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Quote# 136639

People shouted ‘jump’ before suicidal man fell to his death
http://metro.co.uk/2015/03/16/people-shouted-jump-before-suicidal-man-fell-to-his-death-5106465/?ito=v-b
A suicidal man died when he fell from a building after people shouted ‘get on with it’ and ‘jump’ while police tried to coax him back from the edge.Some people even filmed the victim, aged in his 40s, as he fell to the floor on Saturday afternoon and one person was heard asking ‘how far can you bounce?’Police were called to the scene in Telford, West Midlands, and have since criticised those who shouted to the man.
Inspector Ben Smith said: ‘It is pretty appalling because it is someone who is clearly in need of support and assistance. That behaviour is something we would condemn.‘Clearly what that individual needed was time and space and a professional to help them out.
The individual would have been in need of care and support and appropriate intervention from medical professionals, so anything like that to encourage someone to jump should be unequivocally condemned.’
Kelly-Anne Taylor, 35, from Telford, said: ‘People were recording it with their phones and yelling at him to jump.
I can’t stop thinking about it. I was up town when it was happening and how much I wish I could have tried to help him.’

I do not see what the offense is here. The universe is indifferent to your being, and people have no obligation or duty to be sympathetic your being either.
It is very likely strangers to the "jumper" viewed the individual as annoyingly occupying time &/or space. At best believing the stunt to be overly dramatic and insultingly selfish, or at worst viewing the individual as mentally ill.

In either view there is no object reason a passerby need feel or discourage others from their self harming mania.
Morality is made up. It's not a real objective thing in the universe. There is no right or wrong- there are laws and social norms, both of which are transitory and relative.

Outrage is unnecessary save where it infringes on another person's safety or relative freedom.
When someone is in an unstable state shouting at them, let alone advising them to kill themselves could definitely be considered infringing on their safety.

Your safety is what I clearly am talking about above. It is not necessary to be outraged people are jumping off buildings as long as it is not effecting those walking by or the infrastructure one maneuvers within.
Which jumping off buildings does effect, naturally. However it is that which should outrage an individual- that it inconvenience your day and probably cost some money to clean up.

Outrage because one may think some passerby is an "asshole" is foolish. Outrage out of some "moral" stance is unnecessary.

I wonder if you'd say the same thing if it was one of your loved ones being encouraged by apathetic strangers to kill themselves.

I would
The state of the loved one is important to me, but I do not believe others have a duty or obligation to be sympathetic to my loved ones or my feelings toward a loved one.
Imagine a different scenario:
I come across a child with obviously diminished mental capacity holding a hand gun. I heckle the child telling it that it should put the gun in its mouth and pull the trigger. The child does.
Would you be outraged? Would the situation be so different?

At your heckling? No.
At the circumstances that lead to a person with diminished mental capacity having a firearm, probably so. Because it is not in the best interest of myself, and society in general, to have firearms so accessible.
You would be a jerk, sure. The heckling is not where I would say valid outrage should be directed, however.



Fencers, mmo-champion 13 Comments [2/14/2018 12:08:49 AM]
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Quote# 136638

Jesus Died for Pedophiles, Rapists and Murderers

Romans 5:6-8, “For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”

What a beautiful passage of Scripture! Few people would be willing to give their life, to die, for a righteous man. In some rare situations, a person might even be willing to give their life, to die, for a good man. But who in the world would be willing to sacrifice their life, to die, for a pervert, for a thug rapist or murderer? The answer is NO ONE! But wait, there is Someone who was willing to die for the vilest of society. There is Someone who was willing to die for the forgotten convicts rotting in prisons around the world. There is Someone who was willing to die for the lowest of the low of society. That noble Person's name is Jesus!

Carefully notice our text passage of Scripture, lest you feel self-righteousness and fail to realize that YOU are as guilty as that pedophile, rapist and murderer for whom Christ died. Romans 5:8, “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” Notice that the Bible doesn't say that Christ died for the worst of the worst of sinners; but rather, CHRIST DIED FOR US! That means, you and I are as guilty as the vilest criminal in God's eyes. James 2:10, “For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.” The Law of God is like a mirror, that is, even if you gently tap it, it will shatter into hundreds of pieces! If you sin even one time, you are imperfect and cannot inherit eternal life. Consequently, you need a Savior!

My dear friend, the ONLY difference between you and the vilest pedophile, concerning Heaven, is the precious redeeming blood of Jesus Christ. In God's eyes, your lust, your hate, or the lies that you once told, are just as offensive and damning as are pedophiles to any normal person. Society hates anyone who would prey upon a helpless child. And rightfully so! But God hates your hurtful gossip just as much! God hates your HBO filth just as much! God hates your seductive tight miniskirt just as much! God equally hates your unwillingness to apologize for your past sins! God hates your stinginess and unwillingness to support Gospel missions! God hates your tolerance of the Alexandrian-based, modern, corrupt, Bible versions just as much! God hates Bob Jones University's support of the Alexandrian Bible perversions, that molests men's souls, just as much as He hates the sins of a child molester!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 25 Comments [2/14/2018 12:08:38 AM]
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Quote# 136634

(He's referring to serial killers)

Good post. I've myself long noticed that sexual abnormals are vastly overrepresented in this group and that most of them are either homosexual or bisexual.

It just further goes to show the link between homosexuality and mental illness.

Hell, homosexuality IS a mental illness. It was only declassified as one because of the bullying and power of the fag lobby, NOT because doctors genuinely believed they were normal or healthy.

Henry Bowers, Stormfront 13 Comments [2/14/2018 12:07:14 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136631

(He's talking about Islam, and as usual for the idiots at BNI gets it completely wrong)

MY feelings EXACTLY! It is a matter of self-preservation, in my opinion. This dark, sinister principality kills human beings with more depravity and sadism than any horror movie director could imagine! It is a terrifying, direct threat to Humanity and erodes the spirits of the remaining pure, decent and righteous people on Earth. Its complete disregard for ALL LIFE must be stopped lest more and more innocent blood be shed. It lusts for the blood of innocents.

Notice now how the MSM is flooding us with commercials about the “poor, persecuted” Rohinga from Burma/Myanmar. What they forget to tell us is that their plight is a direct result of the rapes, be headings, and burning they committed against the majority Buddhist population. Buddhists are among the most non-violent people on this Earth. It takes an awful lot to make Buddhists resort to violence!!!

Jesus said that the meek shall inherit the Earth, but it sure appears that the opposite is true, unless He plans on coming down here to save us from the Evil that I believe and can only conclude is the true face of Islam.

Victor, Bare Naked Islam 10 Comments [2/13/2018 11:47:47 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136630

At the rate the illegal mudslime invaders are traversing the Adriatic and landing in Italy it won’t be long before the blood of Christians will be spayed up the inside walls of the Colosseum.

The imagination does not need to run wild to picture in the near future, Christians being sacrificed en masse in front of a baying islamic crowd who are chowing down on halal shacks between beheadings.

By the way I think those two churches in Mosul and Aleppo had already been “lit up”…

BigFek, Bare Naked Islam 6 Comments [2/13/2018 11:46:58 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136627

Yep. It gives us hope that other places will awaken as well . . . and put it back in the closet where it belongs.

They can make a good case for homo marriage when they start behaving like heterosexuals where 80% of women and 70% of men are faithful to their marriage partners.

And even among the minority who aren't, most count their affairs in the single digits, not the triple digits.

Most of us saw nothing wrong with giving them Civil Unions so they would have rights of inheritance, hospital visitation, etc. But, no, they had to f*** up the entire definition of marriage!

Vigilanteman, Free Republic 14 Comments [2/13/2018 11:42:34 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136495

There are two fundamental Shinto doctrines: 1) Japan is the country of the gods; 2) Its people are the descendants of gods. Of course, this is unbiblical. The Shinto concept of a divine descent of the Japanese people, as well as the alleged divine origins of their land, has given rise to a conviction of superiority over the rest of the world. With the exception of a few sects of Shintoism, the religion has neither a founder, sacred writings, nor any authoritative core of beliefs. There are numerous shrines throughout the country of Japan, where people worship a host of pagan deities. This is sinful idolatry, condemned in the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:4-5). Many Japanese people have altars in their home, in honor of one or more pagan deities. Just as Wiccan witches, the Japanese people who follow Shinto are worshipping a horde of false gods. This is demonism (1st Corinthians 10:20--"But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils." Please listen to me if you are a follower of Shintoism... you have been LIED TO! I completely understand that you love your nation, and that you love your parents; BUT your love for God MUST come first, or else you'll go to Hell for all eternity in your sinful unbelief. We are plainly warned in Revelation 20:15, "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." Jesus warned in John 3:3, "Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." Have you been born again? The Bible is not a Jewish Book, it is God's Word, given to ALL mankind.

"The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts." -Psalm 10:4



Until the end of World War II, Japanese children were taught at school that the emperors were descendants of the sun-goddess, Ama-laterasu. Amaterasu had allegedly given the imperial house the divine right to rule. In 1946, in a radio broadcast to the Japanese people, Emperor Hirohito repudiated his divine right to rule. Could you imagine if American children were taught that U.S. Presidents were descendants of gods? Instead, American children are taught that they are their own gods (humanism). The world is filled with idolatry. Oh that men would turn to the Lord Jesus Christ for forgiveness of their sins, for the salvation of their soul... "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" (John 3:16). It should seem very peculiar to honest Japanese people that Shinto excludes the rest of the world. So how does the rest of the world find eternal bliss apart from Shinto, a Japanese religion? In sharp contrast, the Word of God teaches that Jesus Christ invites ALL mankind to be saved... "For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" (Romans 10:12-13). Christianity is not a Jewish religion. In fact, MOST Jews today reject Jesus Christ as their Savior, just as they did 2000 years ago. God gave us the Bible through Israel, but that in no way gives the Jews special privilege (Acts 10:34).

David J. Stewart, Jesus Is Savior 13 Comments [2/13/2018 1:43:51 PM]
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Quote# 136625

Tony received word of this listing of his comments through the agency of the Holy Spirit, speaking through another Christian brother at church last week. Please remove Tony's comments from your satanic website. This is not the way Tony wants his comments to be used. Tony's comments are there to glorify God not there to let other satanists have laughs at Tony's expense.

Tony has not lost the ability to refer to him in first person. Tony chooses not to. Tony refers to him in third person because Tony is a creature created by God read Genesis 1 and 2. Tony does not deserve any of the credit or glory for what he says or does it is all God's work. God gets all of the glory. "I" is the most deadly word in the human language!! It is through focusing on I me my that Satan/Lucifer fell and was cast into the pits of hell where he is burning to this day for glorifying himself. Tony does not want to glorify Tony; Tony wants to glorify God. Tony refers to him in the third person to show that Tony is just a created being a messanger of God and not someone to respect. Respect God and fear God that is in Proverbs. Tony is a man of God and that is why he refuses to focus on himself as an individual.

Tony, FSTDT comments 22 Comments [2/13/2018 1:30:09 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 136623






Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 9 Comments [2/13/2018 1:29:52 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 136612

Maybe there is another take on what Jesus said, maybe He was talking about the "poor" in Spirit.
There a lot of Christians who don't put their whole trust in God, He is the One who will provide all our needs.

God doesn't have a problem with us having lots of money, in fact He even says, ask and you will receive. Why would anybody want to take a vow of poverty, when God has enough riches stored up for us all.

Tasseio, Charisma 21 Comments [2/12/2018 1:43:45 PM]
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Quote# 136611

DUTERTE ORDERS HIS TROOPS TO SHOOT WOMEN IN THE VAGINA

Rodrigo Duterte last week directed his soldiers to specifically target women rebel fighters by shooting them in the vagina, according to local reports.

Addressing a group of former communist rebels, the Philippines president said his armed forces should not kill female rebels but shoot them in their genitals because without them they are useless.

“Tell the soldiers. There’s a new order coming from the mayor. We won’t kill you. We will just shoot your vagina,” Duterte reportedly said. “If there is no vagina, it would be useless."

An official government translation of the speech, given on Feb. 7, replaced the word vagina with a dash. The transcript says the audience laughed in response.

Since taking power in June 2016 Duterte has presided over a bloody war on drug dealers and users, killing thousands of people, many in vigilante-style executions with the president’s approval.

The International Criminal Court said last week it was opening preliminary examinations into the war on drugs. However, given the ICC’s preliminary examinations into alleged war crimes in Afghanistan took more than a decade, there is little likelihood Duterte will face any immediate charges.

Duterte’s brief reign has been marked by a consistent stream of menacingly misogynistic comments.

In the past he has “joked” about raping an Australian missionary, made rape jokes about about Miss Universe, and told his soldiers they had permission to rape up to three women during conflict without being punished.

Last month in India Duterte said he would like to attract more tourists to the Philippines by offering “42 virgins.”

Duterte’s spokesman, Harry Roque, recently defended his boss’s misogyny, saying feminists were over-reacting and that the remarks were meant as humor. “I mean, that's funny. Come on. Just laugh,” Roque said.

Unsurprisingly, the president’s recent comments have been widely criticized.

“Duterte's latest nasty remark openly encourages violence against women, contributes to the impunity on such, and further presented himself as the epitome of misogyny and fascism terribly rolled in one,” Emmi de Jesus, a member of Congress representing the Gabriela Women’s Party, said in a statement.

Human Rights Watch researcher Carlos Conde called the comments “the latest in a series of misogynist, derogatory and demeaning statements he has made about women.”

“It encourages state forces to commit sexual violence during armed conflict, which is a violation of international humanitarian law,” he added.

Rodrigo Duterte, Vice News 26 Comments [2/12/2018 1:43:34 PM]
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Quote# 136610

Amos Moses:
The philosophical contradictions of the trans worldview - Lifesite
An argument about transgender identities will be much more persuasive if it concerns who someone is, not merely how someone identifies. And so the rhetoric of the transgender moment drips with ontological assertions: people are the gender they prefer to be. That’s the claim.
Transgender activists don’t admit that this is a metaphysical claim. They don’t want to have the debate on the level of philosophy, so they dress it up as a scientific and medical claim. And they’ve co-opted many professional associations for their cause. Thus the American Psychological Association, in a pamphlet titled “Answers to Your Questions about Transgender People, Gender Identity, and Gender Expression,” tells us, “Transgender is an umbrella term for persons whose gender identity, gender expression, or behavior does not conform to that typically associated with the sex to which they were assigned at birth.” Notice the politicized language: a person’s sex is “assigned at birth.” Back in 2005, even the Human Rights Campaign referred instead to “birth sex” and “physical sex.”
The phrase “sex assigned at birth” is now favored because it makes room for “gender identity” as the real basis of a person’s sex. In an expert declaration to a federal district court in North Carolina concerning H.B. 2, Dr. Deanna Adkins stated, “From a medical perspective, the appropriate determinant of sex is gender identity.” Dr. Adkins is a professor at Duke University School of Medicine and the director of the Duke Center for Child and Adolescent Gender Care (which opened in 2015). Adkins argues that gender identity is not only the preferred basis for determining sex, but “the only medically supported determinant of sex.” Every other method is bad science, she claims: “It is counter to medical science to use chromosomes, hormones, internal reproductive organs, external genitalia, or secondary sex characteristics to override gender identity for purposes of classifying someone as male or female.”
This is a remarkable claim, not least because the argument recently was that gender is only a social construct, while sex is a biological reality. Now, activists claim that gender identity is destiny, while biological sex is the social construct.

Enniscorthy:
From the "Media Bias/Fact Check" website: "Life Site News"
EXTREME RIGHT BIAS
These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Notes: LifeSiteNews “is a non-profit Internet service dedicated to issues of culture, life, and family.” The website was founded by the Campaign Life Coalition which has a far right bias. Both sources are anti-abortion and opposed to gay marriage. (11/25/2016)

Amos Moses:
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ............ oh .... i am sorry ... did you have something to say of any interest ..... FYI ...... unbiased ...... IS A MYTH ....... a .... oh how did you put it ..... a ...... CONSPIRACY THEORY ................. and you are still a liar and a JOKE .......... and an ACCIDENTAL THEORIST ............oh ... i forgot ..... SO WHAT ..............
Southern Poverty Law Center Adds Itself To List Of Hate Groups
February 7, 2018

Enniscorthy:
All your name calling aside, it's prudent to check your sources before posting to make sure they're reputable and not far-right jokes.

Amos Moses:
all of your opinions are dubious .............. and repeated lies ........ so dubious coming from you is ..... well ...... ahhhhh ..... DUBIOUS .........

Enniscorthy:
No, I cite reputable sources. You just happen to oppose those sources.

Amos Moses:
nope .... you cited a source that endorsed PEDOPHILIA [edit: The American Psychological Association] ........... and then took it back ..... and that is NOT REPUTABLE ....... "You just happen to oppose those sources." .... as you do SCRIPTURE ..... again ...... SO WHAT ................

Enniscorthy:
It didn't endorse pedophilia. It said that pedophilia might be an orientation. Once again, you fail to understand.

Amos Moses:
YUP ... it surely did ............ and you fail to acknowledge the truth ...........

Enniscorthy:
No, it didn't, but you're welcome to find the text that gave them free license to abuse children, either before or AFTER their retraction. I'll wait. Let's see how honest you really are.

Amos Moses:
yeah .... that is why we have homo-marriage .... because they said it was okey-dokey to play pokey wherever you want to ...... and they were about to do the same thing ........... and you are wrong .... and you are hurting people ............. and what you are saying is a lie ..... and so you are still a liar ..............

Amos Moses, Christian News Network 13 Comments [2/12/2018 1:41:22 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 136609

I know homosexuality is not normal, that is why it isn't a mental illness, they have been deceived by a demon (spirit) of homosexuality.
All mental illnesses have a demon behind them.
If you don't think demons exist you're in for a rude shock.

Tasseio, Religon News Service 16 Comments [2/12/2018 1:41:18 PM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 136607

That Aryan Spirit is still here, hidden nonetheless in the DNA-Code of certain people, people who have retained in some part the ancient Blood-Memory. The physical race does not exist today, except in race cases, and even then physical appearance does not necessarily match with the 'spiritual race' within the individual. As Miguel Serrano never tired of pointing out, today's struggle is for Spiritual Blood and Spiritual Race and not just Biological Blood and Biological Race. True it has to be said, in order to resurrect the Arya, the Aryan Race, a biological vessel will be needed to take the Spiritual Race, since the body must support the Higher Race. But today we do not have this, and as Nietzsche pointed out - we are the solitaries who will one day form a people, and from this people shall arise the 'Superman'. We are at a stage of this process which is fulfilled through the resurrection of the Solar Race. Some form of physical mutation would seem necessary for this to come about.

Opposed to the Aryan Spirit is an Anti-Spirit which created the major religions of the world - Judaism, Christianity and Islam. This Anti-Spirit also created Liberalism, Marxist Socialism, Marxist Communism (and all forms of Global Socialism and Global Communism), Liberal Democracy, Humanitarianism, Anarchism. It created Capitalism and the greed for profit and gain; it created the Economic Consumer Society in which people become 'consumers' a 'commodity' in themselves; its technology chained the world to the 'World Wide Web' where it can control the minds of the masses. It promoted 'Equality' and the levelling down of people to the lowest; it promoted the 'Slave-Mentality' of the modern world; it produced the 'Ultimate Man' - the slave! The antithesis of the Noble Arya is the Ignoble Anti-Spirit. Whereas the Aryan Race was the 'Master Race' which ruled the world with its superior knowledge, wisdom and understanding, its Aryan Sciences, and its Aryan Weltanshauung, today the Anti-Spirit rules and even the survival of the Earth is threatened.

All ancient myths and legends speak of this 'Higher Race', and all agree that at sometime in the very ancient past this noble race became corrupted by a Dark Power that distorted the leadership and distorted the higher purpose of this Solar Race. This goes way, way back into the distant past, but the time which this really comes into effect seems to centre around the time of the sinking of Atlantis. The key to this lies in the High Race mixing its Igneous Blood with lower races of man who dwelt upon the Earth. This seems to have caused the sinking of Hyperborea originally, and later the sinking of Atlantis when the shift from the Polar-Centre to the North-Western Centre occurred.

Wulf Ingessunu, Inglinga 11 Comments [2/12/2018 1:35:52 PM]
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Quote# 136591

The philosophy of not caring

As men, by our nature we have the compelling need to care. About our children, our jobs, our siblings, our parents, our wives/girlfriends, our friends. Men have an innate desire for loyalty.

Back in the day a man could care with no ill will or detriment towards him. But since we live in a gynocentric society, our cares aren't worth a flying fuck. Nothing you want matters to anyone, society views men as disposable. I refuse to be seen as disposable. I have no problem putting others first if it is reciprocal. However, I'm not a piece of trash. I refuse to be tossed out.

It's been a hard journey, but I've been learning to detach myself from the world and not give a fuck about anything: sexism, lgbt, politics I don't care. Simple as that. What's honestly better in life than to go home, drink a beer or your choice liquor, kick up your feet and listen to music or watch hbo or enjoy the nature outside.

The key to fulfillment is to not care about anyone but yourself and your brothers.

Toxicthrowaway413, r/MGTOW 15 Comments [2/12/2018 3:24:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 136587

Now to the reasons you paged me. I like to jerk off to CP from time to time. Underage girls placed in a sexual context become sexually attractive to me. Not posing naked (that does nothing), but the actual sexual stuff. I just love how pure and strong their emotions are, this is the main attraction to me.

The second thing I love about CP is the idea of corrupting children. It fuels my fantasy, and makes my faps better.

Third thing is that I feel like I missed a lot in life not being more sexually active when I was a child. CP helps me re-visit the fantasy world of my own childhood. Better faps.

User8423, Reddit 25 Comments [2/11/2018 11:23:38 PM]
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Quote# 136586

Hell no. I still can't believe people are not making this shit up just for attention. "I was raped 10 years ago by my boyfriend, I'm so traumatized".

Fuck, really? You had sex when you didn't wanted sex, with your favorite fuck buddy no less, and now you are traumatized for life? Did he ripped you vagina or something? Prostitutes have sex with unattractive men every day, and somehow they are fine, but you, stupid attention whore, are traumatized for life? Go kill yourself.

User8423, Reddit 11 Comments [2/11/2018 11:23:19 PM]
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Quote# 136469

Remember when the Left used to advocate for the working man and against Big Business? Yeah, I don’t either. It’s been so long all I know of the Left is that they’re globalist bug-shills for MegaTech, international finance, and race replacement. In the Left’s collective consciousness, allying with predatory billionaire monopolists is worth it to stick the knife deeper in Whitey’s back.

But given that leftoids LOVE LOVE LOVE our modren day capitalist oligarchs because the omnipotent fat cats can be counted on to stream anti-White poz 24/7 into the eyeballs of Heritage America and to fund open borders advocacy NGOs, it’s full speed ahead with the violations of workers’ rights and basic humanity. “WTF I love robber barons now!”

The Left isn’t unprincipled; its core principle is power, by any hypocritical contradiction necessary. We won’t crush the Left by reminding them that they once, a long time ago, championed the oppressed worker. They’ll just shrug that off with a snarky riposte fed to them by John Oliver and carry on virtue shrieking until their enemies are silenced and their livelihoods destroyed. The Left will only be crushed by crushing them….ousting them from power.

The Left hasn’t forgotten that open borders means in practice population churn, social disintegration, consumerist escape, rapacious multibillionaires importing scabs to displace American workers and gut their wages, and rapacious multimillionaire politicians importing ringers to displace American voters and gut their electoral power.

The Left hasn’t forgotten that open borders amounts to greedy fat cat CEOs running an arbitrage scheme on American native workers in which the former have all the leverage provided by millions of third world peasants willing to work for pennies in bezosian slave labor camps while the latter have to bend over and accept rock bottom wages, shitty workplace conditions, and low morale.

They haven’t forgotten any of it.

They have chosen to ignore it.

In service to their overarching desire to snuff out White Heritage America and morally preen on its smoldering ruin.

Still, BI also learned that with [Bezos’] OTS system, Whole Foods might be on track to saving $300 million in costs by 2020.


Cheer up, SWPL shitlibs, with those cost savings you can afford a Whole Foods artisanal cheese block as you scurry out the store trying not to look any of the employees in the eye.

CH, Chateau Heartiste 12 Comments [2/11/2018 8:02:21 PM]
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Quote# 136453

The word "aborigine" comes quite simply from two Latin words, "ab origine," meaning "from the origin." But origin of what? The origin of human settlement in the Americas? Says who? There is considerable (though confusing and uncertain) evidence that there were people in the Americas, probably from Southeast Asia, or perhaps from several parts of southern Asia, long before the people who now consider themselves "the first." These earlier people were not Mongoloid, unlike our present "aborigines."1

Why should we assume that the Americas were totally uninhabited for hundreds of thousands of years before the present Iroquois etc. were here? Homo sapiens is a very old species, compared to what we know of the past of the people who now claim to be "aborigines." Our present so-called aborigines probably arrived only about 12,000 years ago.

The word "indigenous" is no better, since it means "born in." Well, that would apply to a great many people now in Canada. And "native" means plain "born." Anyone born in Canada is both an indigenous Canadian and a native Canadian.

Another thing to consider is how much land is being re-classified as "native" land. There seems to be more and more as the years go by. One cannot assume that a walk in the countryside is some sort of "inalienable right" anymore. This loss of land is mainly a problem for people not living in urban areas — most White people who live in rural areas assume they can hunt and fish without great restrictions, and for many people such activities are a major source of food. As more and more areas become Indian land, I suspect White people won’t feel so comfortable being there.

In other words, all the usual distinctions between "aboriginals" and "non-aboriginals" are artificial and meaningless. The only meaningful distinction I can think of is that our "aboriginals" were living literally in the Stone Age before the time of Columbus. They do not seem enthusiastic about returning to a technologically less advanced culture, no matter how many evils they may claim to see in the present world. But they are enthusiastic about receiving billions of dollars annually from government sources. And how is it that, in the name of "employment equity," people are so often hired on the basis of some tiny percentage of so-called aboriginal ancestry?

As with so much of present-day government-enforced hiring practices, "employment equity" means little more than "White male removal." The solution is to remove everything that constitutes "aboriginal status." These people should be given full citizenship in the true sense: all the rights — and all the responsibilities. That in turn would give them pride, and it is the lack of pride that now results in such terrible rates of crime, of alcoholism, and of many other social ills.


Peter Goodchild, Eurocanadian 12 Comments [2/11/2018 6:27:03 PM]
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Quote# 136578

Lady Checkmate's headline: "PERSECUTION: College Republicans' Patriot Prayer rally disrupted by Alt-left counter-protesters"

(Cut-and-pasted Fox News article follows, link here: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/11/college-republicans-patriot-prayer-rally-disrupted-by-counter-protesters.html)

abbygirl08:
Lady Checkmate, someone is impersonating you I believe, and if you are not aware, you need to be. My name is abbygirl08, and I've posted on your channel several times. Here is the link to their profile: https://disqus.com/by/GracefulLadyCheckmale/ This is not you, is it? This person is impersonating other channel owners as well - causing much mischief. Please report him/her to Disqus.

Lady Checkmate:
Hi AbbyGirl! Thanks for letting me know. No, that is not me. That's a troll who uses many sock accounts to stalk, harass and persecute Christians. Check this out for more information, when you get a chance (if you'd like): https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-newsnetwork/psa_pending_comments_community_stalker_peewee/
I'm sorry you're having to deal with that, but I support you and will report, ban and block that impersonation account asap (if I haven't already ;).



Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 9 Comments [2/11/2018 12:14:37 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 136575

Ideas are more powerful than guns, but fashion is more powerful than ideas.

If Trump has a military parade with snappy parade uniforms, we may well win. Trouble is that our elite has been busy making soldiers dress androgynously, because they hate and fear the military. We are always ruled by warriors or priests. If soldiers continue to dress like Elon Musk’s rocket scientists, soldiers, like nerds, will remain low status, and priestly rule will continue.

They probably will not make the marines wear high heeled shoes, but they will make them wear baggy clothes that are interchangeable with the similarly baggy clothes worn by female “soldiers”.

If they parade wearing camo versions of what Elon Musk’s rocket scientists wear, military will remain low status, and thus warriors will be unable to challenge priests.

People in large masses toting guns and moving in unison is impressive, and big rockets are impressive, but to translate that impressiveness into power, need to dress the part. Clothes make the man. Consider Musk’s show with the heavy rocket.

Musk is a showman and Trump is showman, but Musk’s show sucked because everyone was dressed in Silicon Valley Casual that was actually casual. Needed to dress them in Silicon Valley Casual that was actually Silicon Valley Cool.

You look at a bunch of very smart rocket scientists acting and looking like World of Warcraft players who have just cleared a dungeon, and you think “low status”

I want warriors in power, and I want people who make cool toys for warriors in power, and they will need to dress the part.

If the soldiers in Trump’s parade come out wearing camo versions of what Elon Musk’s rocket scientists wear, military will remain low status, and thus warriors will be unable to challenge priests.

Let us imagine how Musk’s heavy rocket launch would have gone if he draped a bikini model over the sportscar that he launched to Mars, if his rocket scientists were better dressed, and if he himself posed with the bikini model and the sportscar wearing nice clothes with a touch of mad scientist. Similarly, however cool a military parade is, (and a military parade, like a rocket launch, is very cool indeed) you are not going to visualize those parading in power unless they dress the part.

Obviously the parade will raise Trump’s approval rating significantly. The problem is, however, at some point he is going to have to demonstrate that an airforce commando outranks a supreme court justice, so we need to raise the approval rating of air force commandos.

My assessment of the fall of Kings that began in the nineteenth century is that kings did not fail because of gunpowder, did not fail because industry rather than land became the source of wealth. Kings failed because George the fourth was fat, lazy, had a fat mistress, a bad tailor, and slept with other men’s wives, but most of all, Kings failed because Beau Brummel made the Puritan aesthetic cool. If King George the Fourth had had better fashion sense and hotter mistresses than Beau Brummel, and if his mistresses had, like Beau Brummel’s mistresses, only been sleeping with him, instead of sleeping with him and their husbands, we would have been fine. Also, if he had gotten off his fat ass and did some kinging, we would have been fine. He failed in the job of being the fount of all honors, mortal and divine (which is to say the job of regulating status competition into prosocial positive sum displays, rather than antisocial negative sum displays). The successors of the puritans took that job, ran with it, and have never let go of it.

So far, however, our attempts to produce reactionary fashion have all been miserable failures, and perhaps we will always fail until we have victorious soldiers exercising power, for all the cool reactionary fashions of the past are based on the uniforms worn by soldiers in victory parades.

But I am now coming around to the view that fashion should feature physically fit men wearing tight clothes that have been personally tailored to them. Standard stretch pants that fit without requiring a belt, and on the top a shirt, perhaps a T shirt, that has been tailored to fit, and tailored to end just below the point on your pants where a belt would be if they needed a belt, which your pants should not. The shirt goes outside the pants, but is almost, but not quite, tight around the pants.

Well fitting clothes are automatically high status. It is the last sumptuary display. An off the rack business suit is not high status. A custom fitted T shirt is high status. Baggy pants are low status. Men wear baggy pants because gangsters who claimed high status on the basis of violence were countersignaling by wearing baggy pants, but baggy pants do not work unless you can also plausibly signal real capability and will to commit violence. Such plausible signals are apt to get you killed, so make sure your pants fit. If you countersignal by poorly fitting pants, have to signal by violence, which can get costly.

Secondly, the costume should contain some element of peacocking, ideally a unique and idiosyncratic element. I now wear a fighting cock feather in my hat, the tail feather of a fighting cock that died in battle. Unfortunately, such feathers do not last a whole lot longer than the cock that donated them. It is tricky to get the right feather attached in the right place. Each fighting cock feather is unique and different (fighting cocks themselves peacock, with longer, floppier, and more diverse feathers than regular cocks). Most fighting cock feathers will do something bad like flopping in your eyes. Need a feather that flops around, but stays out of your eyes and your field of view, while flopping around in the other guys’s field of view.

Big hats are good, and better with something decorating them.



Gold chains also good, though male gold chains need to be big. Fine gold chains are girly. Not sure if multiple peacocking elements are a good idea. The Regency Aesthetic failed through excess, which excess justified the Puritan Aesthetic. A gold chain needs to be accompanied by bros or a bodyguard. If no wingman, then no gold chain. if a weak geek neck, cannot support a fighting cock feather.

You cannot peacock unless the alpha male of the group is also peacocking, or unless it is plausible that you are, by at least some metric, the alpha male of the group. Your boss is not going to be peacocking, and if your subordinate is peacocking while you are not peacocking, you will need to do something about it.

Any item of peacocking that draws attention to your head needs a suitably large neck to support its metaphorical weight, as if it had actual physical weight. I have therefore added neck exercises to my exercise regimen. I attach a looped belt to a resistance cord, and pull with my head in different directions, in order for my neck to be strong enough to support the mighty weight of the fighting cock feather in my hat. If you have a geek neck, don’t try to wear a big hat.

Obviously you cannot wear something to job interview or similar occasion that is more dramatic or unusual than your interviewer will be wearing. No peacocking allowed at work or in job interviews, but you can wear better fitting clothes than your interviewer. If Silicon Valley Casual is socially required, you can wear Silicon Valley Casual that just happens to fit you perfectly, as Steve Jobs invariably did. Also, matching colors combined with dramatic clash of colors, so that the clash is clearly intentional, rather than the result of whatever passed the sniff test that morning. If you are going to have a dramatic clash of colors, superhero style, make sure that one major part of your costume matches another part.

Well, this is the latest in a long string of attempts to conjure reactionary meanswear into existence, and all previous attempts have failed embarassingly. Let us see how this one goes. We still need a victory parade with cool manly military parade dress uniforms to really make reactionary fashion stick.

But, lacking a victory parade, physical fitness is something. Reactionary males tend to be markedly stronger and slimmer than progressive males, due to fasting, diet, and lifting iron. Reactionary fashion will succeed, if associated with reactionaty phenotypes.

In the age of feral woman and family breakdown, when fatherhood is illegal, when everyone is a bastard, menswear that is associated with being able to beat people up is likely to succeed. The difference between today and past ages was that in successful civilizations, top fashions were associated with being a member of a group that was able to beat up other groups in organized collective disciplined physical violence, hence the connection to victory parades, while in an age of social collapse and family breakdown, in a civilization in decline, in a time when a dark age looms, when fatherhood has been criminalized, successful fashion tends to be more associated with the capability to perform individual thuggery, hence the perverse and ugly baggy pants fashion. When fatherhood is illegal, only criminals can be fathers. The underlying problem with menswear fashion is that the state is violently, coercively, brutally, and forcefully imposing black mating patterns and white gay mating patterns on white heterosexual males, which mating pattern in turn causes unattractive clothing to be fashionable, and attractive clothing to be unfashionable, the baggy pants fashion being an example of this problem.

If reactionaries are having troubles restoring reactionary fashion, it is because we are having troubles restoring reactionary families, and reactionary families require reactionary male social groups that collectively enforce reactionary socialization on potentially feral women. But, on the principle of fake it till you make it, reactionary fashion can cause the social conditions that will in turn cause reactionary fashion.

Dress like a patriarch, dress like an aristocrat, and have your women dress as if under patriarchal authority. Good fit is patriarchal, and peacocking and physical fitness is aristocratic. You cannot peacock at work if your boss is not peacocking, but you can be physically fit and wear well fitted clothes.

Jim, Jim's Blog 29 Comments [2/11/2018 11:06:25 AM]
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Quote# 136572


Gay activists contend there are only seven scriptures that address homosexuality in the Bible and therefore homosexual behavior is insignificant in scripture. Gay activists also contend that theologians have misinterpreted the seven scriptures. The seven main scriptures are the Genesis account of Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19), the Mosaic Law in Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13, the letter by Jude verse 7, and the Apostle Paul’s letters in Romans 1:26-7, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, and 1 Timothy 1:9-10.
Gay activists like to point out that none of these scripture references are in the first four books of the New Testament that record the direct teachings of Jesus. The gay argument is that since Jesus never mentioned homosexual behavior, it should not be considered immoral. That argument lacks any merit when one realizes that Jesus never mentioned bestiality either (humans having sexual relations with animals – another aberrant sexual orientation). Using the same gay logic would imply that a human having sex with an animal is not immoral behavior. Bestiality is listed as a sin in the Mosaic Law right after male homosexuality in Leviticus 18:23. Male homosexual behavior and bestiality are the only immoral sexual behaviors listed in Leviticus 18 that include the adjectives of “detestable” and “perversion.” The gay insignificant argument also fails the test on the bestiality comparison because there are even less scriptures that address humans having sex with animals.
Leviticus 18:22 explicitly states, “Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman: that is detestable.” (NIV) Gay theology argues that the type of homosexual behavior condemned in Leviticus does not include homosexuals in loving and consensual relationships. This gay argument is also without merit when one studies the content of Leviticus 18. Most of Leviticus 18 condemns various close relative and incestuous heterosexual relationships. The author of Leviticus condemns fourteen heterosexual relationships between close relatives and no homosexual incestuous relationships. The obvious reason Leviticus 18 does not list homosexual close relative relationships is because verse 22 condemns all homosexual behavior.
Other arguments put forth by gay theology are that the word for homosexual has been misinterpreted in the passages of the Apostle Paul’s letters; God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah not because homosexual behavior was prevalent in those communities, but because its citizens were inhospitable and sought to rape the male visitors; and the close friendships between Jonathon and David in the Old Testament as well as Jesus and the Apostle John in the New Testament were actually homosexual relationships. The key to all these arguments is still found in Leviticus 18. If Leviticus 18 condemns all homosexual behavior, which I believe it clearly does, these other gay arguments have no foundation for their devious assertions.
Once homosexual behavior is established biblically as sexual immorality along with adultery, close family heterosexual relationships, and bestiality, a host of other biblical scriptures apply to homosexual behavior. The Apostles gave four firm requirements to the non-Jewish Christians in the early church, “to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality.” (Acts 15:20 NIV) The Apostle Paul wrote, “Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.” (1 Corinthians 6:18 NIV) In his letter to the Ephesians Paul wrote, “But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people.” (Ephesians 5:3 NIV) There are many other New Testament verses with similar instructions to avoid sexual immorality.

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I was discussing these issues on homosexuality with an independent filmmaker in Houston, when she said, “I don’t care if people engage in homosexual behavior in their private quarters.” I was taken back a bit, because I knew I did care and didn’t care at the same time. I was also unclear what she implied by her statement. I had to think that statement through, and out of that thought process came a good example of how Christians need to be prepared to intelligently address issues of homosexuality.
My confusion and a lot of the confusion on issues of homosexuality stem from the fact that in America’s structured society there are different spheres of authority where behavior is subject to scrutiny. I find three distinct spheres where society views homosexual behavior from different perspectives – a medical sphere, a civil law sphere, and a theological or moral sphere. As one who has studied all three of these spheres, I tend to view homosexual issues differently depending on which sphere of authority they pertain to.
To illustrate this concept I am going to give my viewpoints on the filmmakers comment from these three structural spheres. From a medical viewpoint I do not care if two or three or four people engage in consensual homosexual behavior in private quarters, although I have apprehension that they may harm themselves or others. Some of the people engaging in that behavior may have unhealed emotional wounds from their same-sex parent and the behavior might be an attempt to repair that wound. Some may be carrying a sexually transmitted disease. I am not their medical doctor, their psychologist, their psychiatrist, or their close relative, so medically it is none of my business, but as a Christian I should have enough compassion to not want to see these individuals get AIDS or continue in behavior that will deepen their emotional wounds.
From a civil law viewpoint consensual homosexual sex in private quarters is not an infraction of civil law, so from that viewpoint I have no reason to care if people engage in that type of behavior. Sodomy used to be illegal. When it was illegal one could have been concerned that this consensual behavior was breaking the law, and even now some believe that sodomy, like prostitution, should be against the law. On another level as a Christian I care greatly if the civil law tells school children that consensual homosexual relationships are as desirable as heterosexual relationships and equivalent to marriage between one man and one woman, because those types of laws intentionally oppose my Christian moral beliefs.
From a theological viewpoint Christians should be concerned for people who engage in consensual homosexual behavior, because according to biblical scripture it will keep them out of heaven. The Apostle Paul reiterates that warning in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. In direct contrast to the warning is the desire of God to not want “anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.” (2 Peter 3:9) Followers of God should not want anyone to perish either. For those who are not familiar with this Christian terminology and message, one inherits eternal life (heaven) with Jesus upon repentance of their sins, turning away from sinful behavior, and choosing to follow Jesus. When one refuses to repent of sinful behavior and disregard God’s promise through Jesus, they are destined to perish (hell). Jesus talked about heaven and hell many times referring to hell as a place “where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” To the Christian either heaven or hell represent each individuals eternal destiny.
The simple statement by the filmmaker had many interpretations and implications. For example, a moral liberal would state that they do not care if people engage in consensual homosexual sex in private quarters because they believe consensual homosexual sex is moral behavior. A libertarian could make the same statement and not care if the behavior was moral or immoral, because their main principle is personal freedom. A conservative could make the same statement also and in a mean spirited way imply that they don’t care if that person gets AIDS from their sexual behavior, because they are responsible for their own actions. A Christian could also make the same statement in a callous way and imply that they don’t care if people who engage in consensual homosexual behavior go to hell or get AIDS, because they deserve “the due penalty for their perversion.” (Romans 1:27)
As a Christian I do not identify with any of the four interpretations presented of the filmmakers statement. From my Christian viewpoint, although I agree American society gives people the civil right to engage in consensual homosexual sex in private places, I do care that people engage in this behavior, because ultimately I do not want them to go to hell or to harm themselves or to harm others.


Thomas Coy, Ex Gay Truth 7 Comments [2/11/2018 11:04:52 AM]
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Quote# 136568

The last Stage of swallowing the blackpill is realizing this is the way it should be.

In nature, guess who gets females? the strongest male, birds? the most colorful one and the one who sings the best, peacocks? the most aesthetically pleasing ones with the brightest tails, its like that with most species, do you really think humans changed?

You are either born an alpha slayer or a loser, we got the bottom end of the stick, we were not meant to reproduce. It's natural selection, this is the hardest thing to accept, especially if you are young because you see all your buddies slaying while girls ignore you, it simply wasn't meant to happen, either cheat and looksmax your way through it or lay down and ROT buddy boyo.

iiiTeMpeR, incels.me 14 Comments [2/11/2018 10:52:03 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136566

Milo and the “Stockholm Syndrome” of Sodom
Posted on February 22, 2017 by Pastor Scott
In the mid-1970s, America was introduced to “Stockholm Syndrome” when 19 year old Berkeley student and heiress Patty Hearst was transformed from kidnap victim to domestic terrorist by identifying with her captors. Stockholm Syndrome is trauma-induced mental enslavement to the person or group causing the trauma, and Hearst has ever since been its poster child. Her identity hijacked, she joined her Simbionese Liberation Army kidnappers and eventually went to jail for crimes she committed voluntarily in that false persona.

In the unfolding spectacle of the Milo Yiannopoulos pederasty scandal, America is being introduced to a far more potent and common form of this phenomenon: Sodom Syndrome. Like millions of boys through the centuries, 14-year old Milo was recruited into homosexuality by an adult homosexual predator. He then justified his molester, “Father Michael,” in his own mind and recently in unwise but candid media comments. Very typically of adult homosexual men who experienced similar recruitment, Milo portrayed Father Michael as a sort-of coming-of-age mentor, and his young teen self as a consensual partner, fully competent to make his own decisions. (Historically, most male leaders of the “gay” movement share this profile).

In response to the scandal, Milo has recast himself as a helpless victim. While this seems cynical, he actually IS a victim to a far greater extent than most people, and even he himself, realize. I believe what Milo experienced at 14 was Sodom Syndrome, and like Patty Hearst to the SLA, his identity was subsumed into the LGBT culture by psycho/sexual trauma, reinforced by associating sexual climax with his predator’s orientation. Its all about brain chemistry and subconscious coping mechanisms, not free choice – at least not at first.

Like Milo I had a bad relationship with my father, and ventured into the world at an early age. An alcoholic from age 12 and a pothead/drug addict from 14 I lived a vagabond/hitchhiker lifestyle that lasted over ten years and spanned the continent. As such I was a ripe target for recruitment by predators and was solicited by “gay” recruiters countless times. To be fair, only rarely did these men attempt force and fortunately none was successful. To be clear, I never experienced same-sex attraction and didn’t succumb to “gay” recruitment, though I don’t believe anyone is immune to Sodom Syndrome.

When I was about 14 or 15, I spent an afternoon smoking pot with a “gay” guy in his 20’s who explained that young people during puberty have a very fluid sexual identity and how easy it had been for him to turn young teen boys into sex partners. I was very non-judgmental in those days, and didn’t think twice about it, nor similar conversations I had with other homosexuals (though few were that forthright). A confirming study I later saw said 25% of young teens suffer same-sex confusion but most grow out of it naturally by the end of adolescence.

After I had surrendered my life to Christ, been delivered from my addictions and started a family of my own, I saw the world in a wholly different light. A nineteen-year old man, who had “come out” as “gay” after being molested seven or eight years earlier, himself molested a four-year-old boy. I was close to both families and watched that child change from sweet and loveable to hyperactive and rage-driven. He never became homosexual himself to my knowledge, but never really recovered either and now in his 40s lives a miserable life of addiction and crime.

Later as my compassion grew for homosexuals, we took in a repentant ex-“gay” who was dying of AIDS. Sonny lived with us for the last year of his life and I was with him when he died. He attributed his homosexuality to being raped at age seven in a YMCA men’s room by a friend of his father. Sonny’s form of Sodom Syndrome compelled him to seek “gay” sex in settings with the strong smell of urine. He never chose to be that way and expressed deep shame in it, but even in his last days in Christ, the pattern burned into his brain by the youthful trauma remained the identity of his flesh while his mind and spirit were freed only through sexual abstinence.

In the earliest days of my ministry I had the pleasure of making friends with Anthony Falzerano, a leader of the ex-“gay” movement. He said the most common denominator in boys who get recruited is a kind-of “father-hunger” due to troubled family relationships, and that this is easily recognized by predators on the prowl because they suffered it themselves. He and other ex-“gay” leaders showed me by example that the cure to homosexual dysfunction is restoration of male normalcy through long-term healthy relationships with fatherly mentors.

My ex-“gay” friend Richard of Portland, OR sought me out in this way after the predator who made him his houseboy at age 12 (his piano teacher) kicked him out and replaced him when he got too old. My fatherly help blessed Richard through some rough times and gave me personal experience in mentoring ex-“gays.” He never went back and is doing well today.

I’m frequently accused by pro-LGBT leftists of being a suppressed homosexual myself because my life’s work has been opposing their agenda. That’s not true of me, but I’m not insulted by the suggestion because I don’t despise homosexuals like they assume. I do this work because I am a Christian saved by grace, trained for and assigned to this work by my Savior. I do it because I recognize that the sin of Sodom is the most destructive force in human civilization, singularly unique in it’s condemnation in the Bible. I do it because I don’t want to see any more young people lose their innate heterosexual identity to the Sodom Syndrome. Make no mistake – the problem is growing like runaway cancer because we’ve allowed it to go mainstream.

Past criticisms notwithstanding, my heart grieves for Milo Yiannopoulos, because I see what I might myself have become under different circumstances and it is hard to watch anyone crash and burn so spectacularly. What Milo really needs is his Father in Heaven, of course, but he also needs a Dad to lead him out of the darkness of perversion back into the light of normalcy. I pray that this crisis will open his life and heart to both. I’m personally willing to help him in that, if he doesn’t have anyone else. I also pray that Milo’s suffering will not be in vain, but truly open America’s eyes to Sodom Syndrome and it’s own sin in pretending – as a way to avoid confronting hard truths and harsh push-back — they’re all just “born that way” and can’t be cured.

Scott Lively, Scott Lively Ministries  8 Comments [2/11/2018 10:51:08 AM]
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Quote# 136558

Malaysian actor ‘shocked’ by marriage proposals for his 12-year-old daughter

KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 9 — When actor Norman Hakim shared a photograph of his 12-year-old daughter Marissa Dania on social media, the last thing he expected was an inbox full of marriage proposals.

Astonished, the Gerak Khas and Dia Bidadariku actor took to social media to address overly-eager netizens who were keen to wed his pre-teen daughter.

“I hear this little girl @marissadania_ is going viral. Viral for what reason? What is certain is a father’s DM (direct message) that’s full of solid risikan,” he wrote on Instagram.

In the Malay wedding tradition, merisik (asking ceremony) is the pre-wedding custom of asking a woman’s family for her hand in marriage.

“I’d like to tell you that my daughter turns 13 in July. Still a long way to go.”

In the post, which has been viewed over 430,000 times, Norman advised netizens to prioritise their responsibility to God and their parents before exploring marriage.

“In the words of mama @abby_abadi112, prioritise what is important,” he said, quoting Marissa’s mother and his ex-wife Abby Abadi.

Norman was married to Abby from 2002 to 2008 and they share three children together.

He is now married to actress Memey Suhaiza with whom he shares two children.

The father of five also requested that netizens leave positive comments and pray only for good things on Marissa’s Instagram which has 204,000 followers.

Several hours after Norman’s long post, Marissa shared a picture of herself in Istanbul with the caption, “Don’t take in what others say.”

This brings to light the controversial issue of child marriage in the country.

Child marriages are largely frowned upon in Malaysian society but do occur here as the country’s Islamic judicial system — which runs alongside the civil courts — has laws that allow a Muslim girl below the age of 16 to marry, though only with the consent of the Shariah Court. Permission is granted on a case-by-case basis.

This provision under Shariah law however is at odds with Section 376 of the Penal Code, which criminalises sex with a minor as statutory rape.

Under civil law, sexual intercourse with a girl under the age of 16 is a crime, whether or not she consents to it.

Civil laws, particularly the Law Reform (Marriage and Divorce) Act — which applies to non-Muslims — allows for marriage between couples aged 18 and above, but exemptions are also made for girls aged 16 and above, whereupon the consent of the state’s chief minister or mentri besar, must be obtained first.


Read more at http://www.themalaymailonline.com/showbiz/article/actor-norman-hakim-says-shocked-after-receiving-marriage-proposals-for-his#hKDkgKiDGcZ4KkgE.99

Various Muslims, The Malay Mail Online 13 Comments [2/11/2018 12:16:47 AM]
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