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Quote# 136694

AfD censures firebrand Andre Poggenburg over anti-Turkish remarks
Anti-Turkish remarks by a far-right German politician have resulted a warning from his party, the Alternative for Germany (AfD). Andre Poggenburg also faces at least one potential hate speech prosecution.[/i]

Poggenburg's depiction of people of Turkish origin in Germany as "camel drivers" and "caraway seed traders" resulted Friday is a formal admonishment from the AfD's federal executive.

Its spokesman, Christian Luth, said the AfD warning was adopted unanimously by executive members.

Poggenburg, who chairs the AfD's Saxony-Anhalt state branch, delivered his latest tirade during an end-of-Carnival event in Nentmannsdorf, a township south of Dresden in the neighboring state of Saxony. Known as political Ash Wednesday, each of Germany's political parties gather for a day of drinking and banter.

Video footage showing some 1,200 AfD adherents cheering his speech, with another AfD firebrand Björn Höcke and far-right publicist Jürgen Elsässer also on the stage, prompted widespread disgust nationwide.

Prosecutors in Dresden, already looking into a complaint lodged by a private person, have indicated that a prosecution foreshadowed by the Turkish Community in Germany,TGD, has not yet arrived.

Poggenburg, who labeled his address as "political satire," was responding to objections by the Turkish Community to plans by Chancellor Angela Merkel's next intended coalition to add the expression "Heimat" to the federal interior ministry's designation.

'Undisguised hatred'

German Federal President Frank-Walter Steinmeier, visiting Saxony-Anhalt on Thursday, spoke of politicians who sought to turn hateful behavior into strategy.

Sachsen-Anhalt's Protestant bishop, Ilse Junkermann, on Friday said Poggenburg's speech exhibited once again how the AfD used "undisguised hatred" to defame people.

"Our society needs responsible persons with prudence and farsightedness and not parliamentarians blinded by hate and contempt of others," she said.

The deputy chairman of Saxony-Anhalt's center-left Social Democrats, Andreas Steppuhn, on Friday described Poggenburg's speech as "far-right extremist, racist and inhumanely contemptuous" that amounted to an "open attack on the foundations of democracy."

TGD Turkish community chairman, Gökay Sofuoglu, told the Essen-based Funke Media Group on Thursday that Poppeburg's demeanor reminded him of "a speech from Joseph Goebbels" – Adolf Hitler's propaganda minister.

Insufficient grounds

Germany's VfS federal domestic intelligence agency based in Cologne said Friday in the wake of Poggenburg's utterances it saw no sufficient evidence to placed the AfD under surveillance for far-right extremism.

German law on intelligence gathering sets procedures for surveillance of persons or parties deemed as risks to the nation's free democratic order, requiring the VfS to report to a special parliamentary committee.

Professor Hajo Funke, a researcher on extremism in Germany, told German ZDF public television that Poggenburg's speech amounted to "racist rabble-rousing against the largest minority in Germany, the Turks."

"What Poggenburg said reminds me - and I say this for the first time - of what the Gauleiter in Berlin in the 1920s, Joseph Goebbels, unleashed in the way of agitation," said Funke.

In last September's federal election, the AfD entered the Bundestag parliament, becoming a 92-member opposition group. It had already garnered opposition seats in 14 regional state assemblies across Germany.

Andre Poggenburg, Deutsche Welle 0 Comments [2/16/2018 12:27:28 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 136691

Not advisable for Chinese Muslims to use dog symbol for CNY, group says

IPOH, Feb 16 — It is not advisable for the Chinese Muslims to use the dog symbol as part of their Chinese New Year home decorations, a group has said.

Malaysian Chinese Muslim Association president Prof Taufiq Yap Yun Hin said the animal is considered “unclean”, and should be omitted from the cultural celebration.

“We do not encourage it as Islamic teaching prohibits such acts of having animal statues or pictures in the house especially when it comes to the animals which are considered ‘unclean’.

“Chinese New Year for us is merely a cultural celebration and not a religious festival,” he told Malay Mail.

However, Taufiq pointed out that there is no harm for the Chinese Muslims to visit houses with such animal decorations.

“There is nothing wrong for them to visit the houses or attend a dinner where there are dog symbol decorations,” he said, referring to Chinese Muslims.

“We may not practise it, but at the same time we should also tolerate and respect the belief and culture of other races as well.”

Taufiq also added that the majority of Chinese Muslims will not even have any animal pictures or symbols as part of their house decorations during the Chinese New Year.

In Chinese astrology, the 12-year zodiac cycle is represented by an animal each year.

The 12 traditional Chinese zodiac animals include a dog and a pig, two animals which Muslims consider “unclean”.

Already, some Malaysian businesses are skirting around or playing down the portrayal of canines in Chinese New Year decorations this year, wary of offending the country’s Muslim majority in the Year of the Dog.

Meanwhile, Chinese Muslim Datuk Nazrin Cheong Abdullah told Malay Mail that decorative items are just part of the celebration, but the importance in ushering the New Year is to have a good family bonding time.

“Whether to use the animal symbols decoration or not is not the matter. For us the important thing during the celebration is the family reunion,” he said.

Nazrin also said the way Chinese Muslim celebrates the Chinese New Year is similar to the Chinese community, except for the prayer part.

“The celebration will be the same, we will have the house cleaning, family gathering and ang pao giveaway, but we will not perform any ritual or prayers,” he said, referring to red packets filled with cash.

Nazrin said when it comes to decorative items, he would usually prefer the character decoration such as the fu dao le (elements of luck or fortune) compared to decorations which contain images or symbols.

Prof Taufiq Yap Yun Hin, The Malay Mail Online 10 Comments [2/16/2018 12:04:11 PM]
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Submitted By: Bedhead

Quote# 136688

« @ all my Christian followers out there…

Jesus Christ is on the brink of return yall. The Rapture is coming. Hold on tight to your faith and belief in Him, it’s your ticket out of here before things go horribly wrong (some of you may already know what I’m referring to). We’ve waited quite awhile for this moment, and I and many other believers believe He’s set to take us home very soon. So keep praying, keep watching the sky, be ready, for our redemption is nigh. Amen!????

friisans, Tumblr 9 Comments [2/16/2018 12:03:15 PM]
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Quote# 136687

I have just read a review of a book written by a liberal atheist about the state of play on American Universities. He highlighted the fact that these bastions of free speech have become bastions of politically correct speech, meaning that free speech no longer exists. One thing that he discovered to his surprise was that Christians were the most persecuted group on campus. Your comment that we were not persecuted is not what I would call the facts as you so quaintly put it. As for your links and citations, all you are doing is garnering information that supports your cause, like my rabid homosexual friend on the other site. Most of it is rubbish and is coming from discredited organisations that have compromised themselves. By way of example the American APA which is constantly quoted by the homosexual cause, is totally compromised for the following reasons. One. A retired president of the APA has publicly said that scientific rigour has been jettisoned in favour of the politically correct agenda. Two. In a comment about abortion they said that there is no evidence that any women suffers as a result of abortion. A comment that says "don't bother me with the truth."Three. They say that reparative therapy for homosexuals is wrong because it causes suicide and depression and doesn't work. They forgot that in their charter it says that members must give help to anyone who requests therapy to overcome their homosexual attraction. In addition, their statement means that thousands of people who were homosexual and no longer are have to stop being heterosexual and become homosexual again. In 30 years of research, I yet to find one homosexual that can prove that once homosexual, always homosexual. The best they can offer is that I know I was born homosexual. Of course that begs the question "how do you know." As you can imagine, unless you have ideological blinkers on, that we don't place much faith in so called experts who tend to say what certain people want them to say and that we have a bit of a laugh when you talk about correcting misinformation on this site.

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"There is nothing about homosexuality that causes HIV" - And here you fall flat on your face. The evidence suggests otherwise. You try so desperately to defend homosexuality with little to no evidence. NO evidence suggests homosexuality is natural or healthy. In my observations Shooter over a period of two years, I have noticed that the pink mafia are totally devoid of evidence for their claims. It seems that they come up with a statement (which is nothing more than spin) and present that to the media as the truth. It is usually backed with a lot of emotion and a pity party. As the media are supporters of their cause, they accept what they say without question so evidence is not demanded of them. I have read numerous articles in the media in support of the pink mafia that you can shoot holes in. Despite this, it is uncritically printed without question. Then along comes someone who knows what the truth is and they call their bluff and this brings out their aggression 101. "How dare you question what we say" is their response and this is followed by ad hominen attacks and pejorative language which shows how intolerant, bigoted and hateful they are.

Truth v Lies, MercatorNet 5 Comments [2/16/2018 12:02:59 PM]
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Quote# 136686

All over the internet, a former Roman Catholic priest and admitted homosexual, Henri Nouwen (1932-1996), is being promoted as a “MUST READ!” I plead with anyone reading my words that you NOT read Mr. Nouwen's ungodly writings...

Henri Nouwen is a complicated figure. He was a Roman Catholic priest whose influence extended far beyond Roman Catholicism. His ecumenical appeal made more angular Catholics nervous, and his Protestant readers gave “qualified” appreciation. While Nouwen wasn’t a liberal, his life and work is a product of a Vatican II age. It came out after his death that he was gay, though he remained celibate and trusted the church’s teaching. Despite his chaste life, his presence in the gay community and his work with AIDS advocacy in the 1980s often made more religious conservatives nervous.

SOURCE: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/reviews/love-henri


If that doesn't make you disgusted enough, it gets much worse. One of the most ungodly men in the religious world for the past 50 years has been Evangelist Billy Graham, who is the founder of ChristianityToday (CT) magazine! CT actually praises Henri Nouwen as a great spiritual man, in an article authored by Wesley Hill, titled, “Weakness Was His Strength.” Folks, homosexual feelings are sinful, just as adulterous feelings are sinful. CT needs to decry homosexuality as a vile sin, not just a “weakness.” The lame excuse that I often hear is that everyone already knows homosexuality is a sin, and instead of making people feel bad about their sins, we ought to emphasis God's love. This is Pastor Joel Osteen's wrong attitude. The truth is that such flawed and unbiblical reasoning is being used by Satan to gain sympathy, and thus tolerance and acceptable, of the sodomite community!!!

Henri Nouwen should be an abomination to Christians, not a hero. I keep reading that Mr. Nouwen was honoring his vow of celibacy as a Catholic priest, but vow or no vow is not the issue... HOMOSEXUALITY IS AN ABOMINABLE SIN TO GOD!!! (Leviticus 20:13).

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 13 Comments [2/16/2018 12:02:56 PM]
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Quote# 136685

gustyprinceofthemonsters: Full offense but I'm gonna take the word of people who fled North Koreas oppression over some white American teenager lol

This is the norm for people who wish to believe that movie star defectors, which are paid close to a million dollars, are unbiased or their stories haven’t crumbled due to contradictions or themselves admitting to having lied because of pressure and extra profit.

It is your choice to believe racist propaganda that paints North Koreans as brainwashed, unable to make their own decisions, and governed by an autocratic dynasty and repeat that same propaganda as many times you wish. This is not something new, amerikan and european imperialists have spent the last two hundred years depicting Asian nations as childish, requiring the ‘aid’ of their white settler father.

You question our credibility, we return the question to you: why should we care that you believe in racist imperialist propaganda when that is already commonplace for people who live in imperialist nations? We make an effort to provide means to people who wish to investigate, who want to learn more beyond western propaganda, and finally see what the DPRK is and what it isn’t.

You don’t want to learn, you want to live in ignorance – that’s the essence of the petit bourgeois mindset, of liberals.

It’s also probably why you have art sexualising young girls on your blog (which raises a few alarms) – petit bourgeois mindsets are built on chauvinism, and this easily joins with racism, misogyny, and a set of values focused on self-serving at cost of others’ well being.

juchechat, Tumblr 5 Comments [2/16/2018 12:02:47 PM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 136684

Anonymous: yeah, the us wants you to hate kim jong un, it doesn’t want you to sympathise with north koreans

egowave: yeah and obviously theres many reasons to hate kim jong un but us empire wants north korean citizens to be portrayed as like crazed inhuman people who worship everything he does rather than oppressed people living under a shitty government


“There many reasons to hate Kim Jong-un”, if you are living in a core imperialist country this sort of position is no different or more ideologically principled than U.S. state department propaganda. You follow with, “us empire wants north korean citizens to be portrayed as like crazed inhuman people who worship everything he does”, which is true and has been the modus operandi of U.S. imperialism towards countries that rebelled against capitalism and imperialism (and set up their own revolutionary governments, etcetera). What is strange is that after recognising how U.S. imperialism operate, you lapse into repeating the same U.S. sponsored anti-DPRK propaganda, “rather than oppressed people living under a shitty government”.

This is not a matter someone can flake between sides and expect this to be interpreted as a well structured ideological thought – it comes across as opportunism, and in the end indirectly endorses the dominant idea of the DPRK being an ‘evil entity’ rather than a victim of U.S. imperialism and its allies.

If you are on the left, you are expected to support the struggle of third world peoples, you are expected to oppose amerikan thought, and understand how our actions reflect theory, and how theory reflect our actions. This is not to say that certain criticisms can’t be made regarding the DPRK, but you have to ask yourself and analyse if this is the most opportune time, or platform to voice said criticisms, or if it’s more sound to show support to the DPRK, its people, its government and party, and reserve said criticisms for when the DPRK is not on the bullseye of U.S. imperialism.

juchechat, Tumblr 3 Comments [2/16/2018 12:02:40 PM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 136683

Convincing people to kill themselves

AryanBlood:Am I the only one here when they see someone depressed or suicidal feel the need to see if you can convince them to do it, I don't mean just on an internet post. It's something about the fact you know can use words to twist someones problems into something worse then it really is, I guess a power and control related issue. Killing is easy, but convincing someone to kill themselves is on a level of its own.

stuffweknowabout:I like pushing them to their limits and making them see what I can see: That they do not want to kill themselves at all, that it's just "a cry for help", that they are not even capable of doing that


PurpleUnicornPotato:
I like to do both. It's fun to make someone kill themselves, but it's also fun to see if you can stop some people. Sometimes it's harder to make someone not kill themselves than it is to make them do it. I like to take the greatest challenge.



Aryanblood,stuffweknowabout,PurpleUnicornPotato, Reddit 11 Comments [2/16/2018 12:02:32 PM]
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Quote# 136503

So. You reveal your true character. Kiss up and kick down. I happen to be a member of a privileged group, but I could not disagree with you more. It does not bother me a bit that a handful of white people can't go to Harvard because a handful of black people are admitted. And you have a very Asian view of what capitalism is. It's a view one small step away from the absolute corruption of supposedly capitalist places like China. We are capitalist. We are also a democracy.

I should have said Chinese. The better minds in America have always tried to soften the rough edges of capitalism to keep it from becoming just the law of the jungle. And we generally disapprove of nepotism and passing through generations of unearned privilege, as well as approve of trying to improve the lives and therefore the entire society by helping those who have faced generations of unearned discrimination.

Rob, The Crimson 10 Comments [2/15/2018 7:59:38 PM]
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Quote# 136499

The Hooded Man is the 'Divine Fool' acting through his intuitive will; he is 'The Fool' of the Tarot, numbered 0 - the Void. He appears as a hooded figure, inside whose hood there is a total darkness, not 'blackness' but a Void! His eye appears from the Void; he can be an Agent of Chaos, laughing at the (s)laughter of battle, of the breaking down of structures, of 'law-tables', of that which is decaying, degenerate and dying. Ho! Ho! Ho! He laughs as he mounts Sleipnir and rushes through the Nine Worlds at a furious pace, leading the Wild Army of the Dead. That which is falling only needs a push!

'The guilty shall tremble!' Controlling powers need authority, they need to make laws to stop any form of opposition to their agenda. Anarchists do not want authority, and they do not want laws. Nihilism and anarchy are necessary in that they break the power of the authority that oppresses. Left-Wing Anarchy, however, in the form of such organisations as ANTIFA, are based upon the upholding of the 'multi-cultural society' and the 'sword-arm' of the agenda of the Global bankers - Marxist Socialism and Communism. ANTIFA opposes the forces that seek not to 'integrate', not to become a mongrel 'Race of Tan' and to lose their identity, to lose their only hope for the evolution of Man. Thus ANTIFA is alright so long as it is contained and takes this path, for it does not oppose the agenda of Global Capitalism, it protects by violent force that agenda. But it is controlled - and it is contained. Should these forces be transformed into a real opposition, through the creation of a new Barbarian and the creation of new Tribes of Barbarians separated out from this society, raw and surging with energy and power, like the Germanic Tribes that swept down upon Rome, this new 'Roman Empire' will fall just as surely as the Roman Empire fell before yesteryear's Barb-Aryans.

There need be no barbarians from 'without' this time, since it is the world that is today enslaved, not just a part of the world; this time the barbarians will arise from within, separated out from the 'mob', from the 'herd', from the mass-consumers, raw and strong, healthy and virile, opposed to the weakness and sickness of this 'Modern World' - they will be the 'Men Above the Ruins' who 'Revolt Against the Modern World'. Each will be a form of The Hooded Man, each will hold within himself the 'Powers of Light and Darkness', each will wield the Sword of Victory holding within itself the 'balance of Light and Darkness'. And then, only then - 'The guilty shall tremble!'

There are 58 Words in this prophecy, and there are 58 Letters in 'The Power of Light and the Power of Darkness are strong within him'. 58 is the number of ROBIN. 'Robin' comes from 'Robert', a word meaning Fame-Bright which is 'Light': as 'Robin Hood' this become 'Fame-Bright Hood' which is a way of saying 'Light-Darkness'. In the name 'Robin Hood' we have the archetype of the Folk-Hero that holds within him the Balance of Light and Darkness - the whole Man. In Jungian terms the 'whole man' who has re-integrated the Shadow side of his nature - the Dark Side. This is the bit that Judaeo-Christianity, Socialism, Liberalism and Humanitarianism cut out! In this prophecy lies the way back to right, the way back to wholeness and the recreation of the Whole Man.

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End-Note: Those who have not, as yet, learned 'The Hooded Man Prophecy' off by heart would now do well to do so; it needs to be memorised (with the heart) and to be meditated upon, thus allowing its wisdom and teaching to become part of you, to be integrated into your whole being.

Wulf Ingessunu, Inglinga 11 Comments [2/15/2018 7:58:12 PM]
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Quote# 136680

Year of the Dog exposes growth of Islamic conservatism in Malaysia

With the Lunar New Year round the corner, Chinese around the world are preparing to welcome the Year of the Dog.

But in Malaysia, where people of ethnic Chinese descent make up almost a quarter of the population, images of the dog have been omitted from Lunar New Year decorations and merchandise for fear of offending the country's Muslim majority.

The omission has raised hackles in the Chinese community and caused concern among Malaysians of all faiths, who see it as yet another symptom of the country's growing Islamic conservatism, driven by the government's flirtation with hardline Islamist policies and a cultural shift by religious students returning from the Middle East.
Sunway Pyramid, a busy shopping mall just outside the country's capital of Kuala Lumpur, is one of several major commercial hubs that has opted not to depict dogs, which are considered unclean by many Muslims, in its Lunar New Year decorations.

Backlash
Sunway Pyramid decided not to display dogs because they wanted to be respectful to what they perceive as Muslim sensitivities, but it suffered for its decision.
A communications officer for the mall said her company has been the target of a backlash on social media for its decision not to display "contentious" cultural emblems, with calls for a boycott of its mall.
Ms Tan, a 40-year-old Malaysian-Chinese shopkeeper in the mall, who declined to give her full name, said: "This is a multiracial country, when they do something like that it shows disrespect to the Chinese race here."
"If this is the case they should just make this only an Islamic country, but we have Buddhists, Hindus and other... (religions) as well here," she added.
Several shops selling the customary red and gold new year decorations in Kuala Lumpur's Chinatown have kept those featuring dogs inside rather than on display out front.
Last month, Reuters reported that Pavillion Mall, a shopping mall in the heart of Kuala Lumpur which gets about 3 million monthly visitors, also chose not to depict dogs in its decorations, citing religious and cultural sensitivities as a factor in their decision.
Earlier this year, a hypermarket chain around the country was embroiled in controversy when it emerged that Lunar New Year t-shirts being sold there depicted 10 animals in the Chinese zodiac, but not the dog or the pig.
Multicultural Malaysia has seen an increasing intolerance towards things considered insulting to Islam, & Muslim leaders have previously been vocal against dogs.
The 2018 Lunar New Year isn't the only time that animals considered taboo in Islam have caused public furor. There were outcries when Malaysia in 2016 ordered eateries and fast food chains such as Auntie Anne's and A&W to change the name of dishes such as 'Pretzel Dog' and 'Coney Dog' to 'Pretzel Sausage' and 'Beef Coney' or 'Chicken Coney'.
The reason? The country's Islamic department said 'dog' would confuse Muslims.
Malaysia's 30-million population is estimated to be 60% Malay Muslim, with prominent Chinese, Indian and other minorities.
Though Islam is Malaysia's official religion and the country has Sharia courts for civil cases for Muslims, it is constitutionally secular.

Secularism disappearing
Maria Chin Abdullah, a prominent pro-democracy activist, says what's happening with the Lunar New Year decorations are "just small signs" of growing Islamic conservatism.
"The secularism in our system that we enjoyed seems to be disappearing."
As evidence, Chin pointed to the increasing frequency with which Malay women now wear the tudung, (headscarf), the Arabisation of Malay vocabulary -- for example the word "Eid" being used for the Islamic religious holiday instead of the Malay "Hari Raya Puasa", and books being banned for espousing moderate forms of Islam.
Other contentious recent issues include a beer festival in Kuala Lumpur that was canceled last year on security grounds, dress codes being imposed on international performers at pop concerts and Christians being prevented from erecting crosses on buildings.
As the Year of the Dog approaches, some shops run by ethnic Chinese in Malaysia are keeping canine models inside instead of displaying them prominently to avoid causing offence in the Muslim-majority country.
"Schools have become less multi-racial and things are becoming scary," said Chin.
"My own son will come back from school and tell me we can't touch dogs and ask why I'm not wearing a headscarf."
Other critics have pointed to the presence in Malaysia of hardline Indian Muslim televangelist Zakir Naik. He is banned in the UK and his views have sparked a criminal investigation in his native India.
Last year, Prime Minister Najib Razak's government confirmed it had given Naik permanent residency, a decision to which activists have mounted a legal challenge.
Indian protesters hold placards as they shout slogans during a protest denouncing Islamic scholar Zakir Naik in New Delhi on July 18, 2016.
Indian protesters hold placards as they shout slogans during a protest denouncing Islamic scholar Zakir Naik in New Delhi on July 18, 2016.
Najib's support for more Islamist policies has grown since his ruling coalition lost the popular vote in the 2013 general election - its worst ever electoral performance - as he seeks to strengthen his hold on the ethnic Malay Muslim vote.
Malaysia's evolution has raised alarm bells at the UN, which has urged the country to protect its tradition of tolerance from the rise of fundamentalism.
"I have heard worrying reports of attempts at Islamization spreading in many areas of society which could lead to cultural engineering," said UN human rights expert Karima Bennoune last year following a 10-day fact-finding mission to the country.

'Conservatism is becoming worse'
The government, which is widely expected to win elections due before August, drew criticism last year for allowing the opposition Pan Malaysian Islamic Party to put forward a parliamentary bill calling for harsher punishments -- including more flogging - for moral "crimes".
Malaysia's nine sultans, the official guardians of Islam in Malaysia, last year issued a call for religious harmony after what they described as excessive actions.
The move came after the Sultan of the state of Johor forced the owner of a launderette in his state to take down a "Muslim-only" shop sign.
Ahmad Farouk Musa, founder of a moderate think-tank, Islamic Renaissance Front, is yet another who says Islamic conservatism is worsening.
"One of the reasons is that Malaysia sends thousands of students to Saudi Arabia, where they are indoctrinated with hardline intolerant forms of Islam like Salafism and Wahhabism."
"They bring back intolerant ideas, for example, a hatred of Shias. That never existed in Malaysia before," he added.
But there's another fundamental problem that dates back to the birth of the country - its race-based political system.
Parties set up on ethnic lines originated under the country's former colonial rulers, the British, who imported Chinese and Indian labor to Malaysia, largely keeping Malays in impoverished rural areas.

After Malaysia won independence in 1957, its new leaders granted privileges to Malays, including cheaper land, easier access to tertiary education and preference for civil service jobs, to try to help them reach economic parity with the Chinese community.
This policy was strengthened in 1969 after Malay animosity over increasing Chinese economic and political power boiled over into a race riot in Kuala Lumpur in which scores of people, mostly Chinese, were killed.
Reformists argue the system has made Malays dependent on handouts and has bred demagoguery that thrives on religious and ethnic tension.
Over the years, Najib's United Malay National Organization (UNMO) has cast itself as the guardian of Malay privileges. As the next election approaches the prime minister has also sought to burnish his party's credentials as the defender of Islam, while at the same time raising the suggestion that an opposition win would result in diminishing the influence of the religion in the national arena.

Malaysian Muslim conservatives, CNN 7 Comments [2/15/2018 12:41:29 PM]
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Submitted By: Bedhead

Quote# 136679

Make no mistake the Zionists are up to their old dirty tricks, not so old, in fact, perpetrating yet another Florida-based gun control hoax. This is the so called Parkland High School shooting rampage, one that actually never occurred, as is obvious from a careful review of the evidence. It is all so treacherous to the extreme, how the DHS and its support systems leverage former real-life events, those few mass shootings which have occurred, acting out actual fake events and calling them real.

Sure, it happened, right: absolutely – right on Valentines Day (aka the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre). Additionally, people were so casual about it that the carried their balloons all about despite the horror that purportedly unfolded:

The Sheriff, Scott Israel, said so, thus, it must be real:

Israel said that Cruz had an AR-15 type weapon, and countless magazines in his possession.

Where are those countless magazines, and where are all the spent bullets – and where are all the deceased students? Yet, even so, what a wonderful coincidence it is that this suits, ideally, the arch-Zionist agenda of undermining guns rights: the Feinstein, et al., plot to take out semi-automatic weapons.

Moreover, as is the routine, the entire world has been fully bamboozled by what is nothing other than a fake and a hoax. There is no substantiation for this as a real event. Florida is a staging ground for hoaxes: a multitude of them, including the previous gay bar fake and also the Ft. Lauterdale Airport shooting fraud.

It was a drill. There is no other possibility. People are too casual. They are simply having too much fun. There could not have been any real bloodshed, here.

Image result for images; shooting; broward county; parkland school wounded; injured; florida

Is this the way real gunshot victims would be treated, with the legs allowed to be hung off the gurney. It’s also the standard one shoe on, one off, imagery.

One student said, for instance, “After the fire alarm got pulled and kids started evacuating, I heard five pops.” Does anyone really believe this could be a coincidence where a shooter just happened to be there during this drill to shoot down some 25 people? The student added, “I go, that’s not a drill, like, we never did a drill like that.” And again, “When we started evacuating, I knew it was more than a drill, because we’ve never done that.”

drkresearch, No Disinfo 15 Comments [2/15/2018 12:41:03 PM]
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Quote# 136677

Protestant Apostasy

Below is Time Magazine's March 2005 Issue, featuring the Great Whore, now being worshipped by some Protestants.



[Image: a painting of the Virgin Mary]

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 24 Comments [2/15/2018 12:37:13 PM]
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Quote# 136675

So I unknowingly walked into a gunfight with only a knife today. And to my further surprise, it was two against me. Is this really the quality of our media in Canada? Note that every time I begin to hit on some hard truth to correct their fabricated narrative, they dog pile me in an attempt to prevent it from coming out. Also notice how they didn't want to discuss why I was dropped from the wellness expo as the media is complicit with the pharma trolls that created the smoke and mirrors in the first place. Further to that, the agenda becomes quite glaring as they desperately try to bridge the passing of my son (that is fraught with medical system coverups and lies) with my involvement in Truehope.

Due to the media's involvement in preventing 1000's of individuals the opportunity to connect with us over the next 2 months, we are setting up studio and going live tomorrow at 7pm MST with the "Brain and Thyroid Health" presentation that the pharma trolls have worked so hard to prevent the public from seeing (note: this presentation will also cover the use of effective, scientifically proven natural remedies for mental illness that have been instrumental in allowing hundreds of thousands to live fulfilling, drug free lives). Praise be to God, that even though our detractors have had momentary success in suppressing this message of hope and empowerment, that we still have a venue wherein the "Rise Up" tour continues as we share the same blessing that saved my family over 20 years ago. I pray that the message will be equally as impactful through this medium as it has been for the tens of thousands that we have been blessed to connect with over the past few years. May God continue to allow the truth to come forward and may it truly set us free!

David Stephan, Facebook 16 Comments [2/15/2018 7:29:23 AM]
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Back in 2007 and 2008 this was the number one viewed antidepressant video on youtube exposing the truth about their dangers and inefficacy. My having compiled the various video clips and making it available on youtube over 10 years ago was one of the factors that placed a target on my back with the pharma trolls who were vehement over its release. (note: the content of this video is heavy.)

David Stephan, Facebook 7 Comments [2/15/2018 7:29:16 AM]
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Sobeys drops support of wellness expo after father convicted in son's death scheduled to speak
David Stephan — convicted in connection with the death of his 19-month-old son Ezekiel— is scheduled to speak at next month's Calgary Wellness Expo.

He’s on a speaking tour preaching the benefits of natural health, and he’s coming back to Calgary.

David Stephan — convicted two years ago in connection with the death of his 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, in southeastern Alberta — is scheduled to speak at next month’s Calgary Wellness Expo, set for the Big Four building at Stampede Park March 9 to 11.

Titled “Achieving Brain & Thyroid Health — Rising to your Potential,” Stephan’s seminar promises information on how to improve mental health and promote hormone balance through nutrient supplementation.

It’s the same talk Stephan is giving this weekend at the Wellness Expo in Saskatoon.

The seminars are sponsored by Truehope Nutritional Support Inc., a nutritional supplement company founded by Stephan’s father.

Sobeys announced Sunday morning it was withdrawing its sponsorship of the Health and Wellness Expos of Canada.

In an emailed statement, a spokeswoman said the company couldn’t support the organizers’ decision to host Stephan as a speaker.

Some people took to Twitter to call on Sobeys to pull its support of the expo, given Stephan’s involvement.

Sobeys spokeswoman Cynthia Thompson says the company won’t be associated with any future Health and Wellness Expo events.

Sunday afternoon, expo sponsor Flaman Fitness followed suit in yanking their support.

Two years ago, Stephan and wife Collet were convicted in a Lethbridge court for failing to provide the necessaries of life for Ezekiel. He died of bacterial meningitis on March 13, 2012, after being rushed to Alberta Children’s Hospital in Calgary when the tot stopped breathing.

For weeks, Ezekiel’s condition was treated by his parents with natural remedies including hot peppers, garlic, ginger root, onions and horseradish.

The parents suspected Ezekiel had croup or the flu, despite warnings from a nurse and friend of the family that the child showed signs of suffering from meningitis, according to testimony heard at trial.

Too stiff for his car seat, the child was driven by his mother to a Lethbridge naturopathic clinic to pick up an echinacea treatment.

David was sentenced to four months in jail, while Collet was handed three months house arrest.

In November, Alberta’s top court upheld the convictions in a 2-1 split decision, entitling the couple to have their case heard by the Supreme Court of Canada — a date set tentatively for this May.

Requests to Stephan and Wellness Expo organizers for comment went unanswered Saturday.

Stephan’s talk this March isn’t the first time he’s been hired to speak at health fairs.

Earlier this month, he also talked about brain and thyroid health at the Calgary Health Show at the BMO Centre on Feb. 3.

Dr. Juliet Guichon, a University of Calgary assistant professor in the faculty of medicine who specializes in law and medical ethics, called the decision by health expos to book Stephan to speak at seminars irresponsible.

“David Stephan has been criminally convicted by a jury of his peers — he lost his trial and he lost his appeal,” she said.

“His child died because the father and mother gave alternative health remedies rather than taking his child to the doctor.

“Why would anyone want to listen to what he has to say about health and wellness, given the outcome?”

She said organizers of such events, at the very least, should ensure attendees are aware of all aspects of Stephan’s past — including his previous conviction.

“People who attend these shows ought to know,” she said.

“It would be appropriate to the organizers to include that publicly available information about him when they invite him to speak.”

David Stephan, Calgary Wellness Expo, Calgary Herald 10 Comments [2/15/2018 7:29:14 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

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(Koanic)
> Jesus said “resist not evil”,

https://infogalactic.com/info/Turning_the_other_cheek#Nonviolent_resistance_interpretation

> We have to interpret the sermon on the mount as Jesus anticipating crucifixion

No, it dampens the culture of honor dueling by submitting the aggressor’s personal insults to the community for judgment, instead of personally enforcing one’s own justice, which renders murky who’s at fault.

(peppermint)
((Jesus)) was a gommie, and the destruction of personal honor in favor of ((community judgement)) is an early form of gommieism, like forbidding men from seeing whores instead of stuffing whores into convents.

(Koanic)

It does not destroy personal honor. King David had plenty of honor, but he did not revenge personal insults. Those were avenged by God and his son. He revenged insults against his ambassadors, for example, with genocide.

Idiots in bars fight on their own account, each being right in his own eyes. This is not honor.

Koanic and peppermint, Jim's Blog 9 Comments [2/15/2018 2:09:15 AM]
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she's already whitewashed and if she's whitewashed while being pure blooded korean with korean immigrant parents in a korean populated neighborhood. she's truly already beyond fucking lost and it's her father's fault. what korean father puts his daughter into snowboarding? her profile says shes fluent in korean, but try to find one interview where she speaks it. ( i won't hold it against her for not speaking korean, but don't put it out like you do)

Anthrofighter, Reddit 12 Comments [2/15/2018 2:09:06 AM]
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Quote# 136663

Sermon 23: Big Pharma

By The Rev. William H. Grimes

Psalm 118:8 says "It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man." Galatians 6:3 says "For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself."

Big Pharma is a problem in this country. God hath ordained NATURAL REMEDIES, but now we have all of these opioids, SSRIs, cross-sex hormones, $1,000 Epipens, and all of this other overpriced profiteering by the AMA and the APA as shills for the FDA, the DEA, and the rest of the government! Little Jimmy thinks he's a girl, so they break out the puberty suppressors and horse estrogen pills! Bob gets laid off his job and feels a bit down, so he gets hopped up on Zoloft! Kids are riling up in class, so give them Ritalin! Martha has a headache, so they prescribe OxyContin to make more money! THIS IS SHEER WICKEDNESS AND MADNESS! SAY AMEN IN THE HOUSE OF GOD! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

So, this is a problem when mere man thinks he's better than Almighty God! The Almighty Lord of Creation who created the world in six literal days and rested on the seventh. We are ruining lives and turning people away from Christ with these pharmaceuticals that are insanely expensive since Big Pharma has lobbied the government and they don't allow competition in the marketplace. God created a plant that actually helps with pain and anxiety with FAR FEWER SIDE EFFECTS! IT'S CALLED CANNABIS! YET THE GOVERNMENT HAS DECLARED IT A SCHEDULE 1 DRUG SINCE MAN THINKS HE IS BETTER THAN GOD AND THAT PHARMACEUTICALS CAN WORK BETTER THAN GOD CREATED AND GOD ORDAINED REMEDIES! JEFF SESSIONS, A STOOGE OF SINFUL ADULTERER WICKED DONNY, THINKS HE KNOWS MORE THAN THE GIVER OF LIFE AND THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE! WE NEED TO GET RID OF THIS SINFUL BIG GOVERNMENT IDEOLOGY! HALLELUJAH! NO DEA, NO FDA, NO NSA, NO DHS, NO SINFUL DEEP STATE! OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KIDS ARE BEING DULLED, MEN ARE DEVELOPING BREASTS AND WOMEN ARE DEVELOPING BODY AND FACIAL HAIR, ALCOHOL HAS RUINED TOO MANY LIVES, AND OPIOID USE IS RAMPANT AND SSRI SUICIDE PILLS ARE RUINING EVEN MORE LIVES! YEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW!

WE NEED TO GET BACK TO TRUSTING IN THE LORD! OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS IS AS RAGS, AND WE NEED TO TRUST IN GOD AND BE WASHED IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB! QUIT TRUSTING IN EARTHLY WISDOM MADE BY WEAK AND FEEBLE MAN AND OPEN YOUR EYES AND MIND TO THE TRUTH! BROTHER, ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS THE LIGHTHOUSE IN YOUR LIFE AND THE LORD AND SAVIOR IN YOUR WICKED SINFUL HEART! DO IT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE! GET SAVED, I BEG OF YOU!!!! God's people said AMEN!

The Rev. William H. Grimes, New Testament Baptist Church 20 Comments [2/15/2018 1:57:09 AM]
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Quote# 136662

Very sneaky of this tub of soy to use the category “middle eastern refugees” rather than the more precise and relevant “moslem”, which includes all moslems residing in America rather than just those officially designated as refugees recently escaping a war zone. The latter category — “moslem” — has a terrorist attack rate in America 5,000% higher than the rate for non-moslems.

[When you miss the point so hard you get a PhD in the new geometry you invented]

And the vapid conflation of terrorist attacks with falling down stairs is par for the shitlib course. Stairs don’t surprise us with pipe bombs in the subway. We all know where the stairs are and the risks inherent in climbing or descending them. But the goal of moslem terrorists goes beyond their kill count; their objective is to spread fear and panic that death could come at any time and in any place. And, unlike stairs, moslems kill in the name of a religion, and have deep and wide networks of fellow moslems helping them in their deranged cause. They have an agenda, which stairs do not.

Finally, one has to scoff at the asterisked fine print on this bugman’s posterboard. He went out of his way to assure viewers he has “citations” for his claims.

But who will fact check the fact checkers?

(anyone with descended testicles)

Anyhow, that PURE CUCKFACE is a lesson in physiognomy. A quick glance at his problem glasses and his smug doughy androgynous puffboy mug is all you need to know he’d be the type to WELL ACHSHUALLY about moslem terrorism and welcome an invasion of hued hordes….into somebody else’s neighborhood. It’s also the look of a pasty blob who just hit the button on his rectally-inserted orgasm egg.

CH, Chateau Heartiste 15 Comments [2/15/2018 1:56:03 AM]
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Evolutionary Theory vs Universal Common Descent

Evolutionary Theory is about the change in heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations.

Universal Common Descent is about the monophyly of life, i.e., how every organism we observe today shares a common ancestor: single celled organisms that developed from primordial goo.

While it is true that accepting Universal Common Descent requires accepting Evolutionary Theory, why do so many people think that accepting Evolutionary Theory requires accepting Universal Common Descent? Creationists can believe God created as He described in Genesis, while believing God built into His creation natural mechanisms for organisms to adapt.

NesterGoesBowling, r/creation 18 Comments [2/14/2018 5:03:03 AM]
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In early December, my family and I went to buy our Christmas tree, but instead of buying it in our typical SWPL neighborhood, we ventured outside of the city to make a day of it on a family farm in a working-class suburb. We had an idyllic vision of escaping the problems of city life. We imagined drinking hot chocolate and laughing with similar-looking families, our children playing with their similar-looking children.

There was some of that, but the scene was far from wholesome. A surprisingly significant number of children at the farm had frizzy blonde-tinged afros, the tell-tale sign of black-white miscegenation (I say “sign” because many of these frizzy-haired kids had only one parent with them—almost always a heavily tattooed and obese white mother with creative piercings and hair coloring). Almost all of the adults were white, but many of them mumbled in a barely comprehensible black-imbued vernacular and dressed in sloppy hip-hop attire. This was not the scene we had expected.

That night, we came back to the city and ate dinner at an upscale restaurant. Every single patron was white—mostly young hipsters. The decor was agrarian and the background music, to my surprise, was country (mostly Chris Stapleton). This was the idyllic traditional America that we had hoped to find earlier in the day.

Over dinner, my wife and I discussed what we had seen. Based on the voting patterns in both areas, we could safely bet that the vast majority of the people at the farm voted for Donald Trump. And we were almost certainly the only Trump voters at the upscale city restaurant.

The irony is that much of the diversity at the farm is a direct result of the last 50 years of housing and education policies—the very programs white liberals favor in their politics but flee in their personal lives. This feature of white liberalism has been noted before, perhaps most cleverly by Joe Sobran: “In their mating and migratory habits, liberals are indistinguishable from members of the Ku Klux Klan.”

But white elites do not just flee the consequences of their diversity politics; once freed from the burden of diversity, they create replicas of the aesthetic and culture that their liberalism is destroying. Indeed, at the upscale urban restaurant there were no signs of diversity degeneracy—no hip-hop attire; no frizzy-haired children; no black-imbued vernacular. In fact, it was just the opposite—lumberjack shirts, two-parent families, cohesive and pleasant interaction—a simulacrum of the traditional America these very elites are destroying through their politics.

Our liberal rulers pollute public white culture but then produce an artificial version of it in their private lives to satisfy their longing for community and identity. This would not be such a problem if their poorer white brethren could also maintain this public-private dichotomy. But because the working and middle classes lack the money and mobility to escape the diversity degeneracy that seeps deeper and deeper into white America, they are stuck with the cultural pollution that the elites create.

This recalls another Sobran gem: “The purpose of a college education is to give you the correct attitude towards minorities, and the means to live as far away from them as possible.” But the prescient Sobran did not go far enough. Our elites seek not only the means to live far away from diversity, but the power to impose diversity on others—all in the name of cultural enrichment.

This underscores two features of our predicament that I have been thinking about ever since our day at the farm: (1) how diversity has polluted white suburbia, and (2) how diversity is a new form of cultural warfare.

You can find this pattern throughout the United States. Pick a city and compare its wealthy to its middle-income suburbs. You will find that in many cases the wealthy suburbs are quite liberal but have very few blacks, and the nearby middle-income suburbs are much more conservative and have far more diversity.

This is a pattern that extends beyond geography. Compare the magazines at the check-out at an upper-class grocery store, such as Whole Foods, to those at a more middle-income establishment. You will find that the magazines at the upper-class store are tasteful, restrained, and culturally white—whereas the magazines at the middle-class store bombard the shopper with diversity propaganda. The check-out counter has become a diversity warzone.

Of course, part of this discrepancy is due to the market. Poorer whites do not have the money and mobility to opt out of diversity, and perhaps these less-educated whites have tastes that make them more susceptible to the vulgarity of black culture. But the market is only part of the explanation. A more significant force is that our legal, political, and entertainment institutions are imposing this culture on them.

And again, the free market is only part of this story. This transformation of middle-income communities did not happen until American law hit them with the one-two punch of mandating integration and eliminating the freedom of association.

Thus, it is not simply that diversity means conflict, but that all the rhetoric and sloganeering about our national diversity obsession has become a form of cultural and demographic warfare. Our elites destroy the middle-classes through political slogans promoting our “greatest strength,” and coercive programs that cite the nation’s “great moral victory” over “racism.” When you hear elites extol the virtues of diversity, you are being attacked.

So does our hope lie with the proles? The big difference between Orwell’s 1984 and 2018 is that Orwell’s elites did not bother to indoctrinate the masses, on the ground that the proles’ fidelity to Big Brother was considered irrelevant. By contrast, in our diversity dystopia the masses are at the core of the Left’s indoctrination project. Our “proles” are the ones forced to suffer a bad education in integrated schools. They are the ones subjected to violence, harassment, and intimidation. And they are the ones told, again and again, that any resistance to this makes them betrayers of who we are as Americans, deplorable traitors in need of ever-more reformation.

Leadership may not come from the proles, but good sense and votes will. Those who bear the burdens of diversity see its damage most clearly. It is no accident that Donald Trump swept the white working-class vote.

Whatever our own particular economic station, we all have a role to play in restoring working- and middle-class white America. We should be hiring our own people, tutoring our own people, supporting scholarships for our own people, and doing our best to build schools and cultural institutions that can be healthy environments for our own people.

Dr. Murray may have been right that white America’s “coming apart” defined the last part of the 20th century due to white flight from the cities. But “coming together” may define the first half of the 21st century—because now there is nowhere to run.

Winston Taney, American Renaissance 17 Comments [2/14/2018 12:25:12 AM]
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I’m sure a lot of people think I’m some backwoods Christian who thinks he can “pray away the gay,” due to my opinion being that was I was turned homosexual through conditioning and post-hypnotic suggestion, but that’s not true at all– I’m not by any means a Christian. [...]

lowfyr, Tumblr 15 Comments [2/14/2018 12:25:10 AM]
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By his own estimation, the European witch-burnings amounted to 166/year out of a population of 70 million in 1600, which is roughly similar to the number of annual bike deaths... in California (141/year, population 36.5 million). However absurd one might consider witch-burning to be, I'd be curious to know why it is any less necessary than bicycle riding. Indeed, one could easily make a Darwinian case that witch-burning is preferable to bike-riding, since the former harmlessly eliminates the old and weak while the latter removes the young and healthy from the population. So, perhaps it would help if everyone would think of witch-burning as a precursor to modern euthanasia.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 22 Comments [2/14/2018 12:25:06 AM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 136640

Allow this oldfag to give it to you straight, since thankfully this is one term that nobody needs a longpost to explain:

It's the belief that existing cultures are responsible for sustaining all of society's inequalities.
It differs from conventional Marxism in that conventional Marxism argues that economic classes are responsible for said inequalities.

This belief structure is one of the sacred cows of the regressive left, alongside postmodernist theory, and suffice to say there is a big fucking drive to keep the waters on the subject as muddy as humanly possible. Many regressive leftists like arguing it's nothing more than a conspiracy theory, and with good reason - just looking at that bolded text, any Kiwi can immediately recognize that damned near every bit of internet outrage that's happened over the last five fucking years, from the Ghostbusters 2016 controversy to the fucking Autism Holy War itself have, as the core reason they even fucking happened in the first place, that core fucking point in common with one another.

Jaimas, Kiwi Farms 8 Comments [2/14/2018 12:10:09 AM]
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