speaking about the same unique Being." -SOURCE

Talk about New Age doctrine! Allah is NOT God!!! Allah is the false god of the Muslims. Allah CANNOT be the same God as the Christian God because the Bible proclaims that Jesus Christ is Almighty God (John 1:1-4,14; Revelation 1:8). Jesus is the Son of God according to John 3:16, but Muslims teach from the Koran that God has no Son. Clearly, there can be NO harmony between the Word of God and the Koran. Yet, Baha'is prey upon the ignorance and indifference of today's worldly religious crowd. All over the world people are joining all sorts of wishy-washy religions that have a form of godliness, but deny the existence of an Individual, Personal God. "Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away" -2nd Timothy 3:5. The Devil is homogenizing the world's religions into ONE to prepare the unsaved masses to receive the antichrist when he appears. We often hear about a "one-world religion," but it will more than likely be many religions which have all adapted to the "politically correct" New Age religion. I say "politically correct" because the agenda of our apostate time is to accept everyone in the name of love, while turning a blind-eye to wickedness and doctrinal heresy. It is sinful for believers to unite with the wicked (2nd Corinthians 6:14-17). It is far better to be separated over Truth, than to be united be error. The Word of God is Truth (John 17:17).

Baha'is Deny Jesus Christ as the ONLY Way to Heaven

Baha'is do NOT recognize Jesus Christ as being any greater than Moses, Muhammad or Buddha. The Bible declares that at the NAME OF JESUS shall every knee bow, and NO other name (Philippians 2:10, "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth."

"There can be little disagreement that human history is strongly influenced by the Founders of the world's great religions. The powerful impact on civilization of Jesus Christ, Buddha, Moses, or Muhammad is seen not only in the cultural forms and value systems which arise from their works and teachings, but is also reflected in the effects that the example of their lives has on humankind." -SOURCE

Did you read that? Baha'is recognize Buddhism as a "great religion." Folks, Buddhism is straight from Hell!!! Buddha was a demonically inspired imposter. New Agers (and Baha'is) teach that there are many roads to "the light," and that no one has a right to criticize or refute someone's else's religious beliefs. Of course, they vehemently deny the Biblical proclamation that Jesus is the ONLY Way to heaven (John 14:6). Listen to Oprah Winfrey deny Jesus Christ for yourself. The Bible proclaims that we are ALL wicked, dirty-rotten sinners deserving of hell. Mankind is born with a SIN-NATURE. The ONLY Way for us to go to heaven is that we must have our sins forgiven. Religion didn't die on the cross for you. Krishna, Buddha, and other FALSE prophets didn't die upon the cross for you. Jesus Christ wasn't just a prophet, He was God Almighty in the flesh (1st Timothy 3:16 -1611 King James Bible).

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 11 Comments [2/3/2018 11:38:28 AM]
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Quote# 136398

(clip from linked video from 0:12 to 2:14)

Guest: That's why we have a President right now from New York. It's no coincidence. People, you can hate it, if you want, but you're going to go against certain things that God has chosen to--to put his hand on. And watch--

Roth: But how do you handle the things he did before he was a believer in Jesus?

Guest: I--I only report the message.

Roth: By the way, I hope you caught what I just said: the things he did before he was a believer in Jesus. Praise God for the blood; because of the blood of the Lamb, I don't have a past! How about you?

Guest: Well, then, a lot of the people in the Bible should be disqualified. I think the key thing is what is God's plan now. God's plan is, and I've been prophesying this for years, Sid, that God would make America great, that happens to be their saying(?), 2020 God's going to make America greater. Again. 2024 they're gonna say God has made America greatest again. This isn't going away.

New York City--the reason why--9/11, our nation was pierced, this nation's never been the same, the nations of the Earth have never been the same. God is trying to reestablish a blood right. It's no coincidence the President is from New York, that's where the towers fell. He also is part of Trump Tower, towers fell, he was part of world trade, World Trade Center, because God is revisiting this nation to establish a blood right. Whoever gets the blood right gets the legal right to rule.

Why do we have rights as Christians to bind and loose? Because of the blood right that Jesus provided. But Jesus' blood, it brought something, it brought glory, because after he was crucified and his blood was shed the Holy Spirit was poured out. This is more than just about who's President. It's about a blood right being established by God so that his glory can come.

The enemy was working real hard to get the blood right. That's why he wants to keep boarding children. That's why he wants to continue its agenda, so that it has the legal right to rule and to push the Church out. God is coming. Nobody is gonna remove his Church. Nobody's gonna stand against the Church that he is raising up.


Sid Roth and guest, YouTube 7 Comments [2/3/2018 11:38:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Daniel Pareja

Quote# 136397

I do not want my money to go to any type of charity. Is there a way I can make sure my money is not used to help people? This is such a turn off. Guess I'm gonna have to skip this title for something stupid like this.

MasqueradeKOR, Reddit - r/totalwar 11 Comments [2/3/2018 11:37:15 AM]
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Quote# 136285

Chechnya: Islamic State's fertile Russian recruiting ground

Of all the countries from which the Islamic State recruits its fighters, Russia tops the list. Most come from the republic of Chechnya, DW's Juri Rescheto reports.
Missing Chechen youths on a mobile phone display

The walls are high in this suburb of Grozny, the capital of Chechnya. Yet, residents keep no secrets. People know each other and help each other the way they have for generations. Nevertheless, there is one thing that neighbors don't like to talk about: missing youths.

No one knows exactly how many young people have left. Each one is one too many.

Petimat Salamova remained silent behind the walls of her home for four whole years after the disappearance of her daughter. Now she has broken her silence about Salina, who left home to follow her husband, Ruslan.

He went to Syria to fight for the "Islamic State" (IS). Salamova doesn't know why he left. "But he was a good boy," she said. "He always helped around the house. He was religious. I don't know what he was looking for in Syria. I think he was tricked. Those evil recruiters tricked him. It's their fault."

"He took my daughter and their three children," Salamova said. "I know that Ruslan isn't coming back because he was killed last March."

According to official numbers, up to 800 adult Chechens are fighting for the terror organization; the real total is likely much higher. Some of the youths who have left are listed as missing, but authorities don't even know that many of them are gone. That is what Said Mashaev told me. He returned and officials never even knew he had left.

Why do so many young Chechens join IS? The terror researcher Elena Suponina, of Moscow's Russian Institute for Strategic Studies, gave a number of reasons: "High unemployment, social dissatisfaction and unfulfilled hopes drive many in the region to one of the most perverse forms of Islam in existence — into the hands of jihadis."
Petimat Salamova and the clothes of her missing grandchildren

Salamova says her daughter and her husband took their children when they left

'A vacuum cleaner'

The Moscow-based independent military commentator Pavel Felgenhauer said a coordinated effort by Russian intelligence services ahead of the 2014 Sochi Olympics could have something to do with the exodus. He said security measures at the time forced "massive numbers of extremists out of the country, and they were sucked up by IS like a vacuum cleaner." But, he said, now that the group has lost almost all of its territory, "that vacuum cleaner is blowing in the other direction and threatens to spit out terrorists."

It seems that recruiters have an easy time enlisting fighters from Chechnya and neighboring republics in the Caucasus despite the fact that the state monitors citizens through the intelligence services — and despite the demonstrative loyalty that Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov has shown to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Chechnya, which was rebuilt with Russian cash after the bloody wars of the 1990s finally ended, has become a hotbed of religious fanaticism. The republic's leadership refuses to acknowledge that fact. Kadyrov even went so far as to claim that there are no Chechens fighting in Syria, saying the terrorists had simply forged Russian passports.

The former fighter Mashaev had a different take: "We Chechens are very popular in the IS. We have a lot of fighting experience."

Gadshiev said IS appreciates Chechens' fighting capabilities

800-member support group

Mashaev said he had no idea that he was joining a terrorist group. He claims that he wanted to defend the honor of Syrian Sunni Muslims in the name of Islam. Chechens are largely Sunni. Asked if he carried a weapon in Syria and if he killed anyone, the thin young man from Grozny said no. After a short pause, he added: "At least not that I know of."

He said he decided that he had to get out of Syria after being forced to watch as his comrades beheaded a group of Shiite men one morning. However, Mashaev wasn't able to escape for months. Following an injury that required medical attention, he was allowed to travel to Turkey. From there he fled to Grozny. At first, he was able to go undetected. But at some point authorities learned where he had been. He then turned himself in and spent eight months in prison.

Now Mashaev is sitting with the distraught mother Salamova in a small office in Grozny. This is where a support group for relatives of missing children, siblings and grandchildren meets. The group now has about 800 members: people from Chechnya, Dagestan, Russia and elsewhere. Here people can talk openly about their missing relatives.

Asked if she is angry at men who go to Syria and take people like her daughter and her now-dead son-in-law with them, Petimat Salamova said no: "Everything happens according to Allah's will."

For now, she cries and hopes that Allah will let her daughter live.

IS recruiters in Chechnya, Deutsche Welle 4 Comments [2/3/2018 7:09:22 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 136284

[lyrics to "Dying in Pain"]

Whores, with one sole desire
To beautify the flesh, and needing to be admired
Whores, with no self-respect
For them I feel nothing but utter contempt

Endless years of misery,
Remembering how things once used to be
Living in a world fraught with indignity

Dying in pain
In a world I've come to disdain
Honor extinct
In a world that's turning gay
Dying in pain
Faggots are all that remain
Leftist culture of no worth
I'm the last man on earth

Faggots, forcing acceptance of their ways
Dragging our culture through the gutter
Of moral decay
Men, so-called men
So shamelessly weak and fucking effeminate

Endless years of misery,
Remembering how things once used to be
Living in a world fraught with indignity

Women who have no fucking class
Empowered by men in the pursit of ass
Balless men, such a disgrace
I'd love to smash in their fucking face
You spineless fucks propping women up
Instead of telling cunts to shut the fuck up
Murderous whores, fascist voice
Murders veiled under the guise of choice

Skullduggery of boundless shame
Women whoring themselves in the pursuit of fame
Leftist world preaching tolerance
This leftist world ain't makin' much sense
Real men are now all but extinct
Faggots, pussies and shemale freaks
Feminist agenda: male castration
End of man by the hand of cunt liberation

The end, the end is coming near
Extinction of man, all that's left are queers
War! Culture war at hand
Liberal elite ensuring the fall of man

Endless years of diversity,
Seeing what this world has come to be
This is the decline of western society

Dying in pain
In a world I've come to disdain
Honor extinct
In a world that's turning gay
Dying in pain
Faggots are all that remain
Leftist culture of no worth
I'm the last man on earth

The Raunchous Brothers, The Metal Archives 19 Comments [2/3/2018 7:05:33 AM]
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Quote# 136274

I can't believe you're comparing child abuse to stealing a car. Or even to a murder. In terms of impact for the victim and family, of course being dead is worse than being raped. BUT in terms of what it takes to do that to another person, I can see a stupid kid, bad situation, drugs, guns, a momentary stupid decision, and someone's dead. But to molest a child they have to put in time to groom them, they have to look at that child's face and they have to then proceed to do sexual things, with a child. Same goes for rapists of adults and torturers.

I could never, ever be friends with a child molester, but someone who'd killed someone during an armed robbery and fully repented and was trying to make amends to the world, yes, I could be firends with them.

I am NOT comparing anything to anything:

Point IS: A CRIME IS A CRIME IS A CRIME....Ask ANY VICTIM of one.

Alienation is the quickest way to get them to re-offend. You want TWO {or more} victims instead of just one? Then Go ahead, alienate them.

NOT all put in your "time to groom them". SOme just do it anyway. On the spur of the moment. In haste.

And the robbery? planned {or groomed} just as well, not exactly a "momentary stupid decision, and someone's dead" as you put it: as the place was cased, time when least busy ascertained, when assumably most money to be in the drawer, and how the perp, once caught, bragged about "the hit". He NEVER "fully repented', as you put it. And murderers apparently are "highly regarded in prison" according to the "lock up" shows I've seen on TV...and often released into society without therapy and lessons on why their crime was bad.

Once time is served, and they are released, and been taught how it was wrong, then they can be on the road to better deeds...

~Ask the person whose car was stolen and wrecked by my friend, how he felt about "being violated" as it was stolen from the "safety of his own driveway" where he tought it/he was safe? {my firend was just "stupid", and he knows it}

~Ask the whole family whose member is now gone shot in the robbery how "violated we feel" for the fact she went to work and never came home and we had to plan a sudden tragic funeral.

~I was "home invaded" once, {meaning people at home when the robbery occurs, and in my case, held on the floor at knife point while others carted off my valuables} by a neighbor and some of his "friends"...You don't think I don't feel violated??? In the supposed "safety of my own home"? In the evening by someone I "knew" and thought I could "trust"???? I Could ALSO have been killed or seriously injured. He's been released by now, but I don't live in that state anymore.

SAME SAME for a vicitm of any crime! Violated is violated.

But the perps can be re-taught and offered to be a "changed" person.

I said IF they had: served their time, did their therapy, and learned their lesson {and granted some don't, but some DO}, AND hadn't committed any more in say 10-20 years, then yeah, I could be friends with them. I didn't say I wouldn't necessarily fully trust them with my kids alone necessarily. But I also don't trust I won't get robber again, either.

We release murderers after 20-25 years, how about other criminals? Of any type?

EVERYbody deserves the second chances we offer to parolees and to those who have served their time...regardless of the crime...as a crime is a crime is a crime.

I can forgive the home invaders, the robber, and my friend, why not others?

Its a "big man" or "big person" to forgive...but no one will forget...



galaxyhi, city-data 7 Comments [2/3/2018 7:04:18 AM]
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Quote# 136394

Feminism, witchcraft, lesbianism, homosexuality, New Age philosophies, and abortion--have ALL infested America at the SAME TIME (over the past 40 years)! Don't you think that is kind of odd? The reason is simple--sin and evil are a package deal. When a nation rebels against God by allowing something as hideous as rock-n-roll music (which is rooted in Satanism), then every sin imaginable follows. It was no coincidence that Anton LaVey founded the Church of Satan in 1966. It was at the same time that prayer and Bible reading were removed from the public school system.

It was at the same time that feminism reared it's ugly head. Hundreds of rock-n-roll bands were formed, many originating from the Church of Satan. Marilyn Manson is even a high priest of the Church of Satan. Aleister Crowley (a known sexual degenerate, God-hater, and occultist) has been praised as a hero by several rock-n-rolls legends, including the Beatles who include Crowley's photo on their Sgt. Peppers album cover.

In 1966, the Beach Boys released "Pet Sounds" which features the band members feeding goats (representative of Satan in witchcraft and Satanism). Then there's Paul McCartney's 1971 album, RAM, which features Paul fondling a Ram on the album cover (very creepy to anyone who understands that the ram is also representative of Satan in witchcraft and Satanism). Here's a quote from Mr. Beach Boy himself...

"We were doing witchcraft, trying to make witchcraft music."
SOURCE: Brian Wilson quoted in Nick Kent's The Dark Stuff (pg.27.)

Patricia Kennealy of The Doors was a professed Wiccan witch! Even bands such as Earth, Wind, and Fire and the Allen Parson's Project were clearly Satanic, promoting the occult. One of the top songs of the 70's was "Hotel California" by the Eagles. Most people have no idea the song refers to the Church of Satan, which happens to be located in a converted HOTEL on CALIFORNIA street! On the inside of the album cover, looking down on the festivities, is Anton LaVey, the founder of the Church of Satan and author of the Satanic Bible!

People say, the Eagles aren't serious, they're just selling records. That's what you think! The Eagles manager, Larry Salter, admitted in the Waco Tribune-Herald, (Feb. 28, 1982) that the Eagles were involved with the Church of Satan! Not surprisingly, one of the Eagle's songs is titled "Have A Good Day in Hell."

It's not pop culture; it's pop occulture! I could go on and on about the Satanic roots of rock music; and not just rock... Dolly Parton recently sang and re-popularized one of the most notorious Satanic songs ever written (Stairway to Heaven) by one of the most notorious Satanic bands ever, Led Zeppelin. Even Johnny Cash sold out to Satan. The spiritually alert believer recognizes that Satan is being promoted.

Now you're probably wondering what all this talk about rock-n-roll has to do with abortion; in a word... EVERYTHING! Few people realize the occult influences and philosophies inherent with the rock-n-roll culture. America's citizens don't realize just how much the Devil's music has CHANGED America for the worse, MUCH worse.

The famous artists themselves are ALL rebellious, sin-loving, God-haters. A quick look at a few artists proves my point. Elton John is a homosexual. The American people have grown up listening to the vile music of a homosexual. You hear his music in stores, in most places of work, in restaurants, etc. This is extremely deceiving because many people associate his pretty music with his lifestyle. They reason that since Elton John sings good music, then homosexuality must not be so bad; BUT, God says that homosexuality is a horrible sin (Romans 1:25-32).

I am not trying to be unkind, I am just stating a FACT... Rock-n-roll is a religion of Satanism, the occult, witchcraft, immoral sex, feminism, rebellion against authority, drug abuse, alcoholism, and ABORTION! What the iron fist of Communism couldn't achieve, the subtle self-destroying effects of Rock 'N' Roll music is accomplishing. Our society is being moral subverted deliberately, training teenagers to fornicate instead of courtship and marriage. The rich power elite want to create a society where parents are mere incubators producing loyal servants of the Communist State.

I realize that there are many other contributing factors such as television, the godless public school system, cable TV, liberal theologians, planned parenthood (Murderhood), corrupt Bibles, the evil Federal Reserve bankers, a lying news media, dead churches, corruption in government, etc, etc, etc.; BUT, the Devil's music has been the catalyst which has allowed all these things to thrive and fester.

The music itself is demonic and influences it's listener's for Satan. Abortion didn't just happen one day, it began as a result of a generation of youth who became DESENSITIZED towards sin because of various Godless influences, mainly rock-n-roll. It is not mere coincidence that abortion has flourished in a nation which praises the godless rock star idols of rock-n-roll. The entire message of rock-n-roll is sexual liberation, fornication, and immorality.

From Lorelei ("Lorelei let's live together") by Styx, to Twist and Shout ("shake it up baby") by the Beatles... Rock 'N' Roll promotes sexual sins. The natural result is UNWANTED pregnancies and abortion! You cannot have a sexually promiscuous society that shakes it's fist in the face of God (by breaking God's moral laws), and then expect God's blessings! Abortion is the direct result of a sin-loving people with few morals. This is the sum of Rock 'n' Roll.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 20 Comments [2/2/2018 2:50:36 PM]
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Quote# 136392

I Want a Civil War

I've had enough of women taking advantage of men. I've had enough of men taking advantage of women. I'm tired of people being passed around like table salt and then wondering why they're lost. I'm tired of broken homes and confusion. I'm tired of everything being a giant harem. I'm tired of sex meaning nothing. I'm tired of "relationships" meaning nothing. I'm tired of false rape claims. I'm tired of sexual predators. I'm tired of the media pushing cuckoldry. I'm tired of white knights defending the utmost degeneracy.

It needs to stop NOW. I want a war, and I'm not kidding. Not senseless shootings, an all out war. Our society is gone.

ItheIthe, incels.me 20 Comments [2/2/2018 11:39:57 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136391

All the shitty advice normies give actually works, but not for us, so we are too ugly to even got considered in personality or style.

Looksmaxing can promote a high tier normie to chad status, but we cant go from incel to low tier normie, inceldom is a curse an it cannot be removed

Also 80/20 is bullshit, thinking that only chad fuck girls i massive cope

RealestFakecel, incels.me 9 Comments [2/2/2018 11:39:31 AM]
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Quote# 136386

Legislative Alchemy 2017: Acupuncture
Acupuncture is nothing more than a theatrical placebo. Yet acupuncturists, defined as primary care practitioners in some states, are succeeding in licensing and practice expansion efforts in state legislatures.

Acupuncture is a theatrical placebo. Its proposed mechanism of action is highly implausible and:

after decades of research and more than 3000 trials, acupuncture researchers have failed to reject the null hypothesis, and any remaining possible specific effect from acupuncture is so tiny as to be clinically insignificant.

In layman’s terms, acupuncture does not work – for anything.

Even the very CAM-friendly National Center for Complementary and Integrative Health (NCCIH), in its own weasel-worded way, comes close to conceding the point:

Research suggests that acupuncture can help manage certain pain conditions, but evidence about its value for other health conditions is uncertain. [Emphasis added.]

Somebody tell the state legislatures. Via the magic of Legislative Alchemy, 47 states have legalized the practice of acupuncture along with, in some cases, Traditional Chinese, Oriental or East Asian medicine. In several states, acupuncture practice acts describe acupuncturists as primary care practitioners and/or give them the authority diagnose and treat any condition or disease. For example, in my state, Florida, the practice act says that acupuncture:

means a form of primary health care, based on traditional Chinese medical concepts and modern oriental medical techniques, that employs acupuncture diagnosis and treatment, as well as adjunctive therapies and diagnostic techniques, for the promotion, maintenance, and restoration of health and the prevention of disease. [Emphasis added.]

In Nevada,

“Acupuncture” means the insertion of needles into the human body by piercing the skin of the body to control and regulate the flow and balance of energy in the body and to cure, relieve or palliate:

(a) Any ailment or disease of the mind or body; or

(b) Any wound, bodily injury or deformity. [Emphasis added.]

And in New Mexico:

“doctor of oriental medicine” means a person licensed as a physician to practice acupuncture and oriental medicine with the ability to practice independently, serve as a primary care provider and as necessary collaborate with other health care providers . . .

“oriental medicine” means the distinct system of primary health care that uses all allied techniques of oriental medicine, both traditional and modern, to diagnose, treat and prescribe for the prevention, cure or correction of disease, illness, injury, pain or other physical or mental condition by controlling and regulating the flow and balance of energy, form and function to restore and maintain health. [Emphasis added.]

As with state chiropractic and naturopathic licensing, most states rely on a closed-loop system of education and examinations that is completely controlled by acupuncturists in determining who is qualified to become licensed. The National Certification Commission for Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine (NCCAOM) administers the certification exams recognized by the states. Applicants for certification must have either graduated from schools accredited by the Accreditation Commission for Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine (ACAOM) or foreign schools meeting criteria set by the NCCAOM.

While the ACAOM is approved as an accrediting agency by the U.S. Department of Education, the Department does not review the scientific validity of what is taught or perform any independent analysis of the graduates’ ability to competently and safely practice. Its focus is on administrative matters and the financial stability of the schools. The ACAOM standards do not require a college degree for admission to an accredited acupuncture/Oriental Medicine school and only 500 hours of supervised patient care are required in accredited programs to graduate with a Master’s in acupuncture (700 hours for a Master’s in Oriental Medicine). A Master’s allows one to sit for the NCCAOM exam. In sum, someone with no college degree and 500 hours of clinical training can become a “primary care provider” in some states.

2017 bills

Today we look at bills filed in eleven states to license, or expand the practice of, acupuncturists during the 2017 state legislative sessions. Six were successful. Two bills were defeated; three remain pending.

Prior to last year, acupuncturists did not have a practice act in Wyoming. This year they succeeded in gaining one, although the Wyoming legislature stopped short of giving them the right to practice Oriental Medicine, which was eliminated in the final bill. Acupuncture is somewhat narrowly defined as inserting needles, with or without electric current or heat, into the body for:

therapeutic purpose of promoting, maintaining and restoring health, including [but, we note, not limited to] the treatment of dysfunctions of the body involving pain.

Wyoming also joins several states who’ve been bamboozled into thinking sticking needles into peoples’ ears, otherwise known as “auricular acupuncture,” is effective for substance abuse and mental health issues. Promoted based on an unpublished and cherry-picked review of the evidence by an organization called the National Acupuncture Detoxification Association (NADA), it is a perennial favorite with state legislatures looking to address mental health issues and drug abuse on the cheap.

New Hampshire enacted legislation creating something called a “Certified Acupuncture Detoxification Specialist,” who must be trained in the NADA protocol and supervised by an acupuncturist, although the “Specialist” needn’t be an acupuncturist himself. They can use “acu-detox” for:

behavioral health applications, including addictions, mental health, and disaster and emotional trauma.

One version of the bill specified that “acu-detox” could be used only in conjunction with other therapies but that bit of consumer protection against the ineffectiveness of pseudoscience in treating serious conditions was rejected.

Likewise, in Maine, a new law requires the state Department of Health and Human Services to develop a pilot project that will treat alcohol and substance abuse using the unproven NADA protocol. Fortunately, more sober minds prevailed in West Virginia, where a bill allowing the practice of NADA auricular acupuncture for chemical dependency failed.

Like their fellow CAM practitioners, naturopaths and chiropractors, once licensed, acupuncturists will return again and again to the state legislatures for practice expansion. In 2017, they succeeded in a big way in Illinois. There the legislature added the practice of “East Asian” medicine to the acupuncturists’ scope of practice, defined to include needle acupuncture, moxibustion, herbal medicine, and dietary supplements, among others, to:

normalize physiological functions, or for the treatment of diseases or dysfunctions of the body.

Acupuncture itself is broadly defined to include not only traditional needle acupuncture, but also far-infrared, electro- and magnetic stimulation, cold laser, cupping, dry needling (discussed below), and the bruising massage practice known as gua sha:

In a move reminiscent of the chiropractic lobby’s efforts to make chiropractic schools the arbiter of what chiropractors can and cannot do, Illinois practitioners of acupuncture and East Asian medicine are permitted to perform a differential diagnosis via principles and techniques taught in acupuncture schools, like the fanciful tongue and pulse diagnosis.

Acupuncture advocates, Science-Based Medicine 8 Comments [2/2/2018 11:27:35 AM]
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Quote# 136385

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Is transgenderism a state-sponsored religion?"

(Cut and pasted from Lifesite news, link here: https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/is-transgenderism-a-state-sponsored-cultish-religion)

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified. Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

Lady Checkmate:
Praying for all struggling with sin.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 9 Comments [2/2/2018 11:19:12 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 136381

Johann Hari: ‘I was afraid to dismantle the story about depression and anxiety’
In 2011, the writer and author was the subject of accusations of plagiarism that led to the end of his career as a newspaper columnist. His new book, Lost Connections, explores the problems with our understanding of mental health

Johann Hari is a writer and author of several books, and a former columnist for the Independent. His latest book, Lost Connections, explores the causes and cures of depression and anxiety. It argues that the notion of inherent depression has been overstated, and that environmental factors are too often neglected. In 2011, he was the subject of accusations of plagiarism that led to the end of his career as a newspaper columnist.

(Submitter's note: Q&A, with the questions bold)

You started work on the book, you say, because you were puzzled by several mysteries. But did you have an idea of what conclusions you would come to?
I think most of the things that are in the book I had inklings about. For many years I had wanted to find out what causes depression and anxiety and how to really solve them. However, I was afraid that if I dismantled the story that I had about depression and anxiety – even though that story hadn’t worked well for me – I would have no story at all, and it would feel really chaotic, and I would feel really vulnerable. For the 13 years during which I was taking antidepressants, despite some doubts, I did believe in the theory that saw chemicals as the main approach.

As well as taking antidepressants, you’ve seen a therapist for 14 years. How effective has that been?
There are three kinds of causes of depression and they interact. There’s the biological causes, which are real, and can make you more vulnerable to depression, but don’t cause it on their own. There’s environmental causes, which are about how we live together socially. And then there are psychological causes, which are about how we think about the world. Clearly, therapy speaks most to the psychological causes, which are very real. Therapy helped me to think about that aspect of it.

Do you think that therapy has worked for you?
I experienced some quite extreme acts of violence when I was a child, from an adult in my life, when my mother was very ill and my father was in another country. I felt a significant fall in depression once I was eventually able to talk about those experiences with my therapist. Given that we have the evidence that therapy does indeed help with the specific area of the psychological causes of depression, I think it’s fair to assume that, when therapy is done well, it can also help with other forms of depression.

Why do you think it is that doctors hand out so many antidepressants when the wealth of evidence as you present in your book suggests they are largely ineffective?
I wouldn’t want to overstate their ineffectiveness. Between 65 and 80% of people taking antidepressants become depressed again within a year. However, that’s not 100%. Of course some people would have recovered anyway through natural processes. I’m not critical of doctors for this. Part of the problem is that we’ve put the onus for solving these problems on to people who are not in a position to solve them alone. Telling people, as I was told by my doctor, that depression is caused by a problem in your brain is, firstly, untrue and it is also really problematic because it cuts people off from finding the real causes of their depression and anxiety. We’ve been telling ourselves this chemical story for 35 years and every year depression and anxiety gets worse.

Why are depression and anxiety issues on the increase?
The umbrella answer is that human beings have innate psychological needs just as we have physical needs. We need to feel we belong, that we have meaning and purpose, that people value us and that we have autonomy. We also live in a culture that’s not meeting those psychological needs for most people. It does not manifest as full-blown depression and anxiety in most people; for some people it’s just a feeling of unhappiness and a life less fulfilling than it could have been. We’ve built a society that has many great aspects, but it is not a good match for our human nature.

In the book you mention a crisis in your life that was “unequivocally terrible”. Was that when you lost your job at the Independent in 2011 and returned your Orwell prize, after being accused of plagiarism?
Yes, it was that, in combination with someone I love very much having a bad addiction crisis. Just to outline events, because some people won’t know, I did two things that were completely wrong. One is that when I interviewed people I often presented things that had been said to other journalists or had been written in books as if they had been said to me, which was not truthful. The second is that I edited Wikipedia entries regarding other people under a pseudonym and, sometimes, in very nasty ways.

Most people who go through your experience tend to flee from public view. You’ve come back and had success. Has that been a difficult process?
When you fuck up and do several things completely wrong, as I did, it should really hurt. And you should pay a really big price. It did hurt and I did pay a really big price, as is entirely right. The reason I’m reluctant now to go into how that felt for me is because that’s saying to people “see it from my point of view”. However, I don’t think that they should see it from my point of view. I think they should see it from the point of view of those people who were harmed by me: my readers, the people I was nasty about and the people at the Independent that I let down.

Have you apologised to the people who were affected by your Wikipedia tampering?
Yes, I wrote to two of the individuals involved, and I’d rather keep private what was said.

Has what you’ve learned by writing this book helped to alleviate your depression? Are you, for want of a better phrase, a happier person?
Massively, but I want to just caveat that. What this book is not is a simplistic guide saying: “Hey, I did these things, and now you can do them too.” I think that would be quite cruel because I was in this incredibly privileged position. I had money from my previous book, which meant that I could change my life in quite radical ways in order to strip out some of the causes of my depression. Lots of people are not in a position to do that.

A big part of the argument of the book is to say that we need to change our culture so that more of us are free to do the things that I was very fortunate to be able to do. In my own life I’ve been able to devote much less time to seeking status and external achievement and much more to engaging with what I think really matters, the people I love and the causes that I think are important. Before, when I started to feel bad, I would have done something for myself. Now, I can see it’s better to cheer someone else up. That’s had a radical effect on my mental health.

Johann Hari, The Guardian 6 Comments [2/2/2018 7:12:06 AM]
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Quote# 136380

Is everything you think you know about depression wrong?
In this extract from his new book, Johann Hari, who took antidepressants for 13 years, calls for a new approach

In the 1970s, a truth was accidentally discovered about depression – one that was quickly swept aside, because its implications were too inconvenient, and too explosive. American psychiatrists had produced a book that would lay out, in detail, all the symptoms of different mental illnesses, so they could be identified and treated in the same way across the United States. It was called the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual. In the latest edition, they laid out nine symptoms that a patient has to show to be diagnosed with depression – like, for example, decreased interest in pleasure or persistent low mood. For a doctor to conclude you were depressed, you had to show five of these symptoms over several weeks.

The manual was sent out to doctors across the US and they began to use it to diagnose people. However, after a while they came back to the authors and pointed out something that was bothering them. If they followed this guide, they had to diagnose every grieving person who came to them as depressed and start giving them medical treatment. If you lose someone, it turns out that these symptoms will come to you automatically. So, the doctors wanted to know, are we supposed to start drugging all the bereaved people in America?

The authors conferred, and they decided that there would be a special clause added to the list of symptoms of depression. None of this applies, they said, if you have lost somebody you love in the past year. In that situation, all these symptoms are natural, and not a disorder. It was called “the grief exception”, and it seemed to resolve the problem.

Then, as the years and decades passed, doctors on the frontline started to come back with another question. All over the world, they were being encouraged to tell patients that depression is, in fact, just the result of a spontaneous chemical imbalance in your brain – it is produced by low serotonin, or a natural lack of some other chemical. It’s not caused by your life – it’s caused by your broken brain. Some of the doctors began to ask how this fitted with the grief exception. If you agree that the symptoms of depression are a logical and understandable response to one set of life circumstances – losing a loved one – might they not be an understandable response to other situations? What about if you lose your job? What if you are stuck in a job that you hate for the next 40 years? What about if you are alone and friendless?

"Drug companies would fund huge numbers of studies and then only release the ones that showed success"

The grief exception seemed to have blasted a hole in the claim that the causes of depression are sealed away in your skull. It suggested that there are causes out here, in the world, and they needed to be investigated and solved there. This was a debate that mainstream psychiatry (with some exceptions) did not want to have. So, they responded in a simple way – by whittling away the grief exception. With each new edition of the manual they reduced the period of grief that you were allowed before being labelled mentally ill – down to a few months and then, finally, to nothing at all. Now, if your baby dies at 10am, your doctor can diagnose you with a mental illness at 10.01am and start drugging you straight away.

Dr Joanne Cacciatore, of Arizona State University, became a leading expert on the grief exception after her own baby, Cheyenne, died during childbirth. She had seen many grieving people being told that they were mentally ill for showing distress. She told me this debate reveals a key problem with how we talk about depression, anxiety and other forms of suffering: we don’t, she said, “consider context”. We act like human distress can be assessed solely on a checklist that can be separated out from our lives, and labelled as brain diseases. If we started to take people’s actual lives into account when we treat depression and anxiety, Joanne explained, it would require “an entire system overhaul”. She told me that when “you have a person with extreme human distress, [we need to] stop treating the symptoms. The symptoms are a messenger of a deeper problem. Let’s get to the deeper problem.”

[...]

With each of the nine causes of depression and anxiety I learned about, I kept being taught startling facts and arguments like this that forced me to think differently. Professor John Cacioppo of Chicago University taught me that being acutely lonely is as stressful as being punched in the face by a stranger – and massively increases your risk of depression. Dr Vincent Felitti in San Diego showed me that surviving severe childhood trauma makes you 3,100% more likely to attempt suicide as an adult. Professor Michael Chandler in Vancouver explained to me that if a community feels it has no control over the big decisions affecting it, the suicide rate will shoot up.

This new evidence forces us to seek out a very different kind of solution to our despair crisis. One person in particular helped me to unlock how to think about this. In the early days of the 21st century, a South African psychiatrist named Derek Summerfeld went to Cambodia, at a time when antidepressants were first being introduced there. He began to explain the concept to the doctors he met. They listened patiently and then told him they didn’t need these new antidepressants, because they already had anti-depressants that work. He assumed they were talking about some kind of herbal remedy.

He asked them to explain, and they told him about a rice farmer they knew whose left leg was blown off by a landmine. He was fitted with a new limb, but he felt constantly anxious about the future, and was filled with despair. The doctors sat with him, and talked through his troubles. They realised that even with his new artificial limb, his old job—working in the rice paddies—was leaving him constantly stressed and in physical pain, and that was making him want to just stop living. So they had an idea. They believed that if he became a dairy farmer, he could live differently. So they bought him a cow. In the months and years that followed, his life changed. His depression—which had been profound—went away. “You see, doctor,” they told him, the cow was an “antidepressant”.

To them, finding an antidepressant didn’t mean finding a way to change your brain chemistry. It meant finding a way to solve the problem that was causing the depression in the first place. We can do the same. Some of these solutions are things we can do as individuals, in our private lives. Some require bigger social shifts, which we can only achieve together, as citizens. But all of them require us to change our understanding of what depression and anxiety really are.

This is radical, but it is not, I discovered, a maverick position. In its official statement for World Health Day in 2017, the United Nations reviewed the best evidence and concluded that “the dominant biomedical narrative of depression” is based on “biased and selective use of research outcomes” that “must be abandoned”. We need to move from “focusing on ‘chemical imbalances’”, they said, to focusing more on “power imbalances”.

After I learned all this, and what it means for us all, I started to long for the power to go back in time and speak to my teenage self on the day he was told a story about his depression that was going to send him off in the wrong direction for so many years. I wanted to tell him: “This pain you are feeling is not a pathology. It’s not crazy. It is a signal that your natural psychological needs are not being met. It is a form of grief – for yourself, and for the culture you live in going so wrong. I know how much it hurts. I know how deeply it cuts you. But you need to listen to this signal. We all need to listen to the people around us sending out this signal. It is telling you what is going wrong. It is telling you that you need to be connected in so many deep and stirring ways that you aren’t yet – but you can be, one day.”

If you are depressed and anxious, you are not a machine with malfunctioning parts. You are a human being with unmet needs. The only real way out of our epidemic of despair is for all of us, together, to begin to meet those human needs – for deep connection, to the things that really matter in life.

(Summitter's note: Rebuttal by Steven Novella)

Johann Hari , The Guardian 5 Comments [2/2/2018 7:10:37 AM]
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Amos Moses:
if they are trannies ..... then they were BORN THAT WAY according to you ...... and if they are homosexual or lesbians ..... THEY WERE BORN THAT WAY according to you ..... and they CANNOT CHANGE according to you ...... so the same STANDARD YOU APPLY ..... applies to PEDOPHILES ........... and it is only YOUR OPINION it is abuse ...... its pretty basic .........

Enniscorthy:
It saddens me greatly that you are advocating for the systemic sexual abuse of children. I thought you were a Christian. I will always fight to protect a child from a sexual abuser. A child's rights far outweigh another person's desire for sexual abuse.

Amos Moses:
No, no, no, no, no ........ YOU have set a STANDARD that LOGICALLY includes PEDOPHILES ...... YOUR STANDARD ...... and i am trying to get you to see YOUR ERROR .........

Enniscorthy:
Well, I am sitting here saying that under no circumstance would I allow an adult to sexually abuse a child, and you're screaming at me that yes I would. Clearly you don't know what my standard is when you keep telling me the very opposite of what I'm stating. I don't know why you elect to ignore that a child is not party to what the adult does to him or her and that it's somehow okay just because we don't want to be politically correct. In fact, NO ONE feels that way, so you're not just misrepresenting me but practically everyone else out there. No one cares what a pedophile's attractions are. A child must be protected. And no one argues that because it's pretty clear and obvious.
This is why we don't compare homosexuality to pedophilia. If two grown adults are attracted, there's no reason to tell them what they are doing is wrong. Not a single one. But pedophilia is an act of abuse on a child who cannot consent. I'm surprised you have to have this explained to you.

Amos Moses:
but if homosexuals are BORN THAT WAY and it is INNATE ..... and TRANNIES are also BORN THAT WAY and it is INNATE ...... then the same STANDARD YOU SET APPLIES to PEDOPHILES ......... or WHY NOT ...............

Enniscorthy:
This is too, too delicious for words. You accused me of a strawman recently without knowing what it really means. Now I'm going to tell you something: YOU are guilty of a strawman argument.
You keep sitting here telling me that I'm a hypocrite to be OK with homsexuality but not pedophilia when both are innate. The reason that's a strawman is THAT IS NOT WHAT I SAID, and certainly not what I ever meant either.
If somebody's actions, no matter how innate they are, cause a child to be physically and emotionally damaged because of an act of non-consensual abuse, they I will stand against them. That's always been my "standard", not the one you keep INSISTING is my standard and I never never once claimed. "Innate" is NOT my argument, it's the one you keep TELLING me is my argument. And "born that way", which again I never said and don't even particularly believe.
So the reason I'm OK with homosexuality but not pedophilia is because in one situation an innocent party is abused, and in the other, no one is abused. It is consensual. THAT is my argument, informed consent, not whether it's INNATE.

Amos Moses:
NOPE .... it is applying the STANDARD you have set for SEXUALITY ...... and if it changes or not ...... and how DARE YOU tell a PEDOPHILE he or she has to go through a "sexless life" ............ to not have sex with a person he or she loves ..... who do you think you are ...... /sarc off ....... and there is a DIFFERENCE between a strawman argument and SARCASM to ridicule your position ............

Enniscorthy:
Here you are again, telling me the "standard I have set for sexuality." If it's my so-called "standard", why don't you tell me where or when I ever said it? Once again, reading what you've written here, it sounds very much like you're putting the rights of a pedophile over the child they choose to abuse. Are you doing this to make fun of my position, because once again, that ISN'T my position. I say protect the child at all costs and have always said that. The pedophile's attractions (not love, as you said) are irrelevant if a child gets hurt. Whether strawman or sarcasm (and you've used both), you are deliberately misrepresenting my standards, and my position and my beliefs.



Amos Moses, Christian News Network 15 Comments [2/2/2018 3:17:42 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 136375

This is just ridiculous :D



(folderol)
Want to laugh even harder? Go to any university website and have a look at the current research projects these gender studies PhD's are doing.

The Effects of 80's Punk Rock on Latino Women in Peru Ages 25 - 50 is an example. At my local uni. it's mostly studies about women in rock music. I can't think of any gender that has affected rock music less than women. Because oppression!! No because men are better at it. Both genders have their strengths, one of men's is music. Just a fact of life and there should be no shame in that.

(Channel_Dedede)
When the people studying "biology" don't understand the basics of biology...

(cherrybombstation)
That stupid commie bitch professor Melissa Click of the University of Missouri (you remember, the "I need some muscle over here!" bitch,) did her PhD dissertation on 50 Shades of Gray. She also wrote about Twitter and Twilight's affects on millennial women's sexuality.

Missouri had the number one journalism school in the country at one point. Number one. And they were hiring social justice bitches like her to teach the next wave. Seriously, look at some of the goddamn utter drivel she has had published.

“Twitards and Tyler’s Van: Anti-fans, Twilight, and textuality.”
“Fifty Shades of postfeminism: Contextualizing readers’ reflections on the erotic romance series. In E. Levine (ed.) Feeling Feminine: Popular Culture for Women in the Early 21st Century.”
“It’s ‘a good thing’: The commodification of femininity, affluence and whiteness in the Martha Stewart phenomenon.”
Academia is a fucking tragedy now. So glad I got out

(loopymcgee)
omg, lol I work with a girl who has her Ph.D. in Feminist Studies (gag) I almost cant stand being around her. This is one degree I wouldnt want the debt from... oh, she also has a transgender daughter (born a son) who is SIX and gets embarrassed talking about how babies are made..

(need_fork_split_3)
She has a son that she abuses.

(1youlove)
That is not a coincidence that she has this degree and has a "trans" six year old. She did this to him. I would call CPS if I were you.

(FindtheOwl)
I'm aware this is a meme, however... this reminds me that the far left are sociopaths. They really don't value human life. Posturing and virtue signaling is what they are all about.

They are so conceited and self-centered they have lost the ability to 1) empathize with other humans that don't share their perspective identically, 2) admit they are wrong about anything ever, 3) be saved or salvaged

various commenters, r/The_Donald 16 Comments [2/2/2018 3:08:45 AM]
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Quote# 136314

Imperialist lies and fairytales.

Radio Free Asia , which as every school student knows is a CIA fake news propaganda station , and a number of imperialist and mainstream media outlets have carried a story saying that the DPRK is "running out of money ". This is basically the old 'collapse of the DPRK ' fable recycled and served up as today's fake news. Back in the 1990s the imperialists used to say that the DPRK would collapse in 3 days, or 3 months or 3 years.

I can even remember looking at a copy of Newsweek magazine in September 1991 in W H Smiths , it claimed that the DPRK would not have enough food and fuel to last it the winter ! ,. Needless to say that the DPRK did not get its food and fuel from the USSR and Eastern Europe but was self-sufficient .26 years later the DPRK is still here. Similarly 1996 the imperialist spread the rumour that the DPRK would collapse in the spring , some so-called friends of the DPRK in the UK believed this , we did not ! 20 years the DPRK is still here and prospering !

The DPRK has a self-reliant economy , it has a planned economy and a balanced and controlled budget . There can be no such thing as "running out of money " or "collapse ". The DPRK will smash the imperialist sanctions with Juche and self-reliance !

UK Korean Friendship Association, Korean Friendship Association 8 Comments [2/1/2018 5:43:12 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136313

The Judeo-Christian ethic, among other things, teaches and encourages self control and discipline. ESPECIALLY sexual self control and discipline.

Homosexualiy is not about sexual self control. It could not be more opposite. It is about accepting and CELEBRATING lack of sexual self discipline.

How is that possibly compatible with Christianity?

Ciaphas Cain, Free Republic 17 Comments [2/1/2018 5:43:07 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136364

The entire nature of the bullshit white men are taught today makes them inadequate, as it goes against female nature.
Does consent exist in nature?
No.
So who thinks about consent?
Losers think about consent.
Can women be fully lesbian?
No, they can't.
So why do some women turn fully lesbian?
Because they're disgusted by men.
Does contraception exist in nature?
No.
So who uses contraception?
Losers use contraception.
Are dates a good way to get modern Western women?
No, dates are a horrible way to get modern Western women, since these women don't want to be treated civilly or be talked to.
So who goes on dates?
Losers go on dates.
Who washes their ass?
Entitled, boring straight white guys wash their ass.
You never see blacks, Muslims or such groups do any of this. Yet nobody's accusing them of anything.
Men who are not inadequate do what they want with women and colonize them with pregnancies. Yet the society teaches men not to do that.

Inadequacy comes from applying the standards that go against human nature.

Why do so many men have problems with women?

Because women hate men. And for good reason.

Men who aren't to be hated have no notion of nonsense like consent, contraception or female's will.

caamib, FSTDT comments 48 Comments [2/1/2018 1:47:54 AM]
Fundie Index: 17
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 136363


"If we incorporate caamib's idea that having sex with prostitutes would not be considered premarital sex nor would it be impeded by a ban on women working... then wouldn't all women just become prostitutes?

Follow my train of thought for a moment: Cat's Paw's proposals make marriage unpleasant for women. "

Yeah, I was amazed by your conclusion that women would just want to become prostitutes and decided to gave you a chance. I tried to follow your thought further but stopped reading when I got to the part where you claim his ideas make marriage uncomfortable.

Somebody who'd say that has no idea how women work. Women just go for what's the current norm in society and feel comfortable when they do that.

Sucking frat cock and being worthless scum isn't the natural state of women, nor is it being good wives and mothers. Women just adjust to what's popular in society.

"Two: Semantics nothing, these are the very definitions of words. Why not just admit you don't think shit through instead of going into a series of increasingly ridiculous excuses that always ends up with you making a claim so impossibly absurd that you never live it down. "

I am still waiting for you to make an argument. So far your only argument is "but prostitutes are also workers and therefore all of your arguments are baaaad!". Ok, I'll give you a chance...


"Three: Even if you got your heads out of the alternate dimensions you've got tucked away in your assholes where the world works based on some alien logic hostile to the reality the rest of us humans here on Earth are used to and tried to set this bullshit up in a manner that somehow technically works despite the contradictions and mutually exclusive initiatives how the hell would you even enforce something so laughably convoluted and easily exploited for purposes contrary to your insane intentions? "

1. How is it convoluted and whatever you say?

2. How it would be enforced? The same way all sane cultures, from Ancient Athens/Rome to early America did. It's pretty easy once people wake up.

"The abolition of privacy laws alone"

Some things I wanted to point out regarding cat paw's suggestions are that some of these would actually be redundant.

If you do the essential things like ban women from voting and working and make adultery and pre-marital sex illegal you would no longer have any need for slut shaming or things like that. Women would just accept a sane culture.

So I am not sure what cat meant by "abolish privacy laws", probably not all of them, but it would ultimately be irrelevant. See my post to the person above.

As for my "doxxers", lololololol. What cat's paw didn't mention in that post is that in a sane culture there would likely be none of those tactics on the Internet at all. It would be a civil society since seducers would be destroyed.

[...]


And regarding the comment on what women feel as uncomfortable, do you think women naturally want to be raped by niggers, have bullets in them and want to be impregnated by animals who will never take care of the kids?

Of course not.

But, at the same time, no more do they want to be good mothers and wives who will marry chaste and be decent wives.

Women are what you make of them in a society created by men.

If a society created by men is bad women will be bad. If a society created by men is good women will be good.

If you see the amount of men defending what is the death of any society, an atrocity like women's suffrage, you'll see that this society is dead.

caamib, FSTDT comments 15 Comments [2/1/2018 1:47:35 AM]
Fundie Index: 10
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 136362

Random Boy:

What a great question in the name of the Lord! Relative to KJV Bible in Italian, it is too bad that there isn't one. The Christian need not worry about this though because most Italians are well capable of speaking the English language, and can therefore read the Christian Bible same as anyone else. Praise the Lord!

There are many Christian organizations that been working tirelessly to translate the Christian Bible into various foreign languages. Like our esteemed Christian brethren whom the T-man has been helping with revising the Arab Bible to remove any references to the pagan god "Allah" and replace it with the proper "Al-Ilah". That way no Christian, pagan, or Mooslim will ever confuse between the real God of the Bible, and the fictional "Allah" of the Moohmadan raghead!

Relative to having our KJV in foreign languages, the Christian must never be ignorant in his understanding of why our Bible is pure and inerrant literal Word of our Jesus the Christ. Here're some of the questions to ask relative to establishing whether a particular Bible "version" is really a version of the Christian Bible or a Cathlic perversion of thereof. To wit:

Does it use Christian scriptures, known as the Textus Receptus, or does it relie [sic] on the corrupted old Cathlic or modernist manuscripts as its source material?

Was it translated by Christian scholars or by sodomites and Cathlics?

Were the right precautions taken against corruption of our Scripture, as was done with the KJV, whereby armed guards were posted at the doors of each translator to ensure no Cathlic corruption was brought in?

Was it purified seven times, as our illustrious KJV? See research by the esteemed Dr. David W. Daniels relative to this utmost important point!

Therefore, if you can find a Bible in the Italian language that will meet ALL of these criteria, it may be considered the Italian equivalent of the KJV! Ditto for the Bibles in any other foreign language, that the Christian needs not use at all if he can speak English.

Praise the Lord!

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D., Disqus Grace and Truth 24 Comments [2/1/2018 1:47:22 AM]
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